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jaws talking clock script

Leo Bado
 

hello everyone,

does anyone know around here if the talking clock script for jaws is still working in jaws 2021?

-- I'm talking about the script that you can find in the jaws users page.

 Leo Bado

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

That's you Pam, and I mostly agree with you myself, but I've become
aware that there are some blind people out there who don't use a
computer at all but a phone to do such things as email, search the
internet, etc.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/6/20, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@gmail.com> wrote:
I wait until I am at the computer to check my email. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Monty,if I had to choose between access to a browser or an Email client
on a phone, I'd go for the second. A browser would be nice but being
able to check Email is important to me.


On 2020-12-05 5:06 p.m., Monte Single wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc, on

a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station, did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


























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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay, I thought it was the blind shell phone where you could do stuff like that. I called it a browser, because I forgot exactly what it was. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 7:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to
listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant. If an assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado































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Re: Alcatel Go Flip3

Pamela Dominguez
 

That's interesting. Because the model I have, which is one of the ones before yours, always allowed me to read the contacts in the contacts list. The only problem I have is, if I make a mistake while putting one in, I can read the whole line with the up arrow, but I can't arrow left and right to find out where my mistake is. Well, I mean, I can arrow, but it will not speak the single characters to let me find the mistake. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

As far as I know, you couldn't review what you had written buy moving
through the text. I don't know if you could write something and read it
before sending it. As I said, my phone allows me to do very clumsy editing,
but its really inconvenient. I'm curious if any other feature phones than
the Blind Shell Phone allow for proper editing. I don't text enough that I
would buy a phone bassed on that ability, but I'm curious.

While I have no idea if that ability will ever come to my phone,
accessibility did improve in an important way since I've had it. A software
update made the contacts list accessible as well as the phone log. They
weren't accessible when I got the phone. I had work arounds to work with
them but its much more convenient now.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Thanks Gene. I do like the idea of having a simple inexpensive phone which
is not a touch screen. Really, the only thing that has held me back is that
I had a Samsung Haven which was great as a phone, but the texting was
annoying. If there was anyway to review what you had written as a text, I
never figured it out. And I occasionally got a text from a friend which it
just didn't read. I was never sure why.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

It works with 4G. I would expect just about any phone now to do so. All or
most of the major carriers will close their 3g networks soon.

Quirks include a bug in the alarm. Whether that matters depends on whether
you will use the alarm and how much. If you change the alarm time, the old
time will still remaihn active for a day and the new one will be, too. So
if you want the alarm to go off at nine A.M. and it was previously set for
seven A.M., for one day, it will go off at both times.

The phone has the quirk of saying the word contacts, when you do something
to make it light up such as open the lid or press a button after a period of
inactivity when its in a power-saving state. It talks at times when it
isn't supposed to. When I'm on the phhone and I do something to make the
phone light up, it may read the time and date on the screen, if the
information regarding the time and date changes. If the minute changes, for
example, it may read the time and date.

it often won't announce something and waits for you to do something. For
example, if I move to contacts from the home screen, it often announces
contacts, search, contacts as the phone switches. For some reason, it
switches between contacts, search for search contacts, then back to contacts
again and the changes are announced. But it often will say nothing and if I
start moving through the contacts, it will read the contacts as I move
through them.

If I open the voice recorder, it may not announce the file it is on and if
it doesn't it says nothing else to tell you the program has opened. If I
move from file to file, the information will be announced or if I play the
file I am on, it will play. I can think of another quirk and there may be
ones I haven't thought of now, but I consider them worth putting up with
considering how much money I saved and that the phone does almost everything
I want reasonably well. Some people wouldn't want to put up with such
quirks but they don't bother me to any extent that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Hi Gene,
You said your Alcatel Go Flip3 has some quirks. Can you tell me what some of
them are? Also, do you know if is 4g accessible?

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It’s the Alcatel (spelling) Go Flip3. I can't recommend it compared with
other accessible feature phones, because I haven't used any other currently
available phones. It has some quirkss but if you don't mind them, it has
some nice features I don't know if other feature phones have such as the
ability to use the Google assistant to play material on Youtube and for
dictating texts, and naming files you are saving, though the accuracy isn't
all that good and I often have to dictate texts two or three times.

