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Re: is there a downside to using open drive?

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Only the annual plan which might save you a few dollars. But the monthly plan lets you jump out any time you want.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

Thanks for your thoughts merve. I see they have a plan for $9.95 per month. Is there any better? I think I like open drive as well. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

I have used iCloud, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, Open Drive, Send space and probably one or two I haven’t remembered. And I like Open Drive the best so far. It is fast, easy to use, easy to maintain as far as file structure, and price competitive. The only downside I have really found is in user stats. I haven’t found a way to track what I upload and download like I did with Send space. But I didn’t with most of the other cloud services either.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:58 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

I know that there is a cost for it, but what mean, is, does it really well? And is there another program that works just as well? Jims


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Juan Gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...>
 

Putting my two cents into this topic. I was a big dell computer guy but this year I decided to go with the Lenovo Legion i5 and I would not look back. This is a power house and for the price it was right. I would not recommend this computer to some one who needs it for portability cause this is a gaming computer but Lenovo’s productivity laptops are great as well. My Girlfriend has a Lenovo ultra book and it has lasted her for a long time. You really cannot go wrong with Lenovo right now.

 

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

                    

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

 

Janet, as I understand it, Lenovo is a Chinese division of

IBM>

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io

[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:41 PM

To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

 

Hi Everyone,

I just want to thank those who said they have a Lenovo, as I

never heard of them.  So, by the few people who did let me

know their experience with Lenovo, makes me feel more

comfortable, as this is the first time I even heard of

Lenovo Laptops.  This also gives me more confidence. 

Thank you again.

 

Janet

 

Peace Be With You.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: is there a downside to using open drive?

Jim Rawls
 

Thanks for your thoughts merve. I see they have a plan for $9.95 per month. Is there any better? I think I like open drive as well. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

I have used iCloud, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, Open Drive, Send space and probably one or two I haven’t remembered. And I like Open Drive the best so far. It is fast, easy to use, easy to maintain as far as file structure, and price competitive. The only downside I have really found is in user stats. I haven’t found a way to track what I upload and download like I did with Send space. But I didn’t with most of the other cloud services either.

Merv

 

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:58 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

I know that there is a cost for it, but what mean, is, does it really well? And is there another program that works just as well? Jims


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Janet, as I understand it, Lenovo is a Chinese division of
IBM>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:41 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Everyone,
I just want to thank those who said they have a Lenovo, as I
never heard of them. So, by the few people who did let me
know their experience with Lenovo, makes me feel more
comfortable, as this is the first time I even heard of
Lenovo Laptops. This also gives me more confidence.
Thank you again.

Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Brent Harding
 

That would seem hard. I think Apple did a similar kind of thing with Mac OS,
but using BAS underneath it instead. However, I doubt they kept much
compatibility when they went from whatever they had before to OSX, but
either way, it would be a hard thing to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in
favor of Linux!

I don't understand the technical ramifications. How could all the old
Windows programs continue to run? Microsoft has always put a lot of
importance on backward compatibility for products going back a number of
years. Is this article discussing a change to a version of Linux that
mimics Windows in its structures and design? If it weren't for
compatibility, that might make sense but, unless there is something I don't
understand, how would it be done? With some sort of emulator, I would think
the resources needed would make it a very inefficient proposition.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:48 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in
favor of Linux!

Hi all,

Hmmm, if Microsoft were to do this, it would fly in the face of everything
that Linux and Linuxers stand for. Open Source licensing would be abregated
because Microsoft would still charge for its software. I don't think this
would happen, but then, I didn't think we'd have the president we have and I
didn't think we'd have a pandemic.

Ann P.


Original message:
Hi Everyone,
I just happen to come across this. and thought I would share, as some
people might be interested.
Janet
?
by Jack Wallen in Software on October 9, 2020, 8:16 AM PST Microsoft
Linux is the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system,
argues Jack Wallen. He explains why this would be a win-win for
Microsoft, IT pros, users, and the Linux community.
My esteemed colleague Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols penned an outstanding
piece on sister site ZDNet titled Linux-based Windows makes perfect
sense in which he discussed Eric S. Raymond's point of view that we
are nearing the last phase of the desktop wars. Vaughan-Nichols posits
that the next logical step would be the Windows interface running on
top of the Linux kernel.
It makes sense, especially given how hard Microsoft is working on
Windows Subsystem for Linux. However, from everything I've witnessed
over the last few years, I think there's a conclusion to be drawn that
makes even more sense for Microsoft.
Microsoft Linux: Why it's the best solution At one point, the big cash
cow for Microsoft was software--Windows and Microsoft Office to be
exact. But, as with everything in the tech industry, evolution
happens. Tech companies that refuse to evolve fail.
Microsoft gets that, and it has evolved. Case in point: Microsoft Azure.
Microsoft's cloud computing service, as well as AWS and Google Cloud,
have been massive driving forces in an ever-changing industry. Azure
has become Microsoft's new world cash cow--so much so the company that
has enjoyed a stranglehold on the desktop market has begun to realize
there might be better ways to leverage the desktop.
That leverage could easily come by way of Linux, but not the Linux
you're probably thinking of. The Linux that Vaughan-Nichols suggests
could be a good stepping stone for Microsoft, but I believe the
company needs to make a much bigger leap. I'm talking moon
landing-sized leap--one that will make life a lot easier for all involved.
I'm talking about diving deep into the Linux waters. Forget about a
version of the desktop with a Windows 10 interface running on the
Linux kernel and finally admit that Microsoft Linux might be the best
solution for today's world.
A full-on Linux distribution released by Microsoft would mean less
frustration for all involved. Microsoft could shift its development
efforts on the Windows 10 desktop to a desktop that would be more
stable, dependable, flexible, and proven. Microsoft could select from
any number of desktops for its official flavor: GNOME, KDE, Pantheon,
Xfce, Mint, Cinnamon... the list goes on and on. Microsoft could use
that desktop as is or contribute to it and create something that's
more in-line with what its users are accustomed to.
Development: Microsoft isn't off the hook This doesn't mean Microsoft
would be off the hook in terms of development.
Microsoft would also want to make major contributions to Wine in order
to ensure all of its products work smoothly with the compatibility
layer and are rolled into the operating system by default so the end
user doesn't have to do anything extra in order to install Windows
applications.
Windows users need Defender
The Microsoft dev teams would also want to port Windows Defender to
this new distribution. Wait. What? Am I seriously suggesting that MS
Linux would need Windows Defender? Yes, I am. Why?
End users still need protection from phishing scams, malicious URLs,
and other types of attacks. The average Windows user might not realize
that the combination of Linux and safe usage practices is far more
secure than Windows 10 and Windows Defender. So, yeah, porting Windows
Defender to Microsoft Linux would be a good step into keeping the user
base comfortable.
Those users would very quickly learn what it's like to work on a
desktop computer and not have to deal with the daily frustrations that
come with the Windows operating system. Updates are smoother and more
trustworthy, it's secure, and the desktop just makes more sense.
Win-win for Microsoft, users, and IT pros Microsoft has been doing
everything in its power to migrate users from the standard
client-based software to cloud and other hosted solutions, and its
software cash cow has become web-centric and subscription-based. All
of those Linux users could still work with Microsoft 365 and any other
Software as a Service (SaaS) solution it has to offer--all from the
comfort and security of the Linux operating system.
That's a win-win for Microsoft and consumers because Windows isn't as
much of a headache to deal with (by way of bug hunting and security
patching its proprietary solutions), and consumers get a more reliable
solution without missing out on anything. If Microsoft plays its cards
right, the company could re-theme KDE or just about any Linux desktop
in such a way that it's not all that different from the Windows 10
interface.
Lay this out right, and consumers might not even know the
difference--a "Windows 11" would simply be the next evolution of the
Microsoft desktop operating system.
Speaking of winning, IT pros would spend less time dealing with
viruses, malware, and operating system issues and more time on keeping
the network (and the servers powering that network) running and secure.
What about the big box stores?
This is where the rubber meets the road. In order to make this really
work, Microsoft would have to completely drop Windows for its flavor
of Linux. In that same vein, Microsoft would need to ensure that big
box stores stocked PCs complete with Microsoft Linux. There would be
no room for half measures--Microsoft would have to go all in to ensure
this transition was a success.
Once the big box stores started selling PCs and laptops with Microsoft
Linux installed, I predict this initiative would be a huge success for
all involved. Microsoft would be seen as finally shipping an operating
system worthy of the consumer; the consumer would have a desktop
operating system that didn't deliver as many headaches as it did
moments of actual productivity and joy; and the Linux community would
finally dominate the desktop.
Microsoft Linux: The time is now
You might think this idea is crazy, but if you really think about it,
the evolution of Microsoft Windows is pointing in this direction. Why
not bypass the halfway portion of this timeline and jump directly to
an end game that spells success for all involved? The time for
Microsoft Linux is now!




