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Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

I don’t know of any screen readers who don’t use first letter navigation either.

So now, you tell me this, but, I didn’t read this in your tutorial until I just downloaded it an hour ago.  Now, had Brian, told me some of this yesterday before I downloaded your tutorial, I might have had a better understanding.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree, ok this is finally good to know!  This makes sense!  I now know why I want to download the add-ons, as I asked you yesterday!  Now, if I can get to where I need to add the extensions in Thunderbird, that would be nice!  I might get to work with Thunderbird, and I would be one happy camper!  Lol!  Smile!  Thank you for the information. 

Janet


         

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

          I know of almost no screen reader users who are not accustomed to using first letter navigation in the folder tree in an e-mail client, and virtually all e-mail clients support this natively, but not Thunderbird.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree.

          The tutorial states, in its intro covering this add-on:  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Notepad generally won't read word processor documents properly unless they are text files created in the word processor. Wordpad or something like JARTE with the compatibility pack should be used in a case like this. I'm not saying other word processors shouldn't be used. I'm naming those I know will work as desired. If this particular document reads properly in Notepad, that's fine but that isn't what should be used for docx documents.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Brian,

Thank you, but I already downloaded your tutorial, and opened it like Gene said which is much easier, through Notepad. Well Brian, you can believe it or not, but I never got any MS Word document saying in protected mode, until I got yours. I’ve been using MS Word as well as Outlook for at least 36 years now. I’ve never liked it, and I’m never going to. LOL! I have no problems opening an attachment either, or at least not yet! I guess we can call this a mystery! Smile!

Having said all that, as I am reading your tutorial, I can understand it just fine, but I can’t find where to install the add ons, and I am following your easy instructions though.





Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Janet,

I am more than willing to assist with the protected mode issue, if necessary. I cannot believe that you have never opened something you've downloaded, or detached from an e-mail message, that has not behaved similarly, as this behavior is years-old.

There should be a button that allows you to, at the very least, read a MS-Word document if you find yourself in such a situation, but it has been so long since I've gotten that warning I cannot remember what the button says. I routinely turn off protected mode for all office documents.

What follows is a very recent post on this issue, from the JAWS for Windows Group, by Bill White that may help you get around this issue:

MS Word actually has a number of features to protect you from various threats that are spread via Word files. One of these features (opens in a new tab)

in the read-only mode so it can’t affect your computer negatively.

This may be the reason why your documents always open in the read-only mode. Turning this option off should fix the issue for you.

list of 2 items



1. Open MS Word on your computer.

2. Click on the Options option at the lower-left corner and it’ll open the settings menu.

3. Click on the General tab in the left sidebar if you aren’t already there. Then on the right-hand side menu, scroll down and find the option that says

Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view.

4. Uncheck the box for the option and click on OK to save the changes.

5. The Word files you’ve received as email attachments should now open in regular mode letting you edit them however you want.





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

Thank you, but I already downloaded your tutorial, and opened it like Gene said which is much easier, through Notepad.   Well Brian, you can believe it or not, but I never got any MS Word document saying in protected mode, until I got yours.  I’ve been using MS Word as well as Outlook for at least 36 years now.  I’ve never liked it, and I’m never going to.  LOL!  I have no problems opening an attachment either, or at least not yet!  I guess we can call this a mystery!  Smile!   

Having said all that, as I am reading your tutorial, I can understand it just fine, but I can’t find where to install the add ons, and I am following your easy instructions though.  

 

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

I am more than willing to assist with the protected mode issue, if necessary.  I cannot believe that you have never opened something you've downloaded, or detached from an e-mail message, that has not behaved similarly, as this behavior is years-old.

There should be a button that allows you to, at the very least, read a MS-Word document if you find yourself in such a situation, but it has been so long since I've gotten that warning I cannot remember what the button says.  I routinely turn off protected mode for all office documents.

What follows is a very recent post on this issue, from the JAWS for Windows Group, by Bill White that may help you get around this issue:

MS Word actually has a number of features to protect you from various threats that are spread via Word files. One of these features (opens in a new tab)

in the read-only mode so it can’t affect your computer negatively.

This may be the reason why your documents always open in the read-only mode. Turning this option off should fix the issue for you.

list of 2 items

 

1. Open MS Word on your computer.

2. Click on the Options option at the lower-left corner and it’ll open the settings menu.

3. Click on the General tab in the left sidebar if you aren’t already there. Then on the right-hand side menu, scroll down and find the option that says

Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view.

4. Uncheck the box for the option and click on OK to save the changes.

5. The Word files you’ve received as email attachments should now open in regular mode letting you edit them however you want.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

I'm not sure what accounts for what you were describing earlier, but if I didn't tell you this before, it may save you problems. 


When you open something like options in Thunderbird, after you work in it, close it with control f4.  Alt f4 closes the program but if you haven't closed options first, when you reopen the program, you will be in options again.  Closing options and returning to the main window will avoid you being somewhere else when the program opens again.


Gene

On 11/17/2020 4:39 PM, Janet wrote:

 

Brian, you said I would want to install the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension/add-on. 
I asked you why, in other words, why would I want to install that, but yes, you gave no explanation is to why would I want to do that.  I am just replying to this for clarification purposes.  .   .

I have never used Thunderbird, and I have never had to install any add-ons for any program before.  So, I wanted to know.  I’m a firm believer in there is no stupid question, so if I don’t know something, I’m sorry if that bothers you, but I will continue to ask questions until I learn what I want to learn! 

Thank you for letting me know about what I call a toggle feature, meaning pressing f6, It remembers where you last were when you closed it, and that's where it opens, as I didn’t know that either.   

 

Janet
  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Janet wrote:

You gave no explanation.   

-
Uh, yes I did in the tutorial.

This is aimed at you, and in general, when people offer reference material, it's expected that it will be read before follow-up questions are asked.  I don't write those tutorials for my benefit.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          I know of almost no screen reader users who are not accustomed to using first letter navigation in the folder tree in an e-mail client, and virtually all e-mail clients support this natively, but not Thunderbird.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree.

          The tutorial states, in its intro covering this add-on:  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

 

Brian, you said I would want to install the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension/add-on. 
I asked you why, in other words, why would I want to install that, but yes, you gave no explanation is to why would I want to do that.  I am just replying to this for clarification purposes.  .   .

I have never used Thunderbird, and I have never had to install any add-ons for any program before.  So, I wanted to know.  I’m a firm believer in there is no stupid question, so if I don’t know something, I’m sorry if that bothers you, but I will continue to ask questions until I learn what I want to learn! 

Thank you for letting me know about what I call a toggle feature, meaning pressing f6, It remembers where you last were when you closed it, and that's where it opens, as I didn’t know that either.   

 

Janet
  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Janet wrote:

You gave no explanation.   

-
Uh, yes I did in the tutorial.

This is aimed at you, and in general, when people offer reference material, it's expected that it will be read before follow-up questions are asked.  I don't write those tutorials for my benefit.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Microsoft Edge question

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that in general, browsers that allow you to make short cuts make them to open in the browser.
-
Actually, most don't.

In browser "add shortcuts to desktop" functions generally add webpage shortcuts, without any direct specification of the browser to be used to open same.  There are exceptions, as you've noted, but they are exceptions.  Most of the time whatever is set as the default web browser is what will open any one of them.

While you can force opening in a specific web browser simply by specifying the browser program to be used as part of the shortcut, very few people ever do.  You can see how that's done for a shortcut created by a Browser that uses that technique, e.g., Brave.

The few desktop shortcuts I do have for web pages are now all defaulting to Brave because it is my default browser.  They were created long ago when Brave was not my default browser.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Microsoft Edge question

Gene
 

Its worth pointing out that this method opens web pages in the default browser. The Brave Browser, which allows creation of a shortcut from the menu, creates ones that only open in that browser. If you decide to use another browser, whatever shortcuts you have made will only open in Brave or, if you remove Brave, won't open. I suspect that in general, browsers that allow you to make short cuts make them to open in the browser. I don't know if that is the case, but its not worth taking a chance. The way Brian gave is the best because you can control what browser they open in by making whatever browser you want the default.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Microsoft Edge question

Control space bar only causes nothing to be selected if only one thing is
sselected. If nothing is selected, it will result in something being
selected. One way to make sure only one thing is selected is to press home,
then use control space.
I often see instructions of this sort that say to go to the desktop and
issue the command control space. While that works most of the time, there
are times it won't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Microsoft Edge question

Almost all modern browsers do this by drag and drop, which is why I strongly
suggest individuals learn how to do this using the following method, which
is screen reader and browser agnostic. Credit Barbara Sheinbein in the JAWS
Group topic, Is there an easy way (or an extension for) sending a URL as a
shortcut to the desktop with Firefox and JAWS? :



This works for all sorts of things to send to your desktop like folders,
documents, or even a commonly used email address.



Go to your desktop. Press control-space bar to deselect anything on your
desktop.

Press the applications key or shift-10.

Arrow up or down to new and press enter.

Arrow to shortcut and press enter.

You will be in an edit field. Type or copy/paste your web site URL.

Tab to next button and press enter.

On the next screen give this a name and tab to finish. Press enter.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Microsoft Edge question

Gene
 

Control space bar only causes nothing to be selected if only one thing is sselected. If nothing is selected, it will result in something being selected. One way to make sure only one thing is selected is to press home, then use control space.
I often see instructions of this sort that say to go to the desktop and issue the command control space. While that works most of the time, there are times it won't.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Microsoft Edge question

Almost all modern browsers do this by drag and drop, which is why I strongly suggest individuals learn how to do this using the following method, which is screen reader and browser agnostic. Credit Barbara Sheinbein in the JAWS Group topic, Is there an easy way (or an extension for) sending a URL as a shortcut to the desktop with Firefox and JAWS? :



This works for all sorts of things to send to your desktop like folders, documents, or even a commonly used email address.



Go to your desktop. Press control-space bar to deselect anything on your desktop.

Press the applications key or shift-10.

Arrow up or down to new and press enter.

Arrow to shortcut and press enter.

You will be in an edit field. Type or copy/paste your web site URL.

Tab to next button and press enter.

On the next screen give this a name and tab to finish. Press enter.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Microsoft Edge question

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Almost all modern browsers do this by drag and drop, which is why I strongly suggest individuals learn how to do this using the following method, which is screen reader and browser agnostic.  Credit Barbara Sheinbein in the JAWS Group topic, Is there an easy way (or an extension for) sending a URL as a shortcut to the desktop with Firefox and JAWS? :

This works for all sorts of things to send to your desktop like folders, documents, or even a commonly used email address.

 

Go to your desktop.  Press control-space bar to deselect anything on your desktop. 

Press the applications key or shift-10.

Arrow up or down to new and press enter.

Arrow to shortcut and press enter.

You will be in an edit field.  Type or copy/paste your web site URL.

Tab to next button and press enter.

On the next screen give this a name and tab to finish.  Press enter.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Google Voice not ringing when receiving an incoming call

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

The answer to your question is, "Yes," as far as experiencing this problem.  Recently Google Voice seems to be "not ringing" more frequently than it does ring.  I've had similar problems in the past with Hangouts, too.  I have never found anything the end user can do to fix this, and believe me, I've tried.

At least under Windows 10 I am getting a pop-out notification (once known as a toast) when an incoming call is arriving and can know I need to answer that way.

This morning, Google Voice is actually ringing on my computer but not on my smartphone.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Google Voice not ringing when receiving an incoming call

 

Hi guys. Has anyone else experienced this with Google Voice not ringing when receiving an incoming call but after your phone does record the incoming an call an Google an Voice send you a notification?. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Ashley Breger


Microsoft Edge question

Nancy Hill
 

Hi...I am trying to learn to use Edge as my browser...and boy, does it hurt.


Using M Edge how do I place a website on my desktop?  It used to be so easy with IE.


Thanks  for your help!

Nancy


Re: How do I move my Whatsapp and SMS from iPhone to Android?

Muhammed Demirölçen <demirolcen@...>
 

You misunderstood me. I just wanted to move my WhatsApp chats from iPhone to Android. I think I achieved this.
In order to do this, I have to wait now, as I have verified on WhatsApp many times, and there is only 2 hours left.
After 2 hours, I will realize if I was able to achieve this or not.
If I succeeded, I'll write this.
If anyone buys an Android device like me, I don't want it to have trouble with this.

17.11.2020 02:39 tarihinde Michael Rodgerson yazdı:

Muhammed, I made the switch a wile ago too, unfortunately there is no
way to transfer apps from an Apple device to an Android, you have to
redownload them again, or repurchase them, I know it's really
annoying.

Hope this helps


Michael




Re: Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.

Dave
 

<Big Smile>  Well, looks like it's Operator Error" again.



I just hate that when it happens, don't you?

Grumpy Dave

On 11/16/2020 8:01 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
With the numlock on, when you hit the NVDA key, you were actually hitting 0. That's why they were showing up. So, expected behavior.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dlh007@centurylink.net>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:49:21 -0800
Subject: [TechTalk] Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.

I had turned the Number Lock to ON.    And for what ever reason, by
doing this, on my desk top system running Win 10, started to put in
zeros while typing.  I noticed it in Thunderbird, but I was typing in a
file name in
Gold
Wave, and a zero magically showed up in the file name as well.


Turned off the Number Lock, and now all is well.


The Read to End even works again!  Go figure.  Have I stumbled on a
quirk with NVDA running on my system, or does this even have anything to
do with NVDA?


Anyway, turning the Num Lock off seems to be the solution this time around.


Grumpy Dave











Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Gene,

         While I have no objection to what anyone chooses to do, or that they consider "easiest," most want documents of whatever type to open, "automagically," in the program normally used to create and edit them.

          If the attachment is a docx, I want it to open in Word, xlsx in Excel, PDF in my chosen PDF reader, etc., when I choose to download/detach something.  That's why I turn off protected mode.  It's a personal preference, combined with the fact that I have not had an infection of any sort, or flagged MS-Office document, in over 15 (possibly 20) years.  I'm really fussy about the sources from which I'll download and open documents.

          In the situation where I'm the file's supplier, I figure that by now I'm a very well known quantity on a number of blind-related technology groups and it's well known that nothing I created myself will give anyone any infections.  The same for other materials I give links to that I did not create.  I wouldn't hand someone else anything that I haven't vetted myself, with the possible exception of links to newspaper articles.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.

Gene
 

I don't know what commands you were using while typing. Every time you used numpad insert for anything when the numlock was on, you were entering 0 into an edit field, if you were in one. If you use numpad insert as the command for read to end with the numlock on, you were not using its function as insert. You were using it to try to insert the number 0. Read to end would have worked with the other insert or another command such as capslock if you had that set as an NVDA command.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.


I had turned the Number Lock to ON. And for what ever reason, by
doing this, on my desk top system running Win 10, started to put in
zeros while typing. I noticed it in Thunderbird, but I was typing in a
file name in
Gold
Wave, and a zero magically showed up in the file name as well.


Turned off the Number Lock, and now all is well.


The Read to End even works again! Go figure. Have I stumbled on a
quirk with NVDA running on my system, or does this even have anything to
do with NVDA?


Anyway, turning the Num Lock off seems to be the solution this time around.


Grumpy Dave


Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Gene
 

While I have no objection to turning off protected mode, the easiest thing to do is to open the document in Wordpad, which has no protected mode and which will read docx documents in versions from Windows 7 on. I don't iknow about Vista, but that is pretty much not a concern.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents



Note: This is separate from the read-only mode that often rears its ugly head if Protected Mode is turned off. It depends on the version of Office.

To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

This applies in Word, Excel, Access, etc. You have to do this in each program where you want the nag off.

1. <!--[endif]-->File Tab, Options Item

2. <!--[endif]-->In Options Dialog, Trust Center Pane

3. <!--[endif]-->Once Trust Center Pane is up, activate Trust Center Settings button (or Hit ALT+T)

4. <!--[endif]-->In Trust Center Settings, Protected View Pane

5. <!--[endif]-->In Protected View Pane, under the Protected View Group, uncheck whichever of the protected views you’d prefer not to deal with. Leave the Data Execution Prevention Group untouched (and this feature is enabled by default).

Note well: If you disable Protected View then be very, very certain that you trust the source of the file you intend to open, whether it was sent as an e-mail attachment or downloaded. Ideally, it should be virus scanned, at a minimum, before you consider opening it. On many computers your antivirus software or security suite automatically scans anything you download and if you’re sure your setup does this you are reasonably safe in opening files acquired from sources you trust.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I'm a bit mystified, but depending on your keyboard layout it could become clear.

Do you not use your number pad, with number lock off, to issue NVDA commands?  In desktop layout the number pad zero serves as Insert, and that's what the vast majority use for the insert key.  That being said, I know that some keyboards actually have a separate, dedicated Insert key, which you could be using.

I use my number pad zero key as the Insert key 100% of the time, since it's the only option.

And a number of other of the number pad keys are used for a wide variety of NVDA commands in desktop keyboard layout, so I'm trying to figure out how you could have number lock on and NVDA functioning even vaguely normally if it was.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.

Rob Hudson <rob_hudson3182@...>
 

With the numlock on, when you hit the NVDA key, you were actually hitting 0. That's why they were showing up. So, expected behavior.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dlh007@centurylink.net>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:49:21 -0800
Subject: [TechTalk] Found out why I get Zeros in text. Very strange though.


I had turned the Number Lock to ON. And for what ever reason, by
doing this, on my desk top system running Win 10, started to put in
zeros while typing. I noticed it in Thunderbird, but I was typing in a
file name in
Gold
Wave, and a zero magically showed up in the file name as well.


Turned off the Number Lock, and now all is well.


The Read to End even works again! Go figure. Have I stumbled on a
quirk with NVDA running on my system, or does this even have anything to
do with NVDA?


Anyway, turning the Num Lock off seems to be the solution this time around.


Grumpy Dave









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