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Re: latest build version of Jaws and Word eighteen

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 

Hi Jeff.  I turned mine off by doing insert-6 while in Word, that is the number 6 just beneath the function keys, to get to Settings Center.  Then, type the word spell in the search box.  Now, down arrow to the option “Detect spelling while navigating,” and hit the spacebar until JAWS says “off.”  Then, tab to “apply” hit spacebar, then tab to “okay” and hit spacebar.  That did the trick for me.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] latest build version of Jaws and Word eighteen

 

I am plagued  by  the feature where jaws prints “misspelled” when I actually get the word wrong or it doesn’t recognize the word which is correct.  Can I  disable this “feature?

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Thank you this information is exactly what I need. Smile! I am blind. I used to be a TV junkie and owned over a thousand DVD movies until I lost my sight. Now I never watch TV. But my wife still loves TV and keeps trying to get me back into it. She has been blind since birth. Me for many years now.

Merv

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 2:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io; TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Yes, I have this box. It does not work very well and it skips a hole lot making what your watching choppy when it keeps freezing. Also the guide is always down. But when it works, it is  some what accessible! Here is the model number:spectrum :201-h Here is the accessability line: (844) 762-1301. So if you have the remote because the idiots cant tell you because they are idiots! So I am going to assume you are blind like myself. So I will tactically describe the remote they should be giving you! There is no braille guide and the idiots will keep telling you to look for the green or the red button because you know blind people are able to see the green or red button!

So hold the remote in your hand, I am right handed. The top of the remote has a smooth surface that you point at the tv.  Now feel down towards your body and you will feel 3 buttons, two are the same size and one small button. The right button is wher you can turn on the tv after it is connected. I do not use the other buttons, no one ever gave me a guide! So below the this row on the left hand side is a rocker switch and the first on is the volume up and next is mute and next is volume down. To the very right is channel up, flash between 2 channels and channel down.  Now we come to a cross section with buttons around it.  At the bottom  there are two square buttons. The one on the left is the important button if you want to turn on the accessibility features. So hit the square button and on the number row hit 3 and that will turn on the accessable guide. Now if you want audio description hit the same square button and the number 2 and that will turn on DVS. If you want close captioning you hit the square and the number 1. It does not work for deaf blind with the braille displays. Now if you turn on DVS it will stay on till you turn it off.  The other square allows one to start recording on that channel. So go back to the cross and The top has two round buttons, do not know which idiot decided this layout but, the first round button takes you in to the guide with is self explanatory and you can make all the changes, with is not much, set your recordings see what is on tv for at least 2 weeks.  The other round button, gives you more info about the shows and and it will give you more info if you press it again. The top of the cross deals with the box it is a pause button and the left and right are rewind and fastforward the big circle in the middle is the okay  and the bottom is away to show the mini guide which I never use. The bottom circle is a skip back 10 seconds. The other is to exit out of the minues. The fat button between the squares is how you access the recordings instead of having to go threw the guide. The right  square starts recording! Oh I almost forgot sorry, there are 3 small buttons between the volume and channel,  the first allows you to directly search for networks and the one below gets you in to the guide and the one below is another pause button.  I want to point out this box is not fully accessible if you want to access say Netflix, it will not talk and the Netflix app will not talk if you are watching it threw the box. Sometimes it will not announce codes that pop on the screen too.  This remote also drains ones batteries so be prepared to have extras on hand. Also feel like you are going back to the 80s woe. It is super slow and the voice is lacking and you cant do things quickly sheesh. It will just make her confused and she ends talking over herself shesh. Lets just say, if you using the talking guide, it is real slow but, if you turn the guide off it is faster, not by much. They did the bare basic and I do not think they care it was made only because the FCC past a law and spectrum hired idiots to make the box and did not have a blind person test it before they semt this out. I would have given it a grade letter d  and sometimes f-. Oh if your blind, you cant have talking caller id on screen; you would have to switch the non accessible box. Oh if you wanted whole house support, you cant have the accessible boxes. Also if you want to use any other apps, they do not talk even if they talk on other platforms! Cheers Heather

 

 

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 10:29 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Does any spectrum customer out there know the model number of the world box with narration that has the DVR feature? I am not sure which list to ask on. There used to be a thread or several on the Access Media Team group about spectrum but I noticed they are all locked so I thought I should not begin one over there in case they did not want that company discussed.

On Thursday I spent 45 minutes speaking with a number of spectrum customer service reps setting up an appointment for someone to come out and swap out a regular old Cable box for a new box with narration. They also turned on DVR on my account and assured me that the new World box with Narration had DVR functionality as well as the ability to hear audio described TV when available.

