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Re: Internet Explorer will no longer be supported in November

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I am of two minds about the piece that you referenced.

First, I am in total agreement that people should not be using Internet Explorer unless there's a good reason for doing so. The browser just isn't going to keep up with today's Web and many Web sites won't interact properly with Internet Explorer, if at all, and users will find that their experience with IE will be degraded, crippled or nonexistent.

Having said that the Komando article has misquoted the original blog post that it links to. IE is not being retired this November. The blog post states:

"Beginning November 30, 2020, the Microsoft Teams web app will no longer support IE 11."

The end of support has to do with Teams and other Microsoft 365 apps. While IE's retirement is inevitable the blog post makes it clear that the browser isn't going away totally, at least not now and certainly not this year. The Komando piece is an example of poor and irresponsible journalism. Again, this doesn't mean that I'm encouraging users to stick with IE until its official retirement. Unless you're being forced to use it in a corporate environment or unless you're using a screen reader version that is over ten years old Firefox or a Chromium-based browser will offer greater compatibility with today's Web sites, better performance and equal screen reader compatibility to IE with a far more accessible experience.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 8/20/2020 8:18 AM, Gene wrote:

Microsoft has officially said that it will no longer support Internet Explorer with security updates in November.  I don't recall the wording and I don't recall if updates will stop at the beginning of November or at the end.
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.komando.com%2Ftechnology%2Fmicrosoft-kills-internet-explorer%2F750690%2F%3Futm_medium%3Dnl%26utm_source%3Dnotd%26utm_content%3D2020-08-20&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C373e86ff2e67473bf62208d845031ff6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637335227003371146&amp;sdata=I0bJWimCwbyPHgCD9N4A5Fo7%2F8D98KOiHTLtbhY3Iuo%3D&amp;reserved=0

For years, it has been recommended, even by the department of homeland security that Internet Explorer not be used for security reasons.  it has very little market share now.  Yet many blind people continue to use it, evidently because of fear of change.

So here are the choices;
Keep using Internet Explorer as it becomes increasingly dangerous and will slowly work on fewer and fewer sites, or wait until the last moment and then try other browsers under pressure, or try other browsers now and see that the only thing you had to fear was fear itself and give yourself lots of time to learn, not under pressure, the small amount you will have to learn unless you want to change settings in the browser.

For a lot of users, there will be very little to learn.  Browsing is almost completely identical with any browser that supports the Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode.  You will need to learn to work with book marks differently but, unless you want to change settings, that will be almost the only thing you will have to learn.  There are one or two other things, such as how to change where files download to if you don't want them to download to the default folder.

If you want to work with settings, you will have more to learn.

Gene




Re: Google Forms Accessibility

Carrie Morales
 

Ok. Great! I will look into that. Thank you David.

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Forms Accessibility

 

Hi. During the 2020 ACB convention the Next Generation affiliate did a presentation on using Google Forms with a screen reader and it seemed quite accessible. I am having difficulty locating a link to the talk but it should be available in the ACB Conference and Convention podcast feed. Open your podcast player of choice and go through the recent episodes of ACB Conference and Convention and you will likely find it.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 8/19/2020 9:52 PM, Carrie Morales wrote:

Has anyone worked with creating google forms? Are the forms that it creates accessible?

Thanks!

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 


Internet Explorer will no longer be supported in November

Gene
 

Microsoft has officially said that it will no longer support Internet Explorer with security updates in November. I don't recall the wording and I don't recall if updates will stop at the beginning of November or at the end.
https://www.komando.com/technology/microsoft-kills-internet-explorer/750690/?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2020-08-20

For years, it has been recommended, even by the department of homeland security that Internet Explorer not be used for security reasons. it has very little market share now. Yet many blind people continue to use it, evidently because of fear of change.

So here are the choices;
Keep using Internet Explorer as it becomes increasingly dangerous and will slowly work on fewer and fewer sites, or wait until the last moment and then try other browsers under pressure, or try other browsers now and see that the only thing you had to fear was fear itself and give yourself lots of time to learn, not under pressure, the small amount you will have to learn unless you want to change settings in the browser.

