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Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joe, this is going to have to be a collaborative effort due to a couple of complications.   SpaceSniffer is able to generate a text report, but believe it or not, it's entirely accessible until you hit the screen where you generate it.  I can't find any way to activate the Export button on that page with a screen reader.

TreeSize Free generates an exported PDF report, which most don't like, but I just found that its actual space analysis report in the program appears to be accessible, so you can go down through it line by line there once its done the scan.  Here's what I've put together as the "tutorial starter" and you'll need to give me feedback regarding what happens after the report is up and you've attempted to read through it to see what's hogging the space.  It could go perfectly smoothly or you could hit bumps.  It's your job to report back about that.
-----------------------------------

TreeSize Free Download Page – You can select either the installable version or portable version from the dropdown on that page.  Either will get the information you  need.  There is also a cluster of 3 radio buttons to indicate the region of the world for which you’re downloading:  North America/Europe/Other, followed by the Download Button.

This tutorial will presume you’ve downloaded the portable version (ZIP format) and have already unzipped it to the folder from which you wish to run the program and are sitting in that folder.

1.       Fire up TreeSizeFree.exe.

2.       Hit ALT+S,D [Scan Tab/Ribbon, Select Directory], you will then be presented with your drive options as well as a Select Directory to Scan option at the end of the submenu.  Pick what’s appropriate for what you’re doing.  I will choose a directory for the rest of this tutorial, and that directory will end up being C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA.  If you use the directory option you will be presented with a typical File Explorer navigation dialog to select the folder you want.  You can, of course, type out the path in the Folder edit box if you know it.  The choice is yours.  As soon as you've selected/typed a folder hit the Select Folder button and the scan begins.

3.       If you keep focus on the TreeSizeFree window it will begin reading out the result of its analysis when it finishes, and for folder that will be very quickly.  What starts the report is the folder or drive level you chose to scan.  Down arrowing will take you through the various subfolders and files associated with it, reading out names, sizes, etc.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: anyone using nfl gamepass

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tenny,

OK, this is a bit convoluted on the web page, but here is what you do.
1.  Use the address (for easier access) gamepass.nfl.com.  This takes you right to the listing of games.
2. The page is haphazzardly constructed so find the 2020 season and week 8.  Click on the week 8 link.
3.  After a bunch of listings of previous years and games, you should come to the listings for week 8.
4.  Sloly read over the listings line by line (they are abbreviation so you will have to listen closely and maybe if you're not sure use character navigation to determine for sure which listing you are looking at.
5.  Under each listing, there is a listen link. Click on this link.
6.  Again you are presented with a haphazard screen and you must move down to the listing of radio broadcast links.  They seem to include the TV  reference across all pages and sub pages for Game Pass.  In any case, you should see the listings in abbreviated form again, but this time, there is a combo box containing the home and away items.
7. Highlight this combo box and switch to edit mode NVDA insert + space bar or the JAWS equivalent of turning off the PC cursor.
8.  Use up and down arrows to select either home or away and press enter.
9.  I notice that under the combo box, there are a group of controls and one of them is play. But as soon as I chose the home/away item in the combo box, the stream started playing without any further action.

In this combo box, unlike the iPhone app, there are only two choices: home and away.  In the iPhone app, which has a totally different construction, there are 4 buttons for each game: two for home and away English and two for home and away Spanish.  I guess since your chosen language is English for the web version of this interface, the site assumes you only want the English links. Probably, if you chose Spanish as your default language when you signed up, the two choices would be the Spanish feeds--but this is just a guess on my part.

In conclusion, the site though clumsy--just as is the iPhone app--is useable once you  get used to it.
Good luck.

On 11/2/2020 9:41 AM, tony via groups.io wrote:
 only use the web page, on w10/w7 pc

On 11/1/2020 12:14, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Teny,

Using the IOS app, I see both a home and away button for the feeds. Are you talking about the IOS or Android app or the webpage itself?


On 11/1/2020 10:47 AM, tony via groups.io wrote:
noticed last few weeks only 1 listen button is present for each game
there used to be a home button and an away button







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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Upgrading Memory and Storage

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Memory is designated as, for example PC4-21300 or PC3-12800, but both in SODIMM (laptop) form factor are two different memory types.  If you want the correct match for your machine, and the Crucial system scan shows PC3-12800, then that's the one you should buy, no matter what brand you do buy.  PC4 descriptions will also generally contain DDR4 somewhere and PC3 generally contain DDR3 or DDR3L.  The easiest thing to pay attention to is the PCx-99999 part, as it encapsulates pretty much everything with the exception of the form factor, which will be SODIMM for laptop memory or UDIMM or DRAM or SDRAM for desktop memory.

You will sometimes get multiple PCx-99999 options, and the one with the highest number in the 99999 part after the PCx number is the fastest among those.  It is not unusual for computer manufacturers to use memory that is not the fastest that a given motherboard can support, both for cost and availability reasons.

Sometimes the actual memory speed will not matter all that much, anyway, in average use.  But having more of it can make for anything from a moderate to massive performance improvement, depending on how "cramped" your memory capacity has been for what you are doing on a machine.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


iPhone 12

Danny Park
 

I know that with the new iPhone's there is no charging block included but rather just a lighting to USB C cable.  My question is if anyone know if you can use an older lighting to USB cable as in the past or do you need to make sure that you have a type C charger before ordering.

thanks for any info.


Danny


Ninja Foodi Grill

Danny Park
 

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a Ninja Foodi Indoor Grill and whether it is accessible or can it easily be adapted with markings to be accessible.

Any thoughts or information on this will be greatly appreciated.


Danny


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Joe Orozco
 

Yes, I would be interested. The only thing I can think of that would
have generated such volume is an addon I may have installed. I could
just delete my copy of NVDA and start over, but if there's something
else causing the issue, I'd like to know. Thanks in advance.--Joe

On 11/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe,

I would suggest using a disk space analysis tool to get a really clear
picture of what's being stored where.  If you have any interest in doing
that, I will check if SpaceSniffer or TreeSizeFree (which are free, and
SpaceSniffer can produce a very nice text based report) is accessible.  But
I won't slog through that unless I know you're interested.

There is no way that NVDA itself has created an 80GB folder.  Something else
has to be involved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

*Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely
fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.*

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com






Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joe,

            I would suggest using a disk space analysis tool to get a really clear picture of what's being stored where.  If you have any interest in doing that, I will check if SpaceSniffer or TreeSizeFree (which are free, and SpaceSniffer can produce a very nice text based report) is accessible.  But I won't slog through that unless I know you're interested.

            There is no way that NVDA itself has created an 80GB folder.  Something else has to be involved.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: anyone using nfl gamepass

tony
 

only use the web page, on w10/w7 pc

On 11/1/2020 12:14, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Teny,

Using the IOS app, I see both a home and away button for the feeds. Are you talking about the IOS or Android app or the webpage itself?


On 11/1/2020 10:47 AM, tony via groups.io wrote:
noticed last few weeks only 1 listen button is present for each game
there used to be a home button and an away button





Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Joe Orozco
 

I'm also at a loss. There are folders in there that don't seem to
belong, like that recycling bin folder. When I get home from work I'll
have to share the list of folders and files to see if someone can help
me compare the file directory they see on their system. I remember
creating a portable version of the application when I reloaded the app
on that particular laptop, but that should not create bulk over 80
gigs. Hell, even JAWS does not take up as much space as I thought it
might.

Joe

On 11/2/20, Dave <dlh007@centurylink.net> wrote:
Hi,


Just for laughs, I checked my own installation of NVDA on a Win 10
System, up to date with all Windows and NVDA updates.  Total space on
this Machine was 125 MB, and not GB.


Not sure why yours is claiming 80 Gigabits of valuable HD space.


Grumpy Dave

On 11/1/2020 8:02 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:
I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe









Re: Upgrading Memory and Storage

abdulah aga
 

Hi

what is PCx-99999 part

and where we can find it and how.

could you tell me more about that.

thanks


Re: Properties show two disk sizes

Fanus
 

Hello Brian

I forgot to mention that I am using JAWS, so when I activate the JAWS cursor in properties and read line by line from the bottom there are two lines, each showing a different disk size. I wonder if it is a JAWS issue.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Properties show two disk sizes

 

Mike & Fanus,

That's exactly what they are, and the first figure is (provided column order has not been rearranged from default) total size and the second free space.

When I'm using NVDA it announces what the number is (e.g., Total size) before the value is announced.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Dave
 

Hi,


Just for laughs, I checked my own installation of NVDA on a Win 10
System, up to date with all Windows and NVDA updates.  Total space on
this Machine was 125 MB, and not GB.


Not sure why yours is claiming 80 Gigabits of valuable HD space.


Grumpy Dave

On 11/1/2020 8:02 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:
I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe




Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Monte Single
 

Yes, my nvda folder is also 120 megabytes.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor
Sent: November 1, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, A Space Hog

 

Hi Joe,

You may like to go through your NVDA subfolders to insure something hasn't been inadvertently placed there. Mine is 120MB in size, that includes addons.

 

On 2/11/2020 2:02 pm, Joe Orozco wrote:

I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.
 
Joe
 
 
 
 
 


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Mike B.
 


My 1st post was of my Windows 7 64 bit system, the below is for my Windows 10 installation:
 
NVDA
Type: File folder
Location: C:\Program Files (x86)
Size: 131 MB (137,902,803 bytes)
Size on disk: 76.0 MB (79,753,216 bytes)
Contains: 1,312 Files, 263 Folders
Created: Monday, October 8, 2018, 1:41:40 PM

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, A Space Hog

Hi Joe and Sam,
 
This is my total info.
 
NVDA
Type: File folder
Location: C:\Program Files (x86)
Size: 126 MB (132,564,098 bytes)
Size on disk: 75.2 MB (78,905,607 bytes)
Contains: 1,614 Files, 277 Folders
Created: Saturday, November 28, 2015, 12:39:42 PM
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, A Space Hog

Hi Joe,

You may like to go through your NVDA subfolders to insure something hasn't been inadvertently placed there. Mine is 120MB in size, that includes addons.


On 2/11/2020 2:02 pm, Joe Orozco wrote:
I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe






Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:07 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:
Mine is 120MB in size, that includes addons.
-
Same here.

It is very, very easy to accidentally save downloads in unexpected locations if you use the "ask me where to save" each time and aren't paying attention every time you download.  We've all done it at one point or another.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Mike B.
 


Hi Joe and Sam,
 
This is my total info.
 
NVDA
Type: File folder
Location: C:\Program Files (x86)
Size: 126 MB (132,564,098 bytes)
Size on disk: 75.2 MB (78,905,607 bytes)
Contains: 1,614 Files, 277 Folders
Created: Saturday, November 28, 2015, 12:39:42 PM
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, A Space Hog

Hi Joe,

You may like to go through your NVDA subfolders to insure something hasn't been inadvertently placed there. Mine is 120MB in size, that includes addons.


On 2/11/2020 2:02 pm, Joe Orozco wrote:
I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe






Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Sam Taylor <sjt1982@...>
 

Hi Joe,

You may like to go through your NVDA subfolders to insure something hasn't been inadvertently placed there. Mine is 120MB in size, that includes addons.


On 2/11/2020 2:02 pm, Joe Orozco wrote:
I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe






NVDA, A Space Hog

Joe Orozco
 

I was looking at my C drive. It was showing over 200 GB of space used.
I thought that strange and assumed Windows must have bloated at some
point. But as Brian pointed out, the OS does not take up much space,
so I started poking around and damned if I didn’t discover NVDA alone
was hogging up 80 gigs all on its own. There’s a recycling bin that
alone was taking up 40 gigs. The library folder was also heavy in
data. Can someone explain why this might be happening? I don’t want to
take an ax to things without understanding why it might be doing this.
Thanks for any info.

Joe


Re: Upgrading Memory and Storage

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Joe,

          There's no real answer to "what's more RAM than I need" without actually knowing exactly what's being done.  But unless you're doing something very memory intensive and processor intensive my recommendation is a minimum of 8GB of memory and a maximum of 16GB for "the great middle of the bell curve" of Windows 10 users..  All modern operating systems are set up to optimize the use of the available memory, but if there's "way too much" you just have an unused asset.

The Crucial System Scan gives you the information you need to buy memory from anyone, not just them.  If you pay attention to the PCx-99999 part of the description that's generally enough provided you know if you're looking for desktop or laptop memory, because the form of the sticks is distinctive to each.

I can't imagine why you believe that the operating system is taking up much of a 256GB drive.  The variation in space taken by Windows 10 is small, and Windows 10 Pro uses just under 30GB.

I'll let someone else speak to the ease, or lack thereof, of trying to do a RAM or SSD upgrade sans sight.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Twitter

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,

I just tried again and I was able to click on the next button. Now there's a new issue, I don't have a cell phone, and I really didn't want to use one of my parents' numbers. I tried using my email address, but it said that this email had already been taken, which doesn't make sense as if it had then I wouldn't have this address to begin with. Any idea what the issue could be? Could it have

something to do with the fact that I use this email with my Facebook account?  

 

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: November 1, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Twitter

 

Hi all,

I just tried to create my account, but when I clicked on the next button nothing happened. Everything is right, am I doing something wrong? Thanks

Madison

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: October 31, 2020 4:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Twitter

 

I believe most people use twitter clients such as tw Blue, that is on windows, on iOS the official app or twitterrific quite good option.

I think only tw blue is being developed now a days although it needs to be updated as well but still it is functioning fine.

Good luck.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:38 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Twitter

 

Hi all,

I'm thinking about getting Twitter, is there anyone on hear who uses it with

Jaws? If so, how easy and accessible is it to use? How well does it work with

Edge? Any shortcuts or tips/tricks that any of you have? And finally, is there a

basic site similar to the ones Facebook has? I know it's not like Facebook, but

still. Look forward to any help/suggestions that anyone can provide, as I don't

really know anything about Twitter!!! Thanks Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 

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