The first appointment was 8 yesterday morning. The tech never showed up. The second appointment was 2 yesterday afternoon. the tech showed up with a non-accessible box. The third appointment was today at 9 in the morning. The tech brought a model 110 and installed it which took about 90 minutes because he had no clue how to connect it, pair the remote to my 60 inch HDTV with a simple HDMI input which does not talk, etc.

After he left I spent over two hours trying to get the DVR and the audio description to work only to find out the 110 was the wrong box. I need a later model. So someone else is coming tomorrow around 11 in the morning.

So I was wondering if anyone knew the model number I should verify when the tech comes to make sure it has a DVR before he leaves.

In the last 48 hours I’ve literally spoken to 11 clueless, apathetic spectrum individual from low level customer service to alleged escalation techs and dispatchers. I’m convinced spectrum is Latin for something really nasty. Laughs!

Merv

 

 


Re: Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

They don’t have a clue here in Florida. The fourth guy just came and has no idea what a talking cable box is. He is outside now talking to his dispatcher.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terry Olandese
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:56 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Well, not sure of the number on the box, but they do have an accessibility department that you can talk to. They should know which box that you’ll need.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 11:29 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Does any spectrum customer out there know the model number of the world box with narration that has the DVR feature? I am not sure which list to ask on. There used to be a thread or several on the Access Media Team group about spectrum but I noticed they are all locked so I thought I should not begin one over there in case they did not want that company discussed.

On Thursday I spent 45 minutes speaking with a number of spectrum customer service reps setting up an appointment for someone to come out and swap out a regular old Cable box for a new box with narration. They also turned on DVR on my account and assured me that the new World box with Narration had DVR functionality as well as the ability to hear audio described TV when available.

The first appointment was 8 yesterday morning. The tech never showed up. The second appointment was 2 yesterday afternoon. the tech showed up with a non-accessible box. The third appointment was today at 9 in the morning. The tech brought a model 110 and installed it which took about 90 minutes because he had no clue how to connect it, pair the remote to my 60 inch HDTV with a simple HDMI input which does not talk, etc.

After he left I spent over two hours trying to get the DVR and the audio description to work only to find out the 110 was the wrong box. I need a later model. So someone else is coming tomorrow around 11 in the morning.

So I was wondering if anyone knew the model number I should verify when the tech comes to make sure it has a DVR before he leaves.

In the last 48 hours I’ve literally spoken to 11 clueless, apathetic spectrum individual from low level customer service to alleged escalation techs and dispatchers. I’m convinced spectrum is Latin for something really nasty. Laughs!

Merv

 


Re: Link for commentary screen reader for Android APK file

Josh Kennedy
 

sorry there are no keyboard shortcuts at all for commentary. 


Re: Link for commentary screen reader for Android APK file

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Josh,


Does Commentary have any keyboard shortcuts?


Thanks,

George

On 9/13/2019 5:55 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
first turn on commentary, then turn off talkback once commentary is running. in commentary's settings, under tts, set everything to the system voice and check use a single voice. under content presentation settings, in list settings, uncheck the speaking of list ranges and stuff. under action settings and scrolling, set it to swipe left and right to move through icons rather than swipe up and down. 


latest build version of Jaws and Word eighteen

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I am plagued  by  the feature where jaws prints “misspelled” when I actually get the word wrong or it doesn’t recognize the word which is correct.  Can I  disable this “feature?

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

heather albright
 

Yes, I have this box. It does not work very well and it skips a hole lot making what your watching choppy when it keeps freezing. Also the guide is always down. But when it works, it is  some what accessible! Here is the model number:spectrum :201-h Here is the accessability line: (844) 762-1301. So if you have the remote because the idiots cant tell you because they are idiots! So I am going to assume you are blind like myself. So I will tactically describe the remote they should be giving you! There is no braille guide and the idiots will keep telling you to look for the green or the red button because you know blind people are able to see the green or red button!

