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Re: About alt tabbing

Howard Traxler
 

And, if you let up the alt key between tabs, you only get to see the last two windows.


On 12/16/2019 6:55 PM, Gene wrote:
Not just opened windows.  The program must be shown in the task bar.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Yes, alt tab moves through open windows.
Did I say otherwise?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open?  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG
















Re: About alt tabbing

Onwardbob
 

Neither was working, but it's all good now...thanks all

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi Bob,

Check out the note below and see if the keystroke, Windows key + Tab, will
work for you.

Original Message
From: Justin Williams
I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two. Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin
From: Rebecca Lineberger
I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows. Press enter on the one you want to
select it. If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile. Smile.
Rebecca



Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
To: talk <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: About alt tabbing

Gene
 

Not just opened windows.  The program must be shown in the task bar.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Yes, alt tab moves through open windows.
Did I say otherwise?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open?  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG















Re: Switching to Android phone

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I totally ditched IPhone because there is no freedom to share or get other stuff from other platforms except for Apple itself.  I found it a constant irritant to not be able to share stuff with my son and my friends, and so, even if the IPhone is a little more accessible, i made the switch to Android and have not regretted it.  Yes there are some irritating quirks found in Android, but I can live with those and enjoy more freedom of use rather than to have to Jailbreak the IPhone to get what I want. JailBreak?  what a horrid criminal terminology for non-criminals.

On 12/17/2019 7:32 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Also, there is a book by Ana Garza on Android, but it is
pretty old. You could check with NPR to see what they have
on Android.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 12:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Switching to Android phone

I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on
the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play
around with it, and my first impression is that I really
like it. Does anyone out there have access to a basic
tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android? I
still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more
up-to-date phone. Also, could someone recommend an Android
phone that records in stereo without external mics, and
would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?





Re: About alt tabbing

Monte Single
 

Well, as I understand it, there cannot be a window for a program or app
unless some instance of that program is open.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 6:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

No, but it seemed like people thought it was supposed to show all windows.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 6:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Yes, alt tab moves through open windows.
Did I say otherwise?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: About alt tabbing

Pamela Dominguez
 

No, but it seemed like people thought it was supposed to show all windows. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 6:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Yes, alt tab moves through open windows.
Did I say otherwise?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: About alt tabbing

Monte Single
 

Yes, alt tab moves through open windows.
Did I say otherwise?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December-16-19 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: Switching to Android phone

Carolyn Arnold
 

Also, there is a book by Ana Garza on Android, but it is
pretty old. You could check with NPR to see what they have
on Android.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 12:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Switching to Android phone

I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on
the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play
around with it, and my first impression is that I really
like it. Does anyone out there have access to a basic
tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android? I
still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more
up-to-date phone. Also, could someone recommend an Android
phone that records in stereo without external mics, and
would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?


Re: Switching to Android phone

Carolyn Arnold
 

Hadley has Android videos, but I think they are for visually impaired. I do not know if they have any for totally blind users yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 1:18 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Switching to Android phone

Hello,

I recommend you join the antad list at antad+subscribe@googlegroups.com <mailto:antad%2Bsubscribe@googlegroups.com> , the eyes-free list at eyes-free+subscribe.com <http://subscribe.com> , or listen to the Antad podcast which can be found in most podcast apps. You can also check out inclusiveandroid.com <http://inclusiveandroid.com> as well. These will get you started with ANdroid, although the tutorials which come with the screen readers are pretty good as well. As for phone recommendations, the Galaxy phones and Pixel phones would be my recommendations. I am a Pixel 4 user, an find the phone to be a delight to use. I have used Samsung phones in the past, and while I find them not to be as responsive and while I don't like them for their slower updates, I think they are good devices, and Voice Assistant has 3-finger gestures, which may be helpful to someone switching from iOS, as well as the magic tap gesture, which would also be helpful.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:02 AM Steven Johnson <saxmonger@comcast.net <mailto:saxmonger@comcast.net> > wrote:


I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play around with it, and my first impression is that I really like it. Does anyone out there have access to a basic tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android? I still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more up-to-date phone. Also, could someone recommend an Android phone that records in stereo without external mics, and would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?







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Re: About alt tabbing

Pamela Dominguez
 

Doesn't alt tabbing only work if the windows are open? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.



















-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: About alt tabbing

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Bob,
 
Check out the note below and see if the keystroke, Windows key + Tab, will work for you.
 
 Original Message 
From: Justin Williams
I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin
From: Rebecca Lineberger
I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
Rebecca
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
To: talk
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG






Re: Switching to Android phone

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

Hi THERE!

I do not have ready answers to your questions, but you might try subscribing to the 'blind Androids group'. There you can get answers to just about anything android.  Good Luck and Have

<wohlggie@...><KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.A Good 1! de

On 16-Dec-19 12:01, Steven Johnson wrote:

I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play around with it, and my first impression is that I really like it.  Does anyone out there have access to a basic tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android?  I still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more up-to-date phone.  Also, could someone recommend an Android phone that records in stereo without external mics, and would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?


Re: About alt tabbing

Monte Single
 

Is this in win7 or 10
In win 10 alt tabbing no longer includes the desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: December-16-19 1:34 PM
To: talk <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] About alt tabbing

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


About alt tabbing

Onwardbob
 

Hi, just recently while alt tabbing I only land on two out of the five items
that should be there. Why, and what can I do?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


Re: Switching to Android phone

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I recommend you join the antad list at antad+subscribe@..., the eyes-free list at eyes-free+subscribe.com, or listen to the Antad podcast which can be found in most podcast apps. You can also check out inclusiveandroid.com as well. These will get you started with ANdroid, although the tutorials which come with the screen readers are pretty good as well. As for phone recommendations, the Galaxy phones and Pixel phones would be my recommendations. I am a Pixel 4 user, an find the phone to be a delight to use. I have used Samsung phones in the past, and while I find them not to be as responsive and while I don't like them for their slower updates, I think they are good devices, and Voice Assistant has 3-finger gestures, which may be helpful to someone switching from iOS, as well as the magic tap gesture, which would also be helpful.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:02 AM Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...> wrote:

I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play around with it, and my first impression is that I really like it.  Does anyone out there have access to a basic tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android?  I still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more up-to-date phone.  Also, could someone recommend an Android phone that records in stereo without external mics, and would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?



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by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
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Re: usb fan

Monte Single
 

OK.

I shut the machine down.   Plugged the fan into the other front usb ports and it ran.

It did not run in the rear ports while shut down.

This pc has no cd tray.

That’s fine, now I know which is what.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: December-16-19 12:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] usb fan

 

Hi Monte,

 

Yes but, did you check all the front USB ports?  I've only encountered computers that supply power to a couple USB ports, but not all USB ports.  I'm not saying you're wrong, but just so you know, you should all the ports so you know which USB ports have power to charge or run devices when the computer is shutdown


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 4:32 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] usb fan

 

Hi Techtalkers!

 

My usb fans arrived on Friday.

I wanted 1 so I could tell if my hp small form factor desktop has shut down or not as it runs so quietly.

It has 10 usb ports; four front and six back.

I plugged the fan   into  a front port and it began to spin.

  Says I, this pc is not running; I checked and it was not.

Then I plugged the same fan into a rear port and it did not run.

So, it seems that with the computer shut down, there is power to the front ports  but not the rear.

Just another answer for trivial persuits.


Switching to Android phone

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 

I have been an iPhoner for 10 years, but my wife turned on the screenreader on her new Samsung and allowed me to play around with it, and my first impression is that I really like it.  Does anyone out there have access to a basic tutorial for a screenreader user brand new to Android?  I still have an iPhone 5, so it is time to step up to a more up-to-date phone.  Also, could someone recommend an Android phone that records in stereo without external mics, and would be a good uncomplicated phone for a new user?


Re: refreshed Lenovo, Windows 10, NVDA web commands problem?

Gene
 

Can you move around on web pages using the regular navigation methods such as up and down arrow and tabbing? 
 
While I don't know if this will help, NVDA has an item you can run that may correct the problem.  But your description isn't what I would expect for this to work.  But it won't do any harm and it might help.
 
There are times when files become unregistered that NVDA needs to work properly in browse mode with most browsers.
New main steps start on new lines.
Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n.
Down arrow to tools and press enter.
You are in the tools submenu.  Up or down arrow to run registry fixing tool.  That isn't the exact wording but its close.  Press enter. 
I haven't run it so whether there is anything else to do, you can see.  That's probably it except maybe to respond to a confirmation that it has been run.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 9:09 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] refreshed Lenovo, Windows 10, NVDA web commands problem?

Hello all,

I recently brought a 5-year-old Lenovo laptop to the Geek Squad for
cleaning up. I'd done my own backups beforehand.
As I expected, I got the unit back in working condition, a tad faster
than it was, and pretty much stripped of much of my familiar software.
No problem, I fully expected this.

My main problem is that web browsing commands such as h for header and k
for next link will not work.

What's odd is that these commands DO Work in  Thunderbird but not in any
web browser, Google Chrome or Firefox.

Is there some NVDA setting I have forgotten?
Or is there some windows or browser setting I must change?

Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.

John Sanfilippo


--
- JS o m -




Re: Deleting data or reformatting computer to prepare for sale.

Gene
 

It depends on how thoroughly you want to remove data.  Reformatting doesn't remove it.  Others will probably discuss this, but you can use programs that overwrite data on the disk.  When you delete information or format, it is still there.  The instructions that tell the computer how to find it are removed and the computer treats the space as blank but someone with sufficient technical knowledge can find it.  Overwriting it enough times makes it unrecoverable.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:01 AM
To: main
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting data or reformatting computer to prepare for sale.

I have a Dell desktop with Windows 8.1 that I have recently replaced
with a newer system.  I want to sell it but only after I have removed
all personal data.  Could someone advise how I go about doing this?  I
would be happy to simply reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows
but don't know how to get started on that.

Thanks in advance for any advice.



Deleting data or reformatting computer to prepare for sale.

Peter Spitz
 

I have a Dell desktop with Windows 8.1 that I have recently replaced
with a newer system. I want to sell it but only after I have removed
all personal data. Could someone advise how I go about doing this? I
would be happy to simply reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows
but don't know how to get started on that.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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