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Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

<smiling> Thanks, Brian. Those of us who have been on the net for ages have learned through hard experience how to treat stuff like this. Dunnow what your background is, but I've been on the net since I joined the bulletin board system in 1989. My first computer was a Zenith 151 with 10MB of disk space. No, that's not a typo.

Always best to have control over what your computer does. Windows has become better about not making arbitrary decisions about what you want or don't want, but sometimes you have to speak firmly and take action.

I remember becoming absolutely insensed with Win98 one day what I was searching for a file. The computer put me through a huge dialog which asked how big the file was, when it was created, what kind it was and on and on. I finally got to the end of the dialog and the computer said, "Do you want to find this file now?" I started screaming! When else would I want the blankity-blank file, next Tuesday? Things have definitely improved since then.

Have a great day!

Ann P.


Original message:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:

save whatever file it is and run it yourself.
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Ann, Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!
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"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
need recommendation for a multidevice battery charger

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I need recommendations for something that I can charge multiple devices at once with. I just got my electricity back on about an hour ago after it was off since Wednesday night during the hurricane, and the only chargers I had would only charge one device at a time and my mom and I each needed to charge our phones every night. I need something that will charge at least 2 devices at a time then but more than that would be okay too.

Thanks.

Troy
Re: Question About Desktop

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Shelly,

Bear in mind that items on your desktop are not always going to be arranged vertically and so just using up or down arrow won't guarantee that you'll see all of the available items. Press the home key to move to the first item and then press right arrow and you may find the other items.

Pressing the Delete key should allow you to delete **most** items on your desktop.

I would advise users to not have downloaded items go to your desktop. You're free to do that, of course, but over time your desktop will become extremely cluttered and it may become more difficult to locate the downloaded item you want to find.

To open your downloads folder, press the Windows key to open the start menu.

Begin typing the word "downloads" without the quotes and you will likely find the Downloads folder in the search results. In fact, the downloads folder may well be the first item that you hear and, if this is the case, press enter to open it.

What I do is to have a shortcut to the downloads folder on my desktop and I also assign a shortcut key, such as control-alt-D, to open it. That way I still have quick access to that folder without cluttering the desktop. Let us know if you need the steps to do this and we'll be happy to help.

Are you using Windows 10?


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 8/29/2020 4:11 PM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Everyone:


I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop open and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can only see seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I delete a program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to the download folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to desktop but someone told me some of them may be in the downloads folder.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly
Question About Desktop

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Everyone:


I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop open and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can only see seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I delete a program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to the download folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to desktop but someone told me some of them may be in the downloads folder.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
save whatever file it is and run it yourself.
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Ann, Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!

Microsoft disabled the autorun feature because of the disasters caused when it was active.  Even though security suites are supposed to scan (and do scan) executable files and zip files on download, it is always safer to download them and continue the process yourself.

Even in browsers that allow me to choose an option to run when download finishes, I never do, and that's because I've seen what can result.  I will sometimes even run a downloaded executable through a virustotal.com scan afterward, but before ever triggering it.  Those few minutes and steps can save a world of hurt.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Ann Parsons
 

Morning all,

I wouldn't change FF's options at all! It is always, always, always safer to download an executable file rather than to run it. Some of the little applets for conferencing software like to have you run them rather than save them, but you don't have to do that. If you download the executable file, you will have a copy of it in case your computer goes south, you can upload the file to Dropbox or wherever you save files. I don't know what instructions you're reading, but save whatever file it is and run it yourself. Don't let your computer control you, you control your computer.

Ann P.

P.S., It's always courteous to sign your posts. It allows people who reply to you to address you by name instead of saying, "Hey you!"



Original message:

Hi,

As I understand it, there are times when a Windows app needs to be run
directly in order to follow online instructions.  I have set firefox to
save, rather than open, an app I want to download, but I don't
understand how to revert to have the option to open it again.  With the
latest Windows and Firefox update, how do I reset this option?
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,


As I understand it, there are times when a Windows app needs to be run directly in order to follow online instructions.  I have set firefox to save, rather than open, an app I want to download, but I don't understand how to revert to have the option to open it again.  With the latest Windows and Firefox update, how do I reset this option?
Re: two items

Gene
 

What does the phrase subject line mean? It means what it says. Its ;purpose is to describe what a message is about, the subject. A question, help, a curious problem, and so many others don't do so. Your need for help or whether a problem seems curious to you or whether you are going to ask a question tells us nothing meaningful about the subject. Its as though an author wrote a mystery novel about a crime committed in some city or other and named it a novel. His ;publisher wouldn't allow it.

Examples of good subject lines are, can't follow links using Firefox, A problem using Pontes Media Player, how do you hear audio description using Netflix, and so on.

Even if you aren't that good at writing subject lines, it would be far better to write an awkward one describing the subject than something like Help.

It is so widespread to use meaningless subject lines that I've never seen standards enforced on the lists I'm on for writing them. At the same time, messages like that below mine, now and then, help remind and inform members of what a subject line should be.

You are both being considerate of others and making it more likely that you will get good help from more people because many people decide what to read solely on the basis of the subject line.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Berrier
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

I have a suggestion regarding subject lines. Instead of using a subject
like "Two items", it's better to use a meaningful subject line that hints at
the question you're going to ask. That way people can choose not to read the
message if they don't have anything to add. It might be better to send a
separate message for each item with a descriptive subject line for each.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

You won't find Eye-D Pro. You'll find Eye-D. Once it is installed, you have
the chance to upgrade.

Had I not done it, the music wouldn't be the problem it is now.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: gbmagoo@gmail.com
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items



Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn't
see it I'm curious and then maybe I can help you thanks
On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

?Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which
is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY
Re: two items

Jerry Berrier
 

I have a suggestion regarding subject lines. Instead of using a subject
like "Two items", it's better to use a meaningful subject line that hints at
the question you're going to ask. That way people can choose not to read the
message if they don't have anything to add. It might be better to send a
separate message for each item with a descriptive subject line for each.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

You won't find Eye-D Pro. You'll find Eye-D. Once it is installed, you have
the chance to upgrade.

Had I not done it, the music wouldn't be the problem it is now.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: gbmagoo@gmail.com
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items



Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn't
see it I'm curious and then maybe I can help you thanks
On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

?Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which
is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY
Re: JAWS jumping out of edit boxes

Gene
 

Use JAWS key z, when you are at the edit field to turn the virtual PC cursor off. Then, when you are finished working with the edit field, use the same command to turn it on again. Using enter to enter forms mode instead may allow you to return to the virtual PC cursor when you don't want to if the edit field refreshes as you type. JAWS key z won't allow this.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Holly
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 4:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS jumping out of edit boxes

Hi group:

I just saw, on a JAWS list, that some people were having issues with JAWS
jumping out of edit boxes while typing.

I had this problem awhile ago on the Costco website and I think Gene told me
the workaround, but I have forgotten.

If someone could post the solution, I will pass it on.

Thanks.
Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Mike B
 


Running Windows 10 2004 (OS Build 19041.450), after inserting the disk into the drive, holding the Shift key then closing the tray kept the drive from starting and I could then read the disk contents in File Explorer.  This also still works in Windows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Thanks Brian, I think I got it now, thanks to Norma.  And to others, holding the shift key didn't work.

Thanks to all who helped.
Howard

On 8/28/2020 12:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What version of Windows is in use here?    I agree that Autoplay is involved.

If you are using Windows 10, go to Settings, Devices, Autoplay and if Autoplay is on, take a look at what the default action is for Removable Drives.  You'll probably want to reset it to either ask me every time or to open folder to view files (File Explorer).

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: Replying to sender

Abbie Taylor
 

Another alternative is to click on a link in the message that says something like "Read and respond online." This will take you to a website where the message and responses are displayed. You'll find options to reply to group and sender there. I hope that helps.
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 
Re: Victor Stream language question

Steven Johnson
 



Hi John. I appreciate your help, this is a really easy fix. Have a good day. Thanks again. Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:25 PM, John Dowling <1008jmd@...> wrote:

If the gentleman goes to humanware's site, and goes to support, then selects VictorReader Stream 2nd generation, he can download a language file that he has to put in the root of his sd card, power down the stream, and then put the sd card with the correct language file on it, and then power the stream back on. It should update with the new language.
HTH,
John.
Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones,  you'll start having positive results. -Willie Nelson

On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...> wrote:



Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
Re: Victor Stream language question

John Dowling <1008jmd@...>
 

If the gentleman goes to humanware's site, and goes to support, then selects VictorReader Stream 2nd generation, he can download a language file that he has to put in the root of his sd card, power down the stream, and then put the sd card with the correct language file on it, and then power the stream back on. It should update with the new language.
HTH,
John.
Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones,  you'll start having positive results. -Willie Nelson

On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...> wrote:



Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
Victor Stream language question

Steven Johnson
 

Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
JAWS jumping out of edit boxes

Holly
 

Hi group:

I just saw, on a JAWS list, that some people were having issues with JAWS jumping out of edit boxes while typing.

I had this problem awhile ago on the Costco website and I think Gene told me the workaround, but I have forgotten.

If someone could post the solution, I will pass it on.

Thanks.
Re: Test message

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 04:50 PM, Gene wrote:
The address of the message sender wouldn't be shown.
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Unless it were to be included by the author in the body or signature text and the person reading via the web interface is logged in when reading.   Whatever it is that is represented by the . . . in the two examples in Laz's test message would be written out in their entirety.  But if someone includes an e-mail address in a signature the presumption is that it will be visible to all recipients to begin with.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: Test message

Gene
 

I just checked the available settings. While I wasn't going to show the addresses of \those sending messages, that isn't an option. In other words, Groups.io allows you to have e-mail addresses someone writes in the message body shown or not shown. It never allows the addresses of those appearing in the from line of messages to be shown.

The proposed change would allow addresses a member might write in the message body to be shown, such as the address of a Brailler repair business. The address of the message sender wouldn't be shown.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:04 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Test message

As the setting is now, even the email address in my signature wasn't
shown in full.

Stay well,

Laz

On 8/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular e-mail address isn't shown. It sounds like a reasonable change

to make, though it will be of little benefit.

The only possible problem I see is that now and then, someone asks on list
if someone has the e-mail address of a person or someone puts their address

in a message if they want messages sent to them off list. I'm not sure that

matters since it is unlikely such information would come up in the kinds of

searches of archives people would be expected to do, but you never know if
rarely or very rarely, something might come up.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Test message

To join the BlindAds list just send a blank email message to the
following email address,

BlindAds+subscribe@groups.io

here's a website,

www.talkingmp3players.com

and here is a regular email address,

Laz@talkingmp3players.com

The above was just a test. You may now return to your regularly
scheduled program.

Laz

--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr







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Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
Re: Admin. A possible change to list settings

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 03:57 PM, Gene wrote:
Now and then, someone sends a message asking if anyone knows the e-mail address of someone a member is trying to contact who is a person, not a business.
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And, ideally, that sort of reply should occur in private anyway.  While I'm willing to share e-mail addresses of people I know with people I know, and where I'm as certain as can be that no objections would be raised, I'd never post same on a public list.

If we fix the "Reply to Sender" not showing at the bottom of TechTalk messages, that will be much, much easier to do, too.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: Test message

Laz
 

As the setting is now, even the email address in my signature wasn't
shown in full.

Stay well,

Laz

On 8/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular e-mail address isn't shown. It sounds like a reasonable change

to make, though it will be of little benefit.

The only possible problem I see is that now and then, someone asks on list
if someone has the e-mail address of a person or someone puts their address

in a message if they want messages sent to them off list. I'm not sure that

matters since it is unlikely such information would come up in the kinds of

searches of archives people would be expected to do, but you never know if
rarely or very rarely, something might come up.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Test message

To join the BlindAds list just send a blank email message to the
following email address,

BlindAds+subscribe@groups.io

here's a website,

www.talkingmp3players.com

and here is a regular email address,

Laz@talkingmp3players.com

The above was just a test. You may now return to your regularly
scheduled program.

Laz

--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr






--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
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