For a lot of users, there will be very little to learn. Browsing is almost completely identical with any browser that supports the Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. You will need to learn to work with book marks differently but, unless you want to change settings, that will be almost the only thing you will have to learn. There are one or two other things, such as how to change where files download to if you don't want them to download to the default folder.

If you want to work with settings, you will have more to learn.

Gene


Re: Google Forms Accessibility

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. During the 2020 ACB convention the Next Generation affiliate did a presentation on using Google Forms with a screen reader and it seemed quite accessible. I am having difficulty locating a link to the talk but it should be available in the ACB Conference and Convention podcast feed. Open your podcast player of choice and go through the recent episodes of ACB Conference and Convention and you will likely find it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 8/19/2020 9:52 PM, Carrie Morales wrote:

Has anyone worked with creating google forms? Are the forms that it creates accessible?

Thanks!

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 


Re: Google Forms Accessibility

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi, no all of your messages have made it here just fine.

On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Jeffrey Schwartz <jeffreyschwartz0238@comcast.net> wrote:

I’m having trouble sending messages to this group. Has the address changed?
Jeff

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carrie Morales
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Google Forms Accessibility

Has anyone worked with creating google forms? Are the forms that it creates accessible?
Thanks!



Carrie Morales
Live Accessible
Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter





Re: problem with net flicks and jaws.

Rob Hudson <rob_hudson3182@...>
 

Are you sure you're actually playing the show, and not a preview?
I don't have netflix, but I know some of these services have little show preview buttons to play.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <jeffreyschwartz0238@comcast.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:40:37 -0400
Subject: [TechTalk] problem with net flicks and jaws.

I installed net flicks and began listening to a show. It stopped playing
after a minute or so. Thought it might be conflicting with jaws and
unstalled jaws. It began playing again but stopped shortly.

Any help appreciated,

Jeff






Re: Google Forms Accessibility

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I’m having trouble sending messages to this group.  Has the address   changed?

Jeff

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carrie Morales
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Google Forms Accessibility

 

Has anyone worked with creating google forms? Are the forms that it creates accessible?

Thanks!

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 


problem with net flicks and jaws

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

Installed net flicks.  It spoke for a  minute and stopped.  I  thought it might  conflicting with jaws and uninstalled jaws.  Spoke for another minute and stopped again

Help please,

Jeff


problem with net flicks and jaws.

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I  installed net flicks and began listening to a  show.  It stopped playing after a  minute or so.  Thought it might be conflicting with jaws and unstalled jaws.  It began playing again but stopped shortly.

Any help appreciated,

Jeff


problem with net flicks and jaws

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I  installed netflicks.  I  am trying to listen to a  show which my brother suggested, mind hunter.  It plays for about thirty seconds and stops.  I  thought it may be conflicting with jaws.  Hit the control button and then unstilled jaws.  If I  hit the enter button a  few times, it will start playing for a  short time, but goes silent quickly.

Help appreciated,

Jeff


I need a download for virtual recorder please.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, the one I have no longer works. For some reason, my virtual recorder will no longer work. I record things but won't play in win amp. Up until tonight they railways have. Any ideas on how to fix this? Jim


Inquiry: Wireless Charger For iPhone Available On Amazon

Ron Canazzi
 

Hello Group,

A day or so ago, someone mentioned a wireless charger available on Amazon for $18 US.  I must have deleted this message, so I would appreciate anyone re posting the information.

Thanks for any help.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Google Forms Accessibility

Carrie Morales
 

Has anyone worked with creating google forms? Are the forms that it creates accessible?

Thanks!

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 


Double Oops, It's my iPhone XR with latest Voiceover version and not being able to hear a Facebook video

Sharon Hooley
 

I forgot to say that I'm using an iPhone to listen to that Facebook video I'm having trouble with. My bad. How do I fix the audio with my iPhone XR and latest IOS and Voiceover?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Oops, forgot which device I'm asking about, followup on not being able to hear audio a Facebook video

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi again,

I Googled the question as to why I can't hear audio in a Facebook video, and found the instructions for restoring it. But it said to select the X next to the volume. So how do we do it in an accessible way?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Followup on not being able to hear audio a Facebook video

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi again,

I Googled the question as to why I can't hear audio in a Facebook video, and found the instructions for restoring it. But it said to select the X next to the volume. So how do we do it in an accessible way?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


4k Android TV Box

Fanus
 

Hello list
Has anyone tested such a device in respect of accessibility with TalkBack?
Regards
Fanus


This week on Eyes On Success: Positive Experiences During the Covid-19 Pandemic

blueskies11
 

This week is a special episode of eyes On Success featuring listeners’ experience during the Covid-19 pandemic:

2034 Positive Experiences During COVID-19 Pandemic (Aug. 19, 2020)
Show Notes
The COVID-19 pandemic and stay at home orders have turned life upside down for many people. For some, this has been a time of anxiety, frustration, and even depression. On the other hand, there have also been some positive outcomes experienced by people during this unusual period. This week we highlight some positive experiences shared by our listeners.

 

For those who would like to connect with other listeners and share their thoughts about topics discussed in the show, you might want to join the Eyes On Success discussion forum. This is an e-mail forum to which you can post your own comments and read comments from other forum members.
To join simply send an e-mail to:
EOS_Discuss+Subscribe@...
You will then receive a message from the group asking you to confirm your membership. Then you are all set to go!
Once you have joined, you can post messages to the forum by addressing them to:
EOS_Discuss@...

 

Remember, if you don’t want to miss an episode subscribe to the podcast.  You can also listen on your Amazon or Google smart home device by saying “play the Eyes On Success podcast”.

 

You can also download the audio and show notes and find much more at:

www.EyesOnSuccess.net


Enjoy and share with a friend.

 

Check out Eyes On Success (formerly ViewPoints)

A weekly, half hour audio program for people living with vision loss.

Find out more about the show and get links to past episodes at:

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Find the podcast on iTunes or use the URL:

       www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_podcast

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Re: Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

chris judge
 

I'm guessing he used the option in be my eyes to connect with a Microsoft agent who was then able to talk him through the sequence of events to get him in to bios and make the change.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: August 18, 2020 5:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

They remote into the computer, as far as I know, using Windows to do so. As far as I know, if Windows isn't running they can't. And windows isn't running when you are in the BIOS.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk


Yes, but I figured if they could remote into the computer, they could. Pam.

From: Loy
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

They could not with out sighted help to read the BIOS screen. No screen
reader is capable of reading it. ----- Original Message -----

From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

So then, how would they help you with that if you don’t have any kind of a
smart phone that has all these fancy things like be my eyes? Pam.

From: Loy
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

You can't remote into the Bios.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

Why did you have to do that when using microsoft disability. Don’t they
remote into your computer to help you? Pam.

From: Loy
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 6:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk

Had to go into bios. I used the Be My Eyes app so the person could see the
screen and tell me what keys to press.

----- Original Message -----
From: chris judge
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk


That’s awesome, did you have to go in to the bios or were you able to do it
in windows.





Chris Judge









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: August 17, 2020 3:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Good experience with Microsoft disability help desk







I had a good experience with the Microsoft disability help desk using Be My
Eyes app. They were able to help me disable the FN key on my new laptop.







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Help with Layout of Samsun Galaxy A10e phone

Lisa Belville
 

Hi, all.


I have just unboxed my Samsung Galaxy A10e phone.


I'm waiting on my subscription to Anatad to be approved.  But, until then, is there anyone on Tech talk who could give me a brief description of the layout of this phone?


It is currently lying flat with the screen facing up.   I believe I have it positioned with the 3.5 mm headphone jack on the bottom left with the charging port on the bottom to the right of the headphone jack.


There are two buttons on the right side of the phone.  One is a long, rectangular button , and there is a shorter rectangular button immediately below that one.  I assume one of these is the power button.


I cannot locate any other buttons or an SD card slot at this time.


I'm looking for just the basics, like how to power on the phone. I have the charging cable, and I believe I know how to get the speech started.


I'll have some semi-technically literate eyes over here tomorrow, but I wanted to do as much as I could first.


Oh, in my original post about this phone I gave the incorrect name.  I said it was a Samsung Galaxy A10 when it is actually a Galaxy A10e.  These are actually different models of phone though I'm not sure what the difference is.


I believe this is why the excellent description given by Olusegun isn't working for me. <sigh>


Any help would be appreciated.


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Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

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