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Re: success with Fire Fox

Gene
 

Control k moves you to an edit field where you type the search.  When you press enter, the results page comes up.  But that isn't the page you want as your home page.  That is the page with the specific results of your search.
 
Go to the Google home page in the usual way.  I'll tell you what to do next later today, after I've looked at the procedure.  But you may decide you want another home page because you can type a search after the command control k.  So having Google as a home page would seem to be largely redundant.
 
Gene

------ Original message -----
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] success with Fire Fox

Gene:


People have told me to hit Control L for putting an address in but it already goes there so I just type it in.  Yes, I do want to make a home page.  So if I hit, Control K, I can type google.com and it should come up and then how would I make it my home page?  Thanks.

Shelly

On 9/5/2019 7:35 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what you are asking about searching.  Control is the command to move you to the address bar to type an address.  You don't need to make Google your home page if you just want to use it for searching and don't care what else is on the page.  Use the command control k and you will be in an area of the window where you type a search and press enter.  You can see, but I believe the default is to search using Google and a page of results will come up.  It will be a Google results page.  If it isn't, if it is something like a Bing results page, that can be changed to Google, but I'd have to look at Firefox to see how to change it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:21 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] success with Fire Fox

            Hi Group:


I just wanted to thank you all for helping me with Fire Fox. It's
working great.  I had no trouble downloading and when I launched it, it
asked me if I wanted to make it my default browser and I clicked on it. 
I didn't have to do all of the things that I needed to do for chrome. 
It also reads Facebook just like IE. I'm thrilled about that.  I have
one more question, is there any settings that I need to know about?  I
am very simple.  I just enter web pages by typing in the addresses and I
don't use bookmarks.  I couldn't just hit Control L to search.  It
actually said where to search so I didn't have to type Control L.  Is
there any way I can get rid of that and I can just type it in as
normal?  I never had to set Chrome or IE so just wondered if this was
any different.  This is brand new to me.  Now for my final question,
what are the commands to make google my home page?  I tried the commands
in Chrome but it didn't work.  Thanks again for everything.

Shelly




Re: success with Fire Fox

Shelly Kane
 

Gene:


People have told me to hit Control L for putting an address in but it already goes there so I just type it in.  Yes, I do want to make a home page.  So if I hit, Control K, I can type google.com and it should come up and then how would I make it my home page?  Thanks.

Shelly

On 9/5/2019 7:35 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what you are asking about searching.  Control is the command to move you to the address bar to type an address.  You don't need to make Google your home page if you just want to use it for searching and don't care what else is on the page.  Use the command control k and you will be in an area of the window where you type a search and press enter.  You can see, but I believe the default is to search using Google and a page of results will come up.  It will be a Google results page.  If it isn't, if it is something like a Bing results page, that can be changed to Google, but I'd have to look at Firefox to see how to change it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:21 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] success with Fire Fox

            Hi Group:


I just wanted to thank you all for helping me with Fire Fox. It's
working great.  I had no trouble downloading and when I launched it, it
asked me if I wanted to make it my default browser and I clicked on it. 
I didn't have to do all of the things that I needed to do for chrome. 
It also reads Facebook just like IE. I'm thrilled about that.  I have
one more question, is there any settings that I need to know about?  I
am very simple.  I just enter web pages by typing in the addresses and I
don't use bookmarks.  I couldn't just hit Control L to search.  It
actually said where to search so I didn't have to type Control L.  Is
there any way I can get rid of that and I can just type it in as
normal?  I never had to set Chrome or IE so just wondered if this was
any different.  This is brand new to me.  Now for my final question,
what are the commands to make google my home page?  I tried the commands
in Chrome but it didn't work.  Thanks again for everything.

Shelly




Re: help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Blaster
 

Since this newsletter was e-mailed to you, you're e-mail program may
not be able to render a PDF. You could try viewing it in a web
browser by visiting their website at:

http://towerone.org/

Move to the top of the page and tab until you hear "Our newsletter"
and press the enter key. If you have Adobe acrobat reader installed on
your PC it should open up in the browser. As Gene said, it won't help
with all of those graphics, and I did scan it with DocuScan and it
seems as their mostly decrative, so I wouldn't spend time using the
OCR feature in JAWS unless your really curious.

