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Re: Accessible terminal program
Rick Alfaro
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.
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Warmest regards Rick Alfaro
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications? Thanks Frank Ventura
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Accessible terminal program
Frank Ventura
Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks Frank Ventura
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Re: Maps
Try APH.
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73 N2DYN Angelo
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy Hill Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:11 AM To: TechTalk Subject: [TechTalk] Maps All, I am hoping to find someplace where I can get a map of the United States. I want one I can touch and see the relationship of the states to one another. Does anyone know of such a product or can you give me an idea of where to look? Thanks for your help, Nancy
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Re: a good computer microphone
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Chief Gene, I have the Logitech H800; the H600 will also fit the bill and a
bit cheaper. Both come with USB dongles and I generally refer to these as Plug-&-Forget! The H800 supports bluetooth; however, as is the case with several Logitech toys, one has to type in a PARING CODE on the bluetooth side of things. That I don't quite appreciate, so, I never did any bluetooth paring of my H800 toy. Oh, they are over the ear headsets with a swivel microphone. My toy lasts about six hours from each charge. Never had any problems using my toy for Zoom and similarly situated services. Where to find either one? Well, start with the obvious: amazon.com/ Hope this helps. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado
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Re: Maps
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tactile+US+map+for+blind
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Maps
Nancy Hill
All, I am hoping to find someplace where I can get a map of the United States. I want one I can touch and see the relationship of the states to one another. Does anyone know of such a product or can you give me an idea of where to look?
Thanks for your help, Nancy
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a good computer microphone
Gene
A friend wants suggestions for a good computer microphone. In particular, he wants to know what people may prefer to use with Zoom. I think he will use either a USB microphone or a 3.5mm microphone. My impression is that he wants one in the twenty to thirty dollar range, but if people prefer more expensive ones, perhaps in the forty or fifty dollar range, he might consider one.
Thanks in advance for information. Gene
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Solitaire for Windows 7
Jim Wohlgamuth
Hi There FOLKS! As the subject states I'm looking for Solitaire for Windows7. This particular version seems to work the best with Jaws on my Win10 machine. Any suggestions would be greatly APPRECIATED! Thanks and Have A Great Day! de <wohlggie@...><KF8LT><Jim
Wohlgamuth>.
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Re: Seeking info on a Bluetooth dongle for VR Stream
Norma A. Boge
Hi Laz, Thanks much for the info, much appreciated. Best, Norma
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 10:30 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Seeking info on a Bluetooth dongle for VR Stream Hi Norma, You'llbe hard pressed to find one that doesn't have those pretty little lights and has speech instead. AFAIK there are none that have speech feedback unless of course someone had the bright idea of including a tiny speaker in its design, but I doubt that. We include directions from a totally blind perspective which allows a totally blind person to use the ones we sell in an emailmessage. Below is the portable one we sell, Back instock! Portable Miccus Swivel Jack RTX Bluetooth transmitter/receiver for just $49.99! Perfect for making your Victor Stream or any other device with a headphone jack, able to connect to your Bluetooth headphones or speaker! Connect it to your computer's USB port and have it come through your Bluetooth headset or speaker! The receiver side speaks everything from power on through power off! It boasts a range of 100 Feet and much more... http://www.talkingmp3players.com/Miccus-Swivel-Jack-RTX-Bluetooth-TransmitterReceiver_p_18.html Stay well, Laz On 9/14/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote: Hi group, -- Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and accessories http://www.talkingmp3players.com/ Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com Phone: 727-498-0121 Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Gene
I don't know why people haven't asked on the list. I do know, simply as a matter of logic and common sense that the setting doubtless causes problems and inconvenience for a lot of users. A lot of people use Bookshare and a lot of people use NVDA.
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I'm not sure what you mean about me not taking the same attitude toward Windows. My attitude is that if people want to use Windows well, they have to learn a certain amount. If they only want to do a small number of things, they may need to learn little. Whether Windows or programs, intended for the general user, my contention is the same. Defaults should give the best experience for the unknowledgeable user. Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:19 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:53 PM, Gene wrote: Expecting most people to know such detailed and advanced information about NVDA or any program is utopian.- Indeed. Expecting it as a bit of common knowledge is. Expecting that someone would ask is not. Gene, you do not take this attitude toward Windows, or at least don't in my observation. The fact is that any screen reader, not just NVDA, is a wildly complicated piece of software with myriad options for customizing to suit the user. Unlike you, I'm not going to give the user a pass from any responsibility for exploring what their options are. There is no such thing, and I do speak from experience, as "the ideal default" because there are diverse needs in any user community. It is absolutely incumbent on the end user to show some small modicum of initiative as far as asking for assistance when something is not as they'd like it. No developer is, or can be, responsible for being all-knowing or all-seeing or for picking what you, or I, or any given individual would prefer as default settings. The defaults get picked, based on something, and it is and should be up to the end user to tweak as necessary. None of the above is to argue that there can be some obvious things that make more sense than others as far as defaults. But you've been on the NVDA group for years, and you know darned well that this has never been brought up as an issue over the last several years. You cannot tell me that you believe the members there are shy and retiring and would not be asking about this if it were a recurring issue for a wide number of users. If this is some change that came in with the latest version of NVDA, you can rest assured it will come up. But I, for one, am done with the idea that end users have no responsibility to learn about the tools they've chosen to use and to ask questions as needed. That is a minimum requirement. And before anyone trots out the old trope, "but they're not tech savvy," that's beside the point. We were all neophytes, once, at anything. It doesn't absolve us from asking for information we need or want. It's a complete cop-out. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:53 PM, Gene wrote:
Expecting most people to know such detailed and advanced information about NVDA or any program is utopian.- Indeed. Expecting it as a bit of common knowledge is. Expecting that someone would ask is not. Gene, you do not take this attitude toward Windows, or at least don't in my observation. The fact is that any screen reader, not just NVDA, is a wildly complicated piece of software with myriad options for customizing to suit the user. Unlike you, I'm not going to give the user a pass from any responsibility for exploring what their options are. There is no such thing, and I do speak from experience, as "the ideal default" because there are diverse needs in any user community. It is absolutely incumbent on the end user to show some small modicum of initiative as far as asking for assistance when something is not as they'd like it. No developer is, or can be, responsible for being all-knowing or all-seeing or for picking what you, or I, or any given individual would prefer as default settings. The defaults get picked, based on something, and it is and should be up to the end user to tweak as necessary. None of the above is to argue that there can be some obvious things that make more sense than others as far as defaults. But you've been on the NVDA group for years, and you know darned well that this has never been brought up as an issue over the last several years. You cannot tell me that you believe the members there are shy and retiring and would not be asking about this if it were a recurring issue for a wide number of users. If this is some change that came in with the latest version of NVDA, you can rest assured it will come up. But I, for one, am done with the idea that end users have no responsibility to learn about the tools they've chosen to use and to ask questions as needed. That is a minimum requirement. And before anyone trots out the old trope, "but they're not tech savvy," that's beside the point. We were all neophytes, once, at anything. It doesn't absolve us from asking for information we need or want. It's a complete cop-out. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: Bluetooth earbuds and wireless keyboards
DJ
how small is the keyboard?
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:21 PM Susie Stageberg <sstageberg2@...> wrote: I have a Logitech k380 keyboard that works really well with my phone. It
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Gene
Sometimes, when deciding on a default, logic and common sense should prevail. What advantage is their for people to hear page breaks announced if they are just reading a document, as most people will be doing and not editing? And what advantage is there for those editing? If people can tell me advantages, I'd be interested.
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Also, most people won't know how or where to change the NVDA setting. Expecting most people to know such detailed and advanced information about NVDA or any program is utopian. While having expectations is useful in various circumstances, there are times when it is a negative because it means that things won't be done based on what is when it is necessary or useful. there is no way that the multitude of NVDA users are going to be educated about this feature and saying they should know this or that doesn't solve the problem Changing this default setting should not be contraversial, though I suppose some people may argue against it. I have no reason to think the majority would and at times, as I said, changes should be made on the basis of logic and common sense. Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:33 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Gene wrote: When designing default settings, they should be designed to allow the best experience for the unknowledgeable user.- Gene, who determines what those are? There is always someone who will complain about any choice for a default setting. What you find marvelous and immensely useful others will find a grand PITA. There is seldom any default setting that is "ideal" because there is always someone (generally many someones) in the user base who want just the opposite. And, I'm sorry, but if people won't speak up and ask how to get what they want, in any area of life, they're not going to get it. Technology is no different than anything else, if it isn't doing what you want or need it to do you need to ask about how to change it. That's exactly what happened here, and is what should happen. For those that have a problem that is clearly a software bug or a feature request (or change to feature request) then it is incumbent upon them to communicate that to the developers, and NVAccess makes that incredibly easy with its GitHub templates for those purposes. I also have converted these to MS-Word, should anyone want the templates, so that you can take your time and compose the whole thing, at your leisure, in MS-Word and then just copy and paste the whole thing into GitHub when the time comes rather than even trying to edit the issue/feature request templates in a web browser. Getting help or change is a two-sided affair, at least if you want to try to get the change you want or need. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Gene wrote:
When designing default settings, they should be designed to allow the best experience for the unknowledgeable user.- Gene, who determines what those are? There is always someone who will complain about any choice for a default setting. What you find marvelous and immensely useful others will find a grand PITA. There is seldom any default setting that is "ideal" because there is always someone (generally many someones) in the user base who want just the opposite. And, I'm sorry, but if people won't speak up and ask how to get what they want, in any area of life, they're not going to get it. Technology is no different than anything else, if it isn't doing what you want or need it to do you need to ask about how to change it. That's exactly what happened here, and is what should happen. For those that have a problem that is clearly a software bug or a feature request (or change to feature request) then it is incumbent upon them to communicate that to the developers, and NVAccess makes that incredibly easy with its GitHub templates for those purposes. I also have converted these to MS-Word, should anyone want the templates, so that you can take your time and compose the whole thing, at your leisure, in MS-Word and then just copy and paste the whole thing into GitHub when the time comes rather than even trying to edit the issue/feature request templates in a web browser. Getting help or change is a two-sided affair, at least if you want to try to get the change you want or need. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Gene
It is a good assumption that it is a problem for a lot of people. How many people studhy the punctuation/symbol dialog enough to know that you can adjust the settings for page break there. Not many. As evidence, why were you the only one on the entire list to suggest it? I doubt that most NVDA users even know it exists. I knew it did, but I thought of it as a punctuation dialog not extending to the thousands of emoji and ASCII symbols present. I looked at it last in a very old version of NVDA and had only used it to look at punctuation settings.
