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Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Brian:
 
Used the link you sent and same result.


Re: Browser Help Please.

Gene
 

It is very puzzling. It appears that, as Brian implies, For now, don't do anything. Brave should update itself just as Chrome does.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

There was an Adobe update a few weeks ago. A Google search disclosed the
following:
As previously announced in July 2017, Adobe will stop distributing and
updating Flash Player after December 31, 2020

I am very skeptical there is anything wrong with whatever messages you got.
But the thing that puzzles me is whether Brave updates itself as Chrome
does. I just checked and it does but if you have downloaded an older
version, it may be a version that doesn't. See this article. Did you
download brave from the site the support recommends?
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042816611-Why-isn-t-Brave-updating-automatically-on-Windows-
And did you download the versions they discuss? I wonder if you downloade a
version, in some way that doesn't automatically update itself or if there is
some sort of error preventing it from doing so.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Holly
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


Brian:

When I installed the Brave browser, a message came up that I should update
Adobe flash player and update Brave.

I am Leary about doing this, as Adobe is not going to be supported any
longer.

I am not sure this is a legitimate update. I can’t get to the browser
without doing this.

Anyone else see this message?


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

I will un-install it again and try your link.


Re: Browser Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 07:12 PM, Holly wrote:
Downloaded it from Brave.com
Can't explain it.  I've never seen anything like this coming from the folks at Brave, and here's the download link:  https://laptop-updates.brave.com/latest/winx64 (presuming you're on 64-bit Windows).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Gene
 

There was an Adobe update a few weeks ago. A Google search disclosed the following:
As previously announced in July 2017, Adobe will stop distributing and updating Flash Player after December 31, 2020

I am very skeptical there is anything wrong with whatever messages you got. But the thing that puzzles me is whether Brave updates itself as Chrome does. I just checked and it does but if you have downloaded an older version, it may be a version that doesn't. See this article. Did you download brave from the site the support recommends?
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042816611-Why-isn-t-Brave-updating-automatically-on-Windows-
And did you download the versions they discuss? I wonder if you downloade a version, in some way that doesn't automatically update itself or if there is some sort of error preventing it from doing so.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Holly
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


Brian:

When I installed the Brave browser, a message came up that I should update Adobe flash player and update Brave.

I am Leary about doing this, as Adobe is not going to be supported any longer.

I am not sure this is a legitimate update. I can’t get to the browser without doing this.

Anyone else see this message?


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Brian:
 
I am using Chrome to get to the Brave website, but when I download the browser and run the install, I get this message.
 
I have tried un-installing it and re-installing it a couple of times, and still the same thing.


Re: Browser Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Holly,

         Also, even weirder as far as I'm concerned, at the beginning of the text you cut and pasted the bit about the Adobe Flash Player update is a click-through link that begins with:  http://testupgrade.getstablesystemsupdate.work/

          This is something that's completely out of the realm of anything I've ever encountered, period.  This looks like some sort of third-party updater, which, as far as I'm concerned as a computer repair tech, is the spawn of satan.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Heather:
 
Downloaded it from Brave.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Holly,

         I don't know what's going on here, as everything is showing Chrome, which Brave does not do, and it certainly doesn't present the Chrome logo.  This appears to be in Chrome, not Brave.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Brian:
 
Here is the message..  At the top, it says to ‘Please update Brave”"”"’.
Your Adobe Flash Player is out of date.
 
 
Software update

Software Update

Your Adobe Flash Player is out of date

Downloading new updates...

Updating takes a few seconds and no restart is needed after installation.
1DownloadWhen the file done downloading,
you'll see it at the bottom of your
Chrome window.
2Open the fileClick the file starting with ‘Flash Player’.
3Run the applicationConfirm the installation by clicking
Continue and Install
buttons.
Type your password.


Re: Browser Help Please.

heather albright
 


Well, that never happened when I installed the program. Did you get it off the brave site? I wonder why it is not on www.ninite.com like all the other browsers are? I use that site, no weird software comes with the programs! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Brian:
 
When I installed the Brave browser, a message came up that I should update Adobe flash player and update Brave.
 
I am Leary about doing this, as Adobe is not going to be supported any longer.
 
I am not sure this is a legitimate update.  I can’t get to the browser without doing this.
 
Anyone else see this message?


Re: Internet Explorer will no longer be supported in November

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Robin,

          I think that, ultimately, it is going to require Microsoft removing Internet Explorer entirely before the last-gasp hold outs (and that includes those who have sites so badly designed that they only work well with IE) will be forced to do what should have been done long ago:  dropping Internet Explorer.

          Microsoft very, very seldom (and I'd say never) does rapid removal of virtually anything that's been a part of the Windows ecosystem "forever" so that plenty of transition time is available.  But some won't make a graceful transition, and they get exactly what they deserve when the software is removed.  You can lead a horse to water . . .
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Personal Power, the iOS edition, by Michael Feir, audio Daisy completed!

Abbie Taylor
 

Curtis, this link worked. Thank you so much! I'm really looking forward to reading this.
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Browser Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

The only messages I've ever seen were the ones saying that support for Flash was being dropped, but it's been so long I can't recall what they said.

I have never had Brave suggest I do something unsafe, so I tend to follow what it requests.

It would help to have the exact message text before advising, as I can't be certain what you're being told.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Brian:
 
When I installed the Brave browser, a message came up that I should update Adobe flash player and update Brave.
 
I am Leary about doing this, as Adobe is not going to be supported any longer.
 
I am not sure this is a legitimate update.  I can’t get to the browser without doing this.
 
Anyone else see this message?


Re: Internet Explorer will no longer be supported in November

Robin Frost
 

Hi,

Frankly I'm surprised that a Windows update doesn't completely deprecate it from machines thus people couldn't continue to use it. Earlier this year I removed it from my desktop so I'd not be tempted to go to it for anything and frankly I haven't missed it one little bit. Google Chrome and Microsoft's Edge and Fire Fox are performing well for me.

Take good care.

Robin


On 8/20/2020 8:48 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

I am of two minds about the piece that you referenced.

First, I am in total agreement that people should not be using Internet Explorer unless there's a good reason for doing so. The browser just isn't going to keep up with today's Web and many Web sites won't interact properly with Internet Explorer, if at all, and users will find that their experience with IE will be degraded, crippled or nonexistent.

Having said that the Komando article has misquoted the original blog post that it links to. IE is not being retired this November. The blog post states:

"Beginning November 30, 2020, the Microsoft Teams web app will no longer support IE 11."

The end of support has to do with Teams and other Microsoft 365 apps. While IE's retirement is inevitable the blog post makes it clear that the browser isn't going away totally, at least not now and certainly not this year. The Komando piece is an example of poor and irresponsible journalism. Again, this doesn't mean that I'm encouraging users to stick with IE until its official retirement. Unless you're being forced to use it in a corporate environment or unless you're using a screen reader version that is over ten years old Firefox or a Chromium-based browser will offer greater compatibility with today's Web sites, better performance and equal screen reader compatibility to IE with a far more accessible experience.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 8/20/2020 8:18 AM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft has officially said that it will no longer support Internet Explorer with security updates in November.  I don't recall the wording and I don't recall if updates will stop at the beginning of November or at the end.
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.komando.com%2Ftechnology%2Fmicrosoft-kills-internet-explorer%2F750690%2F%3Futm_medium%3Dnl%26utm_source%3Dnotd%26utm_content%3D2020-08-20&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C373e86ff2e67473bf62208d845031ff6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637335227003371146&amp;sdata=I0bJWimCwbyPHgCD9N4A5Fo7%2F8D98KOiHTLtbhY3Iuo%3D&amp;reserved=0

For years, it has been recommended, even by the department of homeland security that Internet Explorer not be used for security reasons.  it has very little market share now.  Yet many blind people continue to use it, evidently because of fear of change.

So here are the choices;
Keep using Internet Explorer as it becomes increasingly dangerous and will slowly work on fewer and fewer sites, or wait until the last moment and then try other browsers under pressure, or try other browsers now and see that the only thing you had to fear was fear itself and give yourself lots of time to learn, not under pressure, the small amount you will have to learn unless you want to change settings in the browser.

For a lot of users, there will be very little to learn.  Browsing is almost completely identical with any browser that supports the Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode.  You will need to learn to work with book marks differently but, unless you want to change settings, that will be almost the only thing you will have to learn.  There are one or two other things, such as how to change where files download to if you don't want them to download to the default folder.

If you want to work with settings, you will have more to learn.

Gene




issue with net flicks and jaws

Jeffrey Schwartz
 

I search for a movie, in this case, the Big Chill.  I get a message stating that the program is searching for the Big Chill.  Jaws says that this is a link, but it takes me nowhere.  Below is a list of ten or more links which seem like URLs.  You would think that the first  would be my movie, but it is not.  I go down the list until I become too frustrated.

Help, please

Jeff


Re: exporting contacts from a microsd card

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

What's going to determine what you can, or cannot, do is how the source device can export contacts.  This is what their documentation says:

BACKING UP CONTACTS
  • Select the backup contacts menu item to create a Contacts.vcf file; this will copy contacts that are in the phone's contact list to the Contacts.vcf file.
  • If a memory card is in the phone, the file will be created in the root folder of the memory card.
  • If no memory card is present in the phone, the file will be created in the root folder of the internal storage of the phone.
This means that you would need to import from VCF format on the iPhone.  Not knowing which tutorial you'd prefer, I'd suggest you take a look at these search results and have a look at the first several that cover importing from VCF on iPhone.  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=import+contacts+iphone+VCF

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Internet Explorer will no longer be supported in November

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 08:48 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Having said that the Komando article has misquoted the original blog post that it links to. IE is not being retired this November.
-
I personally never believe that anything said by Kim Komando is anywhere near to 100% accurate.  At least a direct link to the source material is in this particular article, but there have been others where there was not even that.  Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy!!  And a long track record of being so.

That being said, I absolutely agree that no one should continue to use IE, except if one happens to have the very odd situation where that's forced by a given employer or website, and that's a very, very rare occurrence these days.

I've posted the references that follow on other groups before, but they're certainly pertinent in this topic:

Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer | Daniel Miessler        (Dec 2019)

The perils of using Internet Explorer as your default browser ...            (March 2019 – straight from the proverbial horse’s mouth)

Microsoft cybersecurity expert: Please, stop using Internet ...  (Feb 2019)

Microsoft security chief: IE is not a browser, so stop using ...     (Feb 2019)

Microsoft wants you to stop using Internet Explorer                    (Feb 2019)

12 reasons not to use Internet Explorer, ever | Computerworld  (June 2011 – Even more valid now)

And if you web search on “Why you should not use Internet Explorer” the list of returned results is long, and virtually unanimous in the expert (and non-expert) opinion that you should not.

Brian


Re: Browser Help Please.

Holly
 

Thanks for the info.

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