If you click on the our newsletter link from their website and nothing
happens, you may need to install the Adobe Acrobat reader. You can
download it from:

https://get.adobe.com/reader/

If your still having a problem viewing it in your browser, you can do
as Gene did and download the PDF to your PC and view it in the Adobe
Acrobat program itself. You can download the PDF by going to their
website and instead of pressing the enter key on the our newsletter
link, you would use your applications key on your keyboard or
similarly you could press the Ctrl key and the F10 key to open the
context window and then press enter on the save target as option. This
may vary depending on what browser your using, but their all very
similar.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
What do you see when you look at the message?

When I read the message as a text message, I see long links. I pasted one
to the clipboard, removed the less than sign at the beginning and greater
than sign at the end and then followed the link. I was taken to a PDF file,
which I saved. It read correctly when I opened it in my PDF reader but the
newsletter may be nothing or almost nothing but links to PDF files. But if
you tell us what you see, it would make it easier to know if there are other
ways to look at the information.

When I looked at the message as an HTML file, I saw a number of links that
said image removed by sender. These links evidently are links you can
follow as you would a standard link in an e-mail message. You can see where
they lead. Whatever is in the images that are part of the links, images of
text, pictures, etc. will not be readable by the screen-reader and you will
have to decide if it is worth using the JAWS OCR function to see if you can
get access to any possible images of written material

Gene
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Subject: [TechTalk] help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter -
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Re: Think Twice Before Installing the Latest Windows 10 Update

Victor
 

That might be a good plan. Regarding the iPad, I think when iPad operating system is released in a few weeks, people will find that the iPad is every bit as good as a personal computer.

Victor


On Sep 5, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Or depending on what you do with your computer, maybe just get an iPad for $250 off amazon? I got an iPod touch and find that voiceover is much more stable and snappier than talkback is. So my android phone will be just for phone calls, texting, maybe facebook and messenger and I will use the iPod for everything else including games. 


Re: Fluctuating Recording Volume

Gene
 

Also, if the combination headset/microphone you are using is a USB device, It might have its own settings.  If they are accessible, you might find the problem in them. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fluctuating Recording Volume

No, that isn't it.  The filter allows certain bands to pass and blocks others, according to what I looked up. 
 
What happens if you use the same app and the built-in microphone in the Braille Note, assuming it has one?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fluctuating Recording Volume

Gene, the only filter I find in the settings on Sound Recorder Pro on my BrailleNote Touch Plus is Bandpass Voice Filter. The switch is currently off. Do you think turning it on would solve the problem?

I'm pretty sure it's not the device because I've recorded on Sero, and it doesn't do that there. Besides, for the recording I sent, I used a headset with an in-line microphone.
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Re: Fluctuating Recording Volume

Gene
 

No, that isn't it.  The filter allows certain bands to pass and blocks others, according to what I looked up. 
 
What happens if you use the same app and the built-in microphone in the Braille Note, assuming it has one?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fluctuating Recording Volume

Gene, the only filter I find in the settings on Sound Recorder Pro on my BrailleNote Touch Plus is Bandpass Voice Filter. The switch is currently off. Do you think turning it on would solve the problem?

I'm pretty sure it's not the device because I've recorded on Sero, and it doesn't do that there. Besides, for the recording I sent, I used a headset with an in-line microphone.
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Fluctuating Recording Volume

Abbie Taylor
 

Gene, the only filter I find in the settings on Sound Recorder Pro on my BrailleNote Touch Plus is Bandpass Voice Filter. The switch is currently off. Do you think turning it on would solve the problem?

I'm pretty sure it's not the device because I've recorded on Sero, and it doesn't do that there. Besides, for the recording I sent, I used a headset with an in-line microphone.
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Gene
 

What do you see when you look at the message? 
 
When I read the message as a text message, I see long links.  I pasted one to the clipboard, removed the less than sign at the beginning and greater than sign at the end and then followed the link.  I was taken to a PDF file, which I saved.  It read correctly when I opened it in my PDF reader but the newsletter may be nothing or almost nothing but links to PDF files.  But if you tell us what you see, it would make it easier to know if there are other ways to look at the information.
 
When I looked at the message as an HTML file, I saw a number of links that said image removed by sender.  These links evidently are links you can follow as you would a standard link in an e-mail message.  You can see where they lead.  Whatever is in the images that are part of the links, images of text, pictures, etc. will not be readable by the screen-reader and you will have to decide if it is worth using the JAWS OCR function to see if you can get access to any possible images of written material
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Could anyone help me to open this newsletter using jaws twenty nineteen?

Thanks,

Jeff  

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:30 PM
To: jeffreyschwartz0238@...
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Re: Clearing a laptop

Gene
 

This forum discussion appears to indicate the following:
It appears you can set Windows to not keep any personal information when you do something that creates a Windows Old Folder.
 
It isn't clear from the discussion whether the personal information is removed when you remove what you can from the Windows Old folder but I think this topic needs more discussion.  I'm not a tech, but I'm not sure this needs to be a concern if you use the right settings  and perhaps all this personal information is removed when you remove what you can if it is there.
 
I suspect the other question aside from that is, do you want to run a program that overwrites everything on the hard drive that is left after all files have been deleted that are personal? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

These are questions and comments I have about the message quoted below mine. 
 
I would expect the Windows old folder can be deleted.  And what are the ramifications of doing either of these things?  Do you have to look for drivers, is the effect the same except for the Windows old folder?  If you are talking about reinstalling from a copy of Windows, such as on a DvD, if the only difference is the Windows Old folder, I would think that that would be more work, and possibly the expense of buying another copy of windows. 
 
Also, I don't use Windows 10 but I suspect that the laptop, aside from whatever Windows itself provides, has a return to factory state option.  That would seem to me to be the best thing to do so you have the computer In its factory state, with whatever drivers were on the computer originally and perhaps whatever proprietary utilities were provided.  Then if you want to get rid of old information, running a program that overwrites the part of the hard disk not taken up by the operating system.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop

hi.
i would recommend you boot the laptop out of the windows 10 media and
do a clean install.
wipe each and every partition and rebuild.
this wont make impossible to recover data but if you reset windows it
keeps a windows.old folder on the c drive which has all of your data.

On 9/5/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Do you know the person you are selling it to and whether that person has any
> criminal tendencies?  I doubt that reinstalling Windows or doing the restore
> or whatever it is called procedure you asked about will remove data from the
> hard drive such as your personal files.  If it does what deleting files
> usually does, the files won't be accessible to the computer, but someone who
> wants to spend a lot of money or with the right technical knowledge can
> recover them.  There are programs that actually overwrite the information
> and make it unrecoverable.  I'll let others discuss such programs further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: chris judge From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
> Behalf Of M.E.N.
> Sent: September 5, 2019 12:13 AM
> To: techtalk@groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] Clearing a laptop
>
> I am preparing a laptop for selling and have a couple of questions. It is
> running Win 10 1809.
>
> Will a reset choosing to remove data, be enough or do I have to do a full
> clean install? If the latter, I have not done that before so, how difficult
> is it?
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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help opening message: Towers Times Newsletter - September issue!

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

Could anyone help me to open this newsletter using jaws twenty nineteen?

Thanks,

Jeff  

 

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Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Austin, I provided all this information for free. I would not mind working with you. When you choose to reach out to me.I’m on the central coast. Meaning central time zone. However, it doesn't matter when you give me a dial. I can answer the majority of your questions probably easier if we can you get a time to speak. However, for somebody that is brand-is just gotten the iPad, your brother didn't know know when my book. I don't recommend running the beta. Because if you didn't put AppleCare on there, that will void the warranty. Meaning that if you needed to take it in for any kind of repair, it would not be able to be dealt with.


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On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:32 AM, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...> wrote:

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so
that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.



Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Oh yes, it is Practice, not About.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn
voice over.

To answer your first question, yes, you can set up something
that will allow you to turn voiceover on or off without
sighted assistance. Go to settings, general, accessibility
and find accessibility shortcut at the bottom of the screen.
This shortcut lets you triple press the home button to turn
an accessibility feature, such as voiceover or zoom, on or
off. A good way to practice voiceover gestures is to go
into the voiceover section of accessibility menu and locate
voiceover practice, a feature you can use to practice
gestures.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@...
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:02:18 +0530
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice
over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad
mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to
practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with
that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover
jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more
about voiceover.


Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Troy Burnham
 

Thanks Mike, I forgot to mention I'm running windows 10 here.

Troy


On 9/5/2019 1:13 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Troy,
 
To add to what Tom has said, and if you're running Windows 8 or 10:
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row, and press, Control, Shift + D, to open the Settings Center default
all applications.
2. Down arrow to, User, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow to, Lower audio volume of programs when Jaws speaks, and press the spacebar to uncheck this box.
4. Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] audio ducking in jaws 2019

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>




Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Troy,
 
To add to what Tom has said, and if you're running Windows 8 or 10:
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row, and press, Control, Shift + D, to open the Settings Center default
all applications.
2. Down arrow to, User, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow to, Lower audio volume of programs when Jaws speaks, and press the spacebar to uncheck this box.
4. Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] audio ducking in jaws 2019

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>



Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Holly
 

Troy:

Audio ducking is only available in Windows 10, not in Windows 7.


Re: audio ducking in jaws 2019

Thom Spittle
 

You can either do it with the layered keystroke insert then D for ducking. Or you can go into the start up wizard that’s in the CRT JW for the jaws window then old age for help and a Z like Zulu for the start up wizard.

On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.

Troy




audio ducking in jaws 2019

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

Where would I find the audio ducking feature in jaws 2019? Thanks.

Troy


Re: purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

heather albright
 

Hello, here is a great group to join, they have all the tetorials on anything with voice over and all things apple. They have free classes too! Her is the subscription :

For a list covering all Apple devices from a blindness perspective

only-apple-tns+subscribe@groups.io

cheers Heather

 

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sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
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An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

 

If you can get Siri to turn on VoiceOver, you can go into it, and the first option after Heading is About. Double-tap on about, and do an Olusegun thing; explore. Try single tapping with one, then two, then three, then four fingers, then double and so on. It will tell you what that means. Whenever you want out, just hit Home button or press the Side button, as I don't know how new it is, probably press the button at the right side near the top. Then, double tap it to get to App Switcher; swipe up with three fingers to close Settings where Siri took you to, plus you also went to General, then Accessibilities and finally to VoiceOver.

 

Then check applevis.com to try to find a list of VoiceOver commands, and if you don't find them, there will be a phone number for Apple Accessibility, where you can call, and they'll email them to you. Actually, if you want them, write me off list:

 

4carolynarnold@...

 

And I will send them along with other stuff about how to use an iPhone, some of which would apply to the tablet.

 

Best regards,

 

Carolyn

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto

Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 AM

To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

 

hi all.

so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.

he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.

i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.

so i am going to ask a lot of questions.

1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?

2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?

3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?

4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

Jujube
 

To answer your first question, yes, you can set up something that will allow you to turn voiceover on or off without sighted assistance. Go to settings, general, accessibility and find accessibility shortcut at the bottom of the screen. This shortcut lets you triple press the home button to turn an accessibility feature, such as voiceover or zoom, on or off. A good way to practice voiceover gestures is to go into the voiceover section of accessibility menu and locate voiceover practice, a feature you can use to practice gestures.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@...
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:02:18 +0530
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so
that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.


Re: purchased a new iPad want to learn voice over.

Carolyn Arnold
 

If you can get Siri to turn on VoiceOver, you can go into it, and the first option after Heading is About. Double-tap on about, and do an Olusegun thing; explore. Try single tapping with one, then two, then three, then four fingers, then double and so on. It will tell you what that means. Whenever you want out, just hit Home button or press the Side button, as I don't know how new it is, probably press the button at the right side near the top. Then, double tap it to get to App Switcher; swipe up with three fingers to close Settings where Siri took you to, plus you also went to General, then Accessibilities and finally to VoiceOver.

Then check applevis.com to try to find a list of VoiceOver commands, and if you don't find them, there will be a phone number for Apple Accessibility, where you can call, and they'll email them to you. Actually, if you want them, write me off list:

4carolynarnold@...

And I will send them along with other stuff about how to use an iPhone, some of which would apply to the tablet.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 AM
To: TechTalk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] purchased a new ipad want to learn voice over.

hi all.
so my brother who is sighhted purchased the latest ipad mini.
he installed ipad os 13 beta on it.
i have never used voiceover in my life and wanted to practice voice so that i can purchase the ipad for me also.
so i am going to ask a lot of questions.
1. is there a way to start voiceover without sighted help?
2. is there a guide that compares voice over jestures with that of talkback?
3. is there a guide that tells us about different voiceover jestures?
4. can you recomend podcasts or mailing lists to learn more about voiceover.

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