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Re: Help needed regarding setting security options in Gmail

Duke
 

thanks

On 10/23/2020 4:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 09:55 AM, Duke wrote:
Idon't what to do.
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Contact the Google Disability Support Team

 
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Re: Help needed regarding setting security options in Gmail

Duke
 

Hi Mike,
Thank you for the more direct instructions. I finally was able to access the email account using thunderbird on my windows 10 laptop. I did one thing though which is that I made sure that I signed out of all my accounts before trying to do the less secure app thing. I didn't try it yet on my other computers though.
Thank you again.
Douk

On 10/23/2020 5:24 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Duke,
 
I've rewritten the steps and these steps are more accurate.  I tested themseveral times to make sure.
Here you go:
In your Gmail account settings, have you enabled the use of less secure apps? If you were to create a new Gmail account today and tried to set the account
up in the Outlook desktop app for instance, it would be blocked until you allowed the use of less secure apps. As for the exact process, here are the steps
if you are using the basic html setting in the online Gmail interface:
 
1. Log into your Gmail inbox.
Note:  If you use the, Links List keystroke, Insert + F7, to find the links in steps 2,3 and 4 along with first letter navigation it'll make things go much faster.
 
2. Press, Insert + F7, to open the links list, press the letter, S, to find  the, settings link and press enter.
 
3. Press, Insert + F7, to open the links list, press the letter, G, to find  the, Google account link, and press enter.
Make sure it's the, Google Account link and not Gmail account link. 
 
4. Press, Insert + F7, to open the links list, press the letter, S, to find  the, Security link, and press enter. 
 
5. Press, Insert + F7, to open the links list, press the letter, L, to get to the, Less Secure App Access, link.

 6. Now down arrow to find an, On link, to toggle on the use of less secure apps, it could also be a checkbox.
Note:  I'm not sure if there's a save settings button or not, but it wouldn't hurt to look.
 
Finished.
 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
From: Duke
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help needed regarding setting security options in Gmail

Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions. I've been trying to do that al this time that I took before responding to you. Just for the record, I explained in my previous message that I was able to find the less secure applications check box and I did check with no positive result. Google keeps blocking my accounts from both outlook express and thunderbird. However, after your suggestions, I wasn't able to find that check box any more no matter what I did.
I have the same experience in windows 7 and 1-. Idon't what to do.
Thanks again.
Douk
On 10/21/2020 5:27 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Duke,
 
Here you go:
In your Gmail account settings, have you enabled the use of less secure apps? If you were to create a new Gmail account today and tried to set the account
up in the Outlook desktop app for instance, it would be blocked until you allowed the use of less secure apps. As for the exact process, here are the steps
if you are using the basic html setting in the online Gmail interface:
 
1. Log into your Gmail inbox.
Note:  If you use the, Links List keystroke, Insert + F7, to find the links in steps 2,3 and 4 along with first navigation it'll make things go much faster.
 
2. Locate and press enter on the settings link.
 
3. Locate and press enter on the Google account link, and not Gmail account link.
 
4. Find the, Security link, and press enter. 
 
5. Navigate by heading using the letter, H, until you get to, heading level 2, Less Secure App Access.
 6. Now down arrow to find an, On link, to toggle on the use of less secure apps, it could also be a checkbox.
Note:  I'm not sure if there's a save settings button or not, but it wouldn't hurt to look.
 
Finished.
 
Again, the steps above apply if you are using basic html in the web interface of your Gmail account. If you are not, I’m sure you could Google the steps
otherwise. 
 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
From: Duke
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Help needed regarding setting security options in Gmail

Hi guys,
I have encountered a problem lately. I have outlook express on my
windows 7 laptop that I have been using until a bout a couple weeks when
I started using my desktop which also has windows 7 but with mozella
thunderbird. Being a newby in thunderbird, thereare certain things that
i do with outlook express that I don't how to carry them out in
thunderbird. So, yesterday I went back to my laptop to do those tasks in
outlook express only to find out that google is blocking me from
accessing my account stating that it does not allow a less secure third
party application to access my account. I actually have two mail
accounts. the main one which I have configured on both my laptop/outlok
express  and desktop/thunderbird has no issues. my second account which
is only configured on my laptop/outlook express  is the one being
blocked now. I tried to configure it in thunderbird on my desktop. The
same issue persisted. It was blocked due a less secure third party email
client. I also tried to tell google to accept less secure applications,
but to no avail. Any Ideas please?
Thanks in advance
Douk







Re: frustrated with edge

Rob Hudson
 

Access the address bar with ctrl+l

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:20:43 -0700
Subject: [TechTalk] frustrated with edge

Hi,

So many things I cannot do with edge that I could do with other browsers. Is
there a setting I need to change on edge?

Here are some examples of basic things I'm trying to do.

Copy text from a website, and accessing the address bar which I thought alt
d would do the trick but when I do alt d, nothing.

Any assistance is always appreciated.

Thank you,



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frustrated with edge

Kimsan
 

Hi,

So many things I cannot do with edge that I could do with other browsers. Is there a setting I need to change on edge?

Here are some examples of basic things I’m trying to do.

Copy text from a website, and accessing the address bar which I thought alt d would do the trick but when I do alt d, nothing.

Any assistance is always appreciated.

Thank you,

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


screen sharing with zoom

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi all.  For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!


Re: Kindle E Books

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Dave, I have a suspicion that the lack of enhanced typesetting may be the culprit for books which appear to be not accessible using the Kindle for PC app. Go to the Kindle bookstore and visit the page for a book that is not working with your Kindle app and see if enhanced typesetting is off.
If it is off or disabled the Codex app will likely allow you to convert the book into a Word document or into a plain text document. However, if you do decide to use Codex you will need to downgrade your Kindle app to version 1.17 as Codex does not work with v1.19 or later. The older version of the Kindle for PC app is available on the Web site that hosts the Codex software. Please note that I am not able to provide individual or one on one support regarding this app. However, you should feel free to ask follow-up questions either on this list or on the Kindle list. To subscribe to the Kindle list, send email to
vi-kindle-request@...



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/24/2020 8:18 PM, Dave wrote:

Hello,


I buy Books off Amazon to be read in the program I have on this System. 
Its name is Kindle for PC.


Most of the Books I've bought work and red just fine.  I can move line
by line, even word by word when necessary.


However, every once in a while, I purchase a Book, and I cannot read it
in the same way as the others.  I cannot read it line by line, I cannot
use the Vocalizer voice in JAWS, and I cannot move around to read a
single word.


In stead, what happens is it appears that the Kindle Reader is using one
of its voices to read the text, and there isn't a lot of control.   
It's either On or is Off, and moving around the text so far, has been
something I have yet to learn how is done.


I am speculating that the reason most Kindle books read fine has
something to do with the way the text is formatted ahead of time.


I have looked for information before I buy a given title as to if there
is something special about the way the book has been produced.  Some
give some info about how the text was prepared, and others do not.


I have bought titles that did not disclose how they were prepared, and
they work fine.


Can anyone tell me what to look for in the Book Description that might
give me a heads up as to whether or not this book is going to read with
JAWS or NVDA, or if it will be read with the On Board Kindle Voice?


I really want to stop wasting my money, buying books that do not allow
me to read line by line when this is what I wish to do.


Thanks for any hints,


Grumpy Dave










Outlook 365 read unread message command?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, I am now using Outlook 365 on a Windows 10 computer with Jaws 2020.  Control plus U used to be the Jaws command to read any unread message for Outlook, but maybe it’s something different in 365, since that’s not working for me.

 

Does anyone know the proper command?

 

Thanks very much for any help!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V




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Kindle E Books

Dave
 

Hello,


I buy Books off Amazon to be read in the program I have on this System. 
Its name is Kindle for PC.


Most of the Books I've bought work and red just fine.  I can move line
by line, even word by word when necessary.


However, every once in a while, I purchase a Book, and I cannot read it
in the same way as the others.  I cannot read it line by line, I cannot
use the Vocalizer voice in JAWS, and I cannot move around to read a
single word.


In stead, what happens is it appears that the Kindle Reader is using one
of its voices to read the text, and there isn't a lot of control.   
It's either On or is Off, and moving around the text so far, has been
something I have yet to learn how is done.


I am speculating that the reason most Kindle books read fine has
something to do with the way the text is formatted ahead of time.


I have looked for information before I buy a given title as to if there
is something special about the way the book has been produced.  Some
give some info about how the text was prepared, and others do not.


I have bought titles that did not disclose how they were prepared, and
they work fine.


Can anyone tell me what to look for in the Book Description that might
give me a heads up as to whether or not this book is going to read with
JAWS or NVDA, or if it will be read with the On Board Kindle Voice?


I really want to stop wasting my money, buying books that do not allow
me to read line by line when this is what I wish to do.


Thanks for any hints,


Grumpy Dave


Re: new computer

chris judge
 

True enough. I was talking about the windows set up process itself.

 

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 24, 2020 3:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new computer

 

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 01:02 PM, chris judge wrote:

It really isn’t difficult at all. Narrator is available from step one so it’s just a matter of following directions.

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I actually believe that the "it" of setting up a completely new computer, out of the box, that is not a laptop does involve steps that may (note: may) be significantly more difficult for someone who cannot see, particularly if their tactile sense is even slightly impaired, than you're allowing for.

It's not the software setup/screen reader availability I'm referring to, but the connecting of all the various things like keyboard, mouse, printer, etc., etc., etc.

Only the individual dealing with that task, and knowing what dealing with those sorts of things generally is like for them, can make that call.
 
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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Repairing Windows

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Lynn, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin! 1. Hit your windows key plus the letter r which is the run command.
2. Type cmd and then press enter.
3. You'll hear your screen reader say colon backslash your user name.
4. Next, type sfc space forward slash scannow and then press enter.
5. The process will start and will take a while and you'll hear your screen reader telling you the percentage completed as the process proceeds and once it hits one hundred percent, the process will be completed. You will be told if there are corrupt files but you'll have to run the event viewer to get full details as to what corrupt files were found that could not be repaired. That will get you started and if I can be of assistance, don't hesitate to get in touch and I'll be happy to assist you further. Have a blessed day! Brian Zolo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Repairing Windows

I have Windows 10. Could someone give tips how to run the sfc / scannow command?








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Re: new computer

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 01:02 PM, chris judge wrote:
It really isn’t difficult at all. Narrator is available from step one so it’s just a matter of following directions.
-
I actually believe that the "it" of setting up a completely new computer, out of the box, that is not a laptop does involve steps that may (note: may) be significantly more difficult for someone who cannot see, particularly if their tactile sense is even slightly impaired, than you're allowing for.

It's not the software setup/screen reader availability I'm referring to, but the connecting of all the various things like keyboard, mouse, printer, etc., etc., etc.

Only the individual dealing with that task, and knowing what dealing with those sorts of things generally is like for them, can make that call.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Repairing Windows

Mike B.
 


Hi Lynn,
 
This is from Brian Vogel:

[Last Update: 3/18/2020]

Britechguy’s Standard Advice Regarding Windows 10 Issues and their Repair

All of what follows presumes any issue that is occurring is not secondary to a malicious infection.  If you suspect it is, then your first order of business should be attempting to exorcise your system of said infection.  That’s a topic of its own and won’t be covered here.

Also, certain issues suggest that device drivers are the most likely culprits.  If that’s the case make sure you have gotten the latest device drivers from either your computer’s OEM support pages or the OEM support pages for the component (e.g., video card, WiFi card, printer, etc.) and installed those and tested afterward.  As the preceding indicates, these issues are usually with internal devices or peripherals behaving badly so it’s relatively clear which device needs attention.

The above having been said and considered, if you are experiencing unexpected issues immediately or very shortly after any Windows update has been applied, then the first thing you should do is use the Windows 10 built-in capability to uninstall the latest update that’s suspected of causing the issue:

1.        Open Settings, Update & Security.  This should take you to the Windows Update Pane by default.

2.        In the Windows Update Pane, locate the View update history control, and activate it.

3.        In the View Update History dialog, locate the Uninstall updates link and activate it.

4.       In the Installed Updates dialog, the updates will be listed in groupings, with the groups alphabetically ordered, and the items within each group ordered by date – most recently installed first (if no one has changed the defaults).  In most cases, you’ll be looking to uninstall a Microsoft Windows update, and those are generally the final group.  The number of updates available for uninstalling is shown in parentheses after the Microsoft Windows group name.

5.       Almost all Windows Updates will have a KB number associated with them, and if you know that use this as what you search on for the actual update.  Select it.

6.        Activate the Uninstall button located above the list of updates, and the selected update will be uninstalled.

If it’s not an update that’s suspected of causing an issue, there are other steps you can take.  Before going any further, it must be noted that a repair install (or feature update, when those are being done) allows one to keep all of one's files and apps (desktop/installed and store varieties).  This is in complete contrast to a Reset (which allows either keeping just one’s files or wiping everything), or a Refresh/Fresh Start or Completely Clean Reinstall, both of which wipe everything.

My standard advice, in virtually all cases, (and presuming any potential infection has already been addressed, first) is trying the following, in the order specified. 
It is also presumed that you will have made a complete system image backup, and a separate user data backup, prior to using options two or three (and, if you don’t already have a backup drive and a cyclic backup protocol going, this is your chance to start one, which is vital).  If the issue is fixed by option one then there's no need to go further.  Stop whenever your issue is fixed:

1. 
Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10 


2. 
Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file


3. Doing a completely clean reinstall (options a & b are downloadable PDF files):

           a) Completely Clean Win10 (Re)install Using MCT to Download Win10 ISO File

           b) Completely Clean Win10 (Re)install Using MCT to Create a Bootable USB Drive

           c) How to do a CLEAN Installation of Windows 10  (Tom’s Hardware Forums, with screen shots)

 

I never choose the “thermonuclear option,” the completely clean reinstall, until it's clear that this is the only viable option. I hate having to go through all the work of reconfiguring a machine from scratch if that can reasonably and safely be avoided.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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----- Original Message -----
From: lynn white
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 10:35 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repairing Windows

I have Windows 10. Could someone give tips how to run the sfc / scannow
command?






Re: Repairing Windows

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

You can ignore the section on DISM, which comes after using SFC anyway, but you may want to run both.

Might I ask why you are running the System File Checker?  Not that it hurts to run it, ever.  The worst that happens is it finds that everything's fine.
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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Repairing Windows

Norman
 

Hi.

From the desktop press windows q to open the search dialog. Type com and you should here command prompt. press applications or shift f10 to bring up the right click menu and press down arrow until you here run as administrator.

press enter and alt y if you get the user account control dialog.

now you should be in the command prompt.

type sfc /scannow and hit enter.

Wait for the command to complete, note, it could take a while.


There are other ways to get to the command prompt as well, feel free to use any one that you wish, but you do have to run it as administrator for the command to work.


HTH.

On 10/24/2020 1:35 PM, lynn white wrote:
I have Windows 10. Could someone give tips how to run the sfc / scannow command?





Repairing Windows

lynn white
 

I have Windows 10. Could someone give tips how to run the sfc / scannow command?


Re: new computer

chris judge
 

It really isn’t difficult at all. Narrator is available from step one so it’s just a matter of following directions.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: October 23, 2020 7:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new computer

 

 

Although some techies on this list are probably very capable of setting up a new computer all by themselves without sighted help, this is definitely not recommended for a tech newbie.  It is best to have sighted help on hand in case you run into unexpected problems and do not have speech to bail you out. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 10/22/2020 11:38 PM, Luis Guerra via groups.io wrote:

Hi Jerry, Is sighted help required when setting up a new computer?
I'm asking this question because I to am about to buy a new desktop computer.

On 10/22/2020 7:31 PM, Jerry hathaway wrote:

I am looking to get a new computer and wondering if this the computer listed below will be a good computer to purchase.
Model: Lenovo M93 SFF Pro
Processor: Intel quad core I7 -4770 running at 3.4ghz and turbo boost to
3.9ghz
Ram: 8GB DDR3 PC1600
Hard drive: 2TB 7200RPM Western digital
DVD+/-rw Super multi drive
Wireless: Asus AC-68 dual band capable of 1.3ghz
USB: 8 ports - 2 front and 6 rear
4 - USB 2.0 and 4 USB 3.0
Dimentions: 13.3" W x 14.8" D X 4" high
Weight: 17.2 pounds
Includes Keyboard, mouse and power cord

Jerry






Question about Orbit Readers and IOS 14

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,

I'd like to be able to use my Orbit Readers with
IOS 14 plus on my iPhone XR. Is there any known reasons to wait any longer to update?

Thanks for any input you offer.


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Re: question about a second hard drive

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Shirley,

            The first thing you need to determine, since we're talking a laptop here, is whether yours will even support more than one drive, as it sounds like you have the intention of adding an additional one.  If you don't, then you do not need to consider that.

             Most of the time when upgrading either drive size/capacity, technology (SSD instead of HDD), or both at once you simply acquire a new drive of the correct physical configuration for your machine, clone your existing system drive to it, then transplant it in to your laptop.  Depending on the cloning software used, you may or may not have to deal with expanding partitions to take advantage of your newly acquired space.  Some cloners will also allow you to expand partition size when they're doing the cloning, others don't.

              I recently did this in the opposing direction, going from a 2TB HDD that had well over 1TB of free space to a 1TB SSD, so the clone just "lopped off" all of the unused space when it cloned to make what was actually used fit on to the smaller drive.
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        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


question about a second hard drive

Shirley Healy <shirley1980@...>
 

I am thinking of getting an upgrade to my existing laptop, which right now only has a small hard drive, if I got an upgrade, would the new hard drive just look like another separate drive? I wouldnt have to uninstall everything including the operating system to upgrade it would I?
shirley


Re: help with the free tubi app voiceover and IOS14.1

Josh Kennedy
 

I tried all the voiceover scrolling commands and swiping, and it did not work.

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