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Re: Linking An Echo Device With A Bose Radio

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Hi Mike,

I use an audio cable. I connect one end to the aux jack on the BOSE, and the other end to the jack on the Dot. Then I put the BOSE on Aux. Then I tell Alexa to play whatever I want. BOSE is the best!

Jan Howells


Linking An Echo Device With A Bose Radio

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
We have an Echo Dot 3rd generation that we would like to link to a Bose table top AM / FM / DVD radio so we could listen to music through the radio instead of the Echo Dot.  I thought I had heard that Bose makes some sort of blue tooth device that will do this.  If anyone knows if this is accurate and can fill me in on how this works or has done this I would appreciate it greatly.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Pontes Media Downloader

Gene
 

There is a version 3.1.  I like version 2.x better.  It doesn't allow you to adjust MP3 conversion settings, and the presets are far too low for someone who wants good quality files.  the preset is about 128KBPS.  That's fine for people listening on small speakers or small portable headphones, but not for those listening on good equipment who want good sound.
 
But its easier to follow what the program is doing during a download.  You can just read the title bar to find out. 
 
I solve the MP3 problem by having material converted to wave, then using Switch to convert wave to MP3 with the high quality bit rate I want. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:17 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Pontes Media Downloader

Is 2.0 the latest version?  I recall reading somewhere that there was
version 3.0 but I can't seem to find it.


Thanks,

George




How do I remove a song from my iPhone with iTunes?

Peter Spitz
 

Using iTunes, I can access the list of songs on my iPhone but if I try
the delete button, nothing happens. I have a lot of songs that I want
to remove. Any help is greatly appreciated in advance. I do have the
latest version of iTunes and the latest update to my iPhone 6S.

Thanks,

Peter


Pontes Media Downloader

George McCoy
 

Is 2.0 the latest version?  I recall reading somewhere that there was version 3.0 but I can't seem to find it.


Thanks,

George


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn Arnold
 

Interesting that MS calls theirs disability, while Apple calls theirs Accessibility.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 6:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

This is extremely wise advice. I won't go in to the negative tech support that I have received from the Ms Disability Desk. But, to be fair, at least MS has started trying to provide assistance for us. And, I have had some very good tech support from the Disability Desk.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 4:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

If you end up calling Microsoft, maybe create yourself a Restore Point before (instructions below).

Creating a System Restore Point in Windows10 (Run Dialogue steps as well).

1. Go back to System Properties (WindowsKey+PauseKey) and Shift Tab until you get to System Protection and press Enter. Or just hit your Windows key and type system restore and up will come Create a Restore Point, press Enter.
2. Tab down to Create... and press Enter. You are now going to name it if desired and tab through Okaying it for it to begin. It will create it letting you know when it’s done.

Run Dialogue steps

Windows+R to open up your Run Dialogue and type:
rstrui.exe and press Enter. System Restore will open up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn Arnold
 

Thanks for that good idea, Smiling.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

If you end up calling Microsoft, maybe create yourself a Restore Point before (instructions below).

Creating a System Restore Point in Windows10 (Run Dialogue steps as well).

1. Go back to System Properties (WindowsKey+PauseKey) and Shift Tab until you get to System Protection and press Enter. Or just hit your Windows key and type system restore and up will come Create a Restore Point, press Enter.
2. Tab down to Create... and press Enter. You are now going to name it if desired and tab through Okaying it for it to begin. It will create it letting you know when it’s done.

Run Dialogue steps

Windows+R to open up your Run Dialogue and type:
rstrui.exe and press Enter. System Restore will open up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn Arnold
 

I will share the solution, if it is forth coming. Like you, I totally dislike not having it, especially, since I've always had it. I feel like some ability has been stolen or taken away from me unjustly.

Wow, how dramatic is that?!? But that is the best way to describe how I really feel - good thing I am not a cussing person.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Not knowing numerically where I am located in my sea of emails is like being adrift out in the middle of the ocean without a compass. I do not like it at all.

Carolyn, I hope that there turns out to be a solution for you.

I know you will share it with all of us if possible.

James B
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Gene
 

I don't use Outlook but I wonder if the instructions from another list were wrong.  When I up and down arrow in the folders list in Windows live mail, I hear the number of unread messages, not the total number of messages.  it’s a different program but its Microsoft and the behavior matches yours.  So I suspect the information is incorrect. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

If you end up calling Microsoft, maybe create yourself a Restore Point before (instructions below).

Creating a System Restore Point in Windows10 (Run Dialogue steps as well).

1. Go back to System Properties (WindowsKey+PauseKey) and Shift Tab until you get to System Protection and press Enter. Or just hit your Windows key and type system restore and up will come Create a Restore Point, press Enter.
2. Tab down to Create... and press Enter. You are now going to name it if desired and tab through Okaying it for it to begin. It will create it letting you know when it’s done.

Run Dialogue steps

Windows+R to open up your Run Dialogue and type:
rstrui.exe and press Enter. System Restore will open up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder.  It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want.  Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are.  Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder.  I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it.  If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.
 
Here is the procedure.  it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.
 
Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.
 

You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task.  Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type:  alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all.  And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter.  Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down.  Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder.  And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you.  And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too.  I finally got it to work.  My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea.  I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws
 
Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook.  All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device.  That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time.  However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times.  I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them.  Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles.  It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365.  I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must.  Its just a massive learning curve.  Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang.  That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook.  This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success.  They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so.  I am Googling around to learn more.  There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work.  I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes.  it has a lot of very cool features.  Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome.  And, I am now liking Imap.  but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you.  Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

 

Hi all,

 

I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now.  I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again.  4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me.  Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.

 

I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved.  I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list.  For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.

 

I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail.  What else should I try?

 

I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.

 

Thanks for any ideas,

 

James B

 


































































Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James Bentley
 

This is extremely wise advice. I won't go in to the negative tech support that I have received from the Ms Disability Desk. But, to be fair, at least MS has started trying to provide assistance for us. And, I have had some very good tech support from the Disability Desk.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 4:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

If you end up calling Microsoft, maybe create yourself a Restore Point before (instructions below).

Creating a System Restore Point in Windows10 (Run Dialogue steps as well).

1. Go back to System Properties (WindowsKey+PauseKey) and Shift Tab until you get to System Protection and press Enter. Or just hit your Windows key and type system restore and up will come Create a Restore Point, press Enter.
2. Tab down to Create... and press Enter. You are now going to name it if desired and tab through Okaying it for it to begin. It will create it letting you know when it’s done.

Run Dialogue steps

Windows+R to open up your Run Dialogue and type:
rstrui.exe and press Enter. System Restore will open up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Smiling?
 

If you end up calling Microsoft, maybe create yourself a Restore Point before (instructions below).

Creating a System Restore Point in Windows10 (Run Dialogue steps as well).

1. Go back to System Properties (WindowsKey+PauseKey) and Shift Tab until you get to System Protection and press Enter. Or just hit your Windows key and type system restore and up will come Create a Restore Point, press Enter.
2. Tab down to Create... and press Enter. You are now going to name it if desired and tab through Okaying it for it to begin. It will create it letting you know when it’s done.

Run Dialogue steps

Windows+R to open up your Run Dialogue and type:
rstrui.exe and press Enter. System Restore will open up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: Chrome Question

Shelly Kane
 

I couldn't agree with you more.  This list has helped me so much and I am very grateful for everyone's knowledge and assistance.  I am on several lists and they have all helped me in some way or another.

Shelly

On 11/9/2019 1:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Awesome!

that's what this list is for.

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome Question

James:


Thanks so much for all of your help. I followed your directions and everything went well. The only problem I had was when I went to apply, it said access denied and it also said cancel or continue so I just hit continue and then I tabbed through the whole thing to find OK. It wouldn't let me shift tab. I just picked a new hot key and it seems to work fine. I hope it doesn't delete itself like when I was doing it in properties. I also maximized it as always when I was in properties. Take care and thanks again.

Shelly

On 11/7/2019 1:16 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi Shelly,

Lets see if this works.

1. Type the word chrome in to your Windows search box.
2. Hit your application key or, type shift+F10.
3. Use the up and down arrow keys to find, Open file location and hit enter.
4. Use your up and down arrow keys to find Google chrome 6. Hit
your application key or, type shift+F10.
7. Up arrow to properties and hit enter.
8. Tab to the place where it says hot key none.
9. Type the hotkey that you want.
Note, you might get stuck using something different than control+alt+C because you have already tried that before.
If so, maybe Control+shift +C will be OK for you.
10. tab to apply and hit the space bar.
Note, . if you get declined, just hit the space bar again.
11. Shift+tab to the OK button and hit the space bar.

Now, you should be all set.

HTH,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:26 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome Question

Hi Everyone:


Since using google chrome, I when to properties and put in a shortcut
key and I made it control alt C which works great but it only lasts a
couple of weeks and then deletes itself. When I tried to hit control,
alt C, nothing happened so I went back into properties and I had to do
everything all over again. I can't tell you how many times this has
happened since I started using Chrome. Even when I put the shortcut
key in, I have to go to where it says and maximize it again.
Everything that I have done deletes itself. So after I maximize it, I
hit apply and then OK. All of my other programs are fine and the
shortcut key stays and doesn't delete itself. I saw something in
properties where it says change Icon but I didn't do anything. Any
help on this would be greatly appreciated. I just have no idea why
this keeps happening and I even had someone who is sighted put it in
there way and it deleted itself like it does for me.

Shelly








.





Re: Chrome Question

James Bentley
 

Awesome!

that's what this list is for.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chrome Question

James:


Thanks so much for all of your help. I followed your directions and everything went well. The only problem I had was when I went to apply, it said access denied and it also said cancel or continue so I just hit continue and then I tabbed through the whole thing to find OK. It wouldn't let me shift tab. I just picked a new hot key and it seems to work fine. I hope it doesn't delete itself like when I was doing it in properties. I also maximized it as always when I was in properties. Take care and thanks again.

Shelly

On 11/7/2019 1:16 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi Shelly,

Lets see if this works.

1. Type the word chrome in to your Windows search box.
2. Hit your application key or, type shift+F10.
3. Use the up and down arrow keys to find, Open file location and hit enter.
4. Use your up and down arrow keys to find Google chrome 6. Hit
your application key or, type shift+F10.
7. Up arrow to properties and hit enter.
8. Tab to the place where it says hot key none.
9. Type the hotkey that you want.
Note, you might get stuck using something different than control+alt+C because you have already tried that before.
If so, maybe Control+shift +C will be OK for you.
10. tab to apply and hit the space bar.
Note, . if you get declined, just hit the space bar again.
11. Shift+tab to the OK button and hit the space bar.

Now, you should be all set.

HTH,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:26 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome Question

Hi Everyone:


Since using google chrome, I when to properties and put in a shortcut
key and I made it control alt C which works great but it only lasts a
couple of weeks and then deletes itself. When I tried to hit control,
alt C, nothing happened so I went back into properties and I had to do
everything all over again. I can't tell you how many times this has
happened since I started using Chrome. Even when I put the shortcut
key in, I have to go to where it says and maximize it again.
Everything that I have done deletes itself. So after I maximize it, I
hit apply and then OK. All of my other programs are fine and the
shortcut key stays and doesn't delete itself. I saw something in
properties where it says change Icon but I didn't do anything. Any
help on this would be greatly appreciated. I just have no idea why
this keeps happening and I even had someone who is sighted put it in
there way and it deleted itself like it does for me.

Shelly








.


Re: Chrome Question

Shelly Kane
 

James:


Thanks so much for all of your help.  I followed your directions and everything went well.  The only problem I had was when I went to apply, it said access denied and it also said cancel or continue so I just hit continue and then I tabbed through the whole thing to find OK.  It wouldn't let me shift tab.  I just picked a new hot key and it seems to work fine.  I hope it doesn't delete itself like when I was doing it in properties.  I also maximized it as always when I was in properties.  Take care and thanks again.

Shelly

On 11/7/2019 1:16 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi Shelly,

Lets see if this works.

1. Type the word chrome in to your Windows search box.
2. Hit your application key or, type shift+F10.
3. Use the up and down arrow keys to find, Open file location and hit enter.
4. Use your up and down arrow keys to find Google chrome
6. Hit your application key or, type shift+F10.
7. Up arrow to properties and hit enter.
8. Tab to the place where it says hot key none.
9. Type the hotkey that you want.
Note, you might get stuck using something different than control+alt+C because you have already tried that before.
If so, maybe Control+shift +C will be OK for you.
10. tab to apply and hit the space bar.
Note, . if you get declined, just hit the space bar again.
11. Shift+tab to the OK button and hit the space bar.

Now, you should be all set.

HTH,

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:26 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome Question

Hi Everyone:


Since using google chrome, I when to properties and put in a shortcut
key and I made it control alt C which works great but it only lasts a
couple of weeks and then deletes itself. When I tried to hit control,
alt C, nothing happened so I went back into properties and I had to do
everything all over again. I can't tell you how many times this has
happened since I started using Chrome. Even when I put the shortcut key
in, I have to go to where it says and maximize it again. Everything
that I have done deletes itself. So after I maximize it, I hit apply
and then OK. All of my other programs are fine and the shortcut key
stays and doesn't delete itself. I saw something in properties where it
says change Icon but I didn't do anything. Any help on this would be
greatly appreciated. I just have no idea why this keeps happening and I
even had someone who is sighted put it in there way and it deleted
itself like it does for me.

Shelly







.


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James Bentley
 

Not knowing numerically where I am located in my sea of emails is like being adrift out in the middle of the ocean without a compass. I do not like it at all.

Carolyn, I hope that there turns out to be a solution for you.

I know you will share it with all of us if possible.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Address Book and Contact List

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

Why do both of these lists exist on Windows machines?  There must be a purpose but it escapes my knowledge.  Thanks for info if you know the answer.      Marilyn


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn Arnold
 

I do use Message Rules. However, if I learn to do it again, I will gladly go to each folder, Trash and all, thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I should add that if you direct messages to different folders using message rules, my solution wouldn't be convenient. But if you read all your mail in the inbox, it would be convenient.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 2:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn Arnold
 

Thanks. With JAWS, that did not work. As it is, as I come to a folder it does tell me how many unread messages there. So, at night, when I delete Trash, I have no idea how many emails I got that day.

It is beginning to look like the only alternative is calling Microsoft Disability.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

On another list, someone posted the following instructions for determining the number of messages in a folder. It won't tell you how many unread messages there are, but this may help until you find the way to see all the information you want. Maybe you won't want to spend time solving the problem when you can see how many messages there are. Another solution to the unread number of messages problem might be to use the below method and, before you close the program, select all the messages in your inbox and send them to another folder. I made one once called inbox backup, though I seldom use it. If you read all your mail, then send whatever you didn't delete to inbox backup, the next time you get mail, the number of messages you hear announced will be the number of unread messages so that solves that problem in a workaround.

Here is the procedure. it is discussed in terms of what NVDA says but JAWS should say the same or about the same thing.

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

All that gets me is with Insert+Page Down telling me the name of the email list.

At least, Outlook is working otherwise. For a while there, I was just having all kind of problem with it.

As much as I tend to resist it, probably the final solution will be calling Microsoft Disability. I had instructions from them that I posted, but they no longer work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi Carolyn

Here are the Outlook 2016 key strokes to accomplish this task. Your Outlook 2013 might be slightly different.

From outside of a message, type: alt+v and v again

This should put you on a very long sentence that starts with the words:
advanced view settings

In Outlook 2016, I tab 3 times to description filter and hit enter.

Then I have to tab around 10 times to a button that says clear all. And, then hitthe space bar on that button.

Then tab to the OK button and hit enter. Then tab all the way around to make sure that there is not a second OK button that you need to hit.

Then from outside of an email message, type insert+page down. Hopefully, you will hear the total number of emails in that folder. And also hear the number of unread emails.

I hope that this is close enough to get the job done for you. And, MS Disability Desk is still an option.

Good luck,

James B

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Even with Shift+Tab, in Advanced, when I go to it after highlighting Filger, the only options are Field, whatever that is, and Edit.

I am sure that eventually, I will be driven to calling Microsoft Disability again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Try Shift+Tabbing instead when focused in the Advanced Tab, and on my end, there's only a Clear All button.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

My problem is that I can't get to Remove in the Advanced Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Carolyn, I thank you too. I finally got it to work. My menus are just slightly different from yours.

I still do not have Jaws telling me where I am in the ocean of emails but at least I can tell how big the ocean is and how many of the emails have not been read.

I bet you was glad to get that fixed.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Thanks Carolyn. This worked perfectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: November 6, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, I doubled checked in my Outlook tutorial and found this:


Settings for displaying number of mailbox messages 1. Get in mailbox you want to remove filters from and set numbers in.
2. Alt+v+v.
3. Tab three times to Filters.
4. Shift+Tab.
5. Right Arrow to Advanced Tab.
6. Tab to Remove.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Tab to OK again - VOILA, you're done.

Trouble is, I have been trying that; I tried again. I am unable to make it work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

That sounds like a good idea. I haven’t used the disability service but the reports I’ve seen are uneven as to quality and my impression is that it ranges widely.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Hi,

I may have fixed my biggest problem with Outlook. All devices would hang several times per day forcing me to restart the device. That solution is available if someone else has the same problem.

The MS Disability Desk is a lot of help most of the time. However, they have really messed up my PC a couple of times. I have started creating a backup image of my PC before I even call them. Also, I create an image if I am going to mess with anything that I have doubts about.

For example, I accidentally locked myself out of one of my laptops while messing with pass words and user profiles. It only took an hour to replace the entire drive from an image that I had made a few hours before I started messing around.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

James, if Microsoft hadn't fixed my Outlook (all but filters), I would have called a local computer guy, but am thankful not to have had to spend that money. Sometimes though, a knowledgeable sightie can work wonders in a little bit of time. My husband is good, but has no clue about Outlook or any other email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I might be stuck with Office 365. I'll reluctantly get over the numbering of emails if I must. Its just a massive learning curve. Plus, I have an unidentified problem.

All 3 of my devices will hang. That is Outlook hangs.
Then, I must do a forced shutdown and restart Outlook. This happens 2 or 3 times a day.

disability tech support reinstalled my server settings on two machines with no success. They are now suggesting a repair on Outlook.

I have put that on hold for a day or so. I am Googling around to learn more. There are plenty of people who have the same problem And, with many solutions that I want to investigate before I get stuck having to install an image backup because MS or I destroyed my current drive.

I really want Office 365 to work. I am accustomed to some of its menus and keystrokes. it has a lot of very cool features. Its spell-checker and language checker are awesome. And, I am now liking Imap. but, still that learning curve.

Cheers,

James B

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I have JAWS 18, because it mostly works so well, I don't to try to fix something that is not broken. I have Outlook 2013.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

I'm not getting the same results as you. Maybe we are using different versions of Outlook or our settings are different.

Let me know if you discover how to make changes to the filters.

James B

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Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

Insert+Page Down used to tell me the number, which I gave
that command on another list. However, if the filters are on, that command will provide no number information. I would love to know how to remove the filter. But, Insert+8 will sai a message and one out of seven or 22 out of 35, whatever is there.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws

As far as being announced 50 out of 100 not at all sure of how one would do that with JAWS. Hearing how many emails within whatever given folder, just try using the keystroke (while focus is within this folder)

Insert+PageDown



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I get Jaws to number emails in Outlook using Jaws



Hi all,



I've been using Outlook with IMap for over a week now. I am grateful to all who talked me in to trying it again. 4 or 5 years ago, it didn't work for me. Now, I have a faster internet connection and faster computers and I am loving Outlook and imap.



I still have one more item that I hope can be resolved. I want to know how many emails are in my In-box and where I am in the list. For example, if I have 100 emails in my In-Box and I am on email number 50, I would like Jaws to say 50 out of 100.



I have the check box in folder properties checked that tells Outlook to number all mail. What else should I try?



I am using Jaws 19, Office365 and Windows10.



Thanks for any ideas,



James B


Re: Opera the browser wonder

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi Mike.  I believe the Opera Mini is their portable version.  I am running the full desktop version.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2019 2:35 AM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Jaffar,
 
I noticed they offer an Opera mini.  Here's the link.
 
 
Are you running the mini or the full version?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:30 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Opera the browser wonder

HI all. I actually have replaced Chrome with Opera as my default
browser and have no cause to regret my action. It is a fast, efficient
browser with a real effective ad blocker that gets rid of ads that
litter articles you want to read. While chrome promotes those ads,
Opera blocks them, allowing you to get a smoother, uninterupted read of
articles that interest you, which also incidentally makes copying and
pasting of articles or snippets much easier. Years ago, Opera was
hardly accessible. Now, i think it beats the standard mainstream
browsers any time. They have, indeed, come a very long way. Cheers!




where to buy cards against humanity

Kay Malmquist
 

Hi all,
I have been looking for the game called Cards against humanity.  I want a Braille version.  I found a company called 64 ounce games that have the Braille sleeves that you can slide on the cards.  These cost $35.  I agree with the reviews that complain that this costs to much with having to buy the actual game as well.  What I am trying to find out is, does anyone know if there is a Brailed version of this game?  If so, where can it be bought.  Thanks much for any help.
 
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