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Dear Friends, How do I shut Paragraph Marking off in my Word 2007 using JAWS 13

Alan
 

Dear Friends, How do I shut Paragraph Marking off in my Word 2007
Somehow it got turned on, must have drop my headphones on the keyboard again or something, and it is driving me crazy hearing it with my JAWS 13 all the time.
Thanking you in advance.
With best regards.
God Bless.
Alan
Plantation, Sunny South Florida
Re: Thunderbird list?

Gerald Levy
 

Unfortunately, the owner/moderator of the Thunderbird list is a guy named Marcio who seems to have vanished into the ether.  He has not posted on the Thunderbird or any other lists for months, so there is no way for a new member to the TB list to get his first message approved.  To my knowledge, nobody else has taken over running this list.  It is possible thatMarcio is experiencing personal or technical issues that prevent him from moderating the TB list.


Gerald

On 3/4/2020 12:15 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
The list is active, just slow right now. Sorry I can't provide owner address but hopefully someone will post it. I'm so new I don't even have any messages saved yet. HTH Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lynette
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunderbird list?

I can not get any message I send show up in the TB list and never get an answer? Is the list even active?
Re: Thunderbird list?

Norma A. Boge
 

The list is active, just slow right now. Sorry I can't provide owner address but hopefully someone will post it. I'm so new I don't even have any messages saved yet. HTH Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lynette
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunderbird list?

I can not get any message I send show up in the TB list and never get an answer? Is the list even active?
This week on Eyes On Success: Android Accessibility Then and Now

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of eyes On Success is:

2010 Android Accessibility Then and Now (Mar. 4, 2020)
Show Notes
A lot has changed over the years in the Android world, especially in terms of accessibility features that are available for the visually impaired and how well these features perform. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey once again talk with Ana Garza who gives us an update on the accessibility of Android devices and why you might consider using them.

As usual, the audio, show notes, and much more can be found at:

www.EyesOnSuccess.net

 

If you don’t want to miss an episode subscribe to the podcast with Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.  You can also now listen to the show on your Amazon or google smart home device by saying “play eyes On Success podcast”.

 

Enjoy!

 

Check out Eyes On Success (formerly ViewPoints)

A weekly, half hour audio program for people living with vision loss.

Find out more about the show and get links to past episodes at:

       www.EyesOnSuccess.net

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       www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_podcast

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Thunderbird list?

Lynette
 

I can not get any message I send show up in the TB list and never get an answer? Is the list even active?
TB both trash and deleted

Lynette
 

Why do I have some messages going into the trash folder and others going into the deleted folder?

Thanks
Re: chrome

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks all
will try full version and portable
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

Also, I think it is better to use Firefox Portable.  If there are any problems such as corruption of the program or you lose your profile, you don't have to waste any time trouble shooting or repairing the program.  Simply copy the portable version to another location as a backup.  Delete and copy the program to the backup location as things change so it will be current.  if you ad some book marks, update the backup.  After a new version is installed to update the program, copy it to the backup location. then, if anything goes wrong with the program you use, delete the folder and copy the portable backup folder to the location of the program you use and you will have to do nothing else.  the portable version does everything the installed version does and I think Firefox should actually get rid of their installed version and make the portable version available as the program.  I see no advantage and clear disadvantages in using the installed program.  
 
also, if you get a new computer, you can simply copy the portable version to the new computer.  No copying cookies to the installed version on a new machine, no loss of history, which means no loss of visited links, you will have everything you have on the old machine, except that I'm not sure if every add-on and plugin is copied, but they may all be.. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I am not sure what you mean by the accessibility changed.  there were problems such as slow performance when the new quantum versions of Firefox started to be released perhaps a year ago.  but that has been greatly improved now.  I don't know if there are any problems or inconveniences now. but the program was accessible continually.  Try the current version if you want to see what you think of it.  It is a very bad idea to run old versions of browsers. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

cool
i use to use firefox, but the accessibility changed,
hensed the reason i changed to chrome
do u have an accessible ff?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.
 
As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.
 
You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: Chirp Books?

Stan Bobbitt
 

Thanks a lot. I’m going to go grab me a couple 3 books then LOL.

StanB

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chirp Books?

 

Hi Stan,

 

I purchased a book from Chirp, downloaded it to my Android and it plays perfectly well and sounds great. Prices are great and the Chirp Android app is accessible with TalkBack.

 

HTH,

Norma

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:45 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Chirp Books?

 

Hi, anyone heard of this? It looks to be legit. They list some great titles and super prices. I haven’t bought anything there yet … I’m sorely tempted.

https://www.chirpbooks.com/

 

StanB

“The man who asks a question may be a fool for a minute but the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”

 
Re: Chirp Books?

Stan Bobbitt
 

Okies thanks for the info. Yeah I do the same thing with Audible and Goodreads. I’ve found some very recent books available at NLS.

 

StanB

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chirp Books?

 

Stan:

 

Yes, Chirp is a great site for inexpensive books.

 

I just got on their email list, so they send a book suggestion every day with a good book deal.

 

I like to see what good books are offered, then go to the NLS site and see if they are available for free download.
Re: chrome

David Moore
 

I use the Firefox portable myself, and love it!

That is what I think as well!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Also, I think it is better to use Firefox Portable.  If there are any problems such as corruption of the program or you lose your profile, you don't have to waste any time trouble shooting or repairing the program.  Simply copy the portable version to another location as a backup.  Delete and copy the program to the backup location as things change so it will be current.  if you ad some book marks, update the backup.  After a new version is installed to update the program, copy it to the backup location. then, if anything goes wrong with the program you use, delete the folder and copy the portable backup folder to the location of the program you use and you will have to do nothing else.  the portable version does everything the installed version does and I think Firefox should actually get rid of their installed version and make the portable version available as the program.  I see no advantage and clear disadvantages in using the installed program.  

 

also, if you get a new computer, you can simply copy the portable version to the new computer.  No copying cookies to the installed version on a new machine, no loss of history, which means no loss of visited links, you will have everything you have on the old machine, except that I'm not sure if every add-on and plugin is copied, but they may all be.. 

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 8:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I am not sure what you mean by the accessibility changed.  there were problems such as slow performance when the new quantum versions of Firefox started to be released perhaps a year ago.  but that has been greatly improved now.  I don't know if there are any problems or inconveniences now. but the program was accessible continually.  Try the current version if you want to see what you think of it.  It is a very bad idea to run old versions of browsers. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

cool

i use to use firefox, but the accessibility changed,

hensed the reason i changed to chrome

do u have an accessible ff?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.

 

As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.

 

You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

to you and jene

 

i tried i e and it actually worked

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 

 
Re: chrome

Gene
 

Also, I think it is better to use Firefox Portable.  If there are any problems such as corruption of the program or you lose your profile, you don't have to waste any time trouble shooting or repairing the program.  Simply copy the portable version to another location as a backup.  Delete and copy the program to the backup location as things change so it will be current.  if you ad some book marks, update the backup.  After a new version is installed to update the program, copy it to the backup location. then, if anything goes wrong with the program you use, delete the folder and copy the portable backup folder to the location of the program you use and you will have to do nothing else.  the portable version does everything the installed version does and I think Firefox should actually get rid of their installed version and make the portable version available as the program.  I see no advantage and clear disadvantages in using the installed program.  
 
also, if you get a new computer, you can simply copy the portable version to the new computer.  No copying cookies to the installed version on a new machine, no loss of history, which means no loss of visited links, you will have everything you have on the old machine, except that I'm not sure if every add-on and plugin is copied, but they may all be.. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I am not sure what you mean by the accessibility changed.  there were problems such as slow performance when the new quantum versions of Firefox started to be released perhaps a year ago.  but that has been greatly improved now.  I don't know if there are any problems or inconveniences now. but the program was accessible continually.  Try the current version if you want to see what you think of it.  It is a very bad idea to run old versions of browsers. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

cool
i use to use firefox, but the accessibility changed,
hensed the reason i changed to chrome
do u have an accessible ff?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.
 
As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.
 
You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: chrome

Gene
 

I am not sure what you mean by the accessibility changed.  there were problems such as slow performance when the new quantum versions of Firefox started to be released perhaps a year ago.  but that has been greatly improved now.  I don't know if there are any problems or inconveniences now. but the program was accessible continually.  Try the current version if you want to see what you think of it.  It is a very bad idea to run old versions of browsers. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

cool
i use to use firefox, but the accessibility changed,
hensed the reason i changed to chrome
do u have an accessible ff?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.
 
As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.
 
You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: chrome

Kerryn Gunness
 

cool
i use to use firefox, but the accessibility changed,
hensed the reason i changed to chrome
do u have an accessible ff?
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.
 
As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.
 
You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: accessible tor version?

Mich Verrier
 

Hi I am not shure about this web browser how ever I thought that the tor web browser was the browser that you were able to use if you wanted to access the dark web? I thought or was under the impression that that was not accessible using jaws or other adaptive tech. from Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: March 2, 2020 7:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible tor version?

Hi David,

I believe there is a way using the configuration editor. I thought I
had an e-mail saved that describes how to do it. I can't find it. Maybe
someone else will have the information.


On 3/2/2020 5:50 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello Gene,

I'd say your assessment is right on. I believe I'm seeing the disable
accessibility in play. I've tried two screen readers and neither can
see the menus. Is there another way I can get at this setting perhaps
a commandline option to temporarily give me accessibility support then
while in that session turning the setting permanently correct? Or
another way?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 3/2/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know if the browser will work properly when this change is made, but
it is based on the Firefox browser and that browser has a setting to disable
accessibility. I thought this setting was off and that the current version
of Tor is accessible. I remember reading that awhile ago. If that isn't
the case and accessibility is disabled, you may need sighted help to change
the setting so your screen-reader can receive information from the browser.

You can try changing this setting and see if the browser works well. I
don't know how the Tor developers may have changed the browser compared to
firefox and if it will work well after this change. I am assuming that at
present, you get no information from the browser. I don't even think you
can see the menus. Let me know if things are different from what I
describe. If they are, that may indicate another problem, and others may be
able to address it with more information.

As I recall, the accessibility setting is somewhere in options.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Mehler
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 1:14 PM
To: techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] accessible tor version?


Hello,

I'm using jfw 2019 and NVDA 2019 as screen readers. I'm needing to use
tor. It does not look like the current version nor the previous one
which I have as 7.5.4 is accessible anymore. Is there an accessible
version or a fix?

Thanks.
Dave.






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: chrome

Gene
 

I don't know why you are having the problem with Chrome.  You may want to use Internet Explorer to download and Chrome for everything else.
 
As time passes, you may want or need to use Firefox for downloading and Chrome for everything else.  Over time, you will slowly be able to use Internet Explorer on fewer and fewer sites.  It is an archaic browser and as sites change technologically, slowly, increasing numbers won't work.
 
You will have little to learn to use Firefox. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: accessible tor version?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi David,

Great, I'll have to try this for laughs and giggles.

On 3/2/2020 6:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Got it fixed. I searched and found a bug accessibility thread in tor.
After reading all of it's posts they seem to be recommending updating
to tor v8.55. The version I had installed was 7.5, and it only updated
to 8.3. So I went to the torproject web page and found that version as
9.5. Downloaded it, installed, and it is working great!

Thanks.
Dave.


On 3/2/20, David Mehler via Groups.Io <dave.mehler=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Gene,

I'd say your assessment is right on. I believe I'm seeing the disable
accessibility in play. I've tried two screen readers and neither can
see the menus. Is there another way I can get at this setting perhaps
a commandline option to temporarily give me accessibility support then
while in that session turning the setting permanently correct? Or
another way?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 3/2/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know if the browser will work properly when this change is made,
but
it is based on the Firefox browser and that browser has a setting to
disable
accessibility. I thought this setting was off and that the current
version
of Tor is accessible. I remember reading that awhile ago. If that isn't
the case and accessibility is disabled, you may need sighted help to
change
the setting so your screen-reader can receive information from the
browser.

You can try changing this setting and see if the browser works well. I
don't know how the Tor developers may have changed the browser compared
to
firefox and if it will work well after this change. I am assuming that
at
present, you get no information from the browser. I don't even think you
can see the menus. Let me know if things are different from what I
describe. If they are, that may indicate another problem, and others may
be
able to address it with more information.

As I recall, the accessibility setting is somewhere in options.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Mehler
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 1:14 PM
To: techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] accessible tor version?


Hello,

I'm using jfw 2019 and NVDA 2019 as screen readers. I'm needing to use
tor. It does not look like the current version nor the previous one
which I have as 7.5.4 is accessible anymore. Is there an accessible
version or a fix?

Thanks.
Dave.






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: accessible tor version?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi David,

I believe there is a way using the configuration editor.  I thought I had an e-mail saved that describes how to do it. I can't find it. Maybe someone else will have the information.

On 3/2/2020 5:50 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello Gene,

I'd say your assessment is right on. I believe I'm seeing the disable
accessibility in play. I've tried two screen readers and neither can
see the menus. Is there another way I can get at this setting perhaps
a commandline option to temporarily give me accessibility support then
while in that session turning the setting permanently correct? Or
another way?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 3/2/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know if the browser will work properly when this change is made, but
it is based on the Firefox browser and that browser has a setting to disable
accessibility. I thought this setting was off and that the current version
of Tor is accessible. I remember reading that awhile ago. If that isn't
the case and accessibility is disabled, you may need sighted help to change
the setting so your screen-reader can receive information from the browser.

You can try changing this setting and see if the browser works well. I
don't know how the Tor developers may have changed the browser compared to
firefox and if it will work well after this change. I am assuming that at
present, you get no information from the browser. I don't even think you
can see the menus. Let me know if things are different from what I
describe. If they are, that may indicate another problem, and others may be
able to address it with more information.

As I recall, the accessibility setting is somewhere in options.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Mehler
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 1:14 PM
To: techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] accessible tor version?


Hello,

I'm using jfw 2019 and NVDA 2019 as screen readers. I'm needing to use
tor. It does not look like the current version nor the previous one
which I have as 7.5.4 is accessible anymore. Is there an accessible
version or a fix?

Thanks.
Dave.





--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: chrome

Kerryn Gunness
 

to you and jene
 
i tried i e and it actually worked
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: chrome

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

It sounds like your internet connection is fluctuating.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

i only use chrome

oh ok?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

so what happens

when it works, the download will complete successfully

when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes

etc

then it does not work

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

dont no

as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

 

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
Re: chrome

Kerryn Gunness
 

i have explorer, i can set it up and try
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

Do you know how to download with Internet Explorer?  It makes it much more difficult to test the problem if you limit yourself to only one browser. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

i only use chrome
oh ok?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

I'm not sure.  Where do you see such wide fluctuations as five minutes and two days.  The only place I see something like that is when uploading, not downloading, to Dropbox.  What happens when you use other browsers?  Perhaps the download is timing out because of a network problem.  it may be so slow for so long that it simply stops as a timeout.  You may be able to verify that by checking the download history, which I'll discuss later if necessary.  But first, what happens with other browsers?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

so what happens
when it works, the download will complete successfully
when it does not work, i normally hear 5 minutes remaining or then it goes to 2 days remainding then 10 minutes
etc
then it does not work
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

But what actually happens or doesn't happen?  When downloading doesn't work, is there an error message?  Does any sort of dialog open? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

dont no
as i said sometimes it work well in downloading and other times it dont work
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome

Is Chrome trying to block you?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 3:39 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Cc: bhp@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome

 

hi all

 

i use chrome on windows 10

from time to time i have problems downloading, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

 

what could be causing this

thanks

 
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