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Re: Fluctuating Recording Volume

Abbie Taylor
 

Gene, the only filter I find in the settings on Sound Recorder Pro on my BrailleNote Touch Plus is Bandpass Voice Filter. The switch is currently off. Do you think turning it on would solve the problem?

I'm pretty sure it's not the device because I've recorded on Sero, and it doesn't do that there. Besides, for the recording I sent, I used a headset with an in-line microphone.
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Re: help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Gene
 

What do you see when you look at the message? 
 
When I read the message as a text message, I see long links.  I pasted one to the clipboard, removed the less than sign at the beginning and greater than sign at the end and then followed the link.  I was taken to a PDF file, which I saved.  It read correctly when I opened it in my PDF reader but the newsletter may be nothing or almost nothing but links to PDF files.  But if you tell us what you see, it would make it easier to know if there are other ways to look at the information.
 
When I looked at the message as an HTML file, I saw a number of links that said image removed by sender.  These links evidently are links you can follow as you would a standard link in an e-mail message.  You can see where they lead.  Whatever is in the images that are part of the links, images of text, pictures, etc. will not be readable by the screen-reader and you will have to decide if it is worth using the JAWS OCR function to see if you can get access to any possible images of written material
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Could anyone help me to open this newsletter using jaws twenty nineteen?

Thanks,

Jeff  

 

From: The Towers at Tower Lane <rebecca@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:30 PM
To: jeffreyschwartz0238@...
Subject: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

 

 

THE TOWERS AT TOWER LANE | 18 Tower Lane, New Haven, CT 06519

 


Re: Clearing a laptop

Gene
 

This forum discussion appears to indicate the following:
It appears you can set Windows to not keep any personal information when you do something that creates a Windows Old Folder.
 
It isn't clear from the discussion whether the personal information is removed when you remove what you can from the Windows Old folder but I think this topic needs more discussion.  I'm not a tech, but I'm not sure this needs to be a concern if you use the right settings  and perhaps all this personal information is removed when you remove what you can if it is there.
 
I suspect the other question aside from that is, do you want to run a program that overwrites everything on the hard drive that is left after all files have been deleted that are personal? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below mine. 
 
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder?  If you are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows. 
 
Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.  That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided.  Then if you want to get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
> criminal tendencies?  I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
> or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
> hard drive such as your personal files.  If it does what deleting files
> usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
> wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
> recover them.  There are programs that actually overwrite the information
> and make it unrecoverable.  I'll let others discuss such programs further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
> Behalf Of M.E.N.
> Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
> To: techtalk@groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop
>
> I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
> running Win 10 1809.
>
> Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
> clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
> is it?
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

Could anyone help me to open this newsletter using jaws twenty nineteen?

Thanks,

Jeff  

 

From: The Towers at Tower Lane <rebecca@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:30 PM
To: jeffreyschwartz0238@...
Subject: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

 

 

THE TOWERS AT TOWER LANE | 18 Tower Lane, New Haven, CT 06519

 


Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Austin, I provided all this information for free. I would not mind working with you. When you choose to reach out to me.I’m on the central coast. Meaning central time zone. However, it doesn't matter when you give me a dial. I can answer the majority of your questions probably easier if we can you get a time to speak. However, for somebody that is brand-is just gotten the iPad, your brother didn't know know when my book. I don't recommend running the beta. Because if you didn't put AppleCare on there, that will void the warranty. Meaning that if you needed to take it in for any kind of repair, it would not be able to be dealt with.


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On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:32 AM, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com> wrote:

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so
that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.



Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Oh yes, it is Practice, not About.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn
voice over.

To answer your first question, yes, you can set up something
that will allow you to turn voiceover on or off without
sighted assistance. Go to settings, general, accessibility
and find accessibility shortcut at the bottom of the screen.
This shortcut lets you triple press the home button to turn
an accessibility feature, such as voiceover or zoom, on or
off. A good way to practice voiceover gestures is to go
into the voiceover section of accessibility menu and locate
voiceover practice, a feature you can use to practice
gestures.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:02:18 +0530
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice
over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad
mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to
practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with
that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover
jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more
about voiceover.


Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Troy Burnham
 

Thanks Mike, I forgot to mention I'm running windows 10 here.

Troy


On 9/5/2019 1:13 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Troy,
 
To add to what Tom has said, and if you're running Windows 8 or 10:
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row, and press, Control, Shift + D, to open the Settings Center default
all applications.
2. Down arrow to, User, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow to, Lower audio volume of programs when Jaws speaks, and press the spacebar to uncheck this box.
4. Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] audio ducking in jaws 2019

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>




Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Troy,
 
To add to what Tom has said, and if you're running Windows 8 or 10:
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row, and press, Control, Shift + D, to open the Settings Center default
all applications.
2. Down arrow to, User, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow to, Lower audio volume of programs when Jaws speaks, and press the spacebar to uncheck this box.
4. Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] audio ducking in jaws 2019

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>



Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Holly
 

Troy:

Audio ducking is only available in Windows 10, not in Windows 7.


Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Thom Spittle
 

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.

On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.

Troy




audio ducking in jaws 2019

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.

Troy


Re: purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

heather albright
 

Hello, here is a great group to join, they have all the tetorials on anything with voice over and all things apple. They have free classes too! Her is the subscription :

For a list covering all Apple devices from a blindness perspective

only-apple-tns+subscribe@groups.io

cheers Heather

 

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e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

 

If you can get Siri to turn on VoiceOver, you can go into it, and the first option after Heading is About. Double-tap on about, and do an Olusegun thing; explore. Try single tapping with one, then two, then three, then four fingers, then double and so on. It will tell you what that means. Whenever you want out, just hit Home button or press the Side button, as I don't know how new it is, probably press the button at the right side near the top. Then, double tap it to get to App Switcher; swipe up with three fingers to close Settings where Siri took you to, plus you also went to General, then Accessibilities and finally to VoiceOver.

 

Then check applevis.com to try to find a list of VoiceOver commands, and if you don't find them, there will be a phone number for Apple Accessibility, where you can call, and they'll email them to you. Actually, if you want them, write me off list:

 

4carolynarnold@...

 

And I will send them along with other stuff about how to use an iPhone, some of which would apply to the tablet.

 

Best regards,

 

Carolyn

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto

Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 AM

To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

 

hi all.

so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.

he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.

i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.

so i am going to ask a lot of questions.

1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?

2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?

3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?

4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Jujube
 

To answer your first question, yes, you can set up something that will allow you to turn voiceover on or off without sighted assistance. Go to settings, general, accessibility and find accessibility shortcut at the bottom of the screen. This shortcut lets you triple press the home button to turn an accessibility feature, such as voiceover or zoom, on or off. A good way to practice voiceover gestures is to go into the voiceover section of accessibility menu and locate voiceover practice, a feature you can use to practice gestures.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:02:18 +0530
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so
that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.


Re: purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

Carolyn Arnold
 

If you can get Siri to turn on VoiceOver, you can go into it, and the first option after Heading is About. Double-tap on about, and do an Olusegun thing; explore. Try single tapping with one, then two, then three, then four fingers, then double and so on. It will tell you what that means. Whenever you want out, just hit Home button or press the Side button, as I don't know how new it is, probably press the button at the right side near the top. Then, double tap it to get to App Switcher; swipe up with three fingers to close Settings where Siri took you to, plus you also went to General, then Accessibilities and finally to VoiceOver.

Then check applevis.com to try to find a list of VoiceOver commands, and if you don't find them, there will be a phone number for Apple Accessibility, where you can call, and they'll email them to you. Actually, if you want them, write me off list:

4carolynarnold@windstream.net

And I will send them along with other stuff about how to use an iPhone, some of which would apply to the tablet.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 AM
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.


Re: Clearing a laptop

chris judge
 

When I did it on a dell last year it restored it back to it's factory defaults.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am running 1809 but I would think the process would be the same. So that will erase all my personal information?

Marie


On 9/5/2019 1:50 AM, chris judge wrote:
Hi. I did it about a year ago. Are you using 1903? If so, do the following.
Go to settings.
Go to update and security.
From there, go to recovery.
Tab to reset this pc. Press enter, follow the prompts and all should work fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie









Re: Clearing a laptop

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

But isn't it possible to do a disk cleanup after the reset and choose to delete  the folder with the old files?

I don't think the person would have any criminal intent but since I don't know them personally, I can't be absolutely positive of that and want to clear as much as possible. I have never done a full install so a little nervous about it.


Marie

On 9/5/2019 5:03 AM, Austin Pinto wrote:
hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












Re: Clearing a laptop

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

I am running 1809 but I would think the process would be the same. So that will erase all my personal information?

Marie

On 9/5/2019 1:50 AM, chris judge wrote:
Hi. I did it about a year ago. Are you using 1903? If so, do the following.
Go to settings.
Go to update and security.
From there, go to recovery.
Tab to reset this pc. Press enter, follow the prompts and all should work fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie








Re: Clearing a laptop

 

hi Gene
i will reply to you line by line.
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are
the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to
look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old
folder?
if you do a disk cleanup and then select clean up system files option
this sometimes removes the entire windows.old folder but mostly
removes 75% of it.
if you do a reset or refresh or if you do a clean install you dont
have to look for any driver, windows update does it all for you unless
you have a really really old laptop or desktop.
if you reinstall windows 10 from a dvd when the installer asks for a
product key say i dont have a product key.
you should know which eddition of windows 10 you have.
after telling the installer i dont have a product key select the
eddition of windows 10 which was previously installed on your laptop
and as soon as your laptop connects to internet and checks for updates
windows will request if this laptop was activated before and as the
laptop had a licenced version of windows the servers at microsoft will
activate windows for you.
if you have a laptop which came with windows 8 out of the box it wont
even ask for licence key as the licence key is in the uefi so it will
get the key and select the right eddition from there.
yes some laptops have a restore to factory feature but its totally
inaccessible and we need sighted help and again it may keep the
windows.old folder.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below
mine.

I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted. And what are the
ramifications of doing either of these things? Do you have to look for
drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder? If you
are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if
the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would
be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows.

Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from
whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.
That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In
its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and
perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided. Then if you want to
get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of
the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop


hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has
any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the
restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from
the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone
who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs
further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how
difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












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Re: Clearing a laptop

Gene
 

These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below mine. 
 
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder?  If you are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows. 
 
Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.  That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided.  Then if you want to get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
> criminal tendencies?  I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
> or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
> hard drive such as your personal files.  If it does what deleting files
> usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
> wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
> recover them.  There are programs that actually overwrite the information
> and make it unrecoverable.  I'll let others discuss such programs further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
> Behalf Of M.E.N.
> Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
> To: techtalk@groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop
>
> I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
> running Win 10 1809.
>
> Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
> clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
> is it?
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Marie
>
>
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Re: Clearing a laptop

James Bentley
 

Just curious but, is it possible to delete the Windows .oldfolder?

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:03 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
criminal tendencies? I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
hard drive such as your personal files. If it does what deleting files
usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
recover them. There are programs that actually overwrite the information
and make it unrecoverable. I'll let others discuss such programs further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of M.E.N.
Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
running Win 10 1809.

Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
is it?

Thanks for any advise.

Marie












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