So hold the remote in your hand, I am right handed. The top of the remote has a smooth surface that you point at the tv.  Now feel down towards your body and you will feel 3 buttons, two are the same size and one small button. The right button is wher you can turn on the tv after it is connected. I do not use the other buttons, no one ever gave me a guide! So below the this row on the left hand side is a rocker switch and the first on is the volume up and next is mute and next is volume down. To the very right is channel up, flash between 2 channels and channel down.  Now we come to a cross section with buttons around it.  At the bottom  there are two square buttons. The one on the left is the important button if you want to turn on the accessibility features. So hit the square button and on the number row hit 3 and that will turn on the accessable guide. Now if you want audio description hit the same square button and the number 2 and that will turn on DVS. If you want close captioning you hit the square and the number 1. It does not work for deaf blind with the braille displays. Now if you turn on DVS it will stay on till you turn it off.  The other square allows one to start recording on that channel. So go back to the cross and The top has two round buttons, do not know which idiot decided this layout but, the first round button takes you in to the guide with is self explanatory and you can make all the changes, with is not much, set your recordings see what is on tv for at least 2 weeks.  The other round button, gives you more info about the shows and and it will give you more info if you press it again. The top of the cross deals with the box it is a pause button and the left and right are rewind and fastforward the big circle in the middle is the okay  and the bottom is away to show the mini guide which I never use. The bottom circle is a skip back 10 seconds. The other is to exit out of the minues. The fat button between the squares is how you access the recordings instead of having to go threw the guide. The right  square starts recording! Oh I almost forgot sorry, there are 3 small buttons between the volume and channel,  the first allows you to directly search for networks and the one below gets you in to the guide and the one below is another pause button.  I want to point out this box is not fully accessible if you want to access say Netflix, it will not talk and the Netflix app will not talk if you are watching it threw the box. Sometimes it will not announce codes that pop on the screen too.  This remote also drains ones batteries so be prepared to have extras on hand. Also feel like you are going back to the 80s woe. It is super slow and the voice is lacking and you cant do things quickly sheesh. It will just make her confused and she ends talking over herself shesh. Lets just say, if you using the talking guide, it is real slow but, if you turn the guide off it is faster, not by much. They did the bare basic and I do not think they care it was made only because the FCC past a law and spectrum hired idiots to make the box and did not have a blind person test it before they semt this out. I would have given it a grade letter d  and sometimes f-. Oh if your blind, you cant have talking caller id on screen; you would have to switch the non accessible box. Oh if you wanted whole house support, you cant have the accessible boxes. Also if you want to use any other apps, they do not talk even if they talk on other platforms! Cheers Heather

 

 

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 10:29 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Does any spectrum customer out there know the model number of the world box with narration that has the DVR feature? I am not sure which list to ask on. There used to be a thread or several on the Access Media Team group about spectrum but I noticed they are all locked so I thought I should not begin one over there in case they did not want that company discussed.

On Thursday I spent 45 minutes speaking with a number of spectrum customer service reps setting up an appointment for someone to come out and swap out a regular old Cable box for a new box with narration. They also turned on DVR on my account and assured me that the new World box with Narration had DVR functionality as well as the ability to hear audio described TV when available.

The first appointment was 8 yesterday morning. The tech never showed up. The second appointment was 2 yesterday afternoon. the tech showed up with a non-accessible box. The third appointment was today at 9 in the morning. The tech brought a model 110 and installed it which took about 90 minutes because he had no clue how to connect it, pair the remote to my 60 inch HDTV with a simple HDMI input which does not talk, etc.

After he left I spent over two hours trying to get the DVR and the audio description to work only to find out the 110 was the wrong box. I need a later model. So someone else is coming tomorrow around 11 in the morning.

So I was wondering if anyone knew the model number I should verify when the tech comes to make sure it has a DVR before he leaves.

In the last 48 hours I’ve literally spoken to 11 clueless, apathetic spectrum individual from low level customer service to alleged escalation techs and dispatchers. I’m convinced spectrum is Latin for something really nasty. Laughs!

Merv

 

 


Re: Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

Terry Olandese
 

Well, not sure of the number on the box, but they do have an accessibility department that you can talk to. They should know which box that you’ll need.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 11:29 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

 

Does any spectrum customer out there know the model number of the world box with narration that has the DVR feature? I am not sure which list to ask on. There used to be a thread or several on the Access Media Team group about spectrum but I noticed they are all locked so I thought I should not begin one over there in case they did not want that company discussed.

On Thursday I spent 45 minutes speaking with a number of spectrum customer service reps setting up an appointment for someone to come out and swap out a regular old Cable box for a new box with narration. They also turned on DVR on my account and assured me that the new World box with Narration had DVR functionality as well as the ability to hear audio described TV when available.

The first appointment was 8 yesterday morning. The tech never showed up. The second appointment was 2 yesterday afternoon. the tech showed up with a non-accessible box. The third appointment was today at 9 in the morning. The tech brought a model 110 and installed it which took about 90 minutes because he had no clue how to connect it, pair the remote to my 60 inch HDTV with a simple HDMI input which does not talk, etc.

After he left I spent over two hours trying to get the DVR and the audio description to work only to find out the 110 was the wrong box. I need a later model. So someone else is coming tomorrow around 11 in the morning.

So I was wondering if anyone knew the model number I should verify when the tech comes to make sure it has a DVR before he leaves.

In the last 48 hours I’ve literally spoken to 11 clueless, apathetic spectrum individual from low level customer service to alleged escalation techs and dispatchers. I’m convinced spectrum is Latin for something really nasty. Laughs!

