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Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Shelly,
In Thunderbird when you tab from the to: field you are probably hearing something like
To with one address, use left arrow key to focus on it. Edit
This is somewhat new with Thunderbird and I believe this was introduced with releases starting with version 78.
Essentially, when you hear this you can press left arrow to move to a block of text containing the address that you entered. If you added more than one address pressing left arrow will not move character by character as it usually does but it will move from one email address to the next, similar to how Outlook behaves. Pressing the delete key will remove the address which you are focused on. Pressing enter will allow you to edit that address, allowing left and right arrow keys to move from one character to the next.
The prompt you are hearing in the spell checker which says "alt w" is JAWS reminding you that pressing alt-W moves to the edit field where you can edit the currently suggested word. If this annoys you this prompt can be turned off by going to the JAWS window, opening the Basics menu and setting "speak access keys" to the "off" option. Unfortunately, this is a global setting and doing this means that JAWS would then stop speaking these hotkeys or access keys in all applications, which you may or may not want.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 12/7/2020 5:07 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a little for me.  When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before the subject.  I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then it seems to be fine.  Is there any way to get rid of this?  I have also noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab and it never did before.  It seems to have these added things that aren't necessary.  Do any of you know if there will be another update to correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it?  Thanks in advance for any help on this matter.  I'm currently using the newest Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.







Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Gene
 

When you are in the field, you hear something like left arrow to select, enter to edit, delete to delete. If you select an address and want to add another, right arrow and you will be in the edit area, where you started. You can write an address or use autocomplete. Press enter to add the address.
You are working with a structure where the addresses are presented iin a row running right and left on the screen rather than in a list that goes up and down. Movement follows form. In this case, you left and right arrow, rather than move up and down.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 5:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

I don't use JAWS. I don't hear control w with NVDA. As far as the extra
field, you are evidently seeing a field that shows after you type an address
and tab once. If JAWS doesn't read what is said in that field, it is a
problem with JAWS. The field says something like one address, left arrow to
select. The field is there because you haven't actually placed the address
in the field until you tab once. You are now in the field with the address
and you can work with it there. When you tab again, you are in the subject
line. This won't change. It's just a different way of presenting the to
line and having it function slightly differently.than previously.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a
little for me. When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before
the subject. I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then
it seems to be fine. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have also
noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't
spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab
and it never did before. It seems to have these added things that
aren't necessary. Do any of you know if there will be another update to
correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it? Thanks in
advance for any help on this matter. I'm currently using the newest
Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.





Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Gene
 

I don't use JAWS. I don't hear control w with NVDA. As far as the extra field, you are evidently seeing a field that shows after you type an address and tab once. If JAWS doesn't read what is said in that field, it is a problem with JAWS. The field says something like one address, left arrow to select. The field is there because you haven't actually placed the address in the field until you tab once. You are now in the field with the address and you can work with it there. When you tab again, you are in the subject line. This won't change. It's just a different way of presenting the to line and having it function slightly differently.than previously.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a
little for me. When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before
the subject. I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then
it seems to be fine. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have also
noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't
spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab
and it never did before. It seems to have these added things that
aren't necessary. Do any of you know if there will be another update to
correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it? Thanks in
advance for any help on this matter. I'm currently using the newest
Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.





Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

goshawk on horseback
 

the only speakers I know of where one can adjust the bass and treble, are the Marshall ones. I like them for times when I am listening to OTR shows on my phone, as it gives me that flexibility to adjust the sound when the recordings are not so good. the Stockwell is the baby of the range, so would probably be a good addition for a laptop, as it is easy to travel with.
hope this helps.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Hill" <girlyscream@comcast.net>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 6:32 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc


Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy





Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a little for me.  When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before the subject.  I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then it seems to be fine.  Is there any way to get rid of this?  I have also noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab and it never did before.  It seems to have these added things that aren't necessary.  Do any of you know if there will be another update to correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it?  Thanks in advance for any help on this matter.  I'm currently using the newest Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.




