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Re: Working with Pivot Tables

Rayn Darren
 

Did this question get answered? I would love to know if these are accessible
yet. Last I knew they weren't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Kerryann Ifill
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Working with Pivot Tables

Hi all,,

I have a spreadsheet with pivot tables involved. Could you give me any tips
on how to access the information?

Regards
Kerry


Re: Something missing from the NVDA menu?

Gene
 

I don't know why you are hearing that. If you are talking about the NVDA key n menu, it should work without modification. What happens when you use read current object on an item, if you are using the desktop layout, numpad 8. I doubt you will hear the name read out, but its worth trying.

Also, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA? Something may be corrupted.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Something missing from the NVDA menu?

Hi,

Nowadays when I navigate options in NVDA, I frequently encounter just announcements such as alt, and Alt plus. Maybe that's why I can't seem to navigate the menu? Is there a missing script, or an adjustment I must make in the latest version of Windows 10? Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Re: using firefox

Gene
 

You may want to change settings for what the browser does, for example, if it asks you where to download files or change cookie settings, but you don't need to change anything to make it perform differently or better with JAWS.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki W
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] using firefox


Hi,

I've just installed Firefox and before I set it up, I'm wondering if there are any settings which might be useful when using with JAWS. Anything I need to change?

Thanks.

Vicki


using firefox

Vicki W
 

Hi,
 
I've just installed Firefox and before I set it up, I'm wondering if there are any settings which might be useful when using with JAWS. Anything I need to change?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Something missing from the NVDA menu?

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,

Nowadays when I navigate options in NVDA, I frequently encounter just announcements such as alt, and Alt plus. Maybe that's why I can't seem to navigate the menu? Is there a missing script, or an adjustment I must make in the latest version of Windows 10? Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Nancy Hill
 

You have a very good point.  I realized that I had not specified what type speaker I was looking for after I had sent the message.


I am usually in my 'computer' room by myself and for that I would want an external speaker.  I just want to hear the words plainly.


When we travel I have used some Bose ear buds which have been good at meeting my needs and not bothering my husband while he might be watching TV.  I do not want to use ear phones or buds while at home.


So, I am looking for small speaker/s perhaps mini ones.  I do not want a sound bar because my laptop is small unless it would be reasonably priced and very light weight.  Mono would be all right, I guess, because if I wanted stereo I have a choice of ear phones or ear buds I already have.


Thanks for helping me fill out what I hope to find.


nancy

On 12/7/2020 1:57 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not asking this to be ;picky, but do you want one speaker for monaural listening, such as to a screen-reader, or a set of stereo speakers?  Also, I find headphones allow me to listen at fast speeds more easily and comfortably and to be able to listen faster missing fewer words.

Have you considered headphones at least for listening to a screen-reader? I'll also add that I don't know if my comments on screen-readers and speed listening apply to all voices.  I'm discussing screen-readers such as Eloquence and DecTalk but I don't like the newer voices and others can discuss them.

These days, light, comfortable headphones that can be used for hours are easily found.  it is also very much cheaper to get good sound for much less money using headphones.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 12:32 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I
use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large
and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me
to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy









Re: Seeking BT keyboard to pare with 2 computers

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Steve, thanks so much for your help. This keyboard looks fantastic and I'm looking forward to working with it. Best, Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Seeking BT keyboard to pare with 2 computers

The Matias keyboard wins hands down. You can get it from the AT Guys, http://www.atguys.com. It's $99 US. It can pair with up to four devices and works with Windows, Android, iOS and MacOS.


On 12/5/2020 3:33 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
Hi group,

I need a BT keyboard which will work simultaneously with my 2 Win 10
PCs. I currently use the wireless Logitech K270 with my desktop and I
like it a lot. I'm looking for the features of the K270 (mainly
full-size keyboard and
lightweight) in a keyboard which allows me to connect to my computers.
Please post your relevant suggestions.

Thanks,
Norma


Re: Roku question

Josh Kennedy
 

as far as I know the Roku devices have very poor speech. They sound like a computer voice from 1985. Also many of the applications are not fully accessible. You are better off with an Amazon fire stick, a Chromecast, or an Apple TV box.


Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I have speakers from Creative Labs. Creative Pebble V2 computer speakers.
They are excellent with nice sound. They don't have base or treble
adjustments. They cost around $30. They are round almost like a ball with a
flat front. They are USB powered. There is another version for about $20 but
have no experience with them. .

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Hill" <girlyscream@comcast.net>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:32 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc


Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I
use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large
and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me
to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy


Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Shelly,
In Thunderbird when you tab from the to: field you are probably hearing something like
To with one address, use left arrow key to focus on it. Edit
This is somewhat new with Thunderbird and I believe this was introduced with releases starting with version 78.
Essentially, when you hear this you can press left arrow to move to a block of text containing the address that you entered. If you added more than one address pressing left arrow will not move character by character as it usually does but it will move from one email address to the next, similar to how Outlook behaves. Pressing the delete key will remove the address which you are focused on. Pressing enter will allow you to edit that address, allowing left and right arrow keys to move from one character to the next.
The prompt you are hearing in the spell checker which says "alt w" is JAWS reminding you that pressing alt-W moves to the edit field where you can edit the currently suggested word. If this annoys you this prompt can be turned off by going to the JAWS window, opening the Basics menu and setting "speak access keys" to the "off" option. Unfortunately, this is a global setting and doing this means that JAWS would then stop speaking these hotkeys or access keys in all applications, which you may or may not want.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 12/7/2020 5:07 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a little for me.  When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before the subject.  I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then it seems to be fine.  Is there any way to get rid of this?  I have also noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab and it never did before.  It seems to have these added things that aren't necessary.  Do any of you know if there will be another update to correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it?  Thanks in advance for any help on this matter.  I'm currently using the newest Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.







Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Gene
 

When you are in the field, you hear something like left arrow to select, enter to edit, delete to delete. If you select an address and want to add another, right arrow and you will be in the edit area, where you started. You can write an address or use autocomplete. Press enter to add the address.
You are working with a structure where the addresses are presented iin a row running right and left on the screen rather than in a list that goes up and down. Movement follows form. In this case, you left and right arrow, rather than move up and down.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 5:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

I don't use JAWS. I don't hear control w with NVDA. As far as the extra
field, you are evidently seeing a field that shows after you type an address
and tab once. If JAWS doesn't read what is said in that field, it is a
problem with JAWS. The field says something like one address, left arrow to
select. The field is there because you haven't actually placed the address
in the field until you tab once. You are now in the field with the address
and you can work with it there. When you tab again, you are in the subject
line. This won't change. It's just a different way of presenting the to
line and having it function slightly differently.than previously.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a
little for me. When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before
the subject. I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then
it seems to be fine. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have also
noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't
spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab
and it never did before. It seems to have these added things that
aren't necessary. Do any of you know if there will be another update to
correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it? Thanks in
advance for any help on this matter. I'm currently using the newest
Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.





Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Gene
 

I don't use JAWS. I don't hear control w with NVDA. As far as the extra field, you are evidently seeing a field that shows after you type an address and tab once. If JAWS doesn't read what is said in that field, it is a problem with JAWS. The field says something like one address, left arrow to select. The field is there because you haven't actually placed the address in the field until you tab once. You are now in the field with the address and you can work with it there. When you tab again, you are in the subject line. This won't change. It's just a different way of presenting the to line and having it function slightly differently.than previously.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:07 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a
little for me. When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before
the subject. I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then
it seems to be fine. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have also
noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't
spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab
and it never did before. It seems to have these added things that
aren't necessary. Do any of you know if there will be another update to
correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it? Thanks in
advance for any help on this matter. I'm currently using the newest
Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.





Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

goshawk on horseback
 

the only speakers I know of where one can adjust the bass and treble, are the Marshall ones. I like them for times when I am listening to OTR shows on my phone, as it gives me that flexibility to adjust the sound when the recordings are not so good. the Stockwell is the baby of the range, so would probably be a good addition for a laptop, as it is easy to travel with.
hope this helps.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Hill" <girlyscream@comcast.net>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 6:32 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc


Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy





Re: thunderbird 78.5.1 accessibility configuration

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


Since I have updated to the new Thunderbird 78.5, it has changed a little for me.  When I go to send an email, there is an extra box before the subject.  I forgot what it says but I just tab to subject and then it seems to be fine.  Is there any way to get rid of this?  I have also noticed when I hit F7 to spell check, when it lands on a word that isn't spelled right, it will tell me and then it will say control W when I tab and it never did before.  It seems to have these added things that aren't necessary.  Do any of you know if there will be another update to correct this or are we going to just have to deal with it?  Thanks in advance for any help on this matter.  I'm currently using the newest Jaws which is Jaws 2021.

Shelly

On 12/5/2020 11:14 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I just did a Thunderbird upgrade. I'm running v78.5.1 with NVDA
v2020.3. It seems as if this new Thunderbird overwrote my previous
configuration, my accounts are still there but it seems to be bringing
up a lot of extra boxes, adverts, web pages, etc. I was wondering if
anyone had a thunderbird taming setup?

Thanks.
Dave.




Re: Blindshell phone questions

Monte Single
 

Hi Olusegun,

If I could coordinate my fingers, brain, and those newer android creatures
half as well as you do, I would probably have a small stable of them.
As I have said before, I can type with ten fingers, not worry much about
spelling, add/remove bits and pieces to and from a computer, but when it
comes to navigating a smart screen, I am "dos klutz"!
When I see a cross-over device like the Blind Shell classic, I think, "that
would work well for me."

But hey, things are lookin up, I can now send and receive text messages
on my iphone 7 without typing anything.
As one of my friends said recently, "you're only 25 years behind."
I can place phone calls with Cyril; Siri had a sex change so I would not
get her confused with Voiceover.
Now if I could just enter things like birth dates, credit card numbers and
all those other codes and keys using my voice on the Iphone, I would be
rockin!

Here's hoping the new year brings some good changes for myself and all my
neighbours south of the 49th.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: December 6, 2020 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindshell phone questions

Colonel Monte, gracious thanks for letting me know that the Blindshell toy
DOES NOT have a browser. Back in the Sybian days, I was able to install a
few apps on my Nokia N86, example, I did install Skype on it and was able to
use it. I take delight in playing with various apps for accessibility and
usability, I'd be lost without the ability to instll apps on my chosen toy
in this new era. I wonder why the developers of the Blindshell think that
the blind DO NOT NEED a toy with a broswer! Even extremely cheap toys in
Androidville do come with browsers, and they also allow one to install any
other browser of one's choice! Is this happening because they are made for
use by individuals with pairs of eyes? If YES, I need to go find six pairs
of eyes to borrow permanently.

I do agree with Chief Gene's comments regarding the price of the Blindshell
and its capabilities. I can't justify spending $350-$400 on a toy that
severely limits and/or cripples me when it comes to choosing what I want to
be able to accomplish with my toy. That said, I do need to SCRATCH MY HEAD
just to see if it would remember who GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY to MAKE CHOICES
for the blind when it comes to smart toys deployment? I suppose that any
blind person who wants the limitations set by adaptive/assistive technology
toys need not worry about teaming up with others who wave a red flag at such
limitations.

As an example in my case, I thought I would PLAY BALL AGAIN with an iPhone;
I was eyeing the SE2020 because it is AT A PRICE POINT In can live with.
Then I looked at its battery power and discovered that it is less than
2,000MAH at the minimum. Really? In Androidville, several $400 toys have
somewhere between 3,500MAH-5,000MAH batteries that pretty last for eternity
powering them. Since I SQUEEZE BLOOD out of my smart toys, I can't leave
with a smart toy whose battery could run out before I make it from my
hideout to the nearest bus stop to get on the bus and thus jumpstart my day.
Yes, I've been told a thing or two about the iPhone's battery management and
why it's better than what is the case in Androidville; but, after weighing
my options, I'm not convinced. So, playing with an iPhone for me will
remain an unsatisfied dream until something else changes somewhere down the
line.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Gene
 

I'm not asking this to be ;picky, but do you want one speaker for monaural listening, such as to a screen-reader, or a set of stereo speakers? Also, I find headphones allow me to listen at fast speeds more easily and comfortably and to be able to listen faster missing fewer words.

Have you considered headphones at least for listening to a screen-reader? I'll also add that I don't know if my comments on screen-readers and speed listening apply to all voices. I'm discussing screen-readers such as Eloquence and DecTalk but I don't like the newer voices and others can discuss them.

These days, light, comfortable headphones that can be used for hours are easily found. it is also very much cheaper to get good sound for much less money using headphones.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 12:32 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I
use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large
and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me
to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy


advice needed on a speaker for my pc

Nancy Hill
 

Everyone,


I have a laptop that I love...except for its speakers.


I am currently using an Anker speaker but it is heavy sounding when I use Jaws and do any other reading on my pc.


Does anyone have a recommendation for a speaker that is not too large and is very good with language?..and/or one that has the ability for me to lower the Bass and up the Treble?


Thanks for your thoughts on this matter.


nancy


Roku question

Dave
 

Hello,

I noticed there are some New Roku devices this Season, and was wondering if anyone knew if any of the new units or of the older ones, that are Accessible by someone totally blind.


Thanks for any help with this,

Grumpy Dave


Re: Blindshell phone questions

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Colonel Monte, gracious thanks for letting me know that the Blindshell toy
DOES NOT have a browser. Back in the Sybian days, I was able to install a
few apps on my Nokia N86, example, I did install Skype on it and was able to
use it. I take delight in playing with various apps for accessibility and
usability, I'd be lost without the ability to instll apps on my chosen toy
in this new era. I wonder why the developers of the Blindshell think that
the blind DO NOT NEED a toy with a broswer! Even extremely cheap toys in
Androidville do come with browsers, and they also allow one to install any
other browser of one's choice! Is this happening because they are made for
use by individuals with pairs of eyes? If YES, I need to go find six pairs
of eyes to borrow permanently.

I do agree with Chief Gene's comments regarding the price of the Blindshell
and its capabilities. I can't justify spending $350-$400 on a toy that
severely limits and/or cripples me when it comes to choosing what I want to
be able to accomplish with my toy. That said, I do need to SCRATCH MY HEAD
just to see if it would remember who GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY to MAKE CHOICES
for the blind when it comes to smart toys deployment? I suppose that any
blind person who wants the limitations set by adaptive/assistive technology
toys need not worry about teaming up with others who wave a red flag at such
limitations.

As an example in my case, I thought I would PLAY BALL AGAIN with an iPhone;
I was eyeing the SE2020 because it is AT A PRICE POINT In can live with.
Then I looked at its battery power and discovered that it is less than
2,000MAH at the minimum. Really? In Androidville, several $400 toys have
somewhere between 3,500MAH-5,000MAH batteries that pretty last for eternity
powering them. Since I SQUEEZE BLOOD out of my smart toys, I can't leave
with a smart toy whose battery could run out before I make it from my
hideout to the nearest bus stop to get on the bus and thus jumpstart my day.
Yes, I've been told a thing or two about the iPhone's battery management and
why it's better than what is the case in Androidville; but, after weighing
my options, I'm not convinced. So, playing with an iPhone for me will
remain an unsatisfied dream until something else changes somewhere down the
line.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: regarding the blind tech guys podcast.

 

i forgot to add.
i forgot to add, i may start a podcast with my friend.
that time i will promote it.
if the moderator doesnt want me promoting it please message me offline.
this podcast will only be for people who are android users, who want
to migrate from iphone or any other platform to android and even
others can listen to it.
we have started telegram group for it and if you like you can join the group.
https://t.me/ANATAD

hope to see you on the group and for the podcast.

On 12/7/20, Austin Pinto via groups.io
<austinpinto.xaviers=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi all.
this is my last post on this topic.
i just want to let you know that i am no longer associated with the podcast
now.
so if you have any questions or comments regarding it you can contact
the owners directly.
last sunday and the day the podcast was released i got emails
regarding the strap interview telling me it was good.
and i replied by saying i had nothing to do with calling the guest to
the podcast.
thanks for reading and sorry for spamming.






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