Merv

 


Re: Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

You are correct about the misuse of information.  My post was getting a bit long to begin with and I couldn't include everything I was thinking of.  I also didn't mention anything about pirate/hackers--an equally scary aspect of the new total information age.  Just ask someone whose identity has been stolen. It can take years for them to sort things out.


On 9/13/2019 11:26 PM, Gene wrote:
I pretty much agree but there is an aspect you didn't discuss.  As algorithms and technology improve, all this information that no one knows what to do with can have some sinister uses.  For example, searches may be used to help determine if someone has a certain disease, which could affect such things as how much the person might pay for insurance.  There is so much disorganized information that I doubt much or most of it will be used, but there are certain specific and defined areas where it may be.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Hi Group,

As concerns this privacy issue: one cannot become too paranoid about the
situation.  It is true that the government and business can accumulate
massive amounts of data on each and every individual. They still have to
sift through it all to make sense of it.  They can key on certain words
like: bombs, murder, terror and so on, but even then, it would be well
nigh impossible and a big waste of time for them to have to analyze
every bit of speech.

For example, how many times do you hear parents say something like:
Little Johnny, I ought to murder you for what you just did!"  Simply
keying on words and phrases would bring up each and every such speech
example.  The massive number of people needed to manually search through
those for legitimate threats would be more trouble than it is worth.

I am still much more worried about the government and now of days even
large corporations spying on individuals who are trying to speak truth
to power.  As far back as the 1950's, the FBI and CIA had operations
like covert intelligence programs (Co-Intel-Pro) and operation chaos as
well as mind control operations such as mocking bird and M-K Ultra. 
These programs targeted the civil rights and anti war movements of that era.

Now of days, you hear of numerous corporations using private detectives
to gather dirt on political activists.  This is as bad and in some ways
worse than the government itself doing it.  Just because the political
agenda is right wing and pro business doesn't make it less dangerous.

If you read the works of the late great Alexander Solzhenitsyn, you will
find out that this process takes on a life of its own.  As much as it is
dangerous to allow such tactics as wire tapping and agent provocateur
techniques, the 'state within a state' whether government or private can
make life miserable for everyone.

One example is that one of Solzhenitsyn's friends was contacted by a 
member of the internal security service MKVD as follows.

"So Mr. (name forgotten) I hear that you aren't very happy with your
local group leader and the way he runs your work place.  I would sure
hate to have him hear of this news.  He could make life miserable for
you.  I can assure you that if I have anything to say about it, he won't
find out.  Oh by the way, you have a young daughter.  She's 16 now I
understand.  It would sure be nice to have a relationship with her."

You see what I mean.  The surveillance state can intimidate even those
who submit to the power structure in every way.  So if you ever hear
some Yahoo say something like: "I have nothing to hide. I don't care if
the government or corporations are listening to and watching what I do
and say."  Remember the example I have stated above.

Something to think about anyway!


On 9/13/2019 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
> Hello to the List,
>
>
> I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
> then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
> question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
> person.  Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
> on by mistake.
>
>
> No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.
>
>
> But, it did get me to thinking. . .
>
>
> I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
> Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do. In the
> case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
> pictures and sound back to where?  Who would want to know this? And who
> would desire to harvest such stuff?  Amazon? Microsoft?  Google?
> Comcast?  The Chinese?  The Russians?  Our own Government?
>
>
> At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny.  We had a
> good laugh etc.  But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief!
> Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road?
> And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
> the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
> than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!
> In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
> full of errors.
>
>
> So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
> them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.
>
>
> But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
> that bother you?
>
>
> I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide.  It isn't like I am doing
> anything Illegal.  But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
> quickly.  And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
> some way prove my innocence.
>
>
> I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
> Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.
>
>
> Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
> he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
> was Racist.
>
>
> And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
> Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an  unwanted Sexist
> behavior.
>
>
> So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
> my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
> some Court some where.
>
>
> Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
> rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
> some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.
>
>
> So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
> recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years?  ha ha!
>
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Spectrum Cable box with DVR and Narration?

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Does any spectrum customer out there know the model number of the world box with narration that has the DVR feature? I am not sure which list to ask on. There used to be a thread or several on the Access Media Team group about spectrum but I noticed they are all locked so I thought I should not begin one over there in case they did not want that company discussed.

On Thursday I spent 45 minutes speaking with a number of spectrum customer service reps setting up an appointment for someone to come out and swap out a regular old Cable box for a new box with narration. They also turned on DVR on my account and assured me that the new World box with Narration had DVR functionality as well as the ability to hear audio described TV when available.

The first appointment was 8 yesterday morning. The tech never showed up. The second appointment was 2 yesterday afternoon. the tech showed up with a non-accessible box. The third appointment was today at 9 in the morning. The tech brought a model 110 and installed it which took about 90 minutes because he had no clue how to connect it, pair the remote to my 60 inch HDTV with a simple HDMI input which does not talk, etc.

After he left I spent over two hours trying to get the DVR and the audio description to work only to find out the 110 was the wrong box. I need a later model. So someone else is coming tomorrow around 11 in the morning.

So I was wondering if anyone knew the model number I should verify when the tech comes to make sure it has a DVR before he leaves.

In the last 48 hours I’ve literally spoken to 11 clueless, apathetic spectrum individual from low level customer service to alleged escalation techs and dispatchers. I’m convinced spectrum is Latin for something really nasty. Laughs!

Merv

 


Re: Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Gene
 

I pretty much agree but there is an aspect you didn't discuss.  As algorithms and technology improve, all this information that no one knows what to do with can have some sinister uses.  For example, searches may be used to help determine if someone has a certain disease, which could affect such things as how much the person might pay for insurance.  There is so much disorganized information that I doubt much or most of it will be used, but there are certain specific and defined areas where it may be.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Hi Group,

As concerns this privacy issue: one cannot become too paranoid about the
situation.  It is true that the government and business can accumulate
massive amounts of data on each and every individual. They still have to
sift through it all to make sense of it.  They can key on certain words
like: bombs, murder, terror and so on, but even then, it would be well
nigh impossible and a big waste of time for them to have to analyze
every bit of speech.

For example, how many times do you hear parents say something like:
Little Johnny, I ought to murder you for what you just did!"  Simply
keying on words and phrases would bring up each and every such speech
example.  The massive number of people needed to manually search through
those for legitimate threats would be more trouble than it is worth.

I am still much more worried about the government and now of days even
large corporations spying on individuals who are trying to speak truth
to power.  As far back as the 1950's, the FBI and CIA had operations
like covert intelligence programs (Co-Intel-Pro) and operation chaos as
well as mind control operations such as mocking bird and M-K Ultra. 
These programs targeted the civil rights and anti war movements of that era.

Now of days, you hear of numerous corporations using private detectives
to gather dirt on political activists.  This is as bad and in some ways
worse than the government itself doing it.  Just because the political
agenda is right wing and pro business doesn't make it less dangerous.

If you read the works of the late great Alexander Solzhenitsyn, you will
find out that this process takes on a life of its own.  As much as it is
dangerous to allow such tactics as wire tapping and agent provocateur
techniques, the 'state within a state' whether government or private can
make life miserable for everyone.

One example is that one of Solzhenitsyn's friends was contacted by a 
member of the internal security service MKVD as follows.

"So Mr. (name forgotten) I hear that you aren't very happy with your
local group leader and the way he runs your work place.  I would sure
hate to have him hear of this news.  He could make life miserable for
you.  I can assure you that if I have anything to say about it, he won't
find out.  Oh by the way, you have a young daughter.  She's 16 now I
understand.  It would sure be nice to have a relationship with her."

You see what I mean.  The surveillance state can intimidate even those
who submit to the power structure in every way.  So if you ever hear
some Yahoo say something like: "I have nothing to hide. I don't care if
the government or corporations are listening to and watching what I do
and say."  Remember the example I have stated above.

Something to think about anyway!


On 9/13/2019 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
> Hello to the List,
>
>
> I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
> then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
> question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
> person.  Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
> on by mistake.
>
>
> No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.
>
>
> But, it did get me to thinking. . .
>
>
> I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
> Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do. In the
> case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
> pictures and sound back to where?  Who would want to know this? And who
> would desire to harvest such stuff?  Amazon? Microsoft?  Google?
> Comcast?  The Chinese?  The Russians?  Our own Government?
>
>
> At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny.  We had a
> good laugh etc.  But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief!
> Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road?
> And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
> the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
> than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!
> In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
> full of errors.
>
>
> So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
> them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.
>
>
> But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
> that bother you?
>
>
> I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide.  It isn't like I am doing
> anything Illegal.  But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
> quickly.  And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
> some way prove my innocence.
>
>
> I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
> Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.
>
>
> Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
> he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
> was Racist.
>
>
> And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
> Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an  unwanted Sexist
> behavior.
>
>
> So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
> my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
> some Court some where.
>
>
> Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
> rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
> some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.
>
>
> So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
> recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years?  ha ha!
>
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: Turbo boost?

Geoff Eden <geden1@...>
 

Some information is missing, were you speaking to Dell about the i3, I 5, or i 7?
 
The i3 has 2 course, the eye 5 has 4 cores, and the eye 7 can have 4 or more cores. So while the speed of the computer is one of the factors that governs process capabilities, the number of cores and the generation of the processor must also figure in the equation.
 
Unless you do a lot of database work, our high level mathematics, the speed of your processor is nearly irrelevant. It probably gets its greatest use in a domestic setting while zipping or unzipping files, as this is the most mathematically complex application to which most domestic users put their computers.
 