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Portal Tutoring
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Re: Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Brian Zolo
 

You're most welcome, if you need help getting around in windows ten or
getting icons added to your desktop, don't hesitate to ask we'll be happy to
show you how to get around in windows ten. Merry christmas1 BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hi BZ,
Ok thank you for this as I didn't know that, as I never even looked in to
Windows 10 until now. This is great to hear. One less thing I have to
download! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio feel free to call me BZ,
grin! You've got the most accessible security built right into windows ten
with windows defender. Don't bother with micro security. That's just my
$0.02 worth, grin! BZ1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:36 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Best Buy is now sending me an offer of Micro Internet Security free for 6
months to download. My question is how accessible is Micro Internet
Security. I will be using Windows 10, JAWS 2021.

I appreciate any advice.


Janet
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Re: Envision AI

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I tried with Google account, email, apple an non worked.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen West" <alwest0324@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Envision AI


I just logged in with my iPhone. It was very easy. Can we get more info on
how you are trying to log in?

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Envision AI

Request you to login with your Google account please?

On 12/23/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass
the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.






Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

correct, HJPad can not open a current Word document but Word Pad works great.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

JARTE can read current Word formats. If you try to read one, a dialog opens
telling you you need the Microsoft compatibility pack which you install and
JARTE can then read the files. As I recall, a link is provided in the
dialog where you download the pack.

In addition, Wordpad can read such files. We don't know how you want to use
a word processor but HJ pad offers a spelll checker and workss with older
formats, I don't think the compatibility pack will allow it to read docx
files, but you can try. You may not need anything but Wordpad and HJ Pad.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hello Jan,


Yes, if someone sent you a file from 2019 MS Word, jarte would not read
the file.


Now if you save a file from jarte, MS Word 2019 could probably read it
as it has the ability to read files formatted in earlier file formats.


I still have MS Word, because last year, I was sending out Resumes' and
I needed to send it in a form easily read by HR people.


Before I owned MS Word, I would send my Resume' in the RTF format, and I
never had anyone complain about it, as it is easily read by MS Word as
well.


But, when looking for work, you can never tell what small little thing
will bug some HR person enough they Round File your application.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:
Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave


































Re: Word Processor Suggestions Help Please.

Josh Kennedy
 

The Lenovo I am looking at has an aMD rYZEN5 processor. And reviewer said that it is capable of playing modern video games such as Grandtheft auto five, madden NFL, and others at moderate frame rates. So I figure that for me a person who uses jaws or NVDA, that this Lenovo computer for around $500 with the Vega eight graphics, should meet my needs just fine. It has eight gigs of memory and Radion or I'm sorry Vega eight graphics. it has Vega eight graphics and it has a 256 GB solid-state NVM E Drive. 


Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Gene
 

I don't understand the technical ramifications. How could all the old Windows programs continue to run? Microsoft has always put a lot of importance on backward compatibility for products going back a number of years. Is this article discussing a change to a version of Linux that mimics Windows in its structures and design? If it weren't for compatibility, that might make sense but, unless there is something I don't understand, how would it be done? With some sort of emulator, I would think the resources needed would make it a very inefficient proposition.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:48 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Hi all,

Hmmm, if Microsoft were to do this, it would fly in the face of
everything that Linux and Linuxers stand for. Open Source licensing
would be abregated because Microsoft would still charge for its
software. I don't think this would happen, but then, I didn't think
we'd have the president we have and I didn't think we'd have a pandemic.

Ann P.


Original message:
Hi Everyone,
I just happen to come across this. and thought I would share, as some people might be interested.
Janet
?
by Jack Wallen in Software on October 9, 2020, 8:16 AM PST
Microsoft Linux is the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system, argues Jack Wallen. He explains why this would be a win-win for Microsoft, IT pros, users, and the Linux community.
My esteemed colleague Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols penned an outstanding piece on sister site ZDNet titled Linux-based Windows makes perfect sense in which he discussed Eric S. Raymond's point of view that we are nearing the last phase of the desktop wars. Vaughan-Nichols posits that the next logical step would be the Windows interface running on top of the Linux kernel.
It makes sense, especially given how hard Microsoft is working on Windows Subsystem for Linux. However, from everything I've witnessed over the last few years, I think there's a conclusion to be drawn that makes even more sense for Microsoft.
Microsoft Linux: Why it's the best solution
At one point, the big cash cow for Microsoft was software--Windows and Microsoft Office to be exact. But, as with everything in the tech industry, evolution happens. Tech companies that refuse to evolve fail.
Microsoft gets that, and it has evolved. Case in point: Microsoft Azure. Microsoft's cloud computing service, as well as AWS and Google Cloud, have been massive driving forces in an ever-changing industry. Azure has become Microsoft's new world cash cow--so much so the company that has enjoyed a stranglehold on the desktop market has begun to realize there might be better ways to leverage the desktop.
That leverage could easily come by way of Linux, but not the Linux you're probably thinking of. The Linux that Vaughan-Nichols suggests could be a good stepping stone for Microsoft, but I believe the company needs to make a much bigger leap. I'm talking moon landing-sized leap--one that will make life a lot easier for all involved.
I'm talking about diving deep into the Linux waters. Forget about a version of the desktop with a Windows 10 interface running on the Linux kernel and finally admit that Microsoft Linux might be the best solution for today's world.
A full-on Linux distribution released by Microsoft would mean less frustration for all involved. Microsoft could shift its development efforts on the Windows 10 desktop to a desktop that would be more stable, dependable, flexible, and proven. Microsoft could select from any number of desktops for its official flavor: GNOME, KDE, Pantheon, Xfce, Mint, Cinnamon... the list goes on and on. Microsoft could use that desktop as is or contribute to it and create something that's more in-line with what its users are accustomed to.
Development: Microsoft isn't off the hook
This doesn't mean Microsoft would be off the hook in terms of development. Microsoft would also want to make major contributions to Wine in order to ensure all of its products work smoothly with the compatibility layer and are rolled into the operating system by default so the end user doesn't have to do anything extra in order to install Windows applications.
Windows users need Defender
The Microsoft dev teams would also want to port Windows Defender to this new distribution. Wait. What? Am I seriously suggesting that MS Linux would need Windows Defender? Yes, I am. Why?
End users still need protection from phishing scams, malicious URLs, and other types of attacks. The average Windows user might not realize that the combination of Linux and safe usage practices is far more secure than Windows 10 and Windows Defender. So, yeah, porting Windows Defender to Microsoft Linux would be a good step into keeping the user base comfortable.
Those users would very quickly learn what it's like to work on a desktop computer and not have to deal with the daily frustrations that come with the Windows operating system. Updates are smoother and more trustworthy, it's secure, and the desktop just makes more sense.
Win-win for Microsoft, users, and IT pros
Microsoft has been doing everything in its power to migrate users from the standard client-based software to cloud and other hosted solutions, and its software cash cow has become web-centric and subscription-based. All of those Linux users could still work with Microsoft 365 and any other Software as a Service (SaaS) solution it has to offer--all from the comfort and security of the Linux operating system.
That's a win-win for Microsoft and consumers because Windows isn't as much of a headache to deal with (by way of bug hunting and security patching its proprietary solutions), and consumers get a more reliable solution without missing out on anything. If Microsoft plays its cards right, the company could re-theme KDE or just about any Linux desktop in such a way that it's not all that different from the Windows 10 interface.
Lay this out right, and consumers might not even know the difference--a "Windows 11" would simply be the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system.
Speaking of winning, IT pros would spend less time dealing with viruses, malware, and operating system issues and more time on keeping the network (and the servers powering that network) running and secure.
What about the big box stores?
This is where the rubber meets the road. In order to make this really work, Microsoft would have to completely drop Windows for its flavor of Linux. In that same vein, Microsoft would need to ensure that big box stores stocked PCs complete with Microsoft Linux. There would be no room for half measures--Microsoft would have to go all in to ensure this transition was a success.
Once the big box stores started selling PCs and laptops with Microsoft Linux installed, I predict this initiative would be a huge success for all involved. Microsoft would be seen as finally shipping an operating system worthy of the consumer; the consumer would have a desktop operating system that didn't deliver as many headaches as it did moments of actual productivity and joy; and the Linux community would finally dominate the desktop.
Microsoft Linux: The time is now
You might think this idea is crazy, but if you really think about it, the evolution of Microsoft Windows is pointing in this direction. Why not bypass the halfway portion of this timeline and jump directly to an end game that spells success for all involved? The time for Microsoft Linux is now!




--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Depends on what distribution of Linux you're talking about. Ubuntu works will. So does Debian, since there was and probably still is a core of dedicated blind and VI developers.

It's been a while since I played around with Linux, but I think there have been improvements.

I don't know about audio stuff because I'm not into that. My main reason for doubting the original poster is that I don't think dyed in the wool Linuxers would allow it to happen, and Microsoft wouldn't abide by the licensing of Linux.

Ann P.

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Word Processor Suggestions Help Please.

Josh Kennedy
 

I like computers with the AMD ryzen  processors. They work very good, and I think they are much faster than Intel processor's. Lenovo also sells such computers.


Re: Envision AI

Allen West
 

I just logged in with my iPhone. It was very easy. Can we get more info on how you are trying to log in?

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Envision AI

Request you to login with your Google account please?

On 12/23/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass
the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.






Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Josh Kennedy
 

Linux is horrible as far as it's audio drivers and accessibility. Not to mention that wine is almost completely in accessible. So Microsoft would have a lot of work to do in order to make it just as accessible as windows is. Not to mention every piece of window software would have to be rewritten from the ground up. No I don't think this is going to happen. Not anytime soon. Maybe in 20 or 30 years, but not anytime soon.


Re: Envision AI

Bharat
 

Request you to login with your Google account please?

On 12/23/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass
the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.






Envision AI

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.


Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Hmmm, if Microsoft were to do this, it would fly in the face of everything that Linux and Linuxers stand for. Open Source licensing would be abregated because Microsoft would still charge for its software. I don't think this would happen, but then, I didn't think we'd have the president we have and I didn't think we'd have a pandemic.

Ann P.


Original message:

Hi Everyone,
I just happen to come across this. and thought I would share, as some people might be interested.
Janet
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by Jack Wallen in Software on October 9, 2020, 8:16 AM PST
Microsoft Linux is the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system, argues Jack Wallen. He explains why this would be a win-win for Microsoft, IT pros, users, and the Linux community.
My esteemed colleague Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols penned an outstanding piece on sister site ZDNet titled Linux-based Windows makes perfect sense in which he discussed Eric S. Raymond's point of view that we are nearing the last phase of the desktop wars. Vaughan-Nichols posits that the next logical step would be the Windows interface running on top of the Linux kernel.
It makes sense, especially given how hard Microsoft is working on Windows Subsystem for Linux. However, from everything I've witnessed over the last few years, I think there's a conclusion to be drawn that makes even more sense for Microsoft.
Microsoft Linux: Why it's the best solution
At one point, the big cash cow for Microsoft was software--Windows and Microsoft Office to be exact. But, as with everything in the tech industry, evolution happens. Tech companies that refuse to evolve fail.
Microsoft gets that, and it has evolved. Case in point: Microsoft Azure. Microsoft's cloud computing service, as well as AWS and Google Cloud, have been massive driving forces in an ever-changing industry. Azure has become Microsoft's new world cash cow--so much so the company that has enjoyed a stranglehold on the desktop market has begun to realize there might be better ways to leverage the desktop.
That leverage could easily come by way of Linux, but not the Linux you're probably thinking of. The Linux that Vaughan-Nichols suggests could be a good stepping stone for Microsoft, but I believe the company needs to make a much bigger leap. I'm talking moon landing-sized leap--one that will make life a lot easier for all involved.
I'm talking about diving deep into the Linux waters. Forget about a version of the desktop with a Windows 10 interface running on the Linux kernel and finally admit that Microsoft Linux might be the best solution for today's world.
A full-on Linux distribution released by Microsoft would mean less frustration for all involved. Microsoft could shift its development efforts on the Windows 10 desktop to a desktop that would be more stable, dependable, flexible, