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Re: NLS cartrage
Howard Traxler
How dare they deny me access to anything on my computer--which I
bought with my dollars and which resides in my home among all my
other belongings?
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Re: MS Office 2016
chris judge
Jaws will for sure. I can't speak for NVDA.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sent: February 14, 2020 12:24 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] MS Office 2016 Hello, I have such a small Need for Microsoft Word, that I don't have it installed on any of my Systems. Instead I use Jarte, and for my needs, it works great. It is Small, Quick, Simple, and works well with either of my Screen Readers. However, there are times when I need to send a file to someone using a Microsoft Format, either MS Word 2013 or newer. For the price of $36 down to $24 for Office Pro 2016, this deal is hard to resist. Guess my question is this, How Accessible is Office 2016? I use the Spell Checker, and need to change Fonts and Font Sizes. Need to do Underlining and some Outlining. I also need to read large Documents of more than 100 pages. I assume that Jaws 2019, and the latest NVDA Screen Readers will read enough in Word 2016 to do those items I listed above. But, I thought I would ask here first, since these days, very little should be Assumed. Oh, and if it matters, I am running everything on a Win 10 Pro System, with an I7 Chip and loads of Memory. Isn't there a Newer version of MS Word? 2018, 19 or 20? But, for $36 to $24, This deal is a temptation. I would Love to hear from users of Office 2016 and hear how well it works with Screen Readers. Thanks for any reply, Grumpy Dave
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Re: MS Office 2016
Smiling?
It so far anyway, works exceptionally well in fact, better than Office2010 did. Using JAWS2020.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:24 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] MS Office 2016 Hello, I have such a small Need for Microsoft Word, that I don't have it installed on any of my Systems. Instead I use Jarte, and for my needs, it works great. It is Small, Quick, Simple, and works well with either of my Screen Readers. However, there are times when I need to send a file to someone using a Microsoft Format, either MS Word 2013 or newer. For the price of $36 down to $24 for Office Pro 2016, this deal is hard to resist. Guess my question is this, How Accessible is Office 2016? I use the Spell Checker, and need to change Fonts and Font Sizes. Need to do Underlining and some Outlining. I also need to read large Documents of more than 100 pages. I assume that Jaws 2019, and the latest NVDA Screen Readers will read enough in Word 2016 to do those items I listed above. But, I thought I would ask here first, since these days, very little should be Assumed. Oh, and if it matters, I am running everything on a Win 10 Pro System, with an I7 Chip and loads of Memory. Isn't there a Newer version of MS Word? 2018, 19 or 20? But, for $36 to $24, This deal is a temptation. I would Love to hear from users of Office 2016 and hear how well it works with Screen Readers. Thanks for any reply, Grumpy Dave
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Re: NLS cartrage
Smiling?
FAT32, but if this is truly a NLS cartridge flash drive, you will not at all need to format it simply due to the fact that it's smaller than anything larger than 32GB which will be already formatted as FAT32.
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If you are wanting to format this drive just to wipe it clean then as already mentioned, FAT32.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:27 AM To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Hi all, I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose? Thanks. Howard
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Re: NLS cartrage
Pamela Dominguez
Okay sure, that makes sense. I have never bought them used from somebody. Mine were all brand new. Pam.
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From: Howard Traxler Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it. Howard On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote: Hi,
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Re: NLS cartrage
Pamela Dominguez
No; I was thinking that he wanted to format a brand new cartridge he just bought, actually. Pam.
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From: James Bentley Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:23 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Hi, OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be done because it isn't your personal property. However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted. Cheers, James B -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space. Howard On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
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Re: malware bytes tray application
Holly
Heather:
I am running Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.
You can not use this system with the paid version, as it
is always running in the background and that is what you want it to do, so it
can detect threats in real time.
It does work for the free version though because you scan
manually.
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Re: malware bytes tray application
heather albright
Was just thinking, wonder if you can go in to the windows notifications area and silence this from happening. Or if there is an object level you can change so jaws or nvda will not keep announcing it. I do not have the paid version to see though! Heather
From: Holly
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:29 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application
Heather:
I have the free version also, and kept getting this message all the time too. Very annoying.
I found that after you run a scan, with the free version, you can go into the system tray, enter on Malware Bites and arrow down to the ‘quit Malware Bites’ option and enter on it. This will remove it from the system tray temporarily and the announcement will not come up again until you run another scan.
You will have to go through these steps after every time you run a scan manually.
I only run a scan about once a week, so not a big deal to go into the system tray and do this.
I don’t think it would work with the paid version, as it is always running with real time protection.
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Re: malware bytes tray application
heather albright
Ah that is what I do for now. Is it different with the paid version? I find jaws works better at dismissing this window too! I am running windows 10 1909. Cheers Heather
From: Holly
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:29 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application
Heather:
I have the free version also, and kept getting this message all the time too. Very annoying.
I found that after you run a scan, with the free version, you can go into the system tray, enter on Malware Bites and arrow down to the ‘quit Malware Bites’ option and enter on it. This will remove it from the system tray temporarily and the announcement will not come up again until you run another scan.
You will have to go through these steps after every time you run a scan manually.
I only run a scan about once a week, so not a big deal to go into the system tray and do this.
I don’t think it would work with the paid version, as it is always running with real time protection.
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Re: malware bytes tray application
Holly
Heather:
I have the free version also, and kept getting this message
all the time too. Very annoying.
I found that after you run a scan, with the free version, you
can go into the system tray, enter on Malware Bites and arrow down to the ‘quit
Malware Bites’ option and enter on it. This will remove it from the system
tray temporarily and the announcement will not come up again until you run
another scan.
You will have to go through these steps after every time you
run a scan manually.
I only run a scan about once a week, so not a big deal to go
into the system tray and do this.
I don’t think it would work with the paid version, as it is
always running with real time protection.
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Re: MS Office 2016
heather albright
Yes I have 2016 and it works very well with jaws. I thought there was a training tutorial with jaws that one can get, cant say for sure. Heather
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:58 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MS Office 2016
Office 2016 works fine with NVDA at least (and in fairness, I'd assume it should work fine with Jaws also). If you do get tempted to go further into using advanced features of Word, we have a training module on Microsoft Word with NVDA: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/ It's only $30 Australian, which still should just come in under your $24 cost of Office itself :)
There is a newer version of Office, Office 2019, which like Office 2016, is a standalone, one-off purchase. Otherwise the newest version of Office which is constantly updated, is Office 365, which is a yearly or monthly subscription.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:24 PM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: malware bytes tray application
heather albright
Do you know of a key stroke to get rid of this? I have jaws and nvda, mainly a jaws user. I only have the free version as my copy expired. Thanks, Heather
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:05 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application
I had been back & forth with MWb for a long time about this window that appears. The trouble was that only people using screen reading programs were seeing / hearing this message and sighted people didn't even know it was there. I had a screen share with a MWB higher level person to show them / let them hear what happens and so they could actually hear what's being reported by screen reading programs. Well this was back around version, 3.4, or so. Anyways they did eliminate this screen in Windows 7, but never could eliminate it in Windows 10. I quit running MWB many months ago because everytime they did an update they would screw up all the prior improvements for blind users. I got so tired of all the hassle and having to go through all the chains of command again & again before anyone would take the problems the blind users are having Now with, MWB version, 4..., is out and when I tried it I could only take about 30 minutes of the user interface before I totally removed that major pain in the A** completely! I could have used the Jaws touch cursor and other navigation keystrokes, but I then could by no means tell people the program is accessible for the screen reader users that don't know these keystrokes.
----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application
I'm not sure but you may have to let it be there.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Burnham Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application
I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it. On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: malware bytes tray application
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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I had been back & forth with MWb for a long
time about this window that appears. The trouble was that only people
using screen reading programs were seeing / hearing this message and sighted
people didn't even know it was there. I had a screen share with a MWB
higher level person to show them / let them hear what happens and so they could
actually hear what's being reported by screen reading programs. Well this
was back around version, 3.4, or so. Anyways they did eliminate this
screen in Windows 7, but never could eliminate it in Windows 10. I quit
running MWB many months ago because everytime they did an update they would
screw up all the prior improvements for blind users. I got so tired of all
the hassle and having to go through all the chains of command again & again
before anyone would take the problems the blind users are having Now with, MWB
version, 4..., is out and when I tried it I could only take about 30 minutes of
the user interface before I totally removed that major pain in the A**
completely! I could have used the Jaws touch cursor and other navigation
keystrokes, but I then could by no means tell people the program is accessible
for the screen reader users that don't know these keystrokes.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application I'm not sure but you may have to let it be
there.
Gene
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From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray
application Troy On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: MS Office 2016
Quentin Christensen
Office 2016 works fine with NVDA at least (and in fairness, I'd assume it should work fine with Jaws also). If you do get tempted to go further into using advanced features of Word, we have a training module on Microsoft Word with NVDA:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/ It's only $30 Australian, which still should just come in under your $24 cost of Office itself :) There is a newer version of Office, Office 2019, which like Office 2016, is a standalone, one-off purchase. Otherwise the newest version of Office which is constantly updated, is Office 365, which is a yearly or monthly subscription. Kind regards Quentin.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:24 PM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote: Hello, --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/ Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: 6 dot braille label maker
jan howells <gale7978@...>
Can the ADA assist with getting a hard braille copy of a manual?
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Re: malware bytes tray application
Gene
I'm not sure but you may have to let it be
there.
Gene
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From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray
application Troy On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
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MS Office 2016
Dave
Hello,
I have such a small Need for Microsoft Word, that I don't have it installed on any of my Systems. Instead I use Jarte, and for my needs, it works great. It is Small, Quick, Simple, and works well with either of my Screen Readers. However, there are times when I need to send a file to someone using a Microsoft Format, either MS Word 2013 or newer. For the price of $36 down to $24 for Office Pro 2016, this deal is hard to resist. Guess my question is this, How Accessible is Office 2016? I use the Spell Checker, and need to change Fonts and Font Sizes. Need to do Underlining and some Outlining. I also need to read large Documents of more than 100 pages. I assume that Jaws 2019, and the latest NVDA Screen Readers will read enough in Word 2016 to do those items I listed above. But, I thought I would ask here first, since these days, very little should be Assumed. Oh, and if it matters, I am running everything on a Win 10 Pro System, with an I7 Chip and loads of Memory. Isn't there a Newer version of MS Word? 2018, 19 or 20? But, for $36 to $24, This deal is a temptation. I would Love to hear from users of Office 2016 and hear how well it works with Screen Readers. Thanks for any reply, Grumpy Dave
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Re: NLS cartrage
Gene
That isn't what System Volume information is
or does. As I said, it is used by System Restore. It is what System
Restore uses. It does some other things I didn't know about such as
keeping information if you run the file indexing service. See this
article:
Gene
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System Volume Information tells the computer how much of the cartridge has been used and is worth having if you try to put too much stuff on the cartridge. You could do worse than to google filedir and download a copy. You might find it useful. I just tried that, and I couldn't find it, but I do have a dropbox link for you. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwdh9hdyctj50rk/dirsetup.exe?dl=1 HTH, Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@... Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: malware bytes tray application
Troy Burnham
I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can
do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a
way to get rid of it.
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Troy
On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: NLS cartrage
Gene
It does. And you can't open the folder
because you get an access denied message.
Gene
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report zero bytes. HTH, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage System volume information is used by system restore. You may have to tell Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the drive. If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may tell you. If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used space when nothing else is on the drive. System Volume information can't be looked at for size using drive properties. It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space that isn't enough to matter. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Hi Howard, Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden, for identification by the operating system. The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about. HTH, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it. Howard On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote: > Hi, > > OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to > format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be > done because it isn't your personal property. > > However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like > all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted. > > Cheers, > > James B > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of > Howard Traxler > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage > > Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all > the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't > delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what > that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space. > > Howard > > On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: >> Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you >> really do, it should be phat 32. Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler >> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM >> To: TechTalk >> Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage >> >> Hi all, >> I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers >> four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose? >> >> Thanks. >> Howard >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
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