The more processing you do, the more heat you will generate, and the more power you will drain from your battery. The creators do their best to give you reasonable speed with reasonable production of heat and reasonable battery usage. For consumers these are wise compromises. For super geeks who are ready to take the risks, let them boost their machines.
 
Chances are the Dell people delivered a newer version of the processor, along with newer support circuitry that didn't get discussed in your discussion about processor speed.
 
Good luck, and enjoy your new computer.
 
Geoff
 

From: Loy
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 3:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Turbo boost?
 
I believe that Dell was deceptive when I purchased my last desktop earlier this year. When the rep went over the specs of the computer I was purchasing. She quoted to me that it was a 4.0 Ghz She never said anything about that was turbo boost speed. . When I got the computer It was a 2.8 GHz.with a turbo boost up to 4.0 Ghz.
Not being a techey I don't know if I got a better computer that I was replacing.
 
---- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Turbo boost?
 
But I would think it would make little or no difference unless you are doing processor intensive tasks, something the majority of users don't do.  Is there any meaningful price difference between machines that have turbo boost and those that don't?  Does it significantly limit selection?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 9:57 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Turbo boost?

hi Marie.
most of the systems now a days come with a turbo boost enabled cpu.
turbo boost is when the cpu increases the clock speed to up to 10%
when it is under heavy use of about 90%
so yes. if you are purchasing a system its better to have it.
if you are purchasing a desktop its better to go for a k version of a cpu.
for example 8100k in place of 8100u.
the cpu ending with k is 10% faster than normal cpu.
also if you are purchasing a desktop or a laptop you must take help
and check the bios to see if turbo boost is enabled.
i have seen systems with turbo boost supported cpu but turbo boost
disabled in the bios.
on laptops this is done to give you that little battery savings

On 9/2/19, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:
> I hear the term, turbo boost for processors and would like a surface
> explanation on how and when it works. I assume it  will increase the
> processing power for certain activities but , when and where? And how much
> importance should I give it if looking at purchasing a system?
> Thanks for enlightening me.
> Marie
>
> The real definition of "never mind" is "you should've understood me the
> first time."
>
>
>
>


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fine reader 15

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

Recently, Abby released finereader 15. I have 14. Is 15 accessible, and is the OCR significantly better to justify a $120 upgrade price tag?


Re: Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

As concerns this privacy issue: one cannot become too paranoid about the situation.  It is true that the government and business can accumulate massive amounts of data on each and every individual. They still have to sift through it all to make sense of it.  They can key on certain words like: bombs, murder, terror and so on, but even then, it would be well nigh impossible and a big waste of time for them to have to analyze every bit of speech.

For example, how many times do you hear parents say something like: Little Johnny, I ought to murder you for what you just did!"  Simply keying on words and phrases would bring up each and every such speech example.  The massive number of people needed to manually search through those for legitimate threats would be more trouble than it is worth.

I am still much more worried about the government and now of days even large corporations spying on individuals who are trying to speak truth to power.  As far back as the 1950's, the FBI and CIA had operations like covert intelligence programs (Co-Intel-Pro) and operation chaos as well as mind control operations such as mocking bird and M-K Ultra.  These programs targeted the civil rights and anti war movements of that era.

Now of days, you hear of numerous corporations using private detectives to gather dirt on political activists.  This is as bad and in some ways worse than the government itself doing it.  Just because the political agenda is right wing and pro business doesn't make it less dangerous.

If you read the works of the late great Alexander Solzhenitsyn, you will find out that this process takes on a life of its own.  As much as it is dangerous to allow such tactics as wire tapping and agent provocateur techniques, the 'state within a state' whether government or private can make life miserable for everyone.

One example is that one of Solzhenitsyn's friends was contacted by a  member of the internal security service MKVD as follows.

"So Mr. (name forgotten) I hear that you aren't very happy with your local group leader and the way he runs your work place.  I would sure hate to have him hear of this news.  He could make life miserable for you.  I can assure you that if I have anything to say about it, he won't find out.  Oh by the way, you have a young daughter.  She's 16 now I understand.  It would sure be nice to have a relationship with her."

You see what I mean.  The surveillance state can intimidate even those who submit to the power structure in every way.  So if you ever hear some Yahoo say something like: "I have nothing to hide. I don't care if the government or corporations are listening to and watching what I do and say."  Remember the example I have stated above.

Something to think about anyway!

On 9/13/2019 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
Hello to the List,


I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
person.  Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
on by mistake.


No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.


But, it did get me to thinking. . .


I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do. In the
case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
pictures and sound back to where?  Who would want to know this? And who
would desire to harvest such stuff?  Amazon? Microsoft?  Google?
Comcast?  The Chinese?  The Russians?  Our own Government?