I didn't know the Google assistant could do these things until I got not
just a call and text plan, but once I switched to a plan with limited data,
I started playing with it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a
mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the
mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error
or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then
write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I
hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly
where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no
space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go
back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still
there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what
is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started
dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may
not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces
understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so,
that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I
press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne

















































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help for loading a 3 dot labeler

heather albright
 

Hello, I am trying to figure out how to replace my tape in my 3 dot machine. Does anyone has this? Can you tell me how to do it? I tried to follow their video. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

It has a few more apps which benefit the blind user such as a color
identifier, object tagging, music player, book reader, as well as a
translator.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Since the browser in my phone isn't accessible enough to use to any extent,

it sounds as though the Shell phone does pretty much what my phone does and

a certain amount more. I can't listen to radio stations, though I wouldn't

spend extra money for a phone just for that. I do value the FM radio my
phone makes available and I know the Blind Shell Phone also has one.

I might spend a certain amount extra for that feature.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 6:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to
listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with
speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants

can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the
limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant. If an

assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of

things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen
to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>

wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate
text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I
can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York
Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for
such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that
particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


































--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Pamela Dominguez
 

I wait until I am at the computer to check my email. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Monty,if I had to choose between access to a browser or an Email client
on a phone, I'd go for the second. A browser would be nice but being
able to check Email is important to me.


On 2020-12-05 5:06 p.m., Monte Single wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc, on a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station, did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it. Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


























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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

Yes, it has a Youtube app.

On 12/5/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with
speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants
can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the
limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant. If an
assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of
things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen to

music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I
can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



























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Re: Seeking BT keyboard to pare with 2 computers

Steve Matzura
 

The Matias keyboard wins hands down. You can get it from the AT Guys, http://www.atguys.com. It's $99 US. It can pair with up to four devices and works with Windows, Android, iOS and MacOS.

On 12/5/2020 3:33 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group,

I need a BT keyboard which will work simultaneously with my 2 Win 10 PCs. I
currently use the wireless Logitech K270 with my desktop and I like it a
lot. I'm looking for the features of the K270 (mainly full-size keyboard and
lightweight) in a keyboard which allows me to connect to my computers.
Please post your relevant suggestions.

Thanks,
Norma


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

The Blindshell classic is based on Android and uses the Google
Assistant so one can use one's voice for voice commands, dictation, as
well as to launch apps.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
We'll see what people say. I doubt it because I suspect that it uses a
digital assistant like the Google Assistant. At least on my phone, the
Google Assistant can't do so. We'll see if that is a general limitation, as

I suspect, or not.

My old phone had a completely internal speech command system and it could do

it. it was a Nuance system and could do things the Google Assistant can't
do on my phone such as tell me the battery level and the signal strength and

I believe it could dial by number as well.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions






Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit using
voice commands?




Gerald








On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages. Laz On 12/5/20,
Monte Single mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net wrote: Hi List, The Blind Shell
Classic is an interesting animal. It has a combination of features that I
like; First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception. Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.

So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages. So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which

I can dictate text messages, but it has no buttons. When it comes to
entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc, on a smart phone, I'm a

clutz. I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars. Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have

a browser. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Cheers, and live safely,

Monte -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: December 5,

2020 3:39 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell

phone questions Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a
browser. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: Saturday,
December 5, 2020 12:34 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re:
[TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions Hi Olusegun, I think that user
installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell classic; the blind shell

classic does not have a browser. -----Original Message----- From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM To:

main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions
Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you have a

smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space. For the Breaking News

you're receiving from your local radio station, did you have to install an
app on your smart toy? If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know
whether or not you can install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy

because if you can't, you'd need to weigh your options carefully with
regards to adopting it into your smart toy family. For me, to receive news
from the New York Times as an example, I must install its app on any of my
toys dedicated for such business. A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart

toy, simply alerts you when there's something cooking with respect to an app

that supports it. Example, I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys;
I'm monitoring a few stocks; so, each day as the market closes, the app
pushes to me a notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm
monitoring did for that particular day. Some E-mail apps support Push
Notification and will work the same way. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver,
Colorado







--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Pamela Dominguez
 

Which one of those phones was it that did have a small browser that would let you do just a few things? Was that the Lucia phone? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the
blind shell classic; the blind shell classic does not have
a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm
thinking you have a smart toy of some kind like many of us
in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio
station, did you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or
not you can install your own preferred apps on the
Blindshell toy because if you can't, you'd need to weigh
your options carefully with regards to adopting it into your
smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York
Times as an example, I must install its app on any of my
toys dedicated for such business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply
alerts you when there's something cooking with respect to an
app that supports it. Example, I have the Robinhood app
installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few stocks; so, each
day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a
notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm
monitoring did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the
same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


















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Re: Alcatel Go Flip3

Gene
 

No but your phone is an earlier model and that is evidently an error in accessibility in that version.

There is a language odity in my phone. It says forward when what is meant is something like dialog if it is trying to be stated that you can press enter to open a dialog. I have no idea why, its just some sort of error in language. I suspect it is the result of whomever used the incorrect word not being a native English speaker.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 6:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

I have an interesting question. My Alcatel 4044 does this. When you go to
make a call, does yours say "call incoming" instead of "call outgoing"?
I've always thought that was strange. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

It works with 4G. I would expect just about any phone now to do so. All or
most of the major carriers will close their 3g networks soon.

Quirks include a bug in the alarm. Whether that matters depends on whether
you will use the alarm and how much. If you change the alarm time, the old
time will still remaihn active for a day and the new one will be, too. So
if you want the alarm to go off at nine A.M. and it was previously set for
seven A.M., for one day, it will go off at both times.

The phone has the quirk of saying the word contacts, when you do something
to make it light up such as open the lid or press a button after a period of
inactivity when its in a power-saving state. It talks at times when it
isn't supposed to. When I'm on the phhone and I do something to make the
phone light up, it may read the time and date on the screen, if the
information regarding the time and date changes. If the minute changes, for
example, it may read the time and date.

it often won't announce something and waits for you to do something. For
example, if I move to contacts from the home screen, it often announces
contacts, search, contacts as the phone switches. For some reason, it
switches between contacts, search for search contacts, then back to contacts
again and the changes are announced. But it often will say nothing and if I
start moving through the contacts, it will read the contacts as I move
through them.

If I open the voice recorder, it may not announce the file it is on and if
it doesn't it says nothing else to tell you the program has opened. If I
move from file to file, the information will be announced or if I play the
file I am on, it will play. I can think of another quirk and there may be
ones I haven't thought of now, but I consider them worth putting up with
considering how much money I saved and that the phone does almost everything
I want reasonably well. Some people wouldn't want to put up with such
quirks but they don't bother me to any extent that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Hi Gene,
You said your Alcatel Go Flip3 has some quirks. Can you tell me what some of
them are? Also, do you know if is 4g accessible?

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It’s the Alcatel (spelling) Go Flip3. I can't recommend it compared with
other accessible feature phones, because I haven't used any other currently
available phones. It has some quirkss but if you don't mind them, it has
some nice features I don't know if other feature phones have such as the
ability to use the Google assistant to play material on Youtube and for
dictating texts, and naming files you are saving, though the accuracy isn't
all that good and I often have to dictate texts two or three times.

I didn't know the Google assistant could do these things until I got not
just a call and text plan, but once I switched to a plan with limited data,
I started playing with it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a
mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the
mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error
or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then
write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I
hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly
where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no
space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go
back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still
there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what
is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started
dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may
not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces
understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so,
that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I
press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne







































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Re: Alcatel Go Flip3

Pamela Dominguez
 

I have an interesting question. My Alcatel 4044 does this. When you go to make a call, does yours say "call incoming" instead of "call outgoing"? I've always thought that was strange. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

It works with 4G. I would expect just about any phone now to do so. All or
most of the major carriers will close their 3g networks soon.

Quirks include a bug in the alarm. Whether that matters depends on whether
you will use the alarm and how much. If you change the alarm time, the old
time will still remaihn active for a day and the new one will be, too. So
if you want the alarm to go off at nine A.M. and it was previously set for
seven A.M., for one day, it will go off at both times.

The phone has the quirk of saying the word contacts, when you do something
to make it light up such as open the lid or press a button after a period of
inactivity when its in a power-saving state. It talks at times when it
isn't supposed to. When I'm on the phhone and I do something to make the
phone light up, it may read the time and date on the screen, if the
information regarding the time and date changes. If the minute changes, for
example, it may read the time and date.

it often won't announce something and waits for you to do something. For
example, if I move to contacts from the home screen, it often announces
contacts, search, contacts as the phone switches. For some reason, it
switches between contacts, search for search contacts, then back to contacts
again and the changes are announced. But it often will say nothing and if I
start moving through the contacts, it will read the contacts as I move
through them.

If I open the voice recorder, it may not announce the file it is on and if
it doesn't it says nothing else to tell you the program has opened. If I
move from file to file, the information will be announced or if I play the
file I am on, it will play. I can think of another quirk and there may be
ones I haven't thought of now, but I consider them worth putting up with
considering how much money I saved and that the phone does almost everything
I want reasonably well. Some people wouldn't want to put up with such
quirks but they don't bother me to any extent that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Hi Gene,
You said your Alcatel Go Flip3 has some quirks. Can you tell me what some of
them are? Also, do you know if is 4g accessible?

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It’s the Alcatel (spelling) Go Flip3. I can't recommend it compared with
other accessible feature phones, because I haven't used any other currently
available phones. It has some quirkss but if you don't mind them, it has
some nice features I don't know if other feature phones have such as the
ability to use the Google assistant to play material on Youtube and for
dictating texts, and naming files you are saving, though the accuracy isn't
all that good and I often have to dictate texts two or three times.

I didn't know the Google assistant could do these things until I got not
just a call and text plan, but once I switched to a plan with limited data,
I started playing with it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a
mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the
mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error
or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then
write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I
hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly
where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no
space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go
back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still
there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what
is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started
dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may
not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces
understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so,
that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I
press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost
everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder
about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to
write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading,
neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am
writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by
line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne







































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Re: Alcatel Go Flip3

Carolyn Arnold
 

It's been a while, but back when I had my LG Revere, it read words as I texted them and announced character number. I can't remember just what that phone did, but it was the best feature phone I had, and I got it for $96 from Verizon.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

As far as I know, you couldn't review what you had written buy moving through the text. I don't know if you could write something and read it before sending it. As I said, my phone allows me to do very clumsy editing, but its really inconvenient. I'm curious if any other feature phones than the Blind Shell Phone allow for proper editing. I don't text enough that I would buy a phone bassed on that ability, but I'm curious.

While I have no idea if that ability will ever come to my phone, accessibility did improve in an important way since I've had it. A software update made the contacts list accessible as well as the phone log. They weren't accessible when I got the phone. I had work arounds to work with them but its much more convenient now.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Thanks Gene. I do like the idea of having a simple inexpensive phone which is not a touch screen. Really, the only thing that has held me back is that I had a Samsung Haven which was great as a phone, but the texting was annoying. If there was anyway to review what you had written as a text, I never figured it out. And I occasionally got a text from a friend which it just didn't read. I was never sure why.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 11:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

It works with 4G. I would expect just about any phone now to do so. All or most of the major carriers will close their 3g networks soon.

Quirks include a bug in the alarm. Whether that matters depends on whether you will use the alarm and how much. If you change the alarm time, the old time will still remaihn active for a day and the new one will be, too. So if you want the alarm to go off at nine A.M. and it was previously set for seven A.M., for one day, it will go off at both times.

The phone has the quirk of saying the word contacts, when you do something to make it light up such as open the lid or press a button after a period of inactivity when its in a power-saving state. It talks at times when it isn't supposed to. When I'm on the phhone and I do something to make the phone light up, it may read the time and date on the screen, if the information regarding the time and date changes. If the minute changes, for example, it may read the time and date.

it often won't announce something and waits for you to do something. For example, if I move to contacts from the home screen, it often announces contacts, search, contacts as the phone switches. For some reason, it switches between contacts, search for search contacts, then back to contacts again and the changes are announced. But it often will say nothing and if I start moving through the contacts, it will read the contacts as I move through them.

If I open the voice recorder, it may not announce the file it is on and if it doesn't it says nothing else to tell you the program has opened. If I move from file to file, the information will be announced or if I play the file I am on, it will play. I can think of another quirk and there may be ones I haven't thought of now, but I consider them worth putting up with considering how much money I saved and that the phone does almost everything I want reasonably well. Some people wouldn't want to put up with such quirks but they don't bother me to any extent that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Alcatel Go Flip3

Hi Gene,
You said your Alcatel Go Flip3 has some quirks. Can you tell me what some of them are? Also, do you know if is 4g accessible?

Thanks much,

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It’s the Alcatel (spelling) Go Flip3. I can't recommend it compared with other accessible feature phones, because I haven't used any other currently available phones. It has some quirkss but if you don't mind them, it has some nice features I don't know if other feature phones have such as the ability to use the Google assistant to play material on Youtube and for dictating texts, and naming files you are saving, though the accuracy isn't all that good and I often have to dictate texts two or three times.

I didn't know the Google assistant could do these things until I got not just a call and text plan, but once I switched to a plan with limited data, I started playing with it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

That is very cool. Which phone are you using?

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Not necessarily. If I'm entering text and I made or think I may have made a mistake, I have the message read. Then, since I'm immediately after the mistake, if there is one, I back space until I think I've deleted the error or the word with the error and then I have the message read again. I then write the word again. I may have to go a carachter or two bback until I hear the last carachter of the previous word is missing so I know exactly where I am starting from. I don't want to write the corrected word with no space between the previous word and the word I'm correcting. Or I may go back until I hear that the first letter of the word I'm correcting is still there or the first two letters. it depends on if I can definitely tell what is there. Sometimes, its difficult such as in the case of a double letterr.

In the word correct, for example, I would go back until just co was read.

However, my phone has limited use of the Google assistant and I've started dictating most of my messages, which, although it introduces errors that may not be picked up with the not very good screen-reader in the phone, produces understandeable messages and is much faster than using the numpad input.
Sometimes, I have to dictate a message two or three times but even so, that's often faster and easier than writing it.

I'll add that my phone reads whatever is there of the current word if I press the space bar, placing a space after the word or part of the word.
That often speeds things up a lot if I am editing in this way.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

So if there is some problem halfway through, you just delete and repeat?
TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

While I doubt I'll ever get a Blind Shell Phone because I can do almost everything I want to do with far less expensive phones, one thing I wonder about is the ability to edit text messages. My feature phone allows me to write texts and read them, but I can't have anything spelled when reading, neither can I have text announced if I want to move in a message I am writing to edit it. I can have the message I'm writing read, but not by line or by word, just the message as a whole.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Terrilynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions



Hi all,

I would like more information about using texting with the BlindShell phone.

So if you use this phone, I would like to know:



Can you reread a text you have written to make sure it says what you want it

to?



Do you have problems reading some texts that you receive?



Can you set the phone up to receive news and similar notifications?



Thanks fo any info,



TerriLynne


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

Since the browser in my phone isn't accessible enough to use to any extent, it sounds as though the Shell phone does pretty much what my phone does and a certain amount more. I can't listen to radio stations, though I wouldn't spend extra money for a phone just for that. I do value the FM radio my phone makes available and I know the Blind Shell Phone also has one.

I might spend a certain amount extra for that feature.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 6:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to
listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant. If an assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



























Re: Blindshell phone questions

Mary Smith
 

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to listen to internet radio stations.

On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting.  I wonder what system it uses  for operation with speech.  it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants can do this.  As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant.  If an assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel.  Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the  Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7  to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When  it comes to entering info,  passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the  difference between the value of  the   Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think  that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic;  the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains!  I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family.  For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



























Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized assistants can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant. If an assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all sorts of things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc,
on
a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you
have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station,
did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you
can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it
into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times
as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification
that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular
day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



























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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

We'll see what people say. I doubt it because I suspect that it uses a digital assistant like the Google Assistant. At least on my phone, the Google Assistant can't do so. We'll see if that is a general limitation, as I suspect, or not.

My old phone had a completely internal speech command system and it could do it. it was a Nuance system and could do things the Google Assistant can't do on my phone such as tell me the battery level and the signal strength and I believe it could dial by number as well.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions






Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit using voice commands?




Gerald








On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages. Laz On 12/5/20, Monte Single mailto:mrsingle@sasktel.net wrote: Hi List, The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal. It has a combination of features that I like; First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an exception. Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic. So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text messages. So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can dictate text messages, but it has no buttons. When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc, on a smart phone, I'm a clutz. I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US dollars. Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a browser. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Cheers, and live safely, Monte -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions Hi Olusegun, I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you have a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space. For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station, did you have to install an app on your smart toy? If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you can't, you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it into your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times as an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such business. A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it. Example, I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few stocks; so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular day. Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Gene
 

My feature phone allows dictation of messages. I don't know if enough others do to amount to anything. The dictation isn't bad, but it would be nice if it were more accurate, especially since messages are so extremely difficult to edit on this phone that I seldom try.

How accuracy compares between this phone and the Blinde Shell Phone would be interesting to compare.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like;
First, it has keys you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an
exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate text
messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which I can
dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers, etc, on a
smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have a
browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind shell
classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking you have
a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio station, did
you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you can
install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because if you can't,
you'd need to weigh your options carefully with regards to adopting it into
your smart toy family. For me, to receive news from the New York Times as
an example, I must install its app on any of my toys dedicated for such
business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you when
there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it. Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few stocks;
so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a notification that
lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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