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Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Gene
 

While I don't have the technical knowledge to do more than speculate, it sounds as though if you could switch to another sound card when using the program, that might solve the problem. Perhaps JAWS is a little more dependent on the sound card being used. I suspect that NVDA uses some different ways of getting some information. I remember reading a number of years ago that the JAWS developers stuck with some older ways and that has caused some problems for them, though I would think it has benefits as well.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far



Regarding my last message, I forgot to mention that the tracking issue I referred to is totally non-existent if I use NVDA instead of JFW and the Jaws version is the latest 2020 build. I have not tried 2021 as of yet.













Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far





Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.



This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.



After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.



If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.











Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro


Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

This is in reference to the unusual behavior of Jaws thread. If it works in NVDA, then use NVDA. One very good reason why having more than one screen reader is a must.

Ann P.

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Re: NLS cartridges and BARD

Carolyn Arnold
 

Yes, and you can do the same with the cartridge to the
Victor Reader Stream itself.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartridges and BARD

You get a USB cable that has a Male end, which plugs into
the computer, and a Female end which then plugs into the
male end on the NLS cartridge.




A simple Birds and Bees answer.




Grumpy Dave







On 10/15/2020 10:02 AM, Steven Johnson wrote:


Good day everyone. To connect a blank NLS cartridge
to a PC, what type of USB cable is used? I feel kind of
silly for asking because I feel what appears to be a male
standard USB port on the cartridge, but how in the wide
world of sports would you get an OTG cable on to that thing?


Re: 5g and me

enes sarıbaş
 

and it does. What is the purpose of earning money if not to spend it on things that improve your quality of life?  Also, windows 7 systems not running 10 is incorrect. Only computers before the vista era  aren't able to handle 10.

On 10/15/2020 8:23 AM, Monte Single wrote:
Gene,

Your sstatements about computer useage and hardware may all be correct.
That fact is that another 500 or 1000 dollars to a fairly large per centage of the population, doesn't matter. Tey feel that spending more money will serve them better.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October 15, 2020 5:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

I've seen others, and I believe you, too, make the future proof argument for buying a more powerful computer than the person's anticipated needs because it will be useful longer because you never know when your needs will change.
I've always thought such arguments were not good ones. For one thing, a lot of people will continue to use computers in about the same ways as now and if they do use them in more demanding ways, those will not likely tax the computer if they buy a computer that isn't just barely powerful enough to do what they want.

Also, technology continues to become more powerful and cost less. So, in five years, the projected reliable life of a computer, you will be able to buy one to meet your needs then for less money than you are paying now. In addition, though it’s a gamble, many computers last more than five years, many significantly more. Every dollar you overspend to be future proofed that you didn't need because your needs didn't change and all the extra power of your computer remains unused is increasingly wasted, the longer your computer lasts.

It makes much more sense to buy a computer that is powerful enough to meet your current needs well if you don't anticipate major changes in how you will use your computer and are reasonably confident that you won't do things in future that will exceed the ability of the computer.

Spending one-thousand dollars to future proof a machine, just in case, maybe you use your machine much differently in the future, when you could spend five hundred dollars today and three hundred dollars in fived or seven or eight years for another machine that you would probably use in similar ways as you do now or not much, is a bad idea.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me



Hi Brian,

Just for clerification, I have confirmed 5g signals do exist in my area for
my network. Even without the massive bandwidth, the lower latency itself
will probably result in better quality improvements. Also, all versions of
the IPhone by default include 5g.


On 10/14/2020 9:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
One reason, future proofing, I want to get the highest end version of the
IPhone 12, though 5g isn't very wiedespread now, it will be in three years
or so.-
I am at a loss as to how doing this, now, squares with your own earlier
assertion, "I think 5g is more significant for fixed wireless than
smartphones."

Going to a 5G device now, when it is obscenely expensive, and where the
ability to exploit 5G is limited to a very few locations, seems to me to be
a supreme waste.

And 3 years is an eternity in the world of technology, and smartphones in
particular, and what's Apple's flagship now, will be mid-range in 3 years,
and much cheaper.

Going to a 5G smartphone now, unless you live in a major metropolitan area,
is locking your money up in a frozen asset you cannot even use for its
intended purpose.


Re: 5g and me

enes sarıbaş
 

No, I would not buy a 500 dollar machine. In fact, I would exclude machines below a certain build quality as a matter of principle. Is saving every little penny really worth it for a device people use 12 hours a day or more? possibly? Those machines usually have more than one major flaw, and have barebone specs. I think a power user should get a pc above the 1000 dollar range, and a regular user, if they can aford it should go around 700-800. The difference between an entry level, and even midrange computer is very apparent in build quality, as well as components. A midrange system will probably have one or two important flaws, but a budget system will have three or more, iether bad keyboard, cheap material, poor cooling, etc.

On 10/15/2020 7:15 AM, Gene wrote:
And I suspect you spent over a thousand dollars to do what a five hundred dollar computer can do, less if on sale ormanufacturer refurbished.  I don't know enough technically to discuss some of your technical points, but I'll say the following:
The advice I see from computer advisors is that for the majority of people, purchasing a machine somewhere in the five hundred dollar range will meet their needs.  And even if memory requirements have gone up for some programs, they haven't gone up nearly enough that more than 8GB of ram is recommended for the majority of users.  That is the recommendation and it has been for years.

A little money here, a little money there, a more powerful processor, and pretty soon, you are spending five hundred dollars or more than you need to and gambling that your machine will last far longer than the generally agreed on length for reliable service, five years.  I think it is a very bad gamble, not because the machine won't last longer, it may well do so, but you are spending a lot more money now for performance parameters that will be much less expensive when you replace the computer.  And the typical user, buying a machine around the five hundred dollar range today, unless their uses change radically, won't have problems that will require a new machine probably for the life of the current one.

And what about technological changes itself?  If you bought a machine in the Windows 7 days that was future proofed, in your opinion at that time, it might not run Windows 10 now.  My understanding is, and if I'm wrong, I'm sure I will be corrected, that a lot of Windows 7 machines won't run Windows 10 because Microsoft now requires that different processors be used.

While I don't think that sort of thing will happen if one buys a machine now for use seven or ten years into the future and are attempting to future proof it, you are again gambling that newer technologies wohn't come along that will render your computer less useable, no matter how you future proof it now.

Gene.
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

This isn't correct. Browsers, and other day to day applications even,
dramatically have increased ram usage, as well as CPU power. For
example, Zoom will only let you blur the background of video  if you
have a quad core processor. If you buy a dual core as opposed to a quad
core processor for example, it will struggle at even the most basic of
tasks, and in 5 years, or even in a few years, programas even screen
readers will begin to lag. This happened with my core I5 4200M. I
thought a dual core was ok, though this was a system gifted to me. Had I
been choosing my own system then, I would've gone for an I7, and now,
this dual core is not even good enough for browsing. Large websites will
freeze it and even when I had it, intensive apps like finereader will
lag significantly independant of ram. This is exactly I future proofed
my next laptop, with a 1tb SSD, 32 gb of ram, and an r7 4800H processor
from AMD, with a 4.2 GHZ boost across all cores. This should be powerful
enough to run anything conceivable in the next 5 or so years, except
maybe AI workloads.
On 10/15/2020 6:07 AM, Gene wrote:
I've seen others, and I believe you, too, make the future proof argument for buying a more powerful computer than the person's anticipated needs because it will be useful longer because you never know when your needs will change. I've always thought such arguments were not good ones. For one thing, a lot of people will continue to use computers in about the same ways as now and if they do use them in more demanding ways, those will not likely tax the computer if they buy a computer that isn't just barely powerful enough to do what they want.

Also, technology continues to become more powerful and cost less. So, in five years, the projected reliable life of a computer, you will be able to buy one to meet your needs then for less money than you are paying now. In addition, though it’s a gamble, many computers last more than five years, many significantly more. Every dollar you overspend to be future proofed that you didn't need because your needs didn't change and all the extra power of your computer remains unused is increasingly wasted, the longer your computer lasts.

It makes much more sense to buy a computer that is powerful enough to meet your current needs well if you don't anticipate major changes in how you will use your computer and are reasonably confident that you won't do things in future that will exceed the ability of the computer.

Spending one-thousand dollars to future proof a machine, just in case, maybe you use your machine much differently in the future, when you could spend five hundred dollars today and three hundred dollars in fived or seven or eight years for another machine that you would probably use in similar ways as you do now or not much, is a bad idea.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me



Hi Brian,

Just for clerification, I have confirmed 5g signals do exist in my area for my network. Even without the massive bandwidth,  the lower latency itself will probably result in better quality improvements. Also, all versions of the IPhone by default include 5g.


On 10/14/2020 9:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
One reason, future proofing, I want to get the highest end version of the IPhone 12, though 5g isn't very wiedespread now, it will be in three years or so.-
I am at a loss as to how doing this, now, squares with your own earlier assertion, "I think 5g is more significant for fixed wireless than smartphones."

Going to a 5G device now, when it is obscenely expensive, and where the ability to exploit 5G is limited to a very few locations, seems to me to be a supreme waste.

And 3 years is an eternity in the world of technology, and smartphones in particular, and what's Apple's flagship now, will be mid-range in 3 years, and much cheaper.

Going to a 5G smartphone now, unless you live in a major metropolitan area, is locking your money up in a frozen asset you cannot even use for its intended purpose.







Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Rick Alfaro
 

Hi Mike. Actually, those were the 2 suggestions offered by JFW support but neither one made any difference. Thanks for suggesting them though.

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

 

You could try playing with the settings in Settings Center / Miscellaneous, to see if changing the MSAA options or the Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture options help.  The Miscellaneous folder is the folder number 25 of 26 and not the Misc. subfolder of, Web / HTML / PDFs.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 12:05 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

 

Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.

 

This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.

 

After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.

 

If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Mike B
 

You could try playing with the settings in Settings Center / Miscellaneous, to see if changing the MSAA options or the Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture options help.  The Miscellaneous folder is the folder number 25 of 26 and not the Misc. subfolder of, Web / HTML / PDFs.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 12:05 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.

 

This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.

 

After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.

 

If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Re: Odd changes from m.facebook

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Yes, they've changed the interface. You have to read down the page with your arrow keys to figure out what they've done.

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
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Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Rick Alfaro
 

Regarding my last message, I forgot to mention that the tracking issue I referred to is totally non-existent if I use NVDA instead of JFW and the Jaws version is the latest 2020 build. I have not tried 2021 as of yet.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

 

Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.

 

This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.

 

After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.

 

If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Rick Alfaro
 

Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.

 

This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.

 

After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.

 

If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Re: NLS cartridges and BARD

Dave
 

You get a USB cable that has a Male end, which plugs into the computer, and a Female end which then plugs into the male end on the NLS cartridge.


A simple Birds and Bees answer.


Grumpy Dave



On 10/15/2020 10:02 AM, Steven Johnson wrote:

Good day everyone.  To connect a blank NLS cartridge to a PC, what type of USB cable is used?  I feel kind of silly for asking because I feel what appears to be a male standard USB port on the cartridge, but how in the wide world of sports would you get an OTG cable on to that thing?


Odd issue with OpenDrive.

Jessica M
 

Hi all,
I've been using OpenDrive rather heavily over the past few days, with the program workin fine until just a few minutes ago. I went to copy a folder, only to have the folder apparently spontaneously stop copying. I tried restarting the process, but nothing happened. I closed the folder, thinking to start over by going through the main folder again. When i opened OpenDrive, I could get to the shared folder itself, but when I entered on one of the content folders inside the shared folder, the program doesn't open the folder, and stays on the list of folders. I tried a reboot, and updated OpenDrive, and still no luck. Is this something om my end, or is OpenDrive itself having issues at the moment?


Re: NLS cartridges and BARD

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

You can purchase a cable with standard male USB  on one end and a female USB connector on the other to connect to the cartridge.  You can purchase these from the places you purchase the cartridges or at an electronic store.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartridges and BARD

Good day everyone.  To connect a blank NLS cartridge to a PC, what type of USB cable is used?  I feel kind of silly for asking because I feel what appears to be a male standard USB port on the cartridge, but how in the wide world of sports would you get an OTG cable on to that thing?


messages

Kimsan
 

Hi,

Is it true windows has a messages app like the mac does?


Re: 5g and me

Carolyn Arnold
 

Our computer guy, who primarily does commercial, has a cell phone, but not a smart phone. That really surprised me. Right now, my husband doesn't even have a smart phone. For both, I think it is economics; they see no reason for a smart phone, and in my husband's case right now, for a cell phone at all. Coincidentally, they happen to have originally come from the same state - could be they grow 'em thrifty there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:


I am able to use THIRD PARTY CHARGERS for all My Shiny Android Toys with no problems.

Same here. Match the output specs of the OEM charger exactly or fairly closely and you're generally good to go. I have never had an issue with a charger harming a device. The biggest/worst difference was when using one with a significantly lower power output than the OEM model which meant significantly longer charge times (and that was one I didn't buy, but borrowed).

As an aside with regard to the earlier parts of this conversation, as a professional computer tech who works primarily with residential clients, I'd say that at least 50%, if not more, of my clients would consider "a couple of hundred dollars" a major price difference that they'd have to think long and hard about. And now being at a time of life where I'm not working full time, and not being "made of money," I understand and respect that. I've never owned a flagship smartphone or computer (even though I'm in the business) because both are way more than I've ever needed as far as their capabilities go and way more than I need to spend as a result.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: 5g and me

Carolyn Arnold
 

As my husband would say, "do you have something against money?" He's using a six-year-old, $300.00 Gateway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

And to a lot of people, it is important. the majority of people don't have enough money that they can just throw it away. Something like forty [percent of Americans, in a survey taken before the pandemic, didn't have enough savings to last for one month if an unexpected misfortune occurred.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/nearly-40percent-of-cash-strapped-americans-cant-last-a-month-on-savings.html

Of course, people who can easily afford to throw money away are welcome to do so, but many people who could, still don't want to.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

Gene,

Your sstatements about computer useage and hardware may all be correct.
That fact is that another 500 or 1000 dollars to a fairly large per centage of the population, doesn't matter. Tey feel that spending more money will serve them better.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October 15, 2020 5:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

I've seen others, and I believe you, too, make the future proof argument for buying a more powerful computer than the person's anticipated needs because it will be useful longer because you never know when your needs will change.
I've always thought such arguments were not good ones. For one thing, a lot of people will continue to use computers in about the same ways as now and if they do use them in more demanding ways, those will not likely tax the computer if they buy a computer that isn't just barely powerful enough to do what they want.

Also, technology continues to become more powerful and cost less. So, in five years, the projected reliable life of a computer, you will be able to buy one to meet your needs then for less money than you are paying now. In addition, though it’s a gamble, many computers last more than five years, many significantly more. Every dollar you overspend to be future proofed that you didn't need because your needs didn't change and all the extra power of your computer remains unused is increasingly wasted, the longer your computer lasts.

It makes much more sense to buy a computer that is powerful enough to meet your current needs well if you don't anticipate major changes in how you will use your computer and are reasonably confident that you won't do things in future that will exceed the ability of the computer.

Spending one-thousand dollars to future proof a machine, just in case, maybe you use your machine much differently in the future, when you could spend five hundred dollars today and three hundred dollars in fived or seven or eight years for another machine that you would probably use in similar ways as you do now or not much, is a bad idea.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me



Hi Brian,

Just for clerification, I have confirmed 5g signals do exist in my area for my network. Even without the massive bandwidth, the lower latency itself will probably result in better quality improvements. Also, all versions of the IPhone by default include 5g.


On 10/14/2020 9:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:11 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
One reason, future proofing, I want to get the highest end version of the IPhone 12, though 5g isn't very wiedespread now, it will be in three years or so.- I am at a loss as to how doing this, now, squares with your own earlier assertion, "I think 5g is more significant for fixed wireless than smartphones."

Going to a 5G device now, when it is obscenely expensive, and where the ability to exploit 5G is limited to a very few locations, seems to me to be a supreme waste.

And 3 years is an eternity in the world of technology, and smartphones in particular, and what's Apple's flagship now, will be mid-range in 3 years, and much cheaper.

Going to a 5G smartphone now, unless you live in a major metropolitan area, is locking your money up in a frozen asset you cannot even use for its intended purpose.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: 5g and me

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Do agree with you. have had a few of these chargers especially since most
are in my type c collection. Now if apple could make their stuff type c then
we would be golden on compatibility.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 7:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 5g and me

I guess I am a horrid lucky naughty child! I am able to use THIRD PARTY
CHARGERS for all My Shiny Android Toys with no problems. Typically, the
chargers that have shipped with my toys have not been long enough for my
liking. I have purchased THIRD PARTY chargers off Amazon that are about 10
feet long; some of these have been five chargers to a pack.

I've plugged in these chargers all over the place such that I'm never too
far away from one; I also bring one with me daily as part of my travel pouch
alongside a power bank for emergency use only. I do make sure that all the
third party chargers I have support data transfer.

All that said, I charge My Android toys once every two or three days and I
leave them all humming on their batteries 24 hours a day with all their
bells and whistles turned on.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: NVDA & vocalizer voices

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  Thanks for your response.  Where in Win10 do I find those voices you speak of?  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 15 October 2020 15:27
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA & vocalizer voices

 

Hi Walter,

 

Those voices do not come with NVDA.  Those are bought as an Add On to NVDA.  I bought them from some place called Code-something.  Sorry, their name starts with the word Code, but I can't remember the rest of their name.

 

However, I had nothing but problems with their Vocalizer voices for NVDA. 

 

In Win 10, I started using the Voices that come with Win 10, and I use the one named David, which to my ears is clean and clear enough for my uses. 

 

I like the Vocalizer voices and use them with JAWS all the time, but just had funky problems using them consistently with NVDA.

 

Others mileage may vary.

 

Grumpy Dave

 

 

On 10/15/2020 3:21 AM, Walter Ramage via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.  I have just installed one of the vocalizer voices on my Win10 machine and I went to NVDA to enable it but the voice I chose isn't there. It and other voices show in NVDA on my Win7 machine but for some reason it doesn't on my Win10 machine.  Am I missing something or not doing something I should?  after installing the vocalizer voice I did a restart to be sure but it still doesn't show.  Walter.

 


NLS cartridges and BARD

Steven Johnson
 

Good day everyone.  To connect a blank NLS cartridge to a PC, what type of USB cable is used?  I feel kind of silly for asking because I feel what appears to be a male standard USB port on the cartridge, but how in the wide world of sports would you get an OTG cable on to that thing?


Re: thinking of buying a paper shredder

Michael Rodgerson
 

Josh, If your looking for security, I would suggest the cross-cutter
as it will cut in such a way that the pieces can't go back together, I
think they even make ones that cross-cutt and do confetti, but not 100
percent shure about that.

Hope this hopes


Michael

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