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Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Carolyn Arnold
 

But it came to the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of gbmagoo@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Yes it did

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 07:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Sorry to bother you, just seeing if this works,l thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of gbmagoo@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Why in your in box list of mails.
On the one you wish to reply to or to the group do the following Right click on the email which is shift f10 Now I got a lis of choices the first was reply the second was reply to all arrow to the one you wish and hit enter and do your email thing in the opened email

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 04:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

I'm almost embarrassed that I'm even asking this question as I assumed that the method for doing this was obvious. Perhaps it is but clearly it isn't to me.

Using Win10, version 2004 with what is likely the latest build or at least a very current version of Outlook 365.

Normally, if a sender has sent a message to you along with other individuals pressing ctrl-r replies to the original sender only and pressing shift-ctrl-r replies to everyone in the thread.

Someone asked me how to reply to the original sender of a Groups.io message using Outlook. In that instance pressing ctrl-R does reply to the group.

If I press the tab key a few times after opening the message I do encounter a button with the name of the original sender. You would think that pressing space or enter on that button would allow you to send an email to that person but it does not. Even the context menu doesn't have an option to send an email message as it does with Thunderbird. What's the most efficient method for sending an email to just the sender?


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Carolyn Arnold
 

So, it did not work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Sorry to bother you, just seeing if this works,l thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of gbmagoo@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Why in your in box list of mails.
On the one you wish to reply to or to the group do the following Right click on the email which is shift f10 Now I got a lis of choices the first was reply the second was reply to all arrow to the one you wish and hit enter and do your email thing in the opened email

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 04:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

I'm almost embarrassed that I'm even asking this question as I assumed that the method for doing this was obvious. Perhaps it is but clearly it isn't to me.

Using Win10, version 2004 with what is likely the latest build or at least a very current version of Outlook 365.

Normally, if a sender has sent a message to you along with other individuals pressing ctrl-r replies to the original sender only and pressing shift-ctrl-r replies to everyone in the thread.

Someone asked me how to reply to the original sender of a Groups.io message using Outlook. In that instance pressing ctrl-R does reply to the group.

If I press the tab key a few times after opening the message I do encounter a button with the name of the original sender. You would think that pressing space or enter on that button would allow you to send an email to that person but it does not. Even the context menu doesn't have an option to send an email message as it does with Thunderbird. What's the most efficient method for sending an email to just the sender?


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Carolyn Arnold
 

I would much rather someone post, Brian, like you, and a few others with a bit on top about what was said that just post and cut off at their message, where, sometimes, I have to flounder to know what in the world they are talking about, with no reference.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:24 AM, Laz wrote:


it should be noted that Brian is fully sighted and does things as a sighted person does

-
Indeed I am and do. I've never made a secret of the fact I'm fully sighted.

That doesn't make any of the rest of your message have the slightest bit of validity. I've been working with blind individuals for many, many years now, and am acutely aware of "how things work." But the fact is that "how things work" in any community often need to be changed, at least somewhat.

The obsession with only top-posting, and never including any reference material before starting one's own content, is one of those things. I hear, and frequently, "We/I want to be treated just like anyone else." Well, I'm not going to back down on my earlier assertion that this particular style of "quote response quote response" has been the norm in most email I've dealt with since the 1980s when one cannot simply presume that the reader will know exactly who and/or what is being replied to at the outset. It's long past time that the complaints about this cease, period. It's done, it's done commonly, you (any you) need to know how to deal with it. And most sighted people would not bother with including a hyphen, as I do, because they'd have no reason to believe it is necessary.

I do conform myself to the customs of any community in which I participate when possible and when those customs do not interfere with effective communication. If I had not left the tiny bit of context at the outset to which I was replying, this message would have been much less clear. It's that simply, so I'm not going to even try to please those that want me to write in a manner I know to be less clear, not more so.

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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Laz
 

Actually this isn't always the case; mostly people actually just leave
quietly. However in Joseph Hudson's case I believe he wanted people to
know that he has his own list where he does things his way and
announced it after attacking this list's owner. This is not the first
time he has done this.

And yes, Gene has done a marvelous jobrunning this list closely
channeling Carlos.

Stay well,

Laz

On 8/27/20, Dave <dlh007@centurylink.net> wrote:
Why do Members of a list usually threaten to leave the list when someone
else says something they find objectionable?


Holding yourself Hostage just seems a bit Self Centered to me.


I've been a list owner in years past, and a member of many lists through
the years.


If I don't care for someone's attitude, or their opinions, I rarely kick
them off the list, nor do I cry to the list owner to have them bring
correction.


I use my Delete Key, and I don't read posts with that subject line. I
once was on a list not too long ago, when I had two other members just
bringing material that was meant to be obnoxious.


I found their comments to be irritating, and so I just stopped reading
anything they posted. If I could have figured out how to do it, I would
have had my Email program just filter out all messages sent to the list
by these two people.


Instead I just Deleted them by hand.


Everyone has their opinions, and I may not care for some, they still
have the right to state them.


Freedom of Speech is valuable, extremely valuable. And to lose it, as
we are experiencing in the Western Nations will end up being a terrible
thing.


Be careful what you ask for and demand, as some day it could, and
probably will be used against you.


Grumpy Dave






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locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Carolyn Arnold
 

If I intend to leave a list, I do not intrude on everyone in the list, just simply to go bottom of email and click on unsubscribe. If I'm leaving, why throw a fit about it, just bye, bye, way easier for me and everyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Why do Members of a list usually threaten to leave the list when someone else says something they find objectionable?


Holding yourself Hostage just seems a bit Self Centered to me.


I've been a list owner in years past, and a member of many lists through the years.


If I don't care for someone's attitude, or their opinions, I rarely kick them off the list, nor do I cry to the list owner to have them bring correction.


I use my Delete Key, and I don't read posts with that subject line. I once was on a list not too long ago, when I had two other members just bringing material that was meant to be obnoxious.


I found their comments to be irritating, and so I just stopped reading anything they posted. If I could have figured out how to do it, I would have had my Email program just filter out all messages sent to the list by these two people.


Instead I just Deleted them by hand.


Everyone has their opinions, and I may not care for some, they still have the right to state them.


Freedom of Speech is valuable, extremely valuable. And to lose it, as we are experiencing in the Western Nations will end up being a terrible thing.


Be careful what you ask for and demand, as some day it could, and probably will be used against you.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

The default behavior for "Reply" for any Groups.io message is "Reply to List" unless a group owner has engineered something very odd, which I have yet to see a single one do.

I will repeat, one last time, if you wish to reply to the sender of a given message, privately, then use the Reply to Sender link at the bottom of that message.  Activating same should trigger your email client or webmail to open a blank message with the sender's address filled in and with the subject reading, "Private:," followed by the title of the actual topic.  Of course, you can alter the Subject to your liking if you so choose.

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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

gbmagoo@...
 

Yes it did

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 07:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Sorry to bother you, just seeing if this works,l thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of gbmagoo@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Why in your in box list of mails.
On the one you wish to reply to or to the group do the following Right click on the email which is shift f10 Now I got a lis of choices the first was reply the second was reply to all arrow to the one you wish and hit enter and do your email thing in the opened email

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 04:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

I'm almost embarrassed that I'm even asking this question as I assumed that the method for doing this was obvious. Perhaps it is but clearly it isn't to me.

Using Win10, version 2004 with what is likely the latest build or at least a very current version of Outlook 365.

Normally, if a sender has sent a message to you along with other individuals pressing ctrl-r replies to the original sender only and pressing shift-ctrl-r replies to everyone in the thread.

Someone asked me how to reply to the original sender of a Groups.io message using Outlook. In that instance pressing ctrl-R does reply to the group.

If I press the tab key a few times after opening the message I do encounter a button with the name of the original sender. You would think that pressing space or enter on that button would allow you to send an email to that person but it does not. Even the context menu doesn't have an option to send an email message as it does with Thunderbird. What's the most efficient method for sending an email to just the sender?


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Re: headphone style microphone?

Abbie Taylor
 

Sharon, if you also want a headset, you can get headset/microphone combinations that plug into 3 millimeter jacks. I hope that helps.
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httpccwwwddabbiejohnsontaylor.com 

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Carolyn Arnold
 

Sorry to bother you, just seeing if this works,l thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of gbmagoo@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Why in your in box list of mails.
On the one you wish to reply to or to the group do the following Right click on the email which is shift f10 Now I got a lis of choices the first was reply the second was reply to all arrow to the one you wish and hit enter and do your email thing in the opened email

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 04:49
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

I'm almost embarrassed that I'm even asking this question as I assumed that the method for doing this was obvious. Perhaps it is but clearly it isn't to me.

Using Win10, version 2004 with what is likely the latest build or at least a very current version of Outlook 365.

Normally, if a sender has sent a message to you along with other individuals pressing ctrl-r replies to the original sender only and pressing shift-ctrl-r replies to everyone in the thread.

Someone asked me how to reply to the original sender of a Groups.io message using Outlook. In that instance pressing ctrl-R does reply to the group.

If I press the tab key a few times after opening the message I do encounter a button with the name of the original sender. You would think that pressing space or enter on that button would allow you to send an email to that person but it does not. Even the context menu doesn't have an option to send an email message as it does with Thunderbird. What's the most efficient method for sending an email to just the sender?


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:24 AM, Laz wrote:
it should be noted that Brian is fully sighted and does things as a sighted person does
-
Indeed I am and do.  I've never made a secret of the fact I'm fully sighted.

That doesn't make any of the rest of your message have the slightest bit of validity.  I've been working with blind individuals for many, many years now, and am acutely aware of "how things work."  But the fact is that "how things work" in any community often need to be changed, at least somewhat.

The obsession with only top-posting, and never including any reference material before starting one's own content, is one of those things.  I hear, and frequently, "We/I want to be treated just like anyone else."  Well, I'm not going to back down on my earlier assertion that this particular style of "quote response quote response" has been the norm in most email I've dealt with since the 1980s when one cannot simply presume that the reader will know exactly who and/or what is being replied to at the outset.  It's long past time that the complaints about this cease, period.   It's done, it's done commonly, you (any you) need to know how to deal with it.  And most sighted people would not bother with including a hyphen, as I do, because they'd have no reason to believe it is necessary.

I do conform myself to the customs of any community in which I participate when possible and when those customs do not interfere with effective communication.  If I had not left the tiny bit of context at the outset to which I was replying, this message would have been much less clear.  It's that simply, so I'm not going to even try to please those that want me to write in a manner I know to be less clear, not more so.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?

Pamela Dominguez
 

What are developer groups?  Pam.
 

From: Norman
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
 

I have to agree with brian here.

Quoting the message that you're responding to above your response is a fairly common practice, especially in developer groups. I used to be on a list for drbd, which is a data syncronization program and well over 80 percent of the messages on that list were written in such a manner.

Personally i've not started doing that as a general practice, but the wining on this subject has made me think about starting to do so.

 

On 8/26/2020 11:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:06 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
In a normal email, if the person answers the person’s questions, you can see what they are responding to under the response.
-
No.  In a typical "blind-style" email, perhaps, but I can assure you that most of the world does "quote, response, quote, response, quote, response" not "response, quote, response, quote, response, quote," when complex exchanges are involved.

Even I don't quote at the top when it would be immediately obvious to most readers in a topic what I was responding to.  This message is another case where there have been multiple responses, by multiple members, prior to this offering by me.

This entire message would be far harder to decipher were the assertion I'm saying is incorrect were to be at the bottom.  I would, in fact, for most readers, be entirely backward.

I also found out that NVDA (and, by extension, I'd be willing to presume most screen readers) can handle block quotes in e-mail messages with a built-in single letter navigation command, and a complementary single character (but not letter) built-in command to jump out of a block quote to the next/previous batch of unquoted material.  Anyone who wants to read about that can see the topic on the NVDA Group: 
Access regarding email with quotations and screen readers, NVDA, in this case

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Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Carolyn Arnold
 

Recently, I tried JAWS-Key+Shift+R, and it came right to the
list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question: How to Reply To the
Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Mr. Goldfield asked:

"What's the most efficient method for sending an email to
just the sender?"

If using Jaws as a screen reader, Jaws-Key (AKA
INSERT)+Shift+r does the trick. It will PLACE THE SENDER'S
ADDRESS in the "TO" field automatically, and you can start
typing your text in the message body.

I don't know how this can be done using NVDA.

Hope this is a tad helpful?

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Carolyn Arnold
 

I, for one, will not bother with bottom posting. If it is not at the top, where it is convenient to read, I just move on to the next one.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

I totally agree with those who don't like to see the original message at the top. The interesting thing is, back in 2001 and somewhat later, when I started joining groups, many sighted people put the original messages on top. At that time most were from AOL, and I did have to delete most of these because yes it's confusing and even putting a hyphen in you still don't know how long the original message is and where to find that hyphen and read the reply. Now it seems that few if any sighted people in groups reply with the original message at the top, and I admit I was a little surprised a blind person would do it simply because many blind people, just like me, were confused and even annoyed by this practice. I wonder if many in the sighted community found it to be as frustrating as we sometimes get, because I haven't seen this hardly at all in groups where mostly sighted people are members. I do know who replies at the bottom in this and another group, and I just delete those messages. Leaving the original message in emails can be very helpful, and many of us leave the originals but at the bottom. I don't want it to be an argument either, and the original member who simply pointed out that it's confusing, wasn't trying to be rude but was trying to just point out something that would be helpful to many of us. Of course people will do what they want, but I don't think this was originally intended to start an argument but to let the poster know that it can be confusing. I'd never tell someone how to post, and just because some of us don't like it that doesn't mean a person has to make a change if he doesn't want to.
Without arguing, I'm simply expressing my opinion as others have and that's all.


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Carolyn Arnold
 

Yes, Gene, I think you are doing fine. While all of us
thought the world of Carlos, we thought George Washington
was good, but there's no point telling Donald Trump that
George Washington did it this way. George Washington is not
the President now; Donald Trump is. Same with the list.
Carlos does not own it; you do.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 3:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the
blindness community

Hi Gene,
You are doing fine.
You will always find someone who has nothing better to do
than criticize Thanks for all you do.

73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the
blindness community

Though you aren't aware of it I would imagine, the list has
been gradually increasing its members over time. If this
list starts to decline and the reason may be me, I'll
consider appointing another owner. Laaz would make a

good owner. He is now the moderator. I put the well-being
of the list above whether I am owner. I am pleased to serve
as owner. If that becomes detrimental to the list, I'll
step down if I am convinced that is the right thing to do.
I am not list owner for my ego. I'm list owner because I
was asked to be and people generally approved.

Now, if you wish to continue to insult me and show your
disdain for how the list is run, please do so on the chat
list, where almost anything is allowed

to be discussed.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the
blindness community

Well I think he would've made an issue out of it if they
were over 71 messages in the thread and what was being
discussed was no longer relevant to the current subject
line. And I just had to go back to my trash folder and I
found the thread, and that thread his head 71 messages
probably plus yes, I no you talk about not being guilty of
changing subject lines but I think after a while he would've
come forward and requested the change. Oh well it's your
list it'll fall apart just like others that I've been a part
of have. It's OK.
On Aug 27, 2020, at 12:37 AM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>
wrote:

No, Carlos never strictly enforced that rule. I remember
a message
where he said it would be a good thing if people change
subject lines
if the discussion changes in a thread but that it is so
common that
this isn't done that he wouldn't stricgtlhy enforce it.
He even said
that he is guilty of not changing subject lines himself.

I believe he would change a subject line off and on. he
may have
reminded
list members that it would be a good thing if they did but
as I said,
he never made much of an issue about it.
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in
the blindness
community

Hi Brian, I'm fully aware of the functionality of
groups.io. That's
not the point. I was interested in the discussion at hand.
And I know
one of Carlos's rules was to keep subject lines on topic
especially
whenever I came to the tech talk group.
joseph hudson

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On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:58 PM, Brian Vogel
<britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

Let's not forget that at the bottom of each and every
message that
arrives from Groups.io, whether individual messages or in
digests, is
the
Mute this topic link. If a topic is no longer of
interest, which can
happen, that's what it's there for.

Anyone can also set up topic preview for any Groups.io
group, if
they're willing to log in to their Groups.io account to
do so.
Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from
Groups.io
(docx). This can be very,
very handy on high-traffic groups where it's a select few
topics that
you
really have an interest in.

Those using any service owe it to themselves to become
familiar with
the features offered, and Groups.io gives individual
users a far
greater degree of control than many.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
Always
remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs -
they rarely
fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off
and on.
~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on
Technibble.com





locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Laz
 

Hi all,

While this does not excuse the rudeness on the part of Joseph hudson
in his messages, it should be noted that Brian is fully sighted and
does things as a sighted person does. It is far easier for him as a
sighted person to find answers in an email message given in the way he
prefers. As we all know most sighted people don't understand that some
blind people may have to and prefer, to do things slightly differently
than some fully sighted people do for good reason. This is why it's
customary for everyone to top post on mailing lists as most blind
people do.

I hope this clears up any confusions.

Laz list moderator

On 8/27/20, joanne <grandma1323@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Ann. You presented both sides in a very helpful way, and I will
try this method. Yes it's different than how I'd do it, but it sounds to me

like you have found an efficient way to read the sender's reply.


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From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@sero.email>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:45 AM
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the blindness
community

Morning all,

Good heavens, all this hoopla? Joseph, I can understand your frustration,

but your message should have gone to Gene privately. Now, we've got a
whole slew of messages which are clogging up the list. You ought to know

that criticisms of posters, posts and/or the listowner and his/her
policies sent to a list are werboten. If I were the list owner, I'd place

you on review. However, I'm not he.

Actually, the topic has, I think, run its course. Brian has explained his

method, and it does make logical sense. It just requires a bit of info to

read efficiently. So, my difficulty with his posts are over. Now that I

know the most efficient way to read them, I'm good. So, talk to Gene
privately about the list, please.

If you want to read Brian's posts efficiently, and you do not want to read

the one or two sentence quote at the top of his posts, do a find for - and

you'll be placed right at the top of his posts. He actually takes some
time and effort with his posts which is more than a lot of people do.
'nough said.

Ann P.


Original message:
First things first, and I'm going to do it. I wish somebody would've like

change the subject line because it has nothing to do with the subject
line that's been discussed and I'm quite disappointed at the admin team
hasn't done this. Secondly Brian, I've never seen anybody right like what

you do, until I started reading emails on groups.io. And I communicate
with Senate folks on email quite frequently. There is nobody that writes

like what you do it's up Mark in a couple of other people on GMF. And
that's about the only time that I even pay attention to that particular
writing style. And I'm gonna tell you if this was my list. And you want
to write like that to make it confusing for other blind individuals to
decipher all that mess and especially if they were a beginner, you know
what I would do until you go ahead and start your own list and do just
exactly what you're doing here. I probably will be leaving this group
sooner than later because I've been reading and deleting this thread for

quite some time. And it sounds like it's just come in bunch of bickering

back-and-forth. And if the admin team doesn't want me to leave because of

the acid that I am to this list and to the health that I do provide
occasionally then please take control of your list a little bit better.
I'm sorry I had to come down like this but it was quite getting somewhat

annoying.
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Subject lines.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I have considered leaving Blind Tech, because of list
overload, but not this group. This group seems to have more
things related to what I am interested in. Conversation does
tend to drift, and I, for one, am guilty of getting caught
up in where it is going and going with the flow. I don't
know what is a good way to make me, for one, better at
either staying on subject or starting a new thread.


I need a step by step guide to set up a play list in win amp please.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I am running jaws 2020 and windows ten. Thanks. Jim        


locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community

Dave
 

Why do Members of a list usually threaten to leave the list when someone
else says something they find objectionable?


Holding yourself Hostage just seems a bit Self Centered to me.


I've been a list owner in years past, and a member of many lists through
the years.


If I don't care for someone's attitude, or their opinions, I rarely kick
them off the list, nor do I cry to the list owner to have them bring
correction.


I use my Delete Key, and I don't read posts with that subject line.  I
once was on a list not too long ago, when I had two other members just
bringing material that was meant to be obnoxious.


I found their comments to be irritating, and so I just stopped reading
anything they posted.  If I could have figured out how to do it, I would
have had my Email program just filter out all messages sent to the list
by these two people.


Instead I just Deleted them by hand.


Everyone has their opinions, and I may not care for some, they still
have the right to state them.


Freedom of Speech is valuable, extremely valuable.  And to lose it, as
we are experiencing in the Western Nations will end up being a terrible
thing.


Be careful what you ask for and demand, as some day it could, and
probably will be used against you.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Hello Mr. Goldfield:

I forgot to include the following info in my last response to your question.
Here's that info:

To use the Jaws-Key+Shift+r command to reply to the sender of an E-mail
message, the message being responded to must be open for reading. The
Sender's address CAN NOT BE RETRIEVED if the message is closed.

Apologies for sending out my last response too quickly, much thanks!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Question: How to Reply To the Original Sender Of a Groups.io Message Using Outlook 365

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 07:49 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Someone asked me how to reply to the original sender of a Groups.io message
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By activating the "Reply to Sender" mailto link at the bottom of any given message.  It's purpose for being is to allow you to start an "off-list/off-group" conversation with whoever wrote the message, without involving anyone else in the group.
 
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