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Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

It's probably because the people that are posting or moderated. And no, everything is discussed live with the developer. And everybody puts their two cents in, and then they help him tweak it if they see any problems.

On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Good idea, but they probably talk about a lot of thing that never make it into production. I'm only interested in what goes live.


P.S.: Are they having a bad day over there or something: I posted messages over seven hours ago that are just now coming through and getting onto the lists to which they were posted.


On 1/28/2020 10:02 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.
On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?
Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Steve Matzura
 

Good idea, but they probably talk about a lot of thing that never make it into production. I'm only interested in what goes live.


P.S.: Are they having a bad day over there or something: I posted messages over seven hours ago that are just now coming through and getting onto the lists to which they were posted.

On 1/28/2020 10:02 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.
On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?
Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.

On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?
groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Steve Matzura
 

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?
Navigating Links in Outlook with JAWS

Abbie Taylor
 

I subscribe to this and other lists on groups.io in daily summary mode. This means I receive one message per day with links to messages posted the previous day. While navigating such a message with JAWS, when I press Enter on a link, I end up on a page other than the one I wanted. This happens no matter whether I’m navigating with the down arrow or Tab key. I don’t have this issue with NVDA. So, is there a trick to navigating links in Outlook with JAWS? I’m not finding any information in the help files on this. So, I’d appreciate any ideas anyone has.

 

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 

 

 


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Re: JAWS: Space Markers in Word

Abbie Taylor
 

Wow! Thank you all so much for your responses. Pressing Alt plus H and then the number 8 seems to have solved the problem. Yipee Skippee!

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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.comWow! Thank you all so much for your responses. Pressing Alt plus H and then the number 8 seems to have solved the problem. Yipee Skippee!

 

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windows10 mail app

heather albright
 

Hello, I had to delete my personal mail account  in order to fix it. I have it back on my pc however, I cant find where I can set the account order settings so, my personal account pops up first before all my other accounts. It is set for last. So when I open my e-mail app this account does not show till I go to that account to make it show up! I looked and could not see an order for preference of accounts. Any ideas? Cheers Heather s

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Buying a new laptop

Kathy Pingstock
 

Yes I have a laptop and HP 64 bit

On Jan 28, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:

Hi Kathy,
You need to set some limits on your selection.
What are you going to use your laptop for?
Do you want to have a full keyboard with the numpad?
Most new laptops no longer come with a cd/dvd drive, does that matter?
You can spen from 300 to 3000 on a new laptop. What is your budget?
Give us some clues, than we can help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: January-28-20 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Buying a new laptop

Good morning to all I am looking to purchase a new laptop
I am currently using the latest Jaws is there any suggestions or opinions on specs and what type of laptop I should purchase I’m not very knowledgeable

Thank you Kathy

in this area so that’s why I am reaching out for suggestions from others
Re: Another OE 6 question

Mike B
 


You can use either.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

Hay I am going to try oe6. I cant remember does it use pop or imap? I am having huge issues with the windows 10 mail app. Thanks, Heather  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Identities is 1 of the biggest reasons for our household to run OE6, but the fact that we're use to OE & don't want to change is another.  Having choices is very nice, & OE6 is our choice!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Most people won't know about these problems.  I am not aware of a crashing problem.  I'm not saying there may not be one, but I don't recall seeing anything about it. 

 

I am aware of DBX files becoming corrupted.  Most people who use Outlook Express probably don't know what DBX files are, let alone that they are more likely to become corrupted in the Windows 7 and higher version of the program and particularly, when you compact folders.  They probably don't save mail they want outside of the program or as an alternative, back up the DBX files regularly.  for most users, fooling around with this program isn't a good idea, in my opinion.  You should know something about the program and how to prepare for problems and you should also know that, while some, perhaps many, users have no or little problems, some people spend considerable time trying to solve problems they can't solve. 

 

Why do people on the list use the program?  I'm curious to know.  It does allow for first letter navigation among folders and if you use a lot of folders, that is an advantage.  Now, Thunderbird has an extension that allows first letter navigation.  Outlook Express may be faster opening messages compared to Thunderbird, but on a modern fast machine, I don't know if the speed difference matters.  Those who have compared may wish to comment.  Then there are identities.  Some people may consider identities important.  for the majority of people who don't use them and probably don't know what they are, this advantage is meaningless.  So, why do people use the program? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Well, I've prepared for it long before I started using OE with Windows 7 or 10.  I started saving outside of OE & backing up DBX files while using XP, & continue to do so.  OE's crashing problems have a long history, & fortunately I've never had it happen to me, but none the less, if it does  I've prepared.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:06 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

And when it doesn't, if you haven't prepared for that, you may have serious problems such as lost material.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:15 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Hi Kay,

 

I'm right behind ya!  LOL  LOL  It may be archaic, but when it works, it works!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

I currently have 87 different folders in OE and God knows how many messages save.  Several thousand for sure.  All is well and I for one don't plan on giving this program up any time soon.  Might be old, but sure is good.  Lets hear it for archaic.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt – 1884-1962, Former First Lady of the United States
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:42 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

If you save large amounts of messages in Outlook Express, corruption may result.  and, as I discuss later, corruption may result in this version of Outlook Express when you compact folders, at least based on the very little I've read about this, especially when there are a lot of messages in folders. 

 

That's one reason to stop using this archaic program.  It is more subject to corruption of message folders than other e-mail programs are.  If you don't want to loose messages, save them outside of the program.

 

You don't compact folders just because you place messages in them.  Compacting folders is done over time as you move and delete messages.  In Outlook Express, when you delete a message, it is still there, but the program doesn't have access to it.  Compacting removes the messages and makes the folders smaller.  It also moves information around so it isn't fragmented, thus saving disk space.  And when     you compact folders, especially, from the little I've read about this, using the Windows 7 and higher compatible version of Outlook Express, that may corrupt folders and it is more likely to happen with this version than with the old XP and lower version from Microsoft.  If you have no specific reason to use this program, using something else is a better option.  Why do you want to use it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:44 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Ctrl-d didn’t work either.

 

The folders may need to be compacted because I downloaded 5 months worth of messages about 2 weeks ago, but unless there’s more than one place to compact folders I did that and I still can’t delete messages.

 

Troy

 


On Feb 22, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:

It should work,  another way is to use control D.

----- Original Message -----

From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:58 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Hi all,

Okay the password problem was solved by reinstalling and checking that box, but now strangely enough when I hit delete when highlighted on a message nothing happens.  Of course that should send that message to my deleted items folder but it doesn’t.  Any ideas?  Btw this on my laptop using a USB keyboard that’s plugged into it, and this is the only thing that doesn’t work with this setup.

Troy


 
Re: Another OE 6 question

heather albright
 

Hay I am going to try oe6. I cant remember does it use pop or imap? I am having huge issues with the windows 10 mail app. Thanks, Heather  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Identities is 1 of the biggest reasons for our household to run OE6, but the fact that we're use to OE & don't want to change is another.  Having choices is very nice, & OE6 is our choice!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Most people won't know about these problems.  I am not aware of a crashing problem.  I'm not saying there may not be one, but I don't recall seeing anything about it. 

 

I am aware of DBX files becoming corrupted.  Most people who use Outlook Express probably don't know what DBX files are, let alone that they are more likely to become corrupted in the Windows 7 and higher version of the program and particularly, when you compact folders.  They probably don't save mail they want outside of the program or as an alternative, back up the DBX files regularly.  for most users, fooling around with this program isn't a good idea, in my opinion.  You should know something about the program and how to prepare for problems and you should also know that, while some, perhaps many, users have no or little problems, some people spend considerable time trying to solve problems they can't solve. 

 

Why do people on the list use the program?  I'm curious to know.  It does allow for first letter navigation among folders and if you use a lot of folders, that is an advantage.  Now, Thunderbird has an extension that allows first letter navigation.  Outlook Express may be faster opening messages compared to Thunderbird, but on a modern fast machine, I don't know if the speed difference matters.  Those who have compared may wish to comment.  Then there are identities.  Some people may consider identities important.  for the majority of people who don't use them and probably don't know what they are, this advantage is meaningless.  So, why do people use the program? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Well, I've prepared for it long before I started using OE with Windows 7 or 10.  I started saving outside of OE & backing up DBX files while using XP, & continue to do so.  OE's crashing problems have a long history, & fortunately I've never had it happen to me, but none the less, if it does  I've prepared.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:06 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

And when it doesn't, if you haven't prepared for that, you may have serious problems such as lost material.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:15 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Hi Kay,

 

I'm right behind ya!  LOL  LOL  It may be archaic, but when it works, it works!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

I currently have 87 different folders in OE and God knows how many messages save.  Several thousand for sure.  All is well and I for one don't plan on giving this program up any time soon.  Might be old, but sure is good.  Lets hear it for archaic.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt – 1884-1962, Former First Lady of the United States
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:42 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

If you save large amounts of messages in Outlook Express, corruption may result.  and, as I discuss later, corruption may result in this version of Outlook Express when you compact folders, at least based on the very little I've read about this, especially when there are a lot of messages in folders. 

 

That's one reason to stop using this archaic program.  It is more subject to corruption of message folders than other e-mail programs are.  If you don't want to loose messages, save them outside of the program.

 

You don't compact folders just because you place messages in them.  Compacting folders is done over time as you move and delete messages.  In Outlook Express, when you delete a message, it is still there, but the program doesn't have access to it.  Compacting removes the messages and makes the folders smaller.  It also moves information around so it isn't fragmented, thus saving disk space.  And when     you compact folders, especially, from the little I've read about this, using the Windows 7 and higher compatible version of Outlook Express, that may corrupt folders and it is more likely to happen with this version than with the old XP and lower version from Microsoft.  If you have no specific reason to use this program, using something else is a better option.  Why do you want to use it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:44 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Ctrl-d didn’t work either.

 

The folders may need to be compacted because I downloaded 5 months worth of messages about 2 weeks ago, but unless there’s more than one place to compact folders I did that and I still can’t delete messages.

 

Troy

 


On Feb 22, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:

It should work,  another way is to use control D.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:58 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Another OE 6 question

 

Hi all,

Okay the password problem was solved by reinstalling and checking that box, but now strangely enough when I hit delete when highlighted on a message nothing happens.  Of course that should send that message to my deleted items folder but it doesn’t.  Any ideas?  Btw this on my laptop using a USB keyboard that’s plugged into it, and this is the only thing that doesn’t work with this setup.

Troy


 
Re: Buying a new laptop

Monte Single
 

Hi Kathy,
You need to set some limits on your selection.
What are you going to use your laptop for?
Do you want to have a full keyboard with the numpad?
Most new laptops no longer come with a cd/dvd drive, does that matter?
You can spen from 300 to 3000 on a new laptop. What is your budget?
Give us some clues, than we can help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: January-28-20 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Buying a new laptop

Good morning to all I am looking to purchase a new laptop
I am currently using the latest Jaws is there any suggestions or opinions on specs and what type of laptop I should purchase I’m not very knowledgeable

Thank you Kathy

in this area so that’s why I am reaching out for suggestions from others
Re: JAWS: Space Markers in Word

Mike B
 


Whoops, sent too quick.  Forgot to add this keystroke is a tobble for showing / hiding formatting.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS: Space Markers in Word

Hi Abbie,
 
Try pressing, Alt + H, then press, 8, on the number row above the main keyboard.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS: Space Markers in Word

I'm not finding the option to remove space markers in either the home ribbon or the options. Since this doesn't happen with NVDA, I'm assuming it's a JAWS issue. But if someone knows how I can fix it in Word, I'm all ears.
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Re: MSWord lines per page

Carolyn Arnold
 

Fanus, I assume you have checked your margins, especially
the top and bottom margins?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSWord lines per page

Hello Ann
Well, I selected the text and then I pressed control-1 but
nothing is better. When I load MSWord I hear "print view
edit". Is this the correct view for creating documents?
Regards
Fanus


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:13 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSWord lines per page

Hi all,

Famus are you doublespacing? If so then you will get only 26
lines per page. Is your printer set for this?

Ann P.

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Re: JAWS: Space Markers in Word

Mike B
 


Hi Abbie,
 
Try pressing, Alt + H, then press, 8, on the number row above the main keyboard.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS: Space Markers in Word

I'm not finding the option to remove space markers in either the home ribbon or the options. Since this doesn't happen with NVDA, I'm assuming it's a JAWS issue. But if someone knows how I can fix it in Word, I'm all ears.
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 
Re: Buying a new laptop

Gene
 

How do you use your computer?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:54 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Buying a new laptop

Good morning to all I am looking to purchase a new laptop
I am currently using the latest Jaws is there any suggestions or opinions on specs and what type of laptop I should purchase I’m not   very knowledgeable

Thank you Kathy

in this area so that’s why I am reaching out for suggestions from others
Re: Buying a new laptop

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Do you have one now you are planning to replace?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: January 28, 2020 9:55
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Buying a new laptop

Good morning to all I am looking to purchase a new laptop
I am currently using the latest Jaws is there any suggestions or opinions on specs and what type of laptop I should purchase I’m not very knowledgeable

Thank you Kathy

in this area so that’s why I am reaching out for suggestions from others
Buying a new laptop

Kathy Pingstock
 

Good morning to all I am looking to purchase a new laptop
I am currently using the latest Jaws is there any suggestions or opinions on specs and what type of laptop I should purchase I’m not very knowledgeable

Thank you Kathy

in this area so that’s why I am reaching out for suggestions from others
Re: MSWord lines per page

Gene
 

I don't create documents except for my own use.  For the kinds of things I do, I use Notepad.  They are generally things like lists of links I want to keep that I don't want to bookmark such as spotify links, to use not in a browser, lists of books I might want to read, and those sorts of things.  If I want to create a word processor document, I have Wordpad, Jarte, and Word 10 starter edition, but I almost never use any of them.
 
Gene
-----  Original Message -----

From: Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSWord lines per page

Hello Gene

So, what do you use for document creation? I do not need a very feature full program but it must be able to tell when it goes to page two etc. when typing documents. I do miss Word Perfect very, very much.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 2:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSWord lines per page

 

I don't use Word but you likely have double space on.  Control 1, 1 on the main keyboard, tells Word to single space.  Control 2 tells Word to double space. 

 

If you write an essay about Mars, you are really going into space.  (grin)

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Fanus

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:31 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] MSWord lines per page

 

Hello list
I am from the old school and I loved Word Perfect in the days of MSDos. My
problem is that I have to use MSWord now and for some reason I only get 26
lines of text per page. Even if I change the font to Regular Normal and the
size to 10. With WP I was used to 54 lines of text with a top and bottom
margin of 1. Can someone please explain how to use MSWord to get more text
on a page without making the font so small that it becomes difficult to
read.
Kind regards
Fanus
Re: MSWord lines per page

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Famus, you have to select the text first. Do a ctrl-a then do your ctrl1, that's the one on the top row, not the number pad.

Ann P.

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Re: JAWS: Space Markers in Word

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

I think Gene is correct, Abbie. Try ctrl-f8.

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."
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