At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny.  We had a
good laugh etc.  But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief!
Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road?
And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!
In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
full of errors.


So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.


But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
that bother you?


I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide.  It isn't like I am doing
anything Illegal.  But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
quickly.  And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
some way prove my innocence.


I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.


Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
was Racist.


And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an  unwanted Sexist
behavior.


So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
some Court some where.


Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.


So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years?  ha ha!


Grumpy Dave





--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  To be blunt about it, Big Brother has been watching us since the dawn of the internet, no! with the advancement of technology even.  It may not always be Big Brother in the bureaucratic sense always, but just be present on the internet and loads of sites will be watching you, tracking you, logging your every click and pop.  Spammers and scammers are harvesting your email address and sending you unsolicited emails.  Trojans and worms are worming their way into our computer's defences.  Ransomewares are causing havoc,  People you have not heard of are privy to your phone number, and calling you regarding orders you didn't make.  cyber crooks are even harvesting credit card details from facebook and other social media accounts even though they have been supposed to be incrypted.  Big Brother comes in all shapes and sizes, in all kinds of guises, since the internet has taken hold.  Even your ISP is privy to all your cyber activities.  George orwell got it right in his book, 1984.  Bravo Big Brother!

On 9/14/2019 8:34 AM, Dave wrote:
Hello to the List,


I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
person.  Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
on by mistake.


No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.


But, it did get me to thinking. . .


I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do. In the
case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
pictures and sound back to where?  Who would want to know this? And who
would desire to harvest such stuff?  Amazon? Microsoft?  Google?
Comcast?  The Chinese?  The Russians?  Our own Government?


At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny.  We had a
good laugh etc.  But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief!
Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road?
And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!
In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
full of errors.


So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.


But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
that bother you?


I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide.  It isn't like I am doing
anything Illegal.  But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
quickly.  And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
some way prove my innocence.


I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.


Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
was Racist.


And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an  unwanted Sexist
behavior.


So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
some Court some where.


Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.


So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years?  ha ha!


Grumpy Dave





Re: Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Dave Mitchel
 

the thought [police are out there and working hard...I figure this and still say what I want when I want and about and to whom I want. I figure I can retire at the governments expense and have free health care and 3 hots and a cot if they take what I say wrong. I sometimes will tell Alexa and Ciri exactly what I think of their stupidtty and nonsensical answers to serious questions. I figure if the thought poilice want to come and get an old blind white-haired old fart let them come get me. lol

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:34 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Hello to the List,


I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
person. Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
on by mistake.


No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.


But, it did get me to thinking. . .


I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do. In the
case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
pictures and sound back to where? Who would want to know this? And who
would desire to harvest such stuff? Amazon? Microsoft? Google?
Comcast? The Chinese? The Russians? Our own Government?


At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny. We had a
good laugh etc. But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief!
Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road?
And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!
In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
full of errors.


So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.


But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
that bother you?


I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide. It isn't like I am doing
anything Illegal. But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
quickly. And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
some way prove my innocence.


I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.


Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
was Racist.


And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an unwanted Sexist
behavior.


So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
some Court some where.


Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.


So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years? ha ha!


Grumpy Dave


Big Brother listening, and Do you Care?

Dave
 

Hello to the List,


I own a Fire Tablet, and the other day I accidentally left it on, and
then a while later, it was attempting to bring up Alexa to answer a
question, that had been spoken in the room between myself and another
person.  Only when the Tablet started talking, did I know I had left it
on by mistake.


No Big Deal, my friend and I had a good laugh and went on with our Day.


But, it did get me to thinking. . .


I have heard the Rumors that say our new TV's, and Smart Phones and
Tablets are now capable of listening in on what we say, and do.  In the
case of some devices, they have Cameras, and in Theory can transmit
pictures and sound back to where?  Who would want to know this?  And who
would desire to harvest such stuff?  Amazon? Microsoft?  Google? 
Comcast?  The Chinese?  The Russians?  Our own Government?


At first, what happened to me the other day was just Funny.  We had a
good laugh etc.  But, now that I've thought about it, Good Grief! 
Something I said, or did, could be used against me later down the Road? 
And what I said could be misunderstood so easily. Anyone that has been
the subject of articles in the Newspaper, or News TV, which I have, more
than once, have only been amazed at how wrong they reported the Story!  
In one case, I had no idea how they could write an article that was so
full of errors.


So, most of us have these new very Helpful Devices, and enjoy using
them, playing with them, and intend to keep using them.


But, for those of you who have thought about them recording you, does
that bother you?


I can easily say that I have nothing to Hide.  It isn't like I am doing
anything Illegal.  But, on the other hand, things can get so twisted so
quickly.  And I for one do not wish to be seen as Guilty, until I can
some way prove my innocence.


