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Re: The CC and BCC Fields in Thunderbird

Gene
 

Start a new message and shift tab beyond the other addressing fields button. You will see a button for bcc and for cc. Press enter on the button you want to work with. The space bar, which is the standard command for most buttons, doesn't work. So much for following Windows standards.
Type the address or use autocomplete or however you want to enter an address, then press enter and either leave the field as it is, or enter another address, then press enter. Repeat until you have the addresses in the field you want. You can place focus on an address by left arrowing. Left arrow more times to place focus on different addresses. You will hear your screen-reader prompt you for how to work with addresses if you let the full address read followed by the prompt.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich DeSteno
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 11:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] The CC and BCC Fields in Thunderbird

The latest version of Thunderbird changed the format for the To, CC, and
BCC fields, totally for the worse in my opinion. I cannot determine how
to get more than one CC and BCC field. How is this done with a
screen-reading program?

--
Rich De Steno


The CC and BCC Fields in Thunderbird

Rich DeSteno
 

The latest version of Thunderbird changed the format for the To, CC, and BCC fields, totally for the worse in my opinion.  I cannot determine how to get more than one CC and BCC field.  How is this done with a screen-reading program?

--
Rich De Steno


Re: chrome question

John Sanfilippo
 

Hi, I'm no expert but this seems to work for me.

You may be able to press alt shift b for the bookmarks toolbar.
Once there, arrow right. You'll pass a few sites labels. You may come to something like Hidden bookmarks. Click that, there may be more there.

John


Re: chrome question

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

When you open Chrome, do alt-f then arrow down to bookmarks. It's there.

Ann P.

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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne Pomeroy
 

Hi Laz,
Thanks for your experiences with texting.

About the news, I mean texts which you can sign up for to receive news from your local stations or from places such as the New York Times or Washington Post. Although, the news is so monotonously the same everyday that I don't know why I care.

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:53 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Terri,

Yes, you can accessibly review and edit your text messages whether you entered it manually or used the voice recognition to enter your message.

I have not personally run into any text messages I wasn't able to read.

I don't know what you mean by news and similar notifications. Would these be arriving as text messages, or email messages?

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/3/20, Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl717375@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell
phone.
So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you
want it to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne







--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and accessories http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr


help needed please

Duke
 

I have a very annoying problem and I hope that someone can help me with it now. When I am downloading something, Jaws keeps announcing the download process every 3 or 5 seconds and it interrupts anything I am doing on the computer. How can I stop this nuissance please?
I am using windows 7 with jaws 16 on a dell computer.
Thanks
Douk


Re: Reading Messages in Outlook

Gene
 

You can set up a profile. I hope profile users are on the list. If not, you may nheed to join the NVDA list.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel Wilkins
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Reading Messages in Outlook

Hello Gene, I've just turned off the tables and graphics option on NVDA when I go into outlook and it works. I just need to remember to turn it back on afterwards. Is there a way to have it turn off for that programme but not for others?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 December 2020 12:44
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Reading Messages in Outlook

Turn off announcement of tables in your screen-reader.

Someone can tell you how if you tell us which screen-reader you are using.

Also, as far as Firefox is concerned, I don't use it much but I had a problem where it wasn't seeing any new messages on the server. I was using an IMAP account. I rebooted, ran the program and it installed updates, then worked properly. You may be able to solve the problem by having it update itself if it isn't current. I have no idea if that will solve the problem.
I had the problem yesterday but as I said, I don't use the program much.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel Wilkins
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Reading Messages in Outlook



Hello all, I have recently changed to MS Outlook as Thunderbird is not
picking up my emails. I’m using NVDA, and when reading messages, NVDA keeps
thinking there are tables, but when I press the T key, it says there aren’t
any tables. Is there a way to resolve this, as it can be very difficult
reading messages like that. Thank you in advance.


Re: Reading Messages in Outlook

Samuel Wilkins
 

Hello Gene, I've just turned off the tables and graphics option on NVDA when I go into outlook and it works. I just need to remember to turn it back on afterwards. Is there a way to have it turn off for that programme but not for others?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 December 2020 12:44
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Reading Messages in Outlook

Turn off announcement of tables in your screen-reader.

Someone can tell you how if you tell us which screen-reader you are using.

Also, as far as Firefox is concerned, I don't use it much but I had a problem where it wasn't seeing any new messages on the server. I was using an IMAP account. I rebooted, ran the program and it installed updates, then worked properly. You may be able to solve the problem by having it update itself if it isn't current. I have no idea if that will solve the problem.
I had the problem yesterday but as I said, I don't use the program much.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel Wilkins
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Reading Messages in Outlook



Hello all, I have recently changed to MS Outlook as Thunderbird is not
picking up my emails. I’m using NVDA, and when reading messages, NVDA keeps
thinking there are tables, but when I press the T key, it says there aren’t
any tables. Is there a way to resolve this, as it can be very difficult
reading messages like that. Thank you in advance.


Re: chrome question

Gene
 

I don't know what you mean by you saved it into a folder. Did you change the default location? To open book marks, use the sequence alt f, that is hold alt and press f to open the menu. If you don't hold alt, you may not be in the right place.
Then type the letter b to move you to book marks, and just typing b once will probably automatically open book marks. If not, press enter. It automatically opens bookmarks in my browser. If it does once, it will do so in general.

If you have problems finding the book mark, let us know. Try up or down arrowing and using first letter navigation.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 1:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome question



Hi,

I will apologize in advance for incorrect terminology.

I found a website while browsing using chrome, I then did CTRL D, I saved it into a folder.

I’m assuming here using chrome, I just saved a favorite.

Now where do I go locate where it’s at when I’d like to revisit the site?



Kimsan Song

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chrome question

Kimsan
 

Hi,

I will apologize in advance for incorrect terminology.

I found a website while browsing using chrome, I then did CTRL D, I saved it into a folder.

I’m assuming here using chrome, I just saved a favorite.

Now where do I go locate where it’s at when I’d like to revisit the site?

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: FireFox Version

Howard Traxler
 

Of course, Gene.  I understand what you're saying and I agree with your reasoning.  And I do appreciate you (and others) lecturing.  I guess what I'm not expressing strongly enough is my plain stubbornness.  I just really have a problem with someone telling me that I MUST change and try something new.  Why, ... not more than a couple months ago, I threw out my last Windows 98 SE machine.  Of course, explorer 6 wasn't doing too well on that one.  And I am still using two machines with XP on them.

But I'll get over it; and I do appreciate your patience.

Howard

On 12/3/2020 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is an explanation so what I am saying will be understandable.

Regarding your old products, there is no comparison.  The issue with browsers is that you are constantly exposed to the Internet when you use them.  Browsers are kept up to date with constant very frequent updates because new vulnerabilities to attacks by malicious people or groups are found.  These attacks may allow hackers to get information such as passwords, or other important information or use your computer for purposes you aren't aware of.  The bank may not want you to use an old browser because it is easier for criminals to steal money from your account.  Banks will refund money that has been stolen if the user isn't negligent but since they will, its reasonable for banks to protect themselves from losses by requiring that current versions of browsers be used.

Your stereo, your jeep, etc. aren't digital devices that work with the Internet.  A program like Openbook or MP3 Direct Cut doesn't place you in contact with the Internet.  It doesn't matter if you run old versions of those programs if they run on your operating system.  Browsers are an entirely different matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 7:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Well, if you folks say so, I guess I'll give the newer firefox a try.
But I remember when I started using firefox, I think it was version 58.
I had an awful time trying to get any screen reader to read it. Now it
seems that I have to use the ESR version; but it works very well. So
does my 2007 jeep, my 2002 analog TV, my 1970s stereo.  Oh well; I don't
think I'll have to be here that much longer.

On 12/3/2020 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I should add that I didn't emphasize the importance of keeping browsers up-to-date strongly to be personally critical.  there may be others who don't update Firefox because they are worried about accessibility.  If that is a concern, rather than not do it, it would be a good idea to ask here since, as I said, running an old browser is dangerous.


Gene

On 12/3/2020 3:12 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
there were some versions of Firefox that weren't accessible during a transition period perhaps two years ago but it has been accessible for over a year and a half.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 2:52 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Trying to do financial stuff at the Chase Bank and it won't let me on
until I upgrade my browser (firefox).  Looks like I'm using version 60.
It's working fine.  If it works, why should I fix it? Is anyone using a
newer firefox successfully?  I suppose if want to do Chase on-line, I'll
have to do it their way.  My local bank does the same thing; except
there, it's the size of my screen.

I'd like to threaten them jerks.  They shouldn't be able to tell you
what kind of equipment you should have.



















Re: FireFox Version

Gene
 

Here is an explanation so what I am saying will be understandable.

Regarding your old products, there is no comparison. The issue with browsers is that you are constantly exposed to the Internet when you use them. Browsers are kept up to date with constant very frequent updates because new vulnerabilities to attacks by malicious people or groups are found. These attacks may allow hackers to get information such as passwords, or other important information or use your computer for purposes you aren't aware of. The bank may not want you to use an old browser because it is easier for criminals to steal money from your account. Banks will refund money that has been stolen if the user isn't negligent but since they will, its reasonable for banks to protect themselves from losses by requiring that current versions of browsers be used.

Your stereo, your jeep, etc. aren't digital devices that work with the Internet. A program like Openbook or MP3 Direct Cut doesn't place you in contact with the Internet. It doesn't matter if you run old versions of those programs if they run on your operating system. Browsers are an entirely different matter.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 7:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Well, if you folks say so, I guess I'll give the newer firefox a try.
But I remember when I started using firefox, I think it was version 58.
I had an awful time trying to get any screen reader to read it. Now it
seems that I have to use the ESR version; but it works very well. So
does my 2007 jeep, my 2002 analog TV, my 1970s stereo. Oh well; I don't
think I'll have to be here that much longer.

On 12/3/2020 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I should add that I didn't emphasize the importance of keeping browsers up-to-date strongly to be personally critical. there may be others who don't update Firefox because they are worried about accessibility. If that is a concern, rather than not do it, it would be a good idea to ask here since, as I said, running an old browser is dangerous.


Gene

On 12/3/2020 3:12 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
there were some versions of Firefox that weren't accessible during a transition period perhaps two years ago but it has been accessible for over a year and a half.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 2:52 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Trying to do financial stuff at the Chase Bank and it won't let me on
until I upgrade my browser (firefox). Looks like I'm using version 60.
It's working fine. If it works, why should I fix it? Is anyone using a
newer firefox successfully? I suppose if want to do Chase on-line, I'll
have to do it their way. My local bank does the same thing; except
there, it's the size of my screen.

I'd like to threaten them jerks. They shouldn't be able to tell you
what kind of equipment you should have.












Re: FireFox Version

Gene
 

Don't assume things when it comes to technology. Ask here if you don't know and don't want to try something. There are all sorts of things that may mean that a program has temporary accessibility problems or the program may have long standing accessibility problems.

Firefox was going through a major new upgrade at the time you had problems with it. The technology problems have been fixed for a good while. There is nothing wrong with using old versions of programs that don't make you vulnerable to attack. A browser isn't one of those programs. It constantly exposes you to the Internet.

Also, browsing with any browser that uses The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse Mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it, means that browsing will be just about identical in any such browser. There is no reason for you to be reluctant to use another browser. For using book marks and some other things, you will have to learn a little but browsing is browsing and I am not just expressing an opinion. It is a fact that whatever browser you use, Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Edge, browsing will be either identical or just about identical and you can enter the address of a web page and move through and work with the page just as you would in any of the other browsers I mentioned.

I'm going into this because you may well find, if you try another Chrome based browser, that you prefer it for general browsing. Firefox may work better on this or that page but by in large, Firefox doesn't work as well with screen-readers.

Whatever the case, whichever you prefer, you should have one current browser other than Firefox on your machine for the infrequent cases where a web page works better enough to matter with a different browser. This won't be difficult to work with since, as I said, browsing will be s similar that you can do so without any difficulty.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 7:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Well, if you folks say so, I guess I'll give the newer firefox a try.
But I remember when I started using firefox, I think it was version 58.
I had an awful time trying to get any screen reader to read it. Now it
seems that I have to use the ESR version; but it works very well. So
does my 2007 jeep, my 2002 analog TV, my 1970s stereo. Oh well; I don't
think I'll have to be here that much longer.

On 12/3/2020 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I should add that I didn't emphasize the importance of keeping browsers up-to-date strongly to be personally critical. there may be others who don't update Firefox because they are worried about accessibility. If that is a concern, rather than not do it, it would be a good idea to ask here since, as I said, running an old browser is dangerous.


Gene

On 12/3/2020 3:12 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
there were some versions of Firefox that weren't accessible during a transition period perhaps two years ago but it has been accessible for over a year and a half.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 2:52 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Trying to do financial stuff at the Chase Bank and it won't let me on
until I upgrade my browser (firefox). Looks like I'm using version 60.
It's working fine. If it works, why should I fix it? Is anyone using a
newer firefox successfully? I suppose if want to do Chase on-line, I'll
have to do it their way. My local bank does the same thing; except
there, it's the size of my screen.

I'd like to threaten them jerks. They shouldn't be able to tell you
what kind of equipment you should have.












Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

Hi Terri,

Yes, you can accessibly review and edit your text messages whether you
entered it manually or used the voice recognition to enter your
message.

I have not personally run into any text messages I wasn't able to read.

I don't know what you mean by news and similar notifications. Would
these be arriving as text messages, or email messages?

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/3/20, Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl717375@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell
phone.
So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want
it
to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne






--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr


Re: FireFox Version

Howard Traxler
 

Well, if you folks say so, I guess I'll give the newer firefox a try.  But I remember when I started using firefox, I think it was version 58.  I had an awful time trying to get any screen reader to read it.  Now it seems that I have to use the ESR version; but it works very well.  So does my 2007 jeep, my 2002 analog TV, my 1970s stereo.  Oh well; I don't think I'll have to be here that much longer.

On 12/3/2020 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I should add that I didn't emphasize the importance of keeping browsers up-to-date strongly to be personally critical.  there may be others who don't update Firefox because they are worried about accessibility.  If that is a concern, rather than not do it, it would be a good idea to ask here since, as I said, running an old browser is dangerous.


Gene

On 12/3/2020 3:12 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
there were some versions of Firefox that weren't accessible during a transition period perhaps two years ago but it has been accessible for over a year and a half.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 2:52 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] FireFox Version

Trying to do financial stuff at the Chase Bank and it won't let me on
until I upgrade my browser (firefox).  Looks like I'm using version 60.
It's working fine.  If it works, why should I fix it? Is anyone using a
newer firefox successfully?  I suppose if want to do Chase on-line, I'll
have to do it their way.  My local bank does the same thing; except
there, it's the size of my screen.

I'd like to threaten them jerks.  They shouldn't be able to tell you
what kind of equipment you should have.











Re: FireFox Version

George McCoy
 

I respectfully suggest that, in the case of a financial institution, maybe they should. Out of date software may pose security threats that could affect lots of people. Just one opinion.  Why not update firefox? I am using the latest version, 83.0 without difficulty.

On 12/3/2020 2:52 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Trying to do financial stuff at the Chase Bank and it won't let me on until I upgrade my browser (firefox).  Looks like I'm using version 60.  It's working fine.  If it works, why should I fix it? Is anyone using a newer firefox successfully?  I suppose if want to do Chase on-line, I'll have to do it their way.  My local bank does the same thing; except there, it's the size of my screen.

I'd like to threaten them jerks.  They shouldn't be able to tell you what kind of equipment you should have.




Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

It’s the Alcatel (spelling) Go Flip3. I can't recommend it compared with other accessible feature phones, because I haven't used any other currently available phones. It has some quirkss but if you don't mind them, it has some nice features I don't know if other feature phones have such as the ability to use the Google assistant to play material on Youtube and for dictating texts, and naming files you are saving, though the accuracy isn't all that good and I often have to dictate texts two or three times.

I didn't know the Google assistant could do these things until I got not just a call and text plan, but once I switched to a plan with limited data, I started playing with it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a
mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the
mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error
or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then
write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I
hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly
where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no
space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go
back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still
there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what
is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started
dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may
not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces
understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so,
that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I
press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne Pomeroy
 

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a
mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the
mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error
or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then
write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I
hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly
where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no
space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go
back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still
there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what
is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started
dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may
not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces
understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so,
that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I
press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr. In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input. Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so, that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word. That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne Pomeroy
 

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne

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