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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Gene
 

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user would want them.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail. Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie


power setting question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
On the topic of power settings, can someone please tell me where to go to find
the power settings for my laptop? I'm asking because on my old laptop when I
pressed and held the power button that resulted in a hard shut down, but when I
do it on my new computer nothing happens. Is this something that can be changed
in the power settings? If not then where and how do I change it? Well I don't
need to do a hard shut down very often there have been times where my computer
freezes and/or Jaws stops talking and the only way to get it going again is to
shut it down which I obviously can't do without speech so I have to get someone
to shut it down for me which is annoying. Doing a hard shut down is a way for me
to fix it myself. Sorry for the long message, hope someone can help!! Thanks
Madison


Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Mike B
 

Hi Marie,
 
This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email groups, .  It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect this would happen after a certain number of emails per month.  Well whatever the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.  Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?
 
Marie


Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Gene
 

If you have a mechanical drive, you should put the computer in stand by or hibernate or have it off before carrying it. While it may be unlikely, unexpected fast movements or jolts could damage the hard drive. I never move my computer unless it is in sleep mode, off, or in hibernation.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

It's been so long now that I forget what the other settings were when
closing the lid on my Dell laptop. But I set mine to do nothing because
there are times when I want to carry the computer from one place to
another, and I don't want to be doing that while the lid is open. So I
close the lid, pick it up, carry it outside, for example, then open it
up and get back to whatever I was doing.

It isn't closed for more than a couple minutes.

Evan


On 8/10/2020 4:50 PM, lynn white wrote:
I did some looking around in power settings, I looked at what happens when closing the lid. My setting shows that the computer will shut down. These settings can be changed.

So, if you have a similar setting, it will be fine to shut the machine's lid and expect it to shut down. Hope this helps.

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed. You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy










Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Gene
 

Unless you have a lot of dust floating near the computer or hair landing on it, I doubt it matters. And if the computer is warmer with the lid closed and the fan runs more, drawing more air through the computer, how do we know that won't deposit more dust or hair in it than just leaving the lid up during use?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 4:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

The reason I also have thought of closing my laptop's lid, is to keep it free from dust and fur that inevitably is floating around in the air.

Although, I try to keep a clean home, with both liking to have my porch door open and having a constantly shedding guide dog, this is not totally possible.

Vicky V

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 4:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hey Troy,

Before doing that, check your power settings first. You'll be glad that you did.

On 8/10/2020 3:47 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person
who told me they do this does it.

Troy



On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a
hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a
computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can
generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up
that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action
is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or
sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.
You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case
the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by
default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good
idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person
want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because
someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing
doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even
when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though
because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just
closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out
and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I
could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a
desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the
motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but
if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm
using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy













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Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Evan Reese
 

It's been so long now that I forget what the other settings were when closing the lid on my Dell laptop. But I set mine to do nothing because there are times when I want to carry the computer from one place to another, and I don't want to be doing that while the lid is open. So I close the lid, pick it up, carry it outside, for example, then open it up and get back to whatever I was doing.

It isn't closed for more than a couple minutes.

Evan

On 8/10/2020 4:50 PM, lynn white wrote:
I did some looking around in power settings, I looked at what happens when closing the lid. My setting shows that the computer will shut down. These settings can be changed.

So, if you have a similar setting, it will be fine to shut the machine's lid and expect it to shut down. Hope this helps.

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid.  That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way.  How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize.  But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.  You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down.  And why did the person want to do so in the first place?  I see no benefit.  Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy









Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Vicky Vaughan
 

The reason I also have thought of closing my laptop's lid, is to keep it free from dust and fur that inevitably is floating around in the air.

Although, I try to keep a clean home, with both liking to have my porch door open and having a constantly shedding guide dog, this is not totally possible.

Vicky V

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 4:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hey Troy,

Before doing that, check your power settings first. You'll be glad that you did.

On 8/10/2020 3:47 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person
who told me they do this does it.

Troy



On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a
hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a
computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can
generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up
that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action
is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or
sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.
You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case
the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by
default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good
idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person
want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because
someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing
doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even
when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though
because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just
closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out
and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I
could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a
desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the
motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but
if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm
using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy













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Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

lynn white
 

Hey Troy,

Before doing that, check your power settings first. You'll be glad that you did.

On 8/10/2020 3:47 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person who told me they do this does it.

Troy



On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid.  That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way.  How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize.  But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.  You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down.  And why did the person want to do so in the first place?  I see no benefit.  Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy









Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

lynn white
 

I did some looking around in power settings, I looked at what happens when closing the lid. My setting shows that the computer will shut down. These settings can be changed.

So, if you have a similar setting, it will be fine to shut the machine's lid and expect it to shut down. Hope this helps.

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid.  That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way.  How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize.  But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.  You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down.  And why did the person want to do so in the first place?  I see no benefit.  Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy







Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Troy Burnham
 

Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person who told me they do this does it.

Troy

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:
For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid.  That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way.  How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize.  But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.  You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down.  And why did the person want to do so in the first place?  I see no benefit.  Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy







Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

lynn white
 

I've done that before. But generally, I shut it down first. But these days, if you close the lid it will shut down and you restart it when raising the lid or hit the button to restart.

On 8/10/2020 3:23 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy




Re: closing laptop's lid while using?

Gene
 

For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed. You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy


Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

What exactly is the issue? Are you not able to receive are you not able to send what's the deal?
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie


Groups.io and Charter Email

Marie
 

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?
 
Marie


closing laptop's lid while using?

