I had been back & forth with MWb for a long time about this window that appears.  The trouble was that only people using screen reading programs were seeing / hearing this message and sighted people didn't even know it was there.  I had a screen share with a MWB higher level person to show them / let them hear what happens and so they could actually hear what's being reported by screen reading programs.  Well this was back around version, 3.4, or so.  Anyways they did eliminate this screen in Windows 7, but never could eliminate it in Windows 10.  I quit running MWB many months ago because everytime they did an update they would screw up all the prior improvements for blind users.  I got so tired of all the hassle and having to go through all the chains of command again & again before anyone would take the problems the blind users are having Now with, MWB version, 4..., is out and when I tried it I could only take about 30 minutes of the user interface before I totally removed that major pain in the A** completely!  I could have used the Jaws touch cursor and other navigation keystrokes, but I then could by no means tell people the program is accessible for the screen reader users that don't know these keystrokes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

I'm not sure but you may have to let it be there.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.

Troy

On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:

Are you using the free or paid version?  I don't know if you can or should get rid of it if you are using the paid version, using real time protection.  If you are using the free version, set it not to run at bootup, then exit the program.  I haven't used the program for quite some time and I haven't worked with settings for even longer but someone can tell you how.  You don't have real time protection with the free program so it doesn't matter if it runs when you aren't doing a scan.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:20 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

Hi all,

Whenever windows 10 comes up after I either reboot or when I initially
boot-up in the morning I have a window on my taskbar that says malware
bytes tray application. Is there a way to get rid of that? I've had the
paid version of malware bytes for a long time but this has only started
happening with the later versions.

Thanks.

Troy

Hi,
Steve is selling it for £60 (£72 including tax). This equates to $78.21,
or $93.84.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 14/02/2020 05:01 pm, Laz wrote:

It's number 3. They don't get it at much of a discount either as I
looked into it myself. Code factory makes a profit regardless if they
sell to individuals or a distributor. One can support whomever one
wants. How much is Steve in the UK selling it for?

Laz

On 2/11/20, Damien Garwood <damien@daygar.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
There are three possibilities here:
1. ATGuys helped to produce it and that's why they are also able to sell
it at the same price. I find this unlikely, as they also have a
distributor here in the UK (just so you have all the information,
Computer Room Services also sell it).
2. ATGuys are a charity and are able to stay afloat through government
funding, grants, and/or donations. After a cursory look at the ATGuys
website, I can't see any links for donating, nor a registered charity
number. I could be wrong - they just may not have published that
information.
3. Distributors purchase reseller's licences in bulk, and thus at a
lower cost, in order to sell to customers at the same price. Either way,
they are still making a profit, without having done any of the
production work.
I've never liked the distributed sale side of things, especially for
digital products where it's easy to self-distribute (indeed, CF are
already doing it!), because in the end, either the producer or the
consumer end up losing out.
There could be something that I'm missing that would be totally obvious
to experienced entrepreneurs, but from the little experience I know
about running a business, the idea is to make a profit in what you sell.
That's why I very rarely use Amazon, EBay, and your high street shops.
The obvious exceptions, of course, are supermarkets, and a situation
whereby the manufactuare is unwilling to sell directly, in which case
you have no choice.
In any case, it's up to you where you choose to get it, I'm just stating
the general way of things when you buy from a distribution agency so you
can make an informed decision based on those factors.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 02:29 pm, Lenron wrote:

It's the same price. I would rather support atguys but that's just me.
As far as I know they both sell for 69 bucks.

On 2/11/20, Damien Garwood <damien@daygar.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
All ATGuys do is sell the CodeFactory version, likely at a profit, so
better to buy it direct from CF in my opinion.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 11:48 am, Josh Kennedy wrote:

You can also buy all eloquence synthesizers from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> and they sell vocalizer as well.

It's number 3. They don't get it at much of a discount either as I
looked into it myself. Code factory makes a profit regardless if they
sell to individuals or a distributor. One can support whomever one
wants. How much is Steve in the UK selling it for?
Laz
On 2/11/20, Damien Garwood <damien@daygar.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
There are three possibilities here:
1. ATGuys helped to produce it and that's why they are also able to sell
it at the same price. I find this unlikely, as they also have a
distributor here in the UK (just so you have all the information,
Computer Room Services also sell it).
2. ATGuys are a charity and are able to stay afloat through government
funding, grants, and/or donations. After a cursory look at the ATGuys
website, I can't see any links for donating, nor a registered charity
number. I could be wrong - they just may not have published that
information.
3. Distributors purchase reseller's licences in bulk, and thus at a
lower cost, in order to sell to customers at the same price. Either way,
they are still making a profit, without having done any of the
production work.
I've never liked the distributed sale side of things, especially for
digital products where it's easy to self-distribute (indeed, CF are
already doing it!), because in the end, either the producer or the
consumer end up losing out.
There could be something that I'm missing that would be totally obvious
to experienced entrepreneurs, but from the little experience I know
about running a business, the idea is to make a profit in what you sell.
That's why I very rarely use Amazon, EBay, and your high street shops.
The obvious exceptions, of course, are supermarkets, and a situation
whereby the manufactuare is unwilling to sell directly, in which case
you have no choice.
In any case, it's up to you where you choose to get it, I'm just stating
the general way of things when you buy from a distribution agency so you
can make an informed decision based on those factors.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 02:29 pm, Lenron wrote:

