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Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:10 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
They have nothing to do with China at all.
-
I suggest you acquaint yourself with the concept of supply chains if you truly believe that.  It is a very, very rare product these days that does not trace back some small part, through almost all parts in some cases, of its supply chain to China.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Victor
 

That’s good.

Victor


On Nov 13, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Perkins Brailer manufacturing has nothing to do with China or any trade wars with China. They are made in the United States, India, and South Africa. They have nothing to do with China at all.


Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Josh Kennedy
 

Perkins Brailer manufacturing has nothing to do with China or any trade wars with China. They are made in the United States, India, and South Africa. They have nothing to do with China at all.


Re: screen capture software

Mike B.
 

Hi Marvin,
 
Below are some notes on taking screen shots.  I'm sure one of the notes will give you the information you need.
From: Brad Snyder
How to take a screenshot on Windows 10 computers: a guide - Business Insider
May 18, 2020, 1:33 PM
Microsoft WindowsThere are several ways to take a screenshot on Windows 10.Reuters
Windows 10 provides several ways to take screenshots of your entire computer screen, or just select parts of it.
The fastest way to take a screenshot on Windows 10 is by pressing the "PrtScn" button on your keyboard. There are various key combos to take screenshots
of portions of the screen.
Microsoft also provides a Snipping Tool to take custom screenshots, and draw on the images.
You can take screenshots within games by opening the Game Bar with the Windows + G keyboard shortcut.
Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.
If you need to capture a screenshot of something on your computer screen, Windows 10 offers a variety of methods for doing just that.
 
Whether you want to save the entire screen, or just a piece of it, we've rounded up all the most common techniques for taking a Windows 10screenshot.
 
Check out the products mentioned in this article:
Windows 10 Home (From $129.99 on Amazon)
How to take a screenshot on Windows 10 with the PrtScn key
The simplest way to save a copy of whatever is on your computer screen is to simply press the "Print Screen" key on your keyboard. It's usually labeled
"PrtScn" (or something very similar) and is located in the top row, among or near the Function keys.
 
On some keyboards (particularly laptops) you might need to trigger the Print Screen using the Function key (in other words, hold the Function key and then
press PrtScn).
 
The PrtScn key copies the entire screen to the clipboard, so you can paste it elsewhere, but there are several modifier keys you can use to change the
way this key works.Dave Johnson/Business Insider
Windows features several PrtScn variations:
 
Press PrtScn. This copies the entire screen to the clipboard. You can paste the screenshot into any program that displays images, like Paint or Microsoft
Word.
Press Alt + PrtScn. This copies the active window to the clipboard, which you can paste into another program.
Press the Windows key + Shift + S. The screen will dim and the mouse pointer will change. You can drag to select a portion of the screen to capture. The
screenshot will be copied to the clipboard, which you can paste into another program. (This shortcut only works if you have the latest version of Windows
10 installed, called the Windows 10 Creators Update.)
Press the Windows key + PrtScn. This saves the entire screen as an image file. You can find it in the "Pictures" folder, in a subfolder called "Screenshots."
How to take a screenshot on Windows 10 with Snipping Tool
Microsoft includes a much more flexible screenshot utility with Windows 10, called Snipping Tool.
 
You can use Snipping Tool to grab a screenshot and save it as an image file without first pasting the screenshot into another program.
 
1. Start the Snipping Tool from the Start menu.
 
2. In the "Mode" drop down, choose the kind of screenshot shape you want — you can choose anything from full screen to rectangular to a free-form shape.
 
You can choose the kind of screenshot that Snipping Tool takes with the program's menus.Dave Johnson/Business Insider
3. Click New, and your screen will freeze. You can then use the mouse to create the screenshot. The screenshot will then appear in the Snipping Tool window.
 
4. If you want to include something like a tooltip, which only appears after a mouse movement, you can specify how long to wait before taking the screenshot
using the Delay menu.
 
5. If you want to, once you've taken your screenshot, you can use the drawing tools to annotate the screenshot.
 
6. When you're done, click "File" and then click "Save As" to save the completed screenshot to your computer.
 
7. You can also click the copy button in the Snipping Tool window — it looks like two pages laid over one another — to copy the image to your clipboard.
 
How to take a screenshot on Windows 10 with the Game Bar
The Game Bar is an overlay you can use within most Windows games to take screenshots and record video. Here's how to use it:
 
1. Start a game from the Start menu or the Xbox Console Companion program.
 
2. While playing the game, press the Windows key + G. The Game Bar overlay should appear.
 
The Game Bar has a screenshot tool that appears as an overlay on top of games.Dave Johnson/Business Insider
3. Click the camera icon to take a screenshot, or you can use the keyboard shortcut: Windows key + Alt + PrtScn.
 
The screenshot will be automatically saved to the "Videos" folder in a subfolder called "Captures."
 
If you're playing a game on Steam, you can also press F11 to take a screenshot. It will be added to your screenshots folder on Steam.
 
Brad
 
From: Kevin
Just press the print screen key usually found after the F12 key or if you have a Microsoft media keyboard it’s the second key after the F12
If you don’t want to take a screenshot of the whole desktop and just the current window press alt key plus print screen key
 
The screenshot will be on your clip board and you can paste it where ever you want
 
If you are running windows 10 the screenshot should automatically be saved in your one drive pictures screenshots folder
 
Kevin
 
From:
Rick Mladek
When you take the screen shot and in your word document, just paste and the screen shot is there. It is automaticly copied when the screen shot key stroke
is performed.
 
Rick 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:00 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] screen capture software

Hi. Need to use a accessible free screen capture software for windows server 2019. Need to capture the screen, then save them as a png or other images. Need to do this for a network lab and to show my trainer what I have done inside windows server 2019 inside hyper v manager.

Any ideas.

Have tried different software. Either not accessible or not able. Unless have to create a auto hot key script to do this.

Thanks.

 


screen capture software

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi. Need to use a accessible free screen capture software for windows server 2019. Need to capture the screen, then save them as a png or other images. Need to do this for a network lab and to show my trainer what I have done inside windows server 2019 inside hyper v manager.

Any ideas.

Have tried different software. Either not accessible or not able. Unless have to create a auto hot key script to do this.

Thanks.

 


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

I verified that the browser isn't the problem. I downloaded the same file and had no problem.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
I know what you mean about the Thunderbird is not a large file, matter of fact, when Thunderbird started downloading, Brave said Thunderbird was 101 MB, and that isn't a large file. That is why I figured something is wrong, and closed the download, after three attempts. I got a message on my PC today telling me I had a new update for JAWS 2021, so, I started the download of JAWS, and the download was acting just like when I was downloading Thunderbird, meaning the counting down. JAWS didn't even complete the download, and I got the same message as I did when I was downloading Thunderbird, about how this file can harm your PC, and asking me if I am sure I want to continue the download. I'm thinking there might be some setting in Brave I need to change. Do you know what I might look for in Brave as to see why do I get this message, as this is the second time I got the message? Can you please send me a drop box link, and I will try that to see if it will work.
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I don't know how fast your connection is but the download isn't large, its
about 100MB.

What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?

I can try uploading the program to my Dropbox and you can see if you can
download it from there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least
35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading
Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave
reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't
sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times
again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the
minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your
computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't
seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Victor
 

Unfortunately, between the coronavirus and people not learning braille so much anymore, I don’t see that situation improving much anytime soon.


On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:



I saw them being sold off the perkins site for 800 dolalres. They are either gray or blue! So do not think their out of stock. The price seems way high but, I have had mine for 37 years or so I think. I saw some of ebay too! Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

 

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 08:42 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Perhaps the covid or coronavirus is really affecting the manufacturing and shipping of standard and electric perkins braillers?

-
It's affecting the manufacturing and shipping of huge numbers of things, so it's not at all surprising that a niche market item would be hit hard.

Right now computer spare parts are getting harder and harder to come by, and prices have risen accordingly, due to both Covid-related issues and the trade war initiated by our sitting president with China.  Since China is currently "the manufacturer for the world" of all sorts of component parts of all sorts of things, if you're a US manufacturer you're hit on two fronts.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna

 


Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

heather albright
 

I saw them being sold off the perkins site for 800 dolalres. They are either gray or blue! So do not think their out of stock. The price seems way high but, I have had mine for 37 years or so I think. I saw some of ebay too! Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

 

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 08:42 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Perhaps the covid or coronavirus is really affecting the manufacturing and shipping of standard and electric perkins braillers?

-
It's affecting the manufacturing and shipping of huge numbers of things, so it's not at all surprising that a niche market item would be hit hard.

Right now computer spare parts are getting harder and harder to come by, and prices have risen accordingly, due to both Covid-related issues and the trade war initiated by our sitting president with China.  Since China is currently "the manufacturer for the world" of all sorts of component parts of all sorts of things, if you're a US manufacturer you're hit on two fronts.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna

 


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

It is asking for information to set up your account. Modern e-mail programs try to set up your account automatically, if you let them. Use the e-mail address you use for your account and the password you use. In other words, this isn't a create new account feature. It is trying to set up your existing account.

You may update when you want. There is nothing wrong with waiting until you finish setting things up.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
Ok I finally got to download Thunderbird by looking through Brave settings to see if I could find some settings about that annoying message saying this file can harm your PC, and that took me to the downloads I have downloaded for yesterday, and I came across a message saying Thunderbird has been cancelled, so I tabbed again, and came across an option to try download again, so I did, and sure enough, with in maybe 2 or 3 minutes, Thunderbird was downloaded! Although, I did still get the message about this file can harm my PC, and I still couldn't find any way to answer that question, so I pressed the JAWS key, and found a disregard or keep option, so I entered on that, and that allowed Thunderbird to finish downloading! LOL! So now, I am going through the set up process. Thunderbird is asking me for my name, and an email address. My question is can I select any email address I want? I don't have to put in my Outlook email address, or do I?
I am also getting a message saying there is an update for Thunderbird, and it wants me to update to that new version. Do I need to update that?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I don't know how fast your connection is but the download isn't large, its
about 100MB.

What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?

I can try uploading the program to my Dropbox and you can see if you can
download it from there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least
35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading
Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave
reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't
sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times
again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the
minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your
computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't
seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Try another browser and see if the same thing happens. There is no default setting that should cause this behavior or else a lot of people would have it. There may be some sort of setting for turning off a feature that keeps you from unreliable sites. I don't know if there is a setting about checking downloading files but if you don't have problems downloading with another browser, do that for now.

Others may suggest settings changes and I'll also see what I can find in Brave.
gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
I know what you mean about the Thunderbird is not a large file, matter of fact, when Thunderbird started downloading, Brave said Thunderbird was 101 MB, and that isn't a large file. That is why I figured something is wrong, and closed the download, after three attempts. I got a message on my PC today telling me I had a new update for JAWS 2021, so, I started the download of JAWS, and the download was acting just like when I was downloading Thunderbird, meaning the counting down. JAWS didn't even complete the download, and I got the same message as I did when I was downloading Thunderbird, about how this file can harm your PC, and asking me if I am sure I want to continue the download. I'm thinking there might be some setting in Brave I need to change. Do you know what I might look for in Brave as to see why do I get this message, as this is the second time I got the message? Can you please send me a drop box link, and I will try that to see if it will work.
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I don't know how fast your connection is but the download isn't large, its
about 100MB.

What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?

I can try uploading the program to my Dropbox and you can see if you can
download it from there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least
35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading
Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave
reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't
sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times
again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the
minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your
computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't
seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          Yes.  Thunderbird (and all modern e-mail clients, for that matter) relies on a large online database of server and port information it has compiled for specific email service providers, and automatically populates many of the things one used to have to enter by hand.  Generally all you'll have to enter is your email address, password, and what you'd like to have put ahead of your email address to identify you on email messages, e.g., J. Smith or Janet Smith or . . .

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

When you say Thunderbird will ask for my email address and password, are you saying I need to enter my Outlook email address and password?  

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

          Thunderbird has had "automatic setup" for a number of years now for the vast majority of email service providers.  When you first fire it up you will be asked for your e-mail address and password, along with a couple of other bits related to setting up the account, and it will in all likelihood take care of the rest.  It even triggers a login to Google for OAUTH access and sets that up were you to be using a Gmail account.

          If you have your address and password, just fire up Thunderbird and follow it's lead as far as giving it the info necessary to configure your account.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          Thunderbird has had "automatic setup" for a number of years now for the vast majority of email service providers.  When you first fire it up you will be asked for your e-mail address and password, along with a couple of other bits related to setting up the account, and it will in all likelihood take care of the rest.  It even triggers a login to Google for OAUTH access and sets that up were you to be using a Gmail account.

          If you have your address and password, just fire up Thunderbird and follow it's lead as far as giving it the info necessary to configure your account.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

I got Thunderbird downloaded.  I know my download issue has to be rectified.  I need to get through the set up with this email program first.  I need to go one step at a time. 

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

            You've got me completely confused at the moment.   I was talking about what needs to be done to get your downloads going without being blocked, but that should have no direct connection to email as such.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

            You've got me completely confused at the moment.   I was talking about what needs to be done to get your downloads going without being blocked, but that should have no direct connection to email as such.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi Brian,

I already selected the option not now, and it went away, or at least for now.  Do I add whatever email address I want, or do I have to add my Outlook email address? I’m still trying to get through the set up process. 

 

Thank you.

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

             Check under Windows Security and see if, under App & Browser Control, if the Reputation Based Protection are all on consider turning them off, or at least trying to turn them off one at a time to see if you can reach a "happy medium" as far as what is allowed versus not allowed.

              It's a new feature that many, including myself at times, find annoying because it's a bit too aggressive about what it wants to block.  And we managed without it for a very long time before now.

              The above presumes Windows 10 and Windows Security.  If that's not the case, look at whatever security suite you're using.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

             Check under Windows Security and see if, under App & Browser Control, if the Reputation Based Protection are all on consider turning them off, or at least trying to turn them off one at a time to see if you can reach a "happy medium" as far as what is allowed versus not allowed.

              It's a new feature that many, including myself at times, find annoying because it's a bit too aggressive about what it wants to block.  And we managed without it for a very long time before now.

              The above presumes Windows 10 and Windows Security.  If that's not the case, look at whatever security suite you're using.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi Gene and All,
Ok I finally got to download Thunderbird by looking through Brave settings to see if I could find some settings about that annoying message saying this file can harm your PC, and that took me to the downloads I have downloaded for yesterday, and I came across a message saying Thunderbird has been cancelled, so I tabbed again, and came across an option to try download again, so I did, and sure enough, with in maybe 2 or 3 minutes, Thunderbird was downloaded! Although, I did still get the message about this file can harm my PC, and I still couldn't find any way to answer that question, so I pressed the JAWS key, and found a disregard or keep option, so I entered on that, and that allowed Thunderbird to finish downloading! LOL! So now, I am going through the set up process. Thunderbird is asking me for my name, and an email address. My question is can I select any email address I want? I don't have to put in my Outlook email address, or do I?
I am also getting a message saying there is an update for Thunderbird, and it wants me to update to that new version. Do I need to update that?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I don't know how fast your connection is but the download isn't large, its
about 100MB.

What antivirus and antimalware programs are you using?

I can try uploading the program to my Dropbox and you can see if you can
download it from there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene,
I've been trying to download Thunderbird with the link you gave for at least
35 minutes or more, and I get a message from Brave saying downloading
Thunderbird Portable 32 minutes left, but then one minute later Brave
reports 25 minutes left, then Brave reports 29 minutes left, this doesn't
sound right. I closed the download, and tried it three different times
again, but I still get the same message from Brave about counting the
minutes, and then I get a message saying this program will harm your
computer do I still want to allow this program on my computer, but I can't
seem to find anywhere to answer this question either yes or no. Any ideas?


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

I would suggest Thunderbird Portable. It does as much as the installed
version and it has advantages. If the program develops a problem, yu don't
have to troubleshoot it. You can have a backup copy and you can delete the
copy you are using and copy the backup to the location where the program is
you usually use.

Another advantage is that if you want to put the program on another
computer, you can copy it there and do no setup.

You can also run it from a thumb drive or other removable media. So if you
are using someone else's computer and you want to use your program, you can
use it in that way.

Here is a direct download link:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.2_English.paf.exe

You run the exe file and it seems like an installer but it doesn't install
anything. It places the program on your hard drive.

You run the program by opening the folder where it is, finding the exe file,
typing t will probably place you on it the first time, then press enter.
You can also send the exe file to the desktop as a shortcut and make a short
cut key. If you want to know more about that, members will tell you.

As to your NVDA question, I'll either write you a short introduction or I
may have something I wrote in the past.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Gene,
Thank you for this. Do you know of any way I might set up Thunderbird now
on my pc, just so I can try it out, and get used to it before I delete
Outlook, or is this just too far fetch? I guess what I'm asking is can I
have to different email programs on my pc at the same time? If that makes
any sense.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Thunderbird is a good option.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your response, but I don't think doing a repair would help, as
Outlook 2010 is just so outdated! Outlook is not only outdated, but it is
sure enough flaky! I never did like Outlook for the simple fact it has to
many whistles and bells, in which I can't stand, and I just don't need all
those bells that go along with it. Now, this is just my personal opinion
though. The thought of calling Microsoft, gives me a headache! I will
definitely look in to another email program though. Having said all that, I
do love Outlook for iOS though, and wish I could have that on my pc, and not
only on my phone, but it is what it is! LOLL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 08:42 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Perhaps the covid or coronavirus is really affecting the manufacturing and shipping of standard and electric perkins braillers?
-
It's affecting the manufacturing and shipping of huge numbers of things, so it's not at all surprising that a niche market item would be hit hard.

Right now computer spare parts are getting harder and harder to come by, and prices have risen accordingly, due to both Covid-related issues and the trade war initiated by our sitting president with China.  Since China is currently "the manufacturer for the world" of all sorts of component parts of all sorts of things, if you're a US manufacturer you're hit on two fronts.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


perkins braillers out of stock or discontinued?

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

Are perkins braillers out of stock or possibly discontinued? On the perkins products website, it says standard braillers won’t be in, until mid October 2020. Well we are past that date now. It says electric braillers won’t be in, until late November 2020. We are coming up on that in 2 or 3 weeks. I sure am glad I got my used electric brailler when I did, and furthermore sent it back to Perkins for reconditioning and refurbishment and cleaning when I did 3 months ago. I hope perkins braillers and their parts will still be sold and supported for many decades to come. Perhaps the covid or coronavirus is really affecting the manufacturing and shipping of standard and electric perkins braillers?

 

Josh

 

 

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