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Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Gene
 

That question was just a substitution for an ok button or a find now button and was a consumer device to appear friendly. Its not worth getting angry about, just as its not worth getting angry or annoyed when you call an automated phone system and it pretends to be a person, though the phoniness of it bothers me when it says things like I'll just look that up, as though its an overly friendly person, or it thanks me for calling when it doesn't even know I called or the phony pretense of the system pressing computer keys while its doing something.

These days file find in Windows is more automated but I suspect that is because programming is more sophisticated and because the programmers didn't want the much less powerful computers in the old days to get sluggish or unresponsive by automatically starting a search before you said to start.
I'm not sure Windows is better or worse in offering you to do things or to do them automatically and I'm not sure Windows programs are much different.

Browsers are more automated, they open more file types such as PDF in the browser unless you tell them not to.

It may be that people who use more programs than I do will disagree, but I haven't seen a lot more automation in general in programs or Windows.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Hi all,

<smiling> Thanks, Brian. Those of us who have been on the net for
ages have learned through hard experience how to treat stuff like this.
Dunnow what your background is, but I've been on the net since I joined
the bulletin board system in 1989. My first computer was a Zenith 151
with 10MB of disk space. No, that's not a typo.

Always best to have control over what your computer does. Windows has
become better about not making arbitrary decisions about what you want
or don't want, but sometimes you have to speak firmly and take action.

I remember becoming absolutely insensed with Win98 one day what I was
searching for a file. The computer put me through a huge dialog which
asked how big the file was, when it was created, what kind it was and
on and on. I finally got to the end of the dialog and the computer
said, "Do you want to find this file now?" I started screaming! When
else would I want the blankity-blank file, next Tuesday? Things have
definitely improved since then.

Have a great day!

Ann P.


Original message:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:

save whatever file it is and run it yourself.
-
Ann, Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Howard Traxler
 

Right Ann:
Don't let your computer control you, you control your computer.
but before that, just let microsoft tell you how much of your computer they will let you control.

Howard

On 8/29/2020 11:03 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Morning all,

I wouldn't change FF's options at all!  It is always, always, always safer to download an executable file rather than to run it.  Some of the little applets for conferencing software like to have you run them rather than save them, but you don't have to do that.  If you download the executable file, you will have a copy of it in case your computer goes south, you can upload the file to Dropbox or wherever you save files.  I don't know what instructions you're reading, but save whatever file it is and run it yourself.  Don't let your computer control you, you control your computer.

Ann P.

P.S., It's always courteous to sign your posts.  It allows people who reply to you to address you by name instead of saying, "Hey you!"



Original message:
Hi,

As I understand it, there are times when a Windows app needs to be run
directly in order to follow online instructions.  I have set firefox to
save, rather than open, an app I want to download, but I don't
understand how to revert to have the option to open it again. With the
latest Windows and Firefox update, how do I reset this option?
Re: Question About Desktop

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Excellent post, didn't know you could assign a hotkey to open a folder, is that option in properties, David?

Ann P.


Original message:

Shelly,
Bear in mind that items on your desktop are not always going to be
arranged vertically and so just using up or down arrow won't guarantee
that you'll see all of the available items. Press the home key to move
to the first item and then press right arrow and you may find the other
items.
Pressing the Delete key should allow you to delete **most** items on
your desktop.
I would advise users to not have downloaded items go to your desktop.
You're free to do that, of course, but over time your desktop will
become extremely cluttered and it may become more difficult to locate
the downloaded item you want to find.
To open your downloads folder, press the Windows key to open the start menu.
Begin typing the word "downloads" without the quotes and you will likely
find the Downloads folder in the search results. In fact, the downloads
folder may well be the first item that you hear and, if this is the
case, press enter to open it.
What I do is to have a shortcut to the downloads folder on my desktop
and I also assign a shortcut key, such as control-alt-D, to open it.
That way I still have quick access to that folder without cluttering the
desktop. Let us know if you need the steps to do this and we'll be happy
to help.
Are you using Windows 10?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 8/29/2020 4:11 PM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Everyone:

I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop
open and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can
only see seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I
delete a program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to
the download folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to
desktop but someone told me some of them may be in the downloads
folder.  Thanks in advance.
Shelly




--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Re: Question About Desktop

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Shelly, what operating system are you running? It depends on what OS you're running as to where the downloads folder is. Before I explain how to find your downloads folder, which is where all programs put files unless you tell them differently, I want to explain your desktop to you.

Don't know where you got your training, but whomever it was did a poor job in this area. Your desktop is a list view, but it is displayed in columns and rows. Have you ever seen a bulletin board with pictures and announcements and so on placed in columns and rows on it? There will be a picture, and below that will be the menu for the kids' lunches at school, to the right of the picture will be Martha's drawing of Spot the Dog and so on. That's what your desktop looks like. So, if you want to see items 8-14, use your right arrow key to move to the second column of icons. You can always use first letter navigation too, which is sometimes more efficient.

As for the downloads folder, that depends on the OS. If it's win10, it's in 'this PC'. If it's Win7, look in 'computer' at: c:\users\name\downloads\.

Ann P.


Original message:

        Hi Everyone:

I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop open
and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can only see
seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I delete a
program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to the download
folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to desktop but
someone told me some of them may be in the downloads folder.  Thanks in
advance.
Shelly

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Re: need recommendation for a multidevice battery charger

Norman
 

Hello.

You need something like this.

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Charging-Multiple-Compatible/dp/B00OQ19QYA/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=multi+device+usb+charger%3F&qid=1598731775&sr=8-3


HTH.

On 8/29/2020 2:23 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,

I need recommendations for something that I can charge multiple devices at once with. I just got my electricity back on about an hour ago after it was off since Wednesday night during the hurricane, and the only chargers I had would only charge one device at a time and my mom and I each needed to charge our phones every night. I need something that will charge at least 2 devices at a time then but more than that would be okay too.

Thanks.

Troy
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

<smiling> Thanks, Brian. Those of us who have been on the net for ages have learned through hard experience how to treat stuff like this. Dunnow what your background is, but I've been on the net since I joined the bulletin board system in 1989. My first computer was a Zenith 151 with 10MB of disk space. No, that's not a typo.

Always best to have control over what your computer does. Windows has become better about not making arbitrary decisions about what you want or don't want, but sometimes you have to speak firmly and take action.

I remember becoming absolutely insensed with Win98 one day what I was searching for a file. The computer put me through a huge dialog which asked how big the file was, when it was created, what kind it was and on and on. I finally got to the end of the dialog and the computer said, "Do you want to find this file now?" I started screaming! When else would I want the blankity-blank file, next Tuesday? Things have definitely improved since then.

Have a great day!

Ann P.


Original message:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:

save whatever file it is and run it yourself.
-
Ann, Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
need recommendation for a multidevice battery charger

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I need recommendations for something that I can charge multiple devices at once with. I just got my electricity back on about an hour ago after it was off since Wednesday night during the hurricane, and the only chargers I had would only charge one device at a time and my mom and I each needed to charge our phones every night. I need something that will charge at least 2 devices at a time then but more than that would be okay too.

Thanks.

Troy
Re: Question About Desktop

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Shelly,

Bear in mind that items on your desktop are not always going to be arranged vertically and so just using up or down arrow won't guarantee that you'll see all of the available items. Press the home key to move to the first item and then press right arrow and you may find the other items.

Pressing the Delete key should allow you to delete **most** items on your desktop.

I would advise users to not have downloaded items go to your desktop. You're free to do that, of course, but over time your desktop will become extremely cluttered and it may become more difficult to locate the downloaded item you want to find.

To open your downloads folder, press the Windows key to open the start menu.

Begin typing the word "downloads" without the quotes and you will likely find the Downloads folder in the search results. In fact, the downloads folder may well be the first item that you hear and, if this is the case, press enter to open it.

What I do is to have a shortcut to the downloads folder on my desktop and I also assign a shortcut key, such as control-alt-D, to open it. That way I still have quick access to that folder without cluttering the desktop. Let us know if you need the steps to do this and we'll be happy to help.

Are you using Windows 10?


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 8/29/2020 4:11 PM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Everyone:


I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop open and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can only see seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I delete a program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to the download folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to desktop but someone told me some of them may be in the downloads folder.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly
Question About Desktop

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Everyone:


I was wondering if anyone can tell me that when I have the desktop open and I can see all of my programs, I have 11 in there but I can only see seven.  How do I get Jaws to read the others? Also, how do I delete a program from the desktop?  One more thing, how do I get to the download folder?  I usually have all of my programs go right to desktop but someone told me some of them may be in the downloads folder.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
save whatever file it is and run it yourself.
-
Ann, Amen, Amen, AMEN!!!

Microsoft disabled the autorun feature because of the disasters caused when it was active.  Even though security suites are supposed to scan (and do scan) executable files and zip files on download, it is always safer to download them and continue the process yourself.

Even in browsers that allow me to choose an option to run when download finishes, I never do, and that's because I've seen what can result.  I will sometimes even run a downloaded executable through a virustotal.com scan afterward, but before ever triggering it.  Those few minutes and steps can save a world of hurt.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Ann Parsons
 

Morning all,

I wouldn't change FF's options at all! It is always, always, always safer to download an executable file rather than to run it. Some of the little applets for conferencing software like to have you run them rather than save them, but you don't have to do that. If you download the executable file, you will have a copy of it in case your computer goes south, you can upload the file to Dropbox or wherever you save files. I don't know what instructions you're reading, but save whatever file it is and run it yourself. Don't let your computer control you, you control your computer.

Ann P.

P.S., It's always courteous to sign your posts. It allows people who reply to you to address you by name instead of saying, "Hey you!"



Original message:

Hi,

As I understand it, there are times when a Windows app needs to be run
directly in order to follow online instructions.  I have set firefox to
save, rather than open, an app I want to download, but I don't
understand how to revert to have the option to open it again.  With the
latest Windows and Firefox update, how do I reset this option?
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
How to make Firefox let me choose to run rather than save a download?

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,


As I understand it, there are times when a Windows app needs to be run directly in order to follow online instructions.  I have set firefox to save, rather than open, an app I want to download, but I don't understand how to revert to have the option to open it again.  With the latest Windows and Firefox update, how do I reset this option?
Re: two items

Gene
 

What does the phrase subject line mean? It means what it says. Its ;purpose is to describe what a message is about, the subject. A question, help, a curious problem, and so many others don't do so. Your need for help or whether a problem seems curious to you or whether you are going to ask a question tells us nothing meaningful about the subject. Its as though an author wrote a mystery novel about a crime committed in some city or other and named it a novel. His ;publisher wouldn't allow it.

Examples of good subject lines are, can't follow links using Firefox, A problem using Pontes Media Player, how do you hear audio description using Netflix, and so on.

Even if you aren't that good at writing subject lines, it would be far better to write an awkward one describing the subject than something like Help.

It is so widespread to use meaningless subject lines that I've never seen standards enforced on the lists I'm on for writing them. At the same time, messages like that below mine, now and then, help remind and inform members of what a subject line should be.

You are both being considerate of others and making it more likely that you will get good help from more people because many people decide what to read solely on the basis of the subject line.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Berrier
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

I have a suggestion regarding subject lines. Instead of using a subject
like "Two items", it's better to use a meaningful subject line that hints at
the question you're going to ask. That way people can choose not to read the
message if they don't have anything to add. It might be better to send a
separate message for each item with a descriptive subject line for each.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

You won't find Eye-D Pro. You'll find Eye-D. Once it is installed, you have
the chance to upgrade.

Had I not done it, the music wouldn't be the problem it is now.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: gbmagoo@gmail.com
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items



Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn't
see it I'm curious and then maybe I can help you thanks
On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

?Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which
is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY
Re: two items

Jerry Berrier
 

I have a suggestion regarding subject lines. Instead of using a subject
like "Two items", it's better to use a meaningful subject line that hints at
the question you're going to ask. That way people can choose not to read the
message if they don't have anything to add. It might be better to send a
separate message for each item with a descriptive subject line for each.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items

You won't find Eye-D Pro. You'll find Eye-D. Once it is installed, you have
the chance to upgrade.

Had I not done it, the music wouldn't be the problem it is now.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: gbmagoo@gmail.com
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] two items



Good morning what is ID Pro I did a search for in the App Store and didn't
see it I'm curious and then maybe I can help you thanks
On Aug 28, 2020, at 07:28, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

?Good morning,

I have two questions:

1. Is there a list for Iphone users?

I have Eye-d Pro on my Iphone. When it opens, there is loud music which
is much louder than the voiceover speech.

Is there a way to turn off the music?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Joe Giovanellli, W2PVY
Re: JAWS jumping out of edit boxes

Gene
 

Use JAWS key z, when you are at the edit field to turn the virtual PC cursor off. Then, when you are finished working with the edit field, use the same command to turn it on again. Using enter to enter forms mode instead may allow you to return to the virtual PC cursor when you don't want to if the edit field refreshes as you type. JAWS key z won't allow this.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Holly
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 4:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS jumping out of edit boxes

Hi group:

I just saw, on a JAWS list, that some people were having issues with JAWS
jumping out of edit boxes while typing.

I had this problem awhile ago on the Costco website and I think Gene told me
the workaround, but I have forgotten.

If someone could post the solution, I will pass it on.

Thanks.
Re: Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Mike B.
 


Running Windows 10 2004 (OS Build 19041.450), after inserting the disk into the drive, holding the Shift key then closing the tray kept the drive from starting and I could then read the disk contents in File Explorer.  This also still works in Windows 7.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listing the contents of a CD or DVD

Thanks Brian, I think I got it now, thanks to Norma.  And to others, holding the shift key didn't work.

Thanks to all who helped.
Howard

On 8/28/2020 12:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What version of Windows is in use here?    I agree that Autoplay is involved.

If you are using Windows 10, go to Settings, Devices, Autoplay and if Autoplay is on, take a look at what the default action is for Removable Drives.  You'll probably want to reset it to either ask me every time or to open folder to view files (File Explorer).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
Re: Replying to sender

Abbie Taylor
 

Another alternative is to click on a link in the message that says something like "Read and respond online." This will take you to a website where the message and responses are displayed. You'll find options to reply to group and sender there. I hope that helps.
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 
Re: Victor Stream language question

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 



Hi John. I appreciate your help, this is a really easy fix. Have a good day. Thanks again. Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:25 PM, John Dowling <1008jmd@...> wrote:

If the gentleman goes to humanware's site, and goes to support, then selects VictorReader Stream 2nd generation, he can download a language file that he has to put in the root of his sd card, power down the stream, and then put the sd card with the correct language file on it, and then power the stream back on. It should update with the new language.
HTH,
John.
Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones,  you'll start having positive results. -Willie Nelson

On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...> wrote:



Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
Re: Victor Stream language question

John Dowling <1008jmd@...>
 

If the gentleman goes to humanware's site, and goes to support, then selects VictorReader Stream 2nd generation, he can download a language file that he has to put in the root of his sd card, power down the stream, and then put the sd card with the correct language file on it, and then power the stream back on. It should update with the new language.
HTH,
John.
Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones,  you'll start having positive results. -Willie Nelson

On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...> wrote:



Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
Victor Stream language question

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 

Good day everyone.  I have a chance to purchase a used Second Generation Victor for an unbeatable price, but the gentleman says that it is “stuck speaking French.”  Can the Victor’s default language be changed to American or Australian English by us users, or does Humanware have to do that?
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