It's the same price. I would rather support atguys but that's just me.
As far as I know they both sell for 69 bucks.

On 2/11/20, Damien Garwood <damien@daygar.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
All ATGuys do is sell the CodeFactory version, likely at a profit, so
better to buy it direct from CF in my opinion.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 11:48 am, Josh Kennedy wrote:

You can also buy all eloquence synthesizers from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> and they sell vocalizer as well.

Hi,
There are three possibilities here:
1. ATGuys helped to produce it and that's why they are also able to sell
it at the same price. I find this unlikely, as they also have a
distributor here in the UK (just so you have all the information,
Computer Room Services also sell it).
2. ATGuys are a charity and are able to stay afloat through government
funding, grants, and/or donations. After a cursory look at the ATGuys
website, I can't see any links for donating, nor a registered charity
number. I could be wrong - they just may not have published that
information.
3. Distributors purchase reseller's licences in bulk, and thus at a
lower cost, in order to sell to customers at the same price. Either way,
they are still making a profit, without having done any of the
production work.
I've never liked the distributed sale side of things, especially for
digital products where it's easy to self-distribute (indeed, CF are
already doing it!), because in the end, either the producer or the
consumer end up losing out.
There could be something that I'm missing that would be totally obvious
to experienced entrepreneurs, but from the little experience I know
about running a business, the idea is to make a profit in what you sell.
That's why I very rarely use Amazon, EBay, and your high street shops.
The obvious exceptions, of course, are supermarkets, and a situation
whereby the manufactuare is unwilling to sell directly, in which case
you have no choice.
In any case, it's up to you where you choose to get it, I'm just stating
the general way of things when you buy from a distribution agency so you
can make an informed decision based on those factors.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 02:29 pm, Lenron wrote:

It's the same price. I would rather support atguys but that's just me.
As far as I know they both sell for 69 bucks.

On 2/11/20, Damien Garwood <damien@daygar.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,
All ATGuys do is sell the CodeFactory version, likely at a profit, so
better to buy it direct from CF in my opinion.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 11/02/2020 11:48 am, Josh Kennedy wrote:

You can also buy all eloquence synthesizers from www.atguys.com
<http://www.atguys.com> and they sell vocalizer as well.

How dare they deny me access to anything on my computer--which I bought with my dollars and which resides in my home among all my other belongings?

On 2/13/2020 9:59 PM, Gene wrote:

It does. And you can't open the folder because you get an access denied message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Richard <mailto:thegothot@twc.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
If you look at the system volume information properties, it will probably
report zero bytes.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

System volume information is used by system restore. You may have to tell
Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the
drive. If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may
tell you.

If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties
for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used
space when nothing else is on the drive. System Volume information can't be
looked at for size using drive properties.

It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space
that isn't enough to matter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@gmail.com <mailto:htraxler7@gmail.com>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be
done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like
all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>> On Behalf Of
Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard

It does.  And you can't open the folder because you get an access denied message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:05 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

If you look at the system volume information properties, it will probably
report zero bytes.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


System volume information is used by system restore.  You may have to tell
Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the
drive.  If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may
tell you.

If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties
for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used
space when nothing else is on the drive.  System Volume information can't be
looked at for size using drive properties.

It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space
that isn't enough to matter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, I'm just guessing here.  Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
> format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library.  And, that should not be
> done because it isn't your personal property.
>
> However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase.  And, like
> all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Howard Traxler
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>
> Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
> the stuff on it.  And there are certain folders that windows won't
> delete; "System Volume Information" for example.  I don't know what
> that's even for anyway.  Just something to waste space.
>
> Howard
>
> On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
>> Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge.  But if you
>> really do, it should be phat 32.  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
>> To: TechTalk
>> Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer.  It offers
>> four different types of format.  I'm wondering which one I should choose?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard

Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard