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Fw: [mysteries] Archive: Tek Talk meeting of 9/30/19 with Humanware's Grand Ambassador for Blindness Products, Peter Tucic and the three Product Managers. Topic: "An Overview of Humanware Products and Future Developments."

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Did you people see this? I know Peter Greko was asking about this for months.

Ann P.


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Subject: [mysteries] Archive: Tek Talk meeting of 9/30/19 with Humanware's
Grand Ambassador for Blindness Products,
Peter Tucic and the three Product Managers. Topic: "An Overview of Humanware
Products and Future Developments."
Reply-To: mysteries@groups.io
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:56:02 -0600

An update has been posted to Tek Talk Archives



Tek Talk welcomes Humanware�s Grand Ambassador for Blindness Products,

Peter Tucic and the three Product Managers. Topic: �An Overview of

Humanware Products and Future Developments.�



You can download the file using the link below:

http://accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-09-30-19-overview-humanware-products-and-future-developments.mp3



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http://accessibleworld.org/node/2863



Accessible World team

Providing Accessible Internet Resources around the globe.

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Jim Ruby





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Re: Dropbox Interface Changed.

Michael Hunt
 

Hi,
1, Delete your shortcut on your desktop.
2, Use windows + R and type a period and hit enter.
3, use first letter recognition to find Dropbox.
4, use your context menu, arrow up or down to send submenu .
5, Right arrow and send shortcut to desktop. You should be finished.
I hope that helps
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Zaynoun
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 6:02 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox Interface Changed.

How can I go back to the old Dropbox interface on the pc?

--
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Dropbox Interface Changed.

George Zaynoun
 

How can I go back to the old Dropbox interface on the pc?

--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDE SWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 Mobile: +46 (70) 366 63 29


Re: Voiceover

Victor
 

Hello:

If you are new to the iPhone and voiceover, there are many great tutorials on the Internet. Go to YouTube and search for something called the Hadley institute. They have posted many excellent voiceover tutorials. I learned a lot from those videos. Or you could Google iOS tutorials for the blind or something like that. There are many resources out there.

HTH,

Victor


On Dec 13, 2019, at 10:40 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:



Do you have it running  speaking

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary L. Austin
Sent: December 13, 2019 10:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Voiceover

 

I have a new apple phone.  I am having trouble setting voiceover.  Is there a Voiceover chat room?  Is there some who can assist me?

 

 

Gary L. Austin
Attorney at Law
306 Main Street
Indianola, MS 38751
662-887-5398
662-887-2106 FAX
austingl@...


Re: Keyboard Questions

Mike B.
 

Hi Gene,
 
Yes, it's in Tools / Folder Options.  I had changed this to the appropriate setting several times, and apparently it didn't stick, but it seems to be holding now.
 
It sounds like folder options are set to open in a new Window.
 
Check the following:
1. Open the Start Menu
2. Search for “Folder Options”
3. Open File Explorer Folder Options
 

The first set of radio buttons configured how folders are opened.
 

Focus on this set of radio buttons and make sure “Open each folder in the same Window” is selected.
CathyAnn
 
From: netbat66
i don't know exactly where it is. but
open  this pc, to your c drive and open the tools  tab control i think and find
folder options.
and make sure it is set to
browse folders, open each folder in the same window.
then the alt left arrow keys will work.
Netbat

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Keyboard Questions

I don't use Windows 10 but I have never heard of any settings regarding the behavior.  Others may know of such a setting, but I'm skeptical that one exists.  You can try executing the commands while another screen-reader is running to be sure JAWS isn't causing a problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:30 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Keyboard Questions

Hi All,
 
I'm working on my sister's Win10 Pro 1909.18363.535 system with Jaws 2020, and I'm having some keyboard issues, I think.  When I press Alt + left arrow or the Backspace key to close folders or to go back a level nothing happens and I have to use Alt + F4 to do these actions, which is getting irritating...  Can anyone tell me if there's a setting that I'm missing to make these keystrokes work?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Keyboard Questions

david
 

just tried the following, this seems to be the answer.

 

Type folder in the search edit field,

you will hear;

File explorer options,

press enter,

make sure,

open each folder in the same window is checked,

1 of 2.

tab ok enter.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Keyboard Questions

 

I don't use Windows 10 but I have never heard of any settings regarding the behavior.  Others may know of such a setting, but I'm skeptical that one exists.  You can try executing the commands while another screen-reader is running to be sure JAWS isn't causing a problem.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:30 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Keyboard Questions

 

Hi All,

 

I'm working on my sister's Win10 Pro 1909.18363.535 system with Jaws 2020, and I'm having some keyboard issues, I think.  When I press Alt + left arrow or the Backspace key to close folders or to go back a level nothing happens and I have to use Alt + F4 to do these actions, which is getting irritating...  Can anyone tell me if there's a setting that I'm missing to make these keystrokes work?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Voiceover

Carolyn Arnold
 

Try:

mailto:only-apple-tns+owner@groups.io

or

viphone+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

Also Google Videos, Hadley School for blind and visually
impaired.

Those videos are worth a fortune in help!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary L. Austin
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 1:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Voiceover

I have a new apple phone. I am having trouble setting
voiceover. Is there a Voiceover chat room? Is there some
who can assist me?


Gary L. Austin
Attorney at Law
306 Main Street
Indianola, MS 38751
662-887-5398
662-887-2106 FAX
austingl@bellsouth.net


Re: Keyboard Questions

Gene
 

I don't use Windows 10 but I have never heard of any settings regarding the behavior.  Others may know of such a setting, but I'm skeptical that one exists.  You can try executing the commands while another screen-reader is running to be sure JAWS isn't causing a problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:30 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Keyboard Questions

Hi All,
 
I'm working on my sister's Win10 Pro 1909.18363.535 system with Jaws 2020, and I'm having some keyboard issues, I think.  When I press Alt + left arrow or the Backspace key to close folders or to go back a level nothing happens and I have to use Alt + F4 to do these actions, which is getting irritating...  Can anyone tell me if there's a setting that I'm missing to make these keystrokes work?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Voiceover

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Do you have it running  speaking

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary L. Austin
Sent: December 13, 2019 10:35
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Voiceover

 

I have a new apple phone.  I am having trouble setting voiceover.  Is there a Voiceover chat room?  Is there some who can assist me?

 

 

Gary L. Austin
Attorney at Law
306 Main Street
Indianola, MS 38751
662-887-5398
662-887-2106 FAX
austingl@...


Voiceover

Gary L. Austin <austingl@...>
 

I have a new apple phone.  I am having trouble setting voiceover.  Is there a Voiceover chat room?  Is there some who can assist me?
 
 
Gary L. Austin
Attorney at Law
306 Main Street
Indianola, MS 38751
662-887-5398
662-887-2106 FAX
austingl@...


Keyboard Questions

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
I'm working on my sister's Win10 Pro 1909.18363.535 system with Jaws 2020, and I'm having some keyboard issues, I think.  When I press Alt + left arrow or the Backspace key to close folders or to go back a level nothing happens and I have to use Alt + F4 to do these actions, which is getting irritating...  Can anyone tell me if there's a setting that I'm missing to make these keystrokes work?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Is Bluetooth backward compatible

Steve Matzura
 

It's surprising that your headphones won't connect to the old transmitter. You might have to look up the specs for the headphone to find out if they are backward-compatible with older Bluetooth protocols put out by older transmitters.

On 12/11/2019 4:28 PM, David Petrilli via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, everyone I just got a bluetooth headset I think it is bluetooth 5. It will connect to my iphone 5s,it will not connect to my bluetooth transmitter. My question is can older devices connect to newer ones. Thanks for help Daved


Re: Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Gene
 

I don't know enough about the subject to know if a frame will do what you want in this instance.  If you want to consider NVDA, here is the link to the add-ons page about The Golden Cursor.  It isn't clear to me whether you can have someone move a physical mouse to the desired location, then set a position.  I don't know if this can be done with frames either.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Hi group

 

The button I need to access is the “end call” button in a VOIP app so not practical for sighted assistance.

I spoke with Vispero tech support and it seems my only option is to get a custom script developed. This is what I was suspecting would have to happen. Since it’s for my work, I don’t have a choice, but I’ll get it done.

Gene, I will explore the frame idea you mentioned. I did try NVDA and it didn’t find the button, either. I search the user guide for “label a graphic” and found nothing, but I will research the NVDA add-on and see if I can come up with a fix.

Mike B., I definitely have “show all graphics” enabled. When I come across an issue like this, I immediately adjust Jaws so it is reading everything it sees. None of the Jaws cursors sees this button, so, as the tech support person said, “if Jaws doesn’t see it, it can’t label it.”

I’ll make this happen for me. In the meantime, the only way to end a call is to close the app. Not convenient, but it works.

 

Thanks guys,

Norma

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma, I understand about Jaws not seeing or working with something on the screen that a sighted person can mouse, since I find the same thing happening with iTunes. 

 

I can try something with Jaws, and it does not work, while a sighted person can do the same thing, when Jaws is off and then it works.

 

Jaws people are aware enough of this type of thing to have set up Aira to give support without charge for when these things happen.

 

Hope you can find a workable solution for your situation.

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Mike,

 

I’m familiar with these instructions. However, they work only if Jaws sees the graphic. I did mention Jaws does not detect the graphic, but a sighted person can click on it with a mouse.

Ok, I get this might be impossible. I need to place the Jaws cursor on a button which is completely visual, Jaws doesn’t detect the button at all. .

I need to make this happen for my job. I’m going to call Vispero now and keep my fingers crossed!

 

Thanks,

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma,

 

The info / steps below are for older versions of Jaws, but should still work:

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.
 
Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:
 
With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.
 
Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.
 
Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic number. 
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default
file, or both files.  Choose the application file. 
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.
 
 
 
Back
 
 Next
 
 
Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.
 
To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G.
 
JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.
 
After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic
you selected.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi list,

I'm using Jaws 2020 current and I have a desktop app that has graphics I need to label. Jaws does not detect the graphic at all, but my sighted friend can click on it with the mouse. Since I need to have the Jaws cursor on the graphic in order to label it, is there a way to either have the Jaws cursor tether with the mouse pointer or have the Jaws cursor move to where the mouse pointer is?

Thanks,
Norma


Re: Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group

 

The button I need to access is the “end call” button in a VOIP app so not practical for sighted assistance.

I spoke with Vispero tech support and it seems my only option is to get a custom script developed. This is what I was suspecting would have to happen. Since it’s for my work, I don’t have a choice, but I’ll get it done.

Gene, I will explore the frame idea you mentioned. I did try NVDA and it didn’t find the button, either. I search the user guide for “label a graphic” and found nothing, but I will research the NVDA add-on and see if I can come up with a fix.

Mike B., I definitely have “show all graphics” enabled. When I come across an issue like this, I immediately adjust Jaws so it is reading everything it sees. None of the Jaws cursors sees this button, so, as the tech support person said, “if Jaws doesn’t see it, it can’t label it.”

I’ll make this happen for me. In the meantime, the only way to end a call is to close the app. Not convenient, but it works.

 

Thanks guys,

Norma

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma, I understand about Jaws not seeing or working with something on the screen that a sighted person can mouse, since I find the same thing happening with iTunes. 

 

I can try something with Jaws, and it does not work, while a sighted person can do the same thing, when Jaws is off and then it works.

 

Jaws people are aware enough of this type of thing to have set up Aira to give support without charge for when these things happen.

 

Hope you can find a workable solution for your situation.

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Mike,

 

I’m familiar with these instructions. However, they work only if Jaws sees the graphic. I did mention Jaws does not detect the graphic, but a sighted person can click on it with a mouse.

Ok, I get this might be impossible. I need to place the Jaws cursor on a button which is completely visual, Jaws doesn’t detect the button at all. .

I need to make this happen for my job. I’m going to call Vispero now and keep my fingers crossed!

 

Thanks,

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma,

 

The info / steps below are for older versions of Jaws, but should still work:

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.
 
Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:
 
With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.
 
Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.
 
Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic number. 
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default
file, or both files.  Choose the application file. 
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.
 
 
 
Back
 
 Next
 
 
Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.
 
To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G.
 
JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.
 
After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic
you selected.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi list,

I'm using Jaws 2020 current and I have a desktop app that has graphics I need to label. Jaws does not detect the graphic at all, but my sighted friend can click on it with the mouse. Since I need to have the Jaws cursor on the graphic in order to label it, is there a way to either have the Jaws cursor tether with the mouse pointer or have the Jaws cursor move to where the mouse pointer is?

Thanks,
Norma


Re: Accessibility of Synology NAS DiskStation

Steve Matzura
 

Video, audiobooks, music in lossless formats, and copies of installers for some of my sample libraries where a count of how many times I've downloaded is kept. There aren't too many companies that do this, but for the few that do, it's valuable to have the  media to re-install them without detracting from my count of allowable downloads.

On 12/10/2019 12:26 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:
We are just looking at a simple two-bay system such as the DS218j, and possibly two 4-TB drives.

Just out of curiosity, what kinds of things do you store with all that space?

Thanks for your response.
Pam


________________________________________
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [main@TechTalk.groups.io] on behalf of Steve Matzura via Groups.Io [number6=noisynotes.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessibility of Synology NAS DiskStation

It could be better, but it's not impossible. Several dialogs put your
screenreader into application mode, and the layout of the DSM is quirky
in my unhumble opinion, but it's all very doable.


Which model do you plan on getting? I Have the DS1815+ with eight bays,
currently holding 3TB drives in each one, maybe going to upgrade to some
bigger drives for more space.


On 12/9/2019 6:02 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone have experience with using a NAS DiskStation from Synology with a screen reader? We are considering getting one for backing up our laptops and also for storing our music. We would like to then be able to play our music through our receiver.

Can anyone comment on the accessibility of this product or its related apps?

Thanks,
Pam



Re: Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my groups and can't see more posts

Debbie April Yuille
 

Yeah, exactly. I love it. I don’t know why it’s not more commonly known.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Friday, 13 December 2019 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my groups and can't see more posts

 

Debbie, thank you so much for sharing this. I had similar issues with m.facebook.com after switching to Chrome. Now, I'm back to using what's familiar to me, and it's so much easier.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my groups and can't see more posts

Debbie April Yuille
 

You're welcome. I was very lucky to have received a tip about that site about a year go and I've been using it ever since.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: Friday, 13 December 2019 2:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my groups and can't see more posts

Debbie:

Your link works perfectly with Chrome, thank you very much.
https://mbasic.facebook.com/

On 12/11/19, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi Gene and Peter



For some reason Chrome doesn’t take you to the MFacebook site. For
some reason, it takes you to a mobile site specifically optimised for
touch screens. You can go to

https://mbasic.facebook.com/

Instead.



HTH

Debbie



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2019 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find
my groups and can't see more posts



I doubt it. There are times when one browser sees something on a page
and another doesn't. When I upload a file to Send Space, I see a line
of text using Firefox on the page after I select the file to upload
that I don't see using Chrome. And the text is actually for a control
that might be convenient to use at times. It allows you to cancel your selection.



What you are describing is why it is important for people who are more
than just casual Internet users to have and use more than one browser.
You may want to use Internet Explorer for that site and use Chrome
generally. Or you may want to use Firefox on that site if it shows what you want.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter Spitz <mailto:peter.a.spitz@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:20 AM

To: main <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my
groups and can't see more posts



I recently switched over to Chrome from Internet Explorer using Jaws
2020 and Windows 10. Using m.facebook.com, I can no longer find a
link to take me to my Facebook groups. Also, there is no "See More
Stories" at the bottom of the page. Wondering if there is a setting I
need to do to make these appear?

Thanks in advance!

Peter









Re: Google Chrome and m.facebook.com: Can't find my groups and can't see more posts

Abbie Taylor
 

Debbie, thank you so much for sharing this. I had similar issues with m.facebook.com after switching to Chrome. Now, I'm back to using what's familiar to me, and it's so much easier.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Mike B.
 


Did you set, Graphics, in the Settings Center to show, All, graphics?  I've never tried to label a desktop graphic, so I don't have a clue as to how that would work.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Hi Mike,

 

I’m familiar with these instructions. However, they work only if Jaws sees the graphic. I did mention Jaws does not detect the graphic, but a sighted person can click on it with a mouse.

Ok, I get this might be impossible. I need to place the Jaws cursor on a button which is completely visual, Jaws doesn’t detect the button at all. .

I need to make this happen for my job. I’m going to call Vispero now and keep my fingers crossed!

 

Thanks,

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma,

 

The info / steps below are for older versions of Jaws, but should still work:

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.
 
Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:
 
With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.
 
Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.
 
Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic number. 
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default
file, or both files.  Choose the application file. 
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.
 
 
 
Back
 
 Next
 
 
Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.
 
To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G.
 
JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.
 
After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic
you selected.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi list,

I'm using Jaws 2020 current and I have a desktop app that has graphics I need to label. Jaws does not detect the graphic at all, but my sighted friend can click on it with the mouse. Since I need to have the Jaws cursor on the graphic in order to label it, is there a way to either have the Jaws cursor tether with the mouse pointer or have the Jaws cursor move to where the mouse pointer is?

Thanks,
Norma




Re: Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

Gene
 

JAWS may be able to do this if you define a frame and set that frame to take an action when you press a command.  A sighted person can define the frame where the button is.
 
NVDA may be able to do this with a sighted person setting the location.  There is an NVDA add-on that may be able to do this.  I don’t know enough about it to discuss it but you might want to join the NVDA list where users of the add-on can discuss it.  Also, NVDA can read what a ;physical mouse moves over, an ability that may or may not help you.  We don’t know if NVDA will see the button, any more than JAWS does.  But the add-on I spoke of can be set to move to an exact part of the screen so you may be able to move to that exact place, then take an action.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws
 

Hi Mike,

 

I’m familiar with these instructions. However, they work only if Jaws sees the graphic. I did mention Jaws does not detect the graphic, but a sighted person can click on it with a mouse.

Ok, I get this might be impossible. I need to place the Jaws cursor on a button which is completely visual, Jaws doesn’t detect the button at all. .

I need to make this happen for my job. I’m going to call Vispero now and keep my fingers crossed!

 

Thanks,

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi Norma,

 

The info / steps below are for older versions of Jaws, but should still work:

Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.
 
Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:
 
With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.
 
Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.
 
Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic number.
Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default
file, or both files.  Choose the application file.
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics
Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.
 
 
 
Back
 
Next
 
 
Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that appears
on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.
 
To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G.
 
JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished.
When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.
 
After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you can
use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic
you selected.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Need help labeling a graphic with Jaws

 

Hi list,

I'm using Jaws 2020 current and I have a desktop app that has graphics I need to label. Jaws does not detect the graphic at all, but my sighted friend can click on it with the mouse. Since I need to have the Jaws cursor on the graphic in order to label it, is there a way to either have the Jaws cursor tether with the mouse pointer or have the Jaws cursor move to where the mouse pointer is?

Thanks,
Norma



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