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CCleaner Now Has Screen Reader Support

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
For CCleaner users this might interest you and those don't use it because it didn't have screen reader support.
 
 
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Out Now: CCleaner v5.72, 
 
with better cleaning - plus screen reader support!
 
 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
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Office/Outlook spell check question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is something that can just be fixed for Outlook, or if it
has to be done for all Office programs. I don't even know if it can be fixed
period, but I hope that it can. Anyway, I'm running Windows 10, Jaws 18 and
Office/Outlook 2013. I have Outlook set to check spelling before sending a
message and sometimes I'm told that the dictionary language is English (Canada)
and other times it's in English (United States). When you tab to change or
ignore the error you go past a combo box where you're supposed to be able to
change the selected language using the arrow keys, but when I tried to do that
(it was on English United States) it just took me back to the inbox. So I'm
wondering, is there another way to change the dictionary language? Since I'm
Canadian I'd like to have it be set to Canadian English. The main Office program
that I use is Outlook so that's the main place where I'd like the dictionary
language changed, but if I have to or can change it in Word then that would be
nice too!! I hope that this makes sense, and that there's a easy/simple way to
change this. Look forward to any help/suggestions that any of you can provide!!
Thanks
Madison


JAWS2021 Beta2 Build, 2009.52.40, Download & Beta Report Form Links + What's New

Mike B
 


Hi All,
 
Below is the download link for both the 32 and 64 bit versions, a link to the Beta report form and what's new in this release.
 
 
32 and 64 Bit Download Link:
 
 
 
Beta Report Form Link:
 
 

Enhancements in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 Public Beta 2
 
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 1 and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
Automatic Message Reading in Outlook 365
 
When you open a message from the Inbox in Outlook 365, JAWS and Fusion will now immediately begin reading the message contents without reading the title
or header information. Currently, messages are not automatically read if you ALT+TAB to an open message, or you press ENTER on a message in the Inbox that
is already open.
 
To further customize how messages are read, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V) while in Outlook, search for "message," and configure any of the resulting options.
A few items you might want to change include:
 
list of 3 items
• Message Header Field with Message Announcement: Turn this option on if you want JAWS and Fusion to announce the sender's email address and the subject
of the message when a message opens or gains focus.
• Messages Automatically Read: Turn this option off if you do not want JAWS and Fusion to automatically read messages when they are opened.
• Speak Window Titles For Read-only Messages Automatically: Turn this option on if you want JAWS and Fusion to announce the title of the message window
when a message opens or gains focus.
list end
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2021 Public Beta 2
list of 13 items
• Added a new Settings Center and Quick Settings option called "Pan Text by Paragraph" which is off by default. When enabled, JAWS sends an entire paragraph
to the braille display instead of only the current line as you navigate web pages and documents. This can help improve the flow of reading when panning
through text as you are less likely to encounter large amounts of empty space on the display when you reach the end of a line. You should now only encounter
blank space if you reach the end of a paragraph, and you would move to the start of the next paragraph when panning again.
• While in a Zoom meeting, you can now press CTRL+SHIFT+T to find out who is currently talking. Zoom recently added this option with CTRL+2 but we were
previously using it for a JAWS feature.
• When using the Voice Assistant in JAWS, you can now quickly specify whether or not JAWS listens for the wake word by pressing INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR twice
quickly. Whether the wake word is on or off, you can always press this keystroke one time to have JAWS start listening for a voice command.
• In the Sound Control Panel applet, resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in the list views on the Playback and Recording pages.
• Addressed a reported issue where the JAWS settings Import/Export feature was not working as expected when using Windows folder redirection.
• The default graphics verbosity for JAWS is now to read only labeled graphics as it is no longer as important for JAWS to read graphics that are not labeled.
If you encounter a situation where you need to read unlabeled graphics, or you do not want to hear graphics at all, open Settings Center and search for
Graphics Verbosity.
• JAWS no longer automatically disables the "Show animations in windows" setting while running.
• Added five new Japanese voices to the Add/Remove Voices utility, which allows you to sample and download Vocalizer Expressive 2 voices for use with JAWS,
ZoomText, and Fusion.
• When using CTRL+DELETE or CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete by word in Office 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was too verbose.
• Resolved a reported issue with Windows 10 Insider Builds where Outlook becomes unusable with JAWS after leaving your system idle for a long period of
time.
• Resolved an issue where a user had over 200 entries in a JKM (Keyboard Manager) file, causing some commands to not work as expected. We now have extended
the number allowed.
• Fusion and JAWS 2021 will now interrupt reading when you press the WINDOWS Key to open the Start Menu.
• Resolved an issue with navigating to the configuration editor in Thunderbird Email when running JAWS or Fusion.
list end
 
Enhancements in ZoomText 2021 and Fusion 2021 Public Beta 2
list of 4 items
• When installing ZoomText 2021 or Fusion 2021, you can now migrate your settings from an older ZoomText or Fusion release (for example, releases 2020
or 2019) to the latest ZoomText 2021 release. This includes features such as magnification level, color, pointer, cursor, and mouse enhancements, and any
custom settings you created for applications.
• Resolved a ZoomText tracking issue in InfoConnect. This is an application used by IRS employees.
• Resolved several issues in Outlook 2016 and Outlook 365:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
◦ Focus enhancements and tracking now work correctly in the Select Names: Contacts dialog.
◦ The cursor enhancement is no longer visible while selecting text in a message.
◦ The cursor enhancement is now visible when you navigate to a link in a message.
◦ Addressed other focus enhancements issues when navigating various panes in Outlook 2016.
list end nesting level 1
• Voice Assistant can now be enabled or disabled using the Voice Assistant check box in the Startup Wizard.
list end

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!


Re: Trimming YouTube video

Angelo Sonnesso
 

YOU can use Windows photos before you upload it.
If you tab around you will find the video buttons.



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Trimming youtube video

Hi all
Do you know any accessible way to trim video after uploading to youtube?
This is a great feature, but screen reader user sounds not have the way
to set the selection point for trimming unwanted part if they forgot to
do that before uploading. I'm happy to recieve any help from you, either
using Jaws, NVDA, or android device.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Angelo Sonnesso
 

The Jaws scripts for Zoom use ctrl +2 for one of the announcements


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

I don't know why you would have to use the bypass command. JAWS shouldn't
use control 2 for anything. It isn't a standard screen-reader command and I

found out now that Outlook uses it for create an appointment.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Yes, Gene I am using CTRL 2, as it was listed in the list of keystrokes I
have.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
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Also, you may follow me on twitter:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for
a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like
Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Roger Cusson
 

It is very important to note: these key strokes can all be modified from
with in the zoom hot key dialog box

If u for example do not modify the control 2 keystroke, and u r running jaws
2020 or any version of jaws that has the built in standard zoom scripts, u
will sadly be disappointed.

That, plus the other nine keys from 1 through 0, when pressed in conjunction
with the ctrl key, will read the last 10 messages or room alerts, depending
on how u told the scripts to notify u of which events are happening.

I am not speaking about nvda here, I am simply saying that jaws zoom
pre-installed basic scrips, already have mapped ctrl plus 2, to read a
particular line of chat entry or room activity.

I have modified ctrl plus 2 via zoom's hot key modifying section, to ctrl
plus alt plus 2. Just remember to press escape in the dialog to save your
changes, if u modify any of the 60 or so zoom pre-default hotkeys, with your
own mappings.

So, ctrl 2, is now ctrl, alt 2, for reading current speaker name


Roger R. Cusson
Computer Access Specialist
Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine
Website: https://rogercusson.com
TEL: (207) 353-5007
Skype Contact: rcusson
 
A quote to live by:
"Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn't been tested properly!"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Seeking A Laser Printer

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I know this has been discussed in the past on this and other lists, but I am in the market for a color laser printer.  It has to be accessible which means some way of interacting other than the touch screen and voiceless screen on the printer itself.

I called Amazon disability which lists dozens of them. They couldn't help me a lot other than giving me the phone numbers for accessibility for Canon, Xerox and HP.

Here's what happened when I tried these phone numbers:
Xerox the number was disconnected
HP never answered--even after 5 hours on two separate phones
Canon answered and a woman with a heavily accented voice assured me that the one she referenced would do the trick. Color imageCLASS MF743Cdw. .  This device which it is a bit pricey at $379 US weighs in at a massive 64 pounds.  I would consider this more seriously if I could be sure I could lift and position it properly without collapsing my utility table.

So again as I may have done in the past, what are people using for a laser printer and how are they accessing it: app, voiced onboard touch screen, echo device?

Thanks for any help.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Chirp books

Monte Single
 

Thanks for the chirp info, Ann.
When I pay money for media that is stuck in the clouds will mean my mind has
been adversely affected.

Thanks,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: September 23, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chirp books

Hi all,

Chirp books are not free, but they are much less expensive than the usual
retail prices. What you see is a group of different books each day that are
greatly marked down. You have to purchase them to download them. Don't
think you can download them, you can play them on phone or iPad, but you
don't get the actual files. You play them in the cloud.

Ann P.

--
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Portal Tutoring
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Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Chirp books

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Chirp books are not free, but they are much less expensive than the usual retail prices. What you see is a group of different books each day that are greatly marked down. You have to purchase them to download them. Don't think you can download them, you can play them on phone or iPad, but you don't get the actual files. You play them in the cloud.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Chris G
 

Hello,

The JAWS scripts for Zoom use control-2 as well as the other ctrl number
keys.
I went into Zoom settings and keyboard and changed mine to ctrl-period.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

I don't know why you would have to use the bypass command. JAWS shouldn't
use control 2 for anything. It isn't a standard screen-reader command and I
found out now that Outlook uses it for create an appointment.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Yes, Gene I am using CTRL 2, as it was listed in the list of keystrokes I
have.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for
a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like
Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene
















































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Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Kimsan
 

Yeah, in outlook indeed it does that which I've known for years.
All I know is there are two commands in zoom I used today of which one
worked with the bypass command of course. CTRL 2 and the other key stroke I
used listed was Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting which
jaws didn't echo nothing.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

I don't know why you would have to use the bypass command. JAWS shouldn't
use control 2 for anything. It isn't a standard screen-reader command and I
found out now that Outlook uses it for create an appointment.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Yes, Gene I am using CTRL 2, as it was listed in the list of keystrokes I
have.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for
a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like
Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene
 

I don't know why you would have to use the bypass command. JAWS shouldn't use control 2 for anything. It isn't a standard screen-reader command and I found out now that Outlook uses it for create an appointment.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Yes, Gene I am using CTRL 2, as it was listed in the list of keystrokes I
have.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for
a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like
Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Kimsan
 

Yes, Gene I am using CTRL 2, as it was listed in the list of keystrokes I
have.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for
a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like
Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene
 

No, but are you using control 2? That would be a most unlikely command for a screen-reader to use, particularly since it is used in some programs like Windows Media Player to change where you are in the program.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Kimsan
 

Gene, Using NVDA, which I presume you used, did you have to do a bypass
command, I did for jaws.
I ask that because lol, someone spoke today and by the time I issued those
two keystrokes, they finished talking and I didn't catch the name.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted
friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking.
Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual
display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change
because sighted people already have the information. I assume the
screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to
force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene
 

The command is a Zoom command. it isn't a screen-reader command. A sighted friend told me there is a visual way the program shows who is speaking. Presumably, the underlying information the program uses for the visual display is accessible to the screen-reader. The screen doesn't change because sighted people already have the information. I assume the screen-reader is made to speak by the program using whatever it uses to force speech whenever an alert is spoken.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
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Also, you may follow me on twitter:
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Trimming youtube video

 

Hi all
Do you know any accessible way to trim video after uploading to youtube? This is a great feature, but screen reader user sounds not have the way to set the selection point for trimming unwanted part if they forgot to do that before uploading. I'm happy to recieve any help from you, either using Jaws, NVDA, or android device.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong


This week on Eyes On Success: Acesight Electronic eyeglasses

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This week’s episode of eyes On Success is:

2039 Acesight Electronic Eyeglasses (Sep. 23, 2020)
Show Notes
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Re: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Kimsan
 

Gene,
I forgot to ask since I am still trying to determine if this key stroke is
screen reader exclusive.
I have no one to test it on using NVDA but when using it in a meeting
earlier today at work using jaws latest, I had to evoke the bypass key then
press CTRL 2.
My coworkers who do not use any screen reader, it didn't work. Then again,
why would it, they don't need to hear who is talking, I suppose as they can
probably tell in another way?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Thanks to those who gave information. I tried control 2 in a test meeting
and it worked. I had looked at a list of shortcut keys in the past but
there are so many I thought it might be faster and easier to ask.

That's an important command for people to know. I often wonder who is
speaking in a meeting if I don't know the people or don't know them well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Or try ctrl 2.
I'm reading these from a list of commands posted on this list many moons
ago.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

To clarify, because I want my whole message in the message body in case
someone doesn't pay attention to the subject line, is there any way to have
Zoom announce who is talking? I haven't found one and nothing in the
description of the NVDA add-on says the add-on provides this ability.

I don't use JAWS anymore, but it would still be good to know if it can do
this.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to determine who is talking in Zoom?

Is there a way, either using JAWS or NVDA, to determine who is speaking? I
haven't seen any command to do so and when I've looked around the interface,
I see no way the screen-reader can tell you that.

Thanks for information.

Gene


Re: amazon prime video

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

She would have to install the Amazon Prime Video App and log in to it using the Prime Account.

It is impossible to briefly describe the search capabilities, video selection, and other aspects.  There are scads of tutorials on the Prime Video on the web.  Here is Amazon's own, and there are many others.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/splash/getTheApp/



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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

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