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Re: Jaws 17.0.1214 Update Download Links & What's New / Fixed
Gene
Calling something like this bloatware, something
that takes up almost no room on the hard drive and that does nothing unless you
invoke it is not a fair characterization.
And results don't generally come from search
engines. Results come from whatever site the designers believe is
appropriate in terms of content. If you check weather information, for
example, a weather site is used to get the information.
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 17.0.1214 Update Download Links &
What's New / Fixed But, do you really need Research It? The information is almost always pulled from Google and other search engines. Guess I’m curious to know what Research It does differently? If nothing, it’s probably yet another bloatware feature and I wish one could choose whether or not to install it.
Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
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Re: buying music from apple thru iTunes
Monica Jones
Lol, I thought that might be wrong; thanks bunches. (wink)
From: Sylvia
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] buying music from apple thru
iTunes Hey Monica, I have to make one small correction to the format. Its m4a. Smiles.
From: Monica Jones
[mailto:coffeegal57@...]
You can buy your music as .mp3 and they should play just fine in other players. If you get them as .m4R, you might have to convert.I think I gave that format right. By sinking, you can put them from your phone or computer or back and forth.
From: Matt Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:52 AM Subject: [TechTalk] buying music from apple thru iTunes
Well, never have bought music before thru iTunes on the computer or my phone. So the question is if I buy it on the iPhone and transfer it to the computer I assume I can do that since it is something I bought? The other question is when I buy something on the phone like music I assume it will go into the music player on my phone? I also assume my music will be backed up to the cloud I assume ? I also assume you only can play this on IOS or Mac or whatever that has iTunes on it only? Another words you say could not put it on some other MP3 player or computer ? I assume you could burn a disk as well that would play in any CD player? I am new at buying this music stuff I usually just stream my music. Thanks for any input.
Monni, the coffee
gal Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Pamela Dominguez
Yes, I heard it once. My brother-in-law downloaded NVDA, and showed it to me, and I thought "This is worse than any synthesized voice I ever heard, even the ones that came with old programs like Artic! Pam.
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From: Ann Parsons Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:42 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion Hi all, I sure wouldn't "like" NVDA unless I could change the Espeak voice that comes with it. It's horrible, dreadful, and really takes away from the initial impression of the screen reader. If she doesn't know how to get a different voice for it, then she would sure as heck dump it. It might be worth asking the lady why she doesn't like NVDA. That horrendous espeak voice would be my first guess. Now, me, I went and got a different voice and I like it. It's David I think, I disremember whose it is, but it's workable. That Espeak excuse for a screen reader voice would start me running the other way if I thought there was no other choice. Yuck! Sorry, Joseph Lee, but you have to admit that Espeak voice is the pits! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Monica Jones
I will let you know, and you are correct about he rules for Imap. WLM warns
me of this everytime I make a rule. (smile)
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion You can use Windows Live Mail in Windows 10.
There appears to be a minor problem when writing a new message or replying to or
forwarding a message according to two or three comments I've seen on another
list. Whetehr this is a general problem or just with one or more
screen-readers is something I don't know. It appears that when you start a
new message or reply or forward, you have to leave and return to the
message. When you start a new message or reply, etc. pressing alt twice
appears to correct the problem. I hope people who use or try Windows Live
Mail in Windows 10 will comment on this.
the other thing to keep in mind about Windows Live
Mail is that you can't make message rules that apply to IMAP accounts. Windows
Live Mail is a program worth considering but if message rules are important and
you use IMAP, you may want to use something else. Thunderbird, as I
understand the situation, does allow message rules in IMAP
accounts.