I know for myself, I have suddenly become very aware of these wonderful
Helpful devices maybe not being so Helpful or Friendly after all.


Just yesterday, a College Professor, in my City, made a statement that
he strongly believed that making College Students use correct Grammar
was Racist.


And to top that one, I noticed another report that now if a male says
Hello to a Female, this in some peoples minds is an  unwanted Sexist
behavior.


So if I happen to Say Hello to some lady as we pass in the Hall way, if
my I-Phone is recording everything, this could be used against me in
some Court some where.


Of course, stuff like this sounds crazy right now, and I too would
rather laugh about it than be serious, but what I am talking about here,
some day soon, might not be all that Crazy.


So, anyone have a comment that they would wish to share, that will be
recorded in some Database for the Next 50 years?  ha ha!


Grumpy Dave


Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

HI Everyone,
I usually can delete an address from the to field, and type a different address in the to field if I wanted to, but as of today, when I want to reply to a message, and delete the original address, and type another address, I get a message from Outlook 2010, saying Microsoft is not responding, and Jaws just completely freezes, and I have to restart my Windows 7 other wise, Jaws is frozen, or at least this is what I think. If Jaws isn't talking, I have no idea what is going on. Can someone please let me know what I might do about this. Just to give an example, I see Gene's email message, and I want to reply to him off list. I used to press tab and shift until I got to the to field, and press the back space or the delete key, and that would delete the address, and I could then add a different address, but now that doesn't work.
All help will be appreciated.
Thank you all.
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Line Spacing in Notepad

Mike B.
 

Hi Dave,
 
You are correct.  In a search result I found steps and thought they were for Notepad, but they turned out to be for Wordpad.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Line Spacing in Notepad

Mike...I checked all over in note pad and see nowhere to change line spacing. maybe go to wordpad and use it? how about jaws pad?
good luck to ya.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 3:24 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Line Spacing in Notepad
 
Hi All,
 
Running Windows 7 with J16 thru J2019.  How do I change line spacing in Notepad?  Doing a search suggests to click on paragraph marks and choose from the dropdown, but where the hell do I find the paragraph mark to click on?  LOL  LOL 
 
It certainly isn't in the page set-up under the file menu, at least Jaws doesn't read it.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.


Re: Getting information from the internet such as recipes

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 

That is a fabulous tip!  I tried it, and I can select and copy flawlessly now.  Thanks TerriLynne! 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Getting information from the internet such as recipes

 

Hi Steven,

Thanks for that information. For me, when all else fails, call JAWS technical support. *smile*

 

Here is what they told me to do:

While in the browser, hit insert+v then type select. Down arrow to select copy from … you will either be on from virtual cursor, or on from full screen. If you are on full screen, it makes everything screwy. I changed it to from virtual cursor, and voila, I can now copy from web sites with no problem.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 3:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Getting information from the internet such as recipes

 

Hi TerriLynne.  I had the same problem on medical reference sites.  I would select and copy some text, and either would not get what I selected when I pasted into Word, or my cursor would jump and I would find myself in the middle of an ad.  In Internet Explorer, I just turned on popup blocker by doing alt-T for tools, arrow up once to Internet Options and hit enter, hit ctrl-tab until you get to the privacy page, and then use the tab key to get to “turn on popup blocker check box unchecked.  Hit spacebar to check that box and tab to apply, hit spacebar to apply, and then hit okay.  Turning on popup blocker helped me a lot to be able to select text and get my cursor to stay put.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Getting information from the internet such as recipes

 

I have the problem on any recipe site that I have found.

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 2:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Getting information from the internet such as recipes

 

David, TerriLynne and all

 

It isn't clear whether this is one site or more where this problem occurs.  If its one site, there may be something odd about how the site is coded to display but if it is a general problem, I'm not sure what's causing it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Getting information from the internet such as recipes

 


Hello!
I don't quite understand why your cursor would be moving around. On a web page, the cursor should move up down, right, and left just like in a word document. Is the virtual PC cursor on? you should be able to hold the shift key down, and down arrow to select the lines you want, and then paste them into a word document. you can always bookmark the Page, by pressing control + d and then pressing enter. then you can go to your bookmarks and read that web page whenever you want. you may want to reinstall Jaws or other screen reader, because your cursor should not be moving around on the website. Take care!
David Moore
sent from Android toy!

 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 1:39 PM TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...> wrote:

I am using windows 10, jaws 18, and switch back and forth between internet explorer and google chrome. But I am having a hard time getting recipes from the internet. The cursor moves around so that I have to do a lot of up and down arrowing. The text is hard to impossible to copy and paste, so I have to type it out myself which seems to aggravate the cursor not being where I lef it. Is anyone using the internet to get information they want to keep? If so, how are you accomplishing this?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

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