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy


Re: Spotify

Sugar Lopez
 

I love it but I use it on my Iphone

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

🙏, 😘

I appreciate your friendship/support at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

-Sugar

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 11:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spotify

 

The few times I’ve used it on my PC (via the browser and not the Win 10 app), it’s been fine. I’m almost exclusively an iPhone user for this service though.

 

say

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spotify

 

How well does this application work with jaws

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: Spotify

Gene
 

I haven't used it with JAWS but it works well when I use NVDA with a browser. But in terms of using the actual desktop application, I can't comment on that. And I don't know how accessible a lot of features are either when using the browser or the application. I use it in a way people generally don't, for listening to albums or specific songs or already created playlists. I haven't used it much for quite a while, either. I don't use the social media aspects nor do I create playlists.

It appears to me, however, that a serious drawback to using a browser is the inability to move back and forward within a playing track. I can move forward from track to track but not back. I tried to find short cut keys to be used with the browser interface for these ;purposes, but I found none. I saw one message in a discussion that said that you can't do these things using the desktop application. I don't know if that is true.

While I don't know this, I suspect you will be more satisfied with the computer application if it is accessible. It has commands to do the kinds of things I've been discussing.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spotify



The few times I’ve used it on my PC (via the browser and not the Win 10 app), it’s been fine. I’m almost exclusively an iPhone user for this service though.



say





Cristóbal







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spotify





How well does this application work with jaws

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: Spotify

Cristóbal
 

The few times I’ve used it on my PC (via the browser and not the Win 10 app), it’s been fine. I’m almost exclusively an iPhone user for this service though.

 

say

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Spotify

 

How well does this application work with jaws

Thanks,

Jeff


Spotify

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

How well does this application work with jaws

Thanks,

Jeff


Re: 3d printing

heather albright
 


AN interesting article. Thanks Heather

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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 3d printing

I don't have an answer Heather, but I wonder if there are at least several factors involved:

1) Complexity: A Braille display has a lot of moving parts - each Braille cell needs six (often 8) moving individual pins, plus the frame, plus whatever holds them plus the circuitry to run it.  So even a 14 cell Braille display would need 112 pieces printed individually just for the pins.  You could probably setup and print a "Sheet" of them that you then snap off, much like the little plastic pieces you get in a model kit, but even so, putting them together is going to be fiddly.

Assuming you overcome that, you also need someone to make those models in the first place.  For many companies, by the time they have invested the R&D into that, they're probably going to think it is more worth their while simply employing a factory to make the units, and sell them with such a markup that they recoup their costs.  If they distributed 3D files for you to print yourself, A) they'd need to sell a lot to cover the cost, b) Who would be responsible for faults? and c) Unless they made them very cheap (see point a)) they'd likely find the files were readily pirated and shared between people, with no revenue then going back to them.

That's all pure speculation off the top of my head, I really haven't looked into it.  I expect the complexity would be a big issue.  A 3d Printed Braille stylus I expect wouldn't be that hard to make (if someone hasn't already) as would be something like a signature guide. But many of the 3d models I've seen, particularly at the consumer end of the scale, tend to be things which can be printed in one or at least a small number of pieces.

But I am definitely surprised there doesn't seem to be more out there.

Actually just looking, here is an article from 2016 on a 3d printed refreshable Braille display which aimed to be a low cost device: https://www.3ders.org/articles/20160508-low-cost-3d-printed-braille-reader-aims-to-increase-literacy-rates-for-the-blind.html

There might be more out there!

Quentin.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:57 AM heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
I was thinking now, we can just 3d print our parts  to make our braille displays so they would be cheaper; the embossers would be cheaper; electric braille labeler makers would be cheaper etc. It has not happened this way, wonder why? So is the cost of 3d printing off set the cost of making these items or has 3d printing not cost effective enough to make these items? I read about people being able to 3d print houses which is much larger than say a braille display or embosser so, why are makers of blindness products not taking advantage of this technology?
CHeers Heather
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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 3d printing

I found a couple of models of things like dice and signature guides on  https://www.thingiverse.com/ but I thought there would be more of a community somewhere.  Maybe there is and I just haven't found it yet, but the response I've got to this message and on twitter etc, indicates that if there is, it mustn't be widely known about...



On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:02 PM Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

When 3D printing was having its moment and really coming into the mainstream a few years ago, I really thought there’d be more enthusiasm for it in the blind community. Imagine all the possibilities. 3D printed maps accurately depicting mountain ranges and terrain. All sorts of objects. I for one whenever I travel, make it a point to snatch up all the cheesy miniatures of all the landmarks I visit, but imagine all the structures and layouts for recreation education and mobility you can think of printing to get a better idea of how things and places are shaped. Alas, cant’ say I know of too many places or companies that delved into this.

It could just be me too. Maybe I’m just not aware of it. I for one wouldn’t mind getting my hands on some of these things.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 3d printing

 

Thanks Sharon!

 

I figure there are things I can think of - such as guides, small tactile objects and so on, but I'm sure there are plenty more things I haven't even thought of, and others interested in the same thing (either people who are blind or have low vision, family members or people in the industry for their clients).

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 10:31 PM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

There was a zoom meeting on Open Scad coding, but I didn't see an invitation.  It was with the National Federation of the Blind.  I'll ask your question on their crafters list.

 

 

On 8/5/2020 1:30 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

This is a personal question, I'm considering getting a 3d printer, and was wondering whether there were any resources available on using these as accessibility tools? For instance, I have found 3d files to print tactile dice or signature guides with them, and was interested in exploring what else can be done in that regard. Are there any mailing lists, web pages, facebook groups etc dedicated to this aspect of 3d printing that anyone is aware of please?  

 

Bonus points of course, for something which works with NVDA :)

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

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