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A lot of NVDA users don't study the screen-reader to know about this obscure feature or to know anything detailed about it. There are much more important aspects of NVDA a lot of people don't know about such as object navigation or add-ons. So why should they know about this obscure feature. I have almost never seen it discussed on the NVDA list and I've been on it for years. When designing default settings, they should be designed to allow the best experience for the unknowledgeable user. I really don't want to go through the trouble of learning how to submit a report on Github (spelling) just to submit this one problem when I almost never, if ever, would want to submit anything else. But it is a setting that should be changed. There must be a lot of users of Bookshare around the world who use NVDA and who don't want to hear page break. And many blind people may send scanned material to other blind people who use NVDA which they have scanned with an OCR program and converted to text or RTF. You probably don't see questions about it for the same reason you don't see questions much about other bad default settings, because a lot of people are intimidated by technology and will just accept it as it is. Gene
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From: Ann Parsons Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 10:52 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad Hi all, RE page-breaks and Bookshare: Bookshare requires that all books which are scanned by volunteers have hard page-breaks, and that each page be numbered. This is because of the conversion software which creates a DAISY book from the .rtf file which is submitted. Each of these books is marked up by pages. It is vital when proofing books for Bookshare that page-breaks be announced. Since you can turn the announcement off in NVDA, it shouldn't be a problem for folks. As I say, when material is put through either Open Book or Kurzie, it adds hard page-breaks as if each page were scanned individually. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Bluetooth earbuds and wireless keyboards
Susie Stageberg <sstageberg2@...>
I have a Logitech k380 keyboard that works really well with my phone. It
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doesn't have a Numpad, but I haven't felt the lack. Cost under $40 at Amazon. Susie "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor Roosevelt
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:20 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Bluetooth earbuds and wireless keyboards Good afternoon to everyone, I am in the market for Bluetooth earbuds and keyboards, does anyone have some good recommendations besides apples. Thank you Kathy
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Bluetooth earbuds and wireless keyboards
Kathy Pingstock
Good afternoon to everyone,
I am in the market for Bluetooth earbuds and keyboards, does anyone have some good recommendations besides apples. Thank you Kathy
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
RE page-breaks and Bookshare: Bookshare requires that all books which are scanned by volunteers have hard page-breaks, and that each page be numbered. This is because of the conversion software which creates a DAISY book from the .rtf file which is submitted. Each of these books is marked up by pages. It is vital when proofing books for Bookshare that page-breaks be announced. Since you can turn the announcement off in NVDA, it shouldn't be a problem for folks. As I say, when material is put through either Open Book or Kurzie, it adds hard page-breaks as if each page were scanned individually. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Seeking info on a Bluetooth dongle for VR Stream
Laz
Hi Norma,
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You'llbe hard pressed to find one that doesn't have those pretty little lights and has speech instead. AFAIK there are none that have speech feedback unless of course someone had the bright idea of including a tiny speaker in its design, but I doubt that. We include directions from a totally blind perspective which allows a totally blind person to use the ones we sell in an emailmessage. Below is the portable one we sell, Back instock! Portable Miccus Swivel Jack RTX Bluetooth transmitter/receiver for just $49.99! Perfect for making your Victor Stream or any other device with a headphone jack, able to connect to your Bluetooth headphones or speaker! Connect it to your computer's USB port and have it come through your Bluetooth headset or speaker! The receiver side speaks everything from power on through power off! It boasts a range of 100 Feet and much more... http://www.talkingmp3players.com/Miccus-Swivel-Jack-RTX-Bluetooth-TransmitterReceiver_p_18.html Stay well, Laz
On 9/14/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
Hi group, --
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and accessories http://www.talkingmp3players.com/ Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com Phone: 727-498-0121 Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:06 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
My thought is still that one needs to consult the NVDA list for the answer to this problem.- Which would have made the most sense. The dedicated screen-reader groups are there for just that reason and when in-depth digging is likely going to be necessary. So, for future reference: NVDA Group Email Addresses
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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