Gene
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From: Monica Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion really helps too. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:57 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion Win-Enter works in Windows 8 and 10, but only after setup is complete. After you upgrade to Windows 10, you should use Win-U to start Narrator to complete the setup. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Jones" <coffeegal57@...> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion > Hi Quentin, > > Thanks for the help and thanks for the link to your book. I didn't know > that win-enter would take me directly to Narrator. I've been using win-U. > I'm using windows seven. I should have said last night. I will keep this > for when I try it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quentin Christensen > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:10 PM > To: TechTalk@groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion > > Hi Monni, > > You should be able to use the system tray icon to upgrade. You can use > your existing screen reader to make choices such as what you would like > to keep, and then once it starts the install, it will go quiet and > reboot several times during the process. At some point (try after say > half an hour or so and then every 20 - 30 mins) you should be able to > press either WINDOWS+U to start the ease of access options which will > start Narrator and give you the option to turn other accessibility > features on, or you can press WINDOWS+ENTER to turn Narrator > specifically on without the other stuff coming up. > > Once Narrator starts speaking (if it doesn't, go and have another cuppa > and try again in half an hour) then you can use it to walk through the > rest of the install. After that you can either go back to your previous > screen reader (NVDA should work) or you may need to reinstall (eg Jaws) > - Freedom Scientific have setup their authentication server so that it > won't cost you an authorisation to reinstall Jaws when you upgrade. > > If you'd like more details, I have available a book on upgrading and > getting going with Windows 10 available here: > http://www.22point.com.au/publications.html > > The utility people have mentioned you can download from Microsoft is for > if you want to create a DVD to use to say reinstall from scratch or > before the upgrade was available to everyone (Windows 10 was released on > July 29 but the upgrade icon didn't appear to everyone on that day so if > you were really keen you could download the media creation tool and > "force" it. You shouldn't need it now to upgrade though and you do have > to upgrade from your existing install of Windows 7 or 8. You can't > install from scratch and then enter your Windows 7 or 8 key. > > Kind regards > > Quentin. > > -- > 22 Point > > Web: http://www.22point.com.au > Check out our "Making Windows 10 Easy" eBooks and award winning app, > RapiTap! > > On 18/11/2015 12:40 PM, Monica Jones wrote: >> Since everyone seems to be upgrading to Windows Ten without sighted >> assistance, I thought I might bite the bullet and try it too. I see an >> option in my sys tray that says upgrade, but I’ve had some say to get >> some kind of tool from Microsoft in order to do it. Thanks for advice >> and/or instructions. >> Monni, the coffee gal >> Twitter, @Monni52 >> >> Facebook, Monica Rose Jones >> > > > > > Monni, the coffee gal > Twitter, @Monni52 > > Facebook, Monica Rose Jones > > > Monni, the coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Monica Jones
Thanks, Carlos for the clarification. I’m thinking of trying it since I
don’t want to wait till it isn’t free. I know win7 will have support till 2020,
but by that time, no telling how much ten will cost. (smile)
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion Matt is referring to my Win7PE images.
Win7PE is not a talking installer. It can be
used to install Windows with speech, but that is not it's only purpose. It
is simply a side effect. However, you will not require anything like
Win7PE to perform a standard Windows 10 upgrade.
Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: Jaws 17.0.1214 Update Download Links & What's New / Fixed
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
But, do you really need Research It? The information is almost always pulled from Google and other search engines. Guess I’m curious to know what Research It does differently? If nothing, it’s probably yet another bloatware feature and I wish one could choose whether or not to install it.
Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
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Re: buying music from apple thru iTunes
Sylvia <sylvia0647@...>
Hey Monica, I have to make one small correction to the format. Its m4a. Smiles.
From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] buying music from apple thru iTunes
You can buy your music as .mp3 and they should play just fine in other players. If you get them as .m4R, you might have to convert.I think I gave that format right. By sinking, you can put them from your phone or computer or back and forth.
From: Matt Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:52 AM Subject: [TechTalk] buying music from apple thru iTunes
Well, never have bought music before thru iTunes on the computer or my phone. So the question is if I buy it on the iPhone and transfer it to the computer I assume I can do that since it is something I bought? The other question is when I buy something on the phone like music I assume it will go into the music player on my phone? I also assume my music will be backed up to the cloud I assume ? I also assume you only can play this on IOS or Mac or whatever that has iTunes on it only? Another words you say could not put it on some other MP3 player or computer ? I assume you could burn a disk as well that would play in any CD player? I am new at buying this music stuff I usually just stream my music. Thanks for any input.
Monni, the coffee gal
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Re: transfering account info
Gene
On the Windows 7 machine, select the account in
your list of accounts. If you don't know how to find the account, ask
here.
Tab to export and press the space bar. Export
the account settings.
On the Windows 10 machine, open the accounts dialog
and tab to import. Press the space bar.
Import the account settings.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: William Vandervest
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] transfering account info how do I transfer my e-mail account settings from windows live mail on a
win 7 laptop to wlm on a win 10 desktop, as well as my contacts info?
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Cristóbal
All the governmental contracts alone have to make developing Jaws and other
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assistive technology products for FS a lucrative business. Forecasting doom and gloom just because... probably isn't prudent. Who knows what the assistive technology field will look like in ten years or whatever, but I'll worry about that then.
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From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@samobile.net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:19 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Freedom Scientific is being bought out. Hi all, Now, what kind of statement is that? Bad for accessibility? Why? What leads you to believe that merging with Optelec is going to affect the accessibility of Jaws or any other of FS' products? Why don't you read about Optelec before making such an unfounded statement? Optelec is one of the most respected makers of Braille displays in the world, they're second only to Baum. they also make stuff for VI folks, magnifiers and that kind of thing. What I'm hoping for is a less restricted and less usurous sales and upgrade policy. What I'm hoping for is a more balanced business model. What I'm hoping for is a halfway reasonable attitude toward individual consumers and a lessening of pandering to rehab market share. Am I dreaming? Perhaps I am. But one can always dream, right? Ann P. Original message: I get Freedom Scientific's newsletters and I read about this Victor-- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Hi,
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A recent development that may help is if one uses Eloquence from Code Factory (which costs money, but it is way cheaper than say, JAWS Home). Window-Eyes free offer comes with Espeak (one still needs to purchase Eloquence package for Window-Eyes if I remember right). Cheers, Joseph
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From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@samobile.net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:42 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion Hi all, I sure wouldn't "like" NVDA unless I could change the Espeak voice that comes with it. It's horrible, dreadful, and really takes away from the initial impression of the screen reader. If she doesn't know how to get a different voice for it, then she would sure as heck dump it. It might be worth asking the lady why she doesn't like NVDA. That horrendous espeak voice would be my first guess. Now, me, I went and got a different voice and I like it. It's David I think, I disremember whose it is, but it's workable. That Espeak excuse for a screen reader voice would start me running the other way if I thought there was no other choice. Yuck! Sorry, Joseph Lee, but you have to admit that Espeak voice is the pits! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: buying music from apple thru iTunes
Monica Jones
You can buy your music as .mp3 and they should play just fine in other
players. If you get them as .m4R, you might have to convert.I think I gave that
format right. By sinking, you can put them from your phone or computer or back
and forth.
From: Matt
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:52 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] buying music from apple thru
iTunes Well, never have bought music before thru iTunes on the computer or my phone. So the question is if I buy it on the iPhone and transfer it to the computer I assume I can do that since it is something I bought? The other question is when I buy something on the phone like music I assume it will go into the music player on my phone? I also assume my music will be backed up to the cloud I assume ? I also assume you only can play this on IOS or Mac or whatever that has iTunes on it only? Another words you say could not put it on some other MP3 player or computer ? I assume you could burn a disk as well that would play in any CD player? I am new at buying this music stuff I usually just stream my music. Thanks for any input.
Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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IPhone ^ audio question
Bill K <billmeister@...>
Hi,
I may have asked this before, but did not get an answer that worked for me, so let's try this again and see where we go with it. I was able to resolve my blue tooth problem, but here's something I turned on, and would desperately love to turn off if I only knew where to do so. I'm needing to know where I can go to turn off the option to make the volume of whatever app you have on at the time whenever the voice kicks in, or maybe whenever a notification comes on or a clock comes on. Am I making any sense here? I looked through the accessible area, and couldn't find anything that makes sense to me, so can one of you help here? many thanks, Bill K.
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Re: FreedomScientific Vs. NvAccess
Monica Jones
Jaws will never be free, but I wish they had an option to purchase it like AISquared has for WindowEyes. If you get Microsoft Office, you can get WindowEyes free that way. You can get Office for as little as nine dollars. I like all the screen readers. They all bring something to the table.
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From: Armando Vias Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:36 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] FreedomScientific Vs. NvAccess Hi. I really like NvAccess. They have a fre screen reader. You can update the screen reader to the latest version for free. On the other hand, why does FreedomScientific make blind people to pay thousands of dollars on JAWS? It is so high and so expensive. I still like Freedom Scientific, but I wish JAWS was free. -- Armando Vias: Admin/owner of the TechTips Mailing List To join the list, send an email to techtips+subscribe@groups.io with the subject "Subscribe." You can talk about anything technology on this list. Monni, the coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Pamela Dominguez
Kurzweil, from what I understand, is one company that doesn't make you pay for cumulative upgrades. You pay one price, no matter how many upgrades you have skipped. I remember Jaws 4.0. I had that, then I had 8.0 in a computer I bought from somebody, but it stopped working. I also used another version of Jaws in a computer where I was volunteering. Pam.
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From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:48 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Freedom Scientific is being bought out. Hi Ann: I could not agree more! The last time I had Jaws, it was version 4.0! Does anyone remember that one? Now I am dating myself, yikes! Why Jaws 4.0? Well, I was working for Adams Mark Hotel here in my bush; their operating system was Windows NT--where have I been and what's that? At that time, my preferred screen reader, Window-Eyes, won't SHAKE A STICK at Windows NT and I needed a job. Ok, now I want to upgrade Jaws today to Version 17xx, where my xx equals latest version! Aha, here comes the BIG STICK! Got to pay for a cumulative upgrade ... What a rip off indeed! I'm learning to use Quickbooks. If I skip an upgrade in the morning and wait till 2020, all I'll ever pay for is the newest upgrade available in the year indicated. Anyway, dear sis, don't blame Jaws or Freedom Scientific! The Window-Eyes folks DO THE EXACT same thing. The only difference is that, once upon a time, they'll let you pay for it in bits and pieces until it's fully paid for. Furthermore, they don't PUSH UPGRADES that fast. In all these years, they're just at 9.2 even with the so-called merger, and it works with Windows10. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
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Re: Muffled Jaws
Monica Jones
Hmm, I have never had this muffed Jaws thing (knock on wood), but I notice
tht when I use the Anna voice with Narrator, she sounds muffled to me. It’s just
an observation; sorry I can’t help with this.
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Muffled Jaws Hi Marsha, I am using Jaws 16 and have noticed the same problem.
I haven’t yet upgraded to 17 yet, hopefully, that will no longer be a
problem.
Vicky
From: Marsha via Groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:12 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Muffled Jaws Hi
I hope someone can help me with this problem. Sometimes,
without warning, Jaws will either completely stop talking or become so muffled I
can no longer understand. It also returns with out warning. I have
tried this with both versions of Jaws on the computer. I am using Windows
7 64 with either Jaws 14 or 15. Does anyone have any clues as to why this
is happening? If I am using Winamp to read a book, there doesn’t seem to
be a problem. Thanks for any help.
Marsha Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: tw blue
Monica Jones
Look in their help menu for the read me file. It’s thorough. That’s where I
read it. I’d be happy to do that if I could, but just go in the help menu and
it’s there.
Can you email me the manual? I can’t seem to access it. I tried doing CTRL alt up arrow obviously I forgot that is a jaws command, so I did CTRL shift plus alt and nothing. Nonetheless, can you email me the manual? That would be deeply appreciated, thanks.
From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@...]
I think the manual said you could use the alt key to replace the control key with windows ten.
I got tw blue to launch finally. I wasted 15 bucks on chicken nugget so give it back!
Anyways, I assume we must redo the keystroke as they are conflicting with windows 10 keystrokes? Or will I just need to do the pass through command which is ridiculous willy. Monni, the coffee
gal Monni, the
coffee gal Twitter, @Monni52 Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Pamela Dominguez
From the first mail I got, I had the impression that Freedom Scientific was on the buying end, not vice versa, and I thought: "Aren't they big enough already? They are already a merger of several companies, but apparently, that's not good enough for them. They want a monopoly". That's the word I couldn't remember, the other day. Pam.
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From: Lenron Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:32 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Freedom Scientific is being bought out. hopefully this means better pricing fs has ripped people off for a long while now. On 11/18/15, Ann Parsons <akp@samobile.net> wrote: Hi all, -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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transfering account info
William Vandervest
how do I transfer my e-mail account settings from windows live mail on a
win 7 laptop to wlm on a win 10 desktop, as well as my contacts info?
There Are
None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD Lynerd timelord09@...
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Gerald Levy
Not necessarily. The presidency may well continue in the hands of the Democrats as long as the Republicans remain in disarray without a viable candidate with political experience. Does anyone seriously believe that Donald Trump or Ben Carson, who have never held political office can win the presidency?Probably not. No president who has lacked political experience has ever been elected in modern times. So as long as gridlock in Washington continues, as it will with a Democratic president and a Republican Congress, rehab funding is not likely to be curtailed much. And so FS will continue to dominate the commercial screen reader market with its lucrative contracts and charge whatever they can get away with.
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From: Ron Canazzi Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:09 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Freedom Scientific is being bought out. Hello Group, One can hope for all these things, but what usually happens when companies get bigger in a relatively small market is that things become more monopolistic and prices stay the same or rise. As far as the rehabilitation market, I am wondering if this obsession with the big producers of accessibility products might change. With the results of the 2017 elections almost certain to produce a change in Washington, aid to such rehabilitation agencies at the state and local level is almost sure to be severely cut or disappear all together. If this happens, who at the state level will have money to be spent? On 11/19/2015 7:18 AM, Ann Parsons wrote: Hi all,
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Ann Parsons <akp@...>
Hi all,
<grinning> Touche! Good for you! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@samobile.net web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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