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Re: Solution Needed: Subscribing To a Google Group From My Outlook.com Address Subscribes Me Using My Gmail Account

gbmagoo@...
 

You need to use the google web site and log in and unsecure your password.

This is really difficult.kl I found the best way is to have Microsoft accessibility do it for you. It involves many steps in outlook to get it finished

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 05:05
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Solution Needed: Subscribing To a Google Group From My Outlook.com Address Subscribes Me Using My Gmail Account

Hi. I'm trying to subscribe to the Viphone discussion group via email, not using the Google Groups Web interface and I'm trying to do this from my primary Outlook.com email address. I open Thunderbird to my Outlook.com address and send the subscription request via email. When I then get added or subscribed I get messages sent to my Gmail account instead of my Outlook.com account. There's clearly a link which has been set up in my Gmail account but I can't seem to locate it in order to unlink my Gmail account from my Outlook account and I'd like to find a way of doing this. What I want is to subscribe to this group using my Outlook.com address and have that same address subscribed to the group.

--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Solution Needed: Subscribing To a Google Group From My Outlook.com Address Subscribes Me Using My Gmail Account

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. I'm trying to subscribe to the Viphone discussion group via email, not using the Google Groups Web interface and I'm trying to do this from my primary Outlook.com email address. I open Thunderbird to my Outlook.com address and send the subscription request via email. When I then get added or subscribed I get messages sent to my Gmail account instead of my Outlook.com account. There's clearly a link which has been set up in my Gmail account but I can't seem to locate it in order to unlink my Gmail account from my Outlook account and I'd like to find a way of doing this. What I want is to subscribe to this group using my Outlook.com address and have that same address subscribed to the group.

--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Re: Ebay New Visual Test for Login

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Other options that generally get rid of these things these days is turning on 2 factor authentication (usually a code sent to your smartphone, but there are other options) or using a FIDO-2/UF2 security key (and these can be had cheaply these days, see this one on Amazon).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Ebay New Visual Test for Login

Holly
 

Rich:

I have not seen the visual choice on eBay, but have gotten a page with secret questions to set up for extra security.

The question page is not accessible to answer the questions easily, so I just closed the page and tried signing in again with my user name and password.

The second time I signed in, I got right in without falling on the extra security page.

Wonder if this would work with your security issue.

Might give it a try.


Re: Ebay New Visual Test for Login

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

By the way, these are not being used only by eBay and/or Google.  I've run into them all over the place recently.  Since I'm generally not running a screen reader, and since these are clearly set up to allow alternate verification by typing what you hear in a brief audio sequence, I'd simply presumed the buttons with the icons that indicate same (a speaker for the audio challenge) would also have labels exposed for a screen reader to read.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Ebay New Visual Test for Login

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Rich,

           When I get one of these when running NVDA, the first thing landed on, which isn't labeled particularly well, is announced as "Clickable," and is the button to play an audio challenge instead, and when it goes to the audio challenge screen the button you're on is the Play button for the audio challenge, which for me has been a digit sequence.  It really helps if you turn screen reader speech off just before you activate the play button, otherwise it's impossible to understand the challenge digits.

            What amazes me is that the buttons that are intended to give those who can't solve the visual puzzle another way to verify are not identified at all well.  Why go to all this trouble if you're not going to let a screen reader user know precisely what they've landed on?!
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Ebay New Visual Test for Login

Rich DeSteno
 

Within the last few months, Ebay has instituted a verification process for your account, which comes up periodically.  It requires that you complete a visual puzzle, obviously with the mouse.  This is impossible to accomplish without vision.  In an effort to get around this, I created a new account with my Google account, but now that account is also being blocked by this verification process.  Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

I don't know how fast your connection is but the download isn't large, its about 100MB.

What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?

I can try uploading the program to my Dropbox and you can see if you can download it from there.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least 35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least 35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Here are a small number of NVDA commands. You won't have to know a lot of commands to do quite a bit because so many commands people use are program or Windows commands.
Exit NVDA, either insert q, then press enter.
I won't specify either insert any longer. I'll call the key used the NVDA key. It doesn't have to be either insert. That's what it is by default.
Run NVDA, control alt n.
Read title bar, NVDA t, the same as the JAWS command.
Read to end, NVDA plus down arrow.

Since you are using Windows 7, when you run NVDA for the first time, you will hear the really nerve-grating voice that comes ith NVDA. If you were using Windows 10, you would hear a Windows voice. I don't know how many other voices you have but if you do this, you will get a much more pleasant voice, probably the Windows 7 voice, but it doesn't do a particularly good job of speaking.
You can buy good quality voices for NVDA, including Eloquence. You will probably be using the computer voice if you do the following:
Open the synthesizer dialog with NVDA key s. You are in a list where you can select a synthesizer. Down arrow to Microsoft Speech MSAPI5 and press enter. The dialog closes and you are now probably using the Windows 7 voice.

To adjust speed and other parameters, use the command NVDA v. Listen to the field you are on, then tab around the dialog and do what you want.

That will probably be enough for you to do many things If you want to learn more, there are various tutorials you can use. I don't know much about them, I didn't use them, so I won't discuss them unless you want to learn more. I can tell you a little or direct you where to get information.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 05:45 PM, Chris G wrote:
One is the default of course, but you should be able to have two or more without any issue.
-
Only if you are using IMAP, Exchange, or one of several other lesser known server-side protocols.

By default most POP configurations will delete downloaded messages from the server after they are downloaded, and that means one e-mail client would have certain messages that it downloaded and the other other ones.

If you are using a server-side access protocol, you are 100% correct.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi Gene,
This sounds great! I will definitely download this in about an hour in a half, and I will report back. Thank you so much!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Mis-match detected

Nancy Hill
 

Gene, it happens only periodically. I can get through by pulling up the website and going directly there.  BTW, I am using just about the latest versions of Win10, JFW, etc.  I do tend to use IE, so I think I will try with another browser just in case that changes anything.  I wonder if this is happening to anyone else...or, if it is just my luck.


Has anyone else experienced the 'Mismatched detected situation?


Thanks,

Nancy

On 11/11/2020 2:59 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know but you should be able to solve the problem by copying and pasting the link into your browsers address bar.

If the link is not written out, but is a link such as a title or click here, you can get the underlying link in many e-mail programs.  If you tell us which one you are using, we may be able to tell you how to do so.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Mis-match detected

Hi All,


It is not that unusual for me to click on a link and then the words
'mis-match detected will pop up.  I am then given the choice of
continuingt to my original destination or clicking on a link to take me
to google.  The first time I remember this happening was when I got an
email from my church that had a link to the sermon of the week and when
I entered on that link, a mis-match was detected.


Can someone please let me know why this is happening or tell me what has
gotten into my laptop to make this happen?  I'd love to get this cleared up.


Many Thanks in Advance!

Nancy









Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file, typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter. You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Chris Nova
 

Hello,

You can have more than one email client on the computer.
One is the default of course, but you should be able to have two or more
without any issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.




























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Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

WOW! Gene, smart thinking! I never even gave that a thought, but this is definitely something good to try. I've also been wanting to install another screen reader, so I guess this is the time! LOL! Do you have a link so I can maybe try NVDA? Do you have any shortcut keys I can use to get started with NVDA? I think that is the correct name of the screen reader meaning NVDA, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you again, smart thinking!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

This may well not be related to JAWS. Can you try forwarding a message with
a different screen-reader?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Hi Brian,

Oops, I forgot to say what version of JAWS I am currently using, so the
version is JAWS 2020.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



What's your JAWS version?

And I'll say it, though you've almost certainly heard it, but get off of
Windows 7, which is now officially out of support. It is still possible to
do a free, in-place upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using these
instructions: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the
Windows 10 ISO file
The only difference between a repair install/in-place feature update and an
in-place upgrade is that all the steps in those directions take place under
Windows 7 up to and including kicking off the setup.exe file. Anyone doing
an in-place upgrade should take a full system image backup of their existing
Windows 7 installation if at all possible before doing so. I've never had
one go catastrophically bad, but have had a couple that didn't take and were
rolled back to Windows 7. There is, however, the possibility of the very
rare catastrophic failure during an in-place upgrade, which is why you want
the insurance of a system image backup from which to restore if the worst
were to somehow happen.

I used Office 2010 for many years, up until around a year ago, when it was
getting "creaky" on a lot of fronts, many not related to screen readers. I
believe it's now officially out of support as well.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes any sense.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 04:35 PM, Gene wrote:
Can you try forwarding a message with a different screen-reader?
-
Always an excellent diagnostic step to take one thing out of the equation and substitute another to see if the misbehavior persists or stops.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna

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