Re: Blindshell phone questions

Monte Single
 

Hi Olusegun,

If I could coordinate my fingers, brain, and those newer android creatures
half as well as you do, I would probably have a small stable of them.
As I have said before, I can type with ten fingers, not worry much about
spelling, add/remove bits and pieces to and from a computer, but when it
comes to navigating a smart screen, I am "dos klutz"!
When I see a cross-over device like the Blind Shell classic, I think, "that
would work well for me."

But hey, things are lookin up, I can now send and receive text messages
on my iphone 7 without typing anything.
As one of my friends said recently, "you're only 25 years behind."
I can place phone calls with Cyril; Siri had a sex change so I would not
get her confused with Voiceover.
Now if I could just enter things like birth dates, credit card numbers and
all those other codes and keys using my voice on the Iphone, I would be
rockin!

Here's hoping the new year brings some good changes for myself and all my
neighbours south of the 49th.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 6, 2020 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Colonel Monte, gracious thanks for letting me know that the Blindshell toy
DOES NOT have a browser. Back in the Sybian days, I was able to install a
few apps on my Nokia N86, example, I did install Skype on it and was able to
use it. I take delight in playing with various apps for accessibility and
usability, I'd be lost without the ability to instll apps on my chosen toy
in this new era. I wonder why the developers of the Blindshell think that
the blind DO NOT NEED a toy with a broswer! Even extremely cheap toys in
Androidville do come with browsers, and they also allow one to install any
other browser of one's choice! Is this happening because they are made for
use by individuals with pairs of eyes? If YES, I need to go find six pairs
of eyes to borrow permanently.

I do agree with Chief Gene's comments regarding the price of the Blindshell
and its capabilities. I can't justify spending $350-$400 on a toy that
severely limits and/or cripples me when it comes to choosing what I want to
be able to accomplish with my toy. That said, I do need to SCRATCH MY HEAD
just to see if it would remember who GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY to MAKE CHOICES
for the blind when it comes to smart toys deployment? I suppose that any
blind person who wants the limitations set by adaptive/assistive technology
toys need not worry about teaming up with others who wave a red flag at such
limitations.

As an example in my case, I thought I would PLAY BALL AGAIN with an iPhone;
I was eyeing the SE2020 because it is AT A PRICE POINT In can live with.
Then I looked at its battery power and discovered that it is less than
2,000MAH at the minimum. Really? In Androidville, several $400 toys have
somewhere between 3,500MAH-5,000MAH batteries that pretty last for eternity
powering them. Since I SQUEEZE BLOOD out of my smart toys, I can't leave
with a smart toy whose battery could run out before I make it from my
hideout to the nearest bus stop to get on the bus and thus jumpstart my day.
Yes, I've been told a thing or two about the iPhone's battery management and
why it's better than what is the case in Androidville; but, after weighing
my options, I'm not convinced. So, playing with an iPhone for me will
remain an unsatisfied dream until something else changes somewhere down the
line.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Gene
 

I'm not asking this to be ;picky, but do you want one speaker for monaural listening, such as to a screen-reader, or a set of stereo speakers? Also, I find headphones allow me to listen at fast speeds more easily and comfortably and to be able to listen faster missing fewer words.

Have you considered headphones at least for listening to a screen-reader? I'll also add that I don't know if my comments on screen-readers and speed listening apply to all voices. I'm discussing screen-readers such as Eloquence and DecTalk but I don't like the newer voices and others can discuss them.

These days, light, comfortable headphones that can be used for hours are easily found. it is also very much cheaper to get good sound for much less money using headphones.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 12:32 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I
use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large
and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me
to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy


advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Nancy Hill
 

Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy


Roku question

Dave
 

Hello,

I noticed there are some New Roku devices this Season, and was wondering if anyone knew if any of the new units or of the older ones, that are Accessible by someone totally blind.


Thanks for any help with this,

Grumpy Dave


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Colonel Monte, gracious thanks for letting me know that the Blindshell toy
DOES NOT have a browser. Back in the Sybian days, I was able to install a
few apps on my Nokia N86, example, I did install Skype on it and was able to
use it. I take delight in playing with various apps for accessibility and
usability, I'd be lost without the ability to instll apps on my chosen toy
in this new era. I wonder why the developers of the Blindshell think that
the blind DO NOT NEED a toy with a broswer! Even extremely cheap toys in
Androidville do come with browsers, and they also allow one to install any
other browser of one's choice! Is this happening because they are made for
use by individuals with pairs of eyes? If YES, I need to go find six pairs
of eyes to borrow permanently.

I do agree with Chief Gene's comments regarding the price of the Blindshell
and its capabilities. I can't justify spending $350-$400 on a toy that
severely limits and/or cripples me when it comes to choosing what I want to
be able to accomplish with my toy. That said, I do need to SCRATCH MY HEAD
just to see if it would remember who GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY to MAKE CHOICES
for the blind when it comes to smart toys deployment? I suppose that any
blind person who wants the limitations set by adaptive/assistive technology
toys need not worry about teaming up with others who wave a red flag at such
limitations.

As an example in my case, I thought I would PLAY BALL AGAIN with an iPhone;
I was eyeing the SE2020 because it is AT A PRICE POINT In can live with.
Then I looked at its battery power and discovered that it is less than
2,000MAH at the minimum. Really? In Androidville, several $400 toys have
somewhere between 3,500MAH-5,000MAH batteries that pretty last for eternity
powering them. Since I SQUEEZE BLOOD out of my smart toys, I can't leave
with a smart toy whose battery could run out before I make it from my
hideout to the nearest bus stop to get on the bus and thus jumpstart my day.
Yes, I've been told a thing or two about the iPhone's battery management and
why it's better than what is the case in Androidville; but, after weighing
my options, I'm not convinced. So, playing with an iPhone for me will
remain an unsatisfied dream until something else changes somewhere down the
line.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: regarding the blind tech guys podcast.

 

i forgot to add.
i forgot to add, i may start a podcast with my friend.
that time i will promote it.
if the moderator doesnt want me promoting it please message me offline.
this podcast will only be for people who are android users, who want
to migrate from iphone or any other platform to android and even
others can listen to it.
we have started telegram group for it and if you like you can join the group.
https://t.me/ANATAD

hope to see you on the group and for the podcast.

On 12/7/20, Austin Pinto via groups.io
<austinpinto.xaviers=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi all.
this is my last post on this topic.
i just want to let you know that i am no longer associated with the podcast
now.
so if you have any questions or comments regarding it you can contact
the owners directly.
last sunday and the day the podcast was released i got emails
regarding the strap interview telling me it was good.
and i replied by saying i had nothing to do with calling the guest to
the podcast.
thanks for reading and sorry for spamming.






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regarding the blind tech guys podcast.

 

hi all.
this is my last post on this topic.
i just want to let you know that i am no longer associated with the podcast now.
so if you have any questions or comments regarding it you can contact
the owners directly.
last sunday and the day the podcast was released i got emails
regarding the strap interview telling me it was good.
and i replied by saying i had nothing to do with calling the guest to
the podcast.
thanks for reading and sorry for spamming.


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Laz
 

Hi Monte, I've tested MP3 and text files. The Blindshell
classic uses it's TTS voices to read any books in text format. It
probably plays OGG, WAV and other files which Android supports as
well.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/6/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi Laz,

Which book formats will the BSC read?

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: December 6, 2020 10:48 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It has a few more apps which benefit the blind user such as a color
identifier, object tagging, music player, book reader, as well as a
translator.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Since the browser in my phone isn't accessible enough to use to any
extent,

it sounds as though the Shell phone does pretty much what my phone
does and

a certain amount more. I can't listen to radio stations, though I
wouldn't

spend extra money for a phone just for that. I do value the FM radio
my phone makes available and I know the Blind Shell Phone also has one.

I might spend a certain amount extra for that feature.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 6:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to
listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with
speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized
assistants

can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the
limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant.
If an

assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all
sorts of

things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to
listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>

wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like; First, it has keys
you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate
text messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which
I can dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers,
etc, on a smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have
a browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind
shell classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking
you have a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio
station, did you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you
can install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because
if you can't, you'd need to weigh your options carefully with
regards to adopting it into your smart toy family. For me, to
receive news from the New York Times as an example, I must install
its app on any of my toys dedicated for such business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you
when there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports
it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a
few stocks; so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to
me a notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm
monitoring did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same
way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



































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Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
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Phone: 727-498-0121
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Re: Blindshell phone questions

Monte Single
 

Hi Laz,

Which book formats will the BSC read?

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: December 6, 2020 10:48 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

It has a few more apps which benefit the blind user such as a color identifier, object tagging, music player, book reader, as well as a translator.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Since the browser in my phone isn't accessible enough to use to any
extent,

it sounds as though the Shell phone does pretty much what my phone
does and

a certain amount more. I can't listen to radio stations, though I
wouldn't

spend extra money for a phone just for that. I do value the FM radio
my phone makes available and I know the Blind Shell Phone also has one.

I might spend a certain amount extra for that feature.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 6:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to
listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with
speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized
assistants

can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and that the
limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the assistant.
If an

assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be able to do all
sorts of

things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to
listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>

wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like; First, it has keys
you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate
text messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which
I can dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers,
etc, on a smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have
a browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind
shell classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking
you have a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio
station, did you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you
can install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because
if you can't, you'd need to weigh your options carefully with
regards to adopting it into your smart toy family. For me, to
receive news from the New York Times as an example, I must install
its app on any of my toys dedicated for such business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you
when there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a
few stocks; so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to
me a notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm
monitoring did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



































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Re: bluetooth headset or earbuds wanted for use when exercising

Troy Burnham
 

Thanks Andy that sounds like it may be just what I'm looking for. I'll google it and see what I can find out.

Troy

On 12/6/2020 3:03 PM, Andy wrote:
The Plantronics Backbeat Fit 3100 are designed for people who work out. They sit outside the ear, but they have hooks that go over the ear, and they fit snugly.  Also, the part that comes in contact with your ear is made of a kind of rubbery material that does a good job at repelling sweat.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Burnham" <troyburnham34@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 12:57 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] bluetooth headset or earbuds wanted for use when exercising


Hi all,

I'm looking for a reasonably priced bluetooth headset or earbuds that I can use while working out on the treadmill. I don't need anything fancy just something that sounds good when listening to music, and something that won't slide off if I should tilt my head for some reason. I've had a bluetooth headset before but the ear pieces just sat on the outside of my ears so any time I tilted my head, or sometimes if I even moved my head, the headset would slide off. I would actually prefer something that would cup around my ears to hold them on but I'll consider any recommendations.

Thanks in advance.

Troy










Re: bluetooth headset or earbuds wanted for use when exercising

Andy
 

The Plantronics Backbeat Fit 3100 are designed for people who work out. They sit outside the ear, but they have hooks that go over the ear, and they fit snugly. Also, the part that comes in contact with your ear is made of a kind of rubbery material that does a good job at repelling sweat.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Burnham" <troyburnham34@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 12:57 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] bluetooth headset or earbuds wanted for use when exercising


Hi all,

I'm looking for a reasonably priced bluetooth headset or earbuds that I can use while working out on the treadmill. I don't need anything fancy just something that sounds good when listening to music, and something that won't slide off if I should tilt my head for some reason. I've had a bluetooth headset before but the ear pieces just sat on the outside of my ears so any time I tilted my head, or sometimes if I even moved my head, the headset would slide off. I would actually prefer something that would cup around my ears to hold them on but I'll consider any recommendations.

Thanks in advance.

Troy






bluetooth headset or earbuds wanted for use when exercising

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I'm looking for a reasonably priced bluetooth headset or earbuds that I can use while working out on the treadmill. I don't need anything fancy just something that sounds good when listening to music, and something that won't slide off if I should tilt my head for some reason. I've had a bluetooth headset before but the ear pieces just sat on the outside of my ears so any time I tilted my head, or sometimes if I even moved my head, the headset would slide off. I would actually prefer something that would cup around my ears to hold them on but I'll consider any recommendations.

Thanks in advance.

Troy


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Carolyn Arnold
 

I think maybe on the Kapsys, there was Internet capability, maybe with browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Okay, I thought it was the blind shell phone where you could do stuff like that. I called it a browser, because I forgot exactly what it was. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 7:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, the phone definitely has a youtube app as well as the ability to listen to internet radio stations.


On 2020-12-05 6:52 p.m., Gene wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder what system it uses for operation with
speech. it would be interesting if any of the well recognized
assistants can do this. As I think about it, I suspect they can and
that the limitation I spoke of is likely on my phone, not of the
assistant. If an assistant is used in The Shell Phone, it should be
able to do all sorts of things.

I wonder if the phone has a built-in Youtube app, allowing you to
listen to music and other content on Youtube.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Laz
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:23 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Yes, or by contact name if the person is in your contacts.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
wrote:

Does the BlindShell have the ability to dial phone numbers by digit
using voice commands?


Gerald



On 12/5/2020 5:11 PM, Laz wrote:
Monte, You left out the ability to dictate email messages.

Laz

On 12/5/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi List,

The Blind Shell Classic is an interesting animal.
It has a combination of features that I like; First, it has keys
you can feel. Smart phone don't, there may be an exception.
Second, you can dictate text messages to the Blind Shell Classic.
So-called "feature" phones do have buttons, but you cannot dictate
text messages.
So, personally, I am living with a second-hand I phone 7 to which
I can dictate text messages, but it has no buttons.
When it comes to entering info, passwords, codes, card numbers,
etc, on a smart phone, I'm a clutz.

I would buy a Blind Shell Classic, but right now, it's just a bit
pricey
given the difference between the value of the Canadian and US
dollars.
Personally I don't care that the Blind Shell Classic does not have
a browser.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Cheers, and live safely,

Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Oh yes, I did hear that the Shell does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Hi Olusegun,

I think that user installed apps is not a feature of the blind
shell classic; the blind shell classic does not have a browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 5, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Terrilynne, pardon me for being behind the curtains! I'm thinking
you have a smart toy of some kind like many of us in this space.

For the Breaking News you're receiving from your local radio
station, did you have to install an app on your smart toy?

If YES in the affirmative, you'll need to know whether or not you
can install your own preferred apps on the Blindshell toy because
if you can't, you'd need to weigh your options carefully with
regards to adopting it into your smart toy family. For me, to
receive news from the New York Times as an example, I must install
its app on any of my toys dedicated for such business.

A Push Notification, if enabled on a smart toy, simply alerts you
when there's something cooking with respect to an app that supports it.
Example,
I have the Robinhood app installed on my toys; I'm monitoring a few
stocks; so, each day as the market closes, the app pushes to me a
notification that lets me know how well the stocks I'm monitoring
did for that particular day.
Some E-mail apps support Push Notification and will work the same way.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado































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pay pal and shipping address

Kimsan
 

Hi folks,

When using pay pal, which I don’t use often, does it automatically show your shipping address after sending a payment or can we opt not to show the shipping address.

Of course, this applies to one who just wants to pay for something but not needing anything to be shipped.

 

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Re: help for loading a 3 dot labeler

heather albright
 

No help to the video but, I figured it out! Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: heather albright via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 1:20 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] help for loading a 3 dot labeler

 

Hello, I am trying to figure out how to replace my tape in my 3 dot machine. Does anyone has this? Can you tell me how to do it? I tried to follow their video. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

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