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Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

What version of Windows is in use here?    I agree that Autoplay is involved.

If you are using Windows 10, go to Settings, Devices, Autoplay and if Autoplay is on, take a look at what the default action is for Removable Drives.  You'll probably want to reset it to either ask me every time or to open folder to view files (File Explorer).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Veronica Kirk
 

I mostly use XP for listening to music with WMP. AVG is also on that computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Wow, your using xp! I hope it is not online, totally out dated! I like xp too but, I think the last security updates were sent out on april 8 2014.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10.
Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: two items

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:29 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] two items

Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud
music which is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY


Re: two items

Mike B
 

Hi Joe,
 
Here is the info for 2 groups:
 
VIPhone group:
To post to the group:
 
 
To subscribe:
 
 
To unsubscribe:
 
 

iDevices group:
To post to the group:
 
 
 - to subscribe to this group
 
 
 - to unsubscribe from this group
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:28 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] two items

Good morning,

I have two questions:

1.  Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY



Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Mike B
 


To keep the CD / DVD from trying to start when you insert a disk, hold down the left shift key for around 20 seconds when closing the tray door.  The right shift key might work as well, but I've only use the left shift key.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Howard, I think you are looking for a way to disable autorun. If so, please refer to the following:

Press the Windows key or click the Windows icon in the lower-left corner of your desktop.
Type in autoplay and click on the AutoPlay Settings option.
From this screen, toggle AutoPlay For All Media And Devices to Off. Also switch AutoPlay defaults for removable drives and memory cards to Take No Action.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Shift key, simply pressing and holding as was already mentioned.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 14:38
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

When I insert a disk into the CD/DVD drive, Windows 10 either runs an associated program or (if one exists on the disk) starts the install program.  I'd just like to open and read what's in the directory.  Is there a setting to change to make that happen.

Thanks, anyone.

Howard










Trekkor Groups

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
A friend is looking for a group that he can join to learn more about the GPS device called the Trekkor.  Does anyone know of and how to join such a group if there's one available?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!


Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Norma A. Boge
 

Howard, I think you are looking for a way to disable autorun. If so, please refer to the following:

Press the Windows key or click the Windows icon in the lower-left corner of your desktop.
Type in autoplay and click on the AutoPlay Settings option.
From this screen, toggle AutoPlay For All Media And Devices to Off. Also switch AutoPlay defaults for removable drives and memory cards to Take No Action.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Shift key, simply pressing and holding as was already mentioned.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 14:38
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

When I insert a disk into the CD/DVD drive, Windows 10 either runs an associated program or (if one exists on the disk) starts the install program. I'd just like to open and read what's in the directory. Is there a setting to change to make that happen.

Thanks, anyone.

Howard


Re: two items

Joe Giovanelli
 

You won't find Eye-D Pro. You'll find Eye-D. Once it is installed, you have the chance to upgrade.

Had I not done it, the music wouldn't be the problem it is now.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: gbmagoo@gmail.com
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items



Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn't see it I'm curious and then maybe I can help you thanks
On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

?Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY




Re: two items

Monte Single
 

Yes, there are lists for I phone users.

The only one I ha ve the subscription infor for is;

Phonesfortheblind-subscribe@groups.io

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: August 28, 2020 8:29 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] two items

Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which is
much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY


Re: two items

gbmagoo@...
 

Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn’t see it I’m curious and then maybe I can help you thanks

On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY



two items

Joe Giovanelli
 

Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY


Bank Shortcut is now an App?

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I created an Internet shortcut  for my bank on my desktop. Now it opens as it's own app.
 I've never seen this happen before, is this something new in Windows 10?------------------
And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not;
I will lead them in paths that they have not known:
I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight.
These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.Isaiah 42:16  


Re: respecting leaving computers on, or not

Hope Williamson
 

I used to power my last system off nightly, and it was around for 6
years. It was only decommissioned because the friend I passed it on to
got a newer system, so actually around 9 years.

    I don't do this any more though. Mostly because I forget, or get
preoccupied with something. I try to remember to power down every 7-10
days though.


Re: I need a step by step guide to set up a play list in win amp please.

Smiling?
 

Creating Playlists using Winamp

 

There are simple ways of creating playlist files (.M3U, .PLS, etc.) within Winamp alone (without having to install anything extra) and here are the directions below:

 

1. Open up Winamp.

2. Within the Winamp Playlist Editor tab we'll call it (Alt+E) which is where you have all of your chosen tracks. To choose individual tracks to add to this list, just highlight/select whatever tracks on your machine or other drives that you are wanting to add to the playlist, use your applications key (Shift+F10), but the Winamp Playlist Editor tab (Alt+E) does not actually need to be open for all of this to work.

3. Then press E for Enqueue in Winamp. Do this with whatever tracks, albums, folders that have anything you are wanting to add to the playlist that you are interested in creating.

4. When finished adding all you desire to add, go to the Winamp Playlist Editor tab like before (probably only needing to Control+Tab to it if focus is not already there) You can arrow up and down to check out what you've placed within the playlist use the keystroke Control+S to save the playlist you've put together. Name and save it wherever you prefer. It can be moved anywhere on the machine, it's just the files within this playlist you've put together can't be moved for them to continue to work with the playlist itself.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:14
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I need a step by step guide to set up a play list in win amp please.

 

Hi all, I am running jaws 2020 and windows ten. Thanks. Jim        


Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Smiling?
 

Shift key, simply pressing and holding as was already mentioned.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 14:38
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

When I insert a disk into the CD/DVD drive, Windows 10 either runs an associated program or (if one exists on the disk) starts the install program. I'd just like to open and read what's in the directory. Is there a setting to change to make that happen.

Thanks, anyone.

Howard


Re: Browser Help Please.

heather albright
 

So strange. But try this windows i and type default and it will get you to your default programs. So find webbrowser, and select brave. So you can go to the run box and type in a site and windows should use brave. And not sure why the short cut does not do this. so delete that short cut and go to your shell apps folder and put brave on it by send the shortcut to the desktop. cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet" <janet.harvard@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


Hi Gene and All,
Ok, I finally downloaded the Brave Browser, and I restarted my computer, and then I had an update from JAWS, and had to restart again, so, I finally got to try to use Brave. I do have the Brave icon on my desktop, but when I enter on Brave, it seems to take me to my download folder as that is where I download files to, instead of Brave connecting to my internet. How can I get Brave to connect to my internet, so if I want to browse the internet? I can't find where to tell Brave where to download my files either. Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it.
You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where
to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to
see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you
need to change in Brave.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I
sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who
might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and
I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make
Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while
I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Re: Browser Help Please.

heather albright
 

Wow, your using xp! I hope it is not online, totally out dated! I like xp too but, I think the last security updates were sent out on april 8 2014. Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10. Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Browser Help Please.

Veronica Kirk
 

I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10. Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: respecting leaving computers on, or not

Monte Single
 

I’m  no techy,  but that 500 watt power supply  is probably using very little power most of the time.

 

ON the other hand, my side by side fridge freezer probably  uses the most power  of all items in my condo.  Sometimes when I walk in front of the fridge in my bare feet, the floor is nicely warm.

As I do not have a  tv, the only other things in my home that use much power is the dryer, and oven.

P S,  I’m in a condo so  heat and hot water are provided centrally.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: August 27, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] respecting leaving computers on, or not

 

Speaking of Power Drain, I've been curious, what sort of Power does an I7 chip with a 500 watt power supply require? 

 

Which draws more, the Computer, or the refrigerator?

 

Grumpy Dave

 

 

On 8/27/2020 11:13 AM, Geoff Eden wrote:

Good afternoon, mechanical hard drives, you make a case! Not only is there a large current draw for startup, but you are essentially rolling on dry bearings for a few revolutions until their floating design puts the platter spindle airborne.

 

During boot up the head rack also gets a good workout.

 

I'm all SSD here, but my avarice kicks in when viewing the monthly electric bill. So I still turn my computers off, at least, most of the time.

 

Geoff

 

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] respecting leaving computers on, or not

 

Geoff,

          I don't think that most of us think of LEDs as "light bulbs" in the conventional sense, and you're 100% correct on the difference between them and incandescents, which is what was being referred to at the time that quotation was written.  True LED bulbs are a very recent thing as far as consumer lighting in traditional screw-in bulb form goes.

           Until and unless computers are all using SSDs, the biggest stress on HDDs is generally at boot time.  So computers do tend to "pop" when turned off and on far more often than when in continuous use.  Unfortunately, I still see that all the time.   Almost all of my service calls for dead machines are secondary to either power supply failure or HDD failure that comes when the owner tries to power up their machine.  There's no way of knowing whether the failure occurred during the previous power down, or the actual power up, but it's one of the two.

            The issue of power savings is a thing of its own, and does deserve consideration.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: respecting leaving computers on, or not

Dave
 

Speaking of Power Drain, I've been curious, what sort of Power does an I7 chip with a 500 watt power supply require? 


Which draws more, the Computer, or the refrigerator?


Grumpy Dave



On 8/27/2020 11:13 AM, Geoff Eden wrote:
Good afternoon, mechanical hard drives, you make a case! Not only is there a large current draw for startup, but you are essentially rolling on dry bearings for a few revolutions until their floating design puts the platter spindle airborne.
 
During boot up the head rack also gets a good workout.
 
I'm all SSD here, but my avarice kicks in when viewing the monthly electric bill. So I still turn my computers off, at least, most of the time.
 
Geoff
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] respecting leaving computers on, or not
 
Geoff,

          I don't think that most of us think of LEDs as "light bulbs" in the conventional sense, and you're 100% correct on the difference between them and incandescents, which is what was being referred to at the time that quotation was written.  True LED bulbs are a very recent thing as far as consumer lighting in traditional screw-in bulb form goes.

           Until and unless computers are all using SSDs, the biggest stress on HDDs is generally at boot time.  So computers do tend to "pop" when turned off and on far more often than when in continuous use.  Unfortunately, I still see that all the time.   Almost all of my service calls for dead machines are secondary to either power supply failure or HDD failure that comes when the owner tries to power up their machine.  There's no way of knowing whether the failure occurred during the previous power down, or the actual power up, but it's one of the two.

            The issue of power savings is a thing of its own, and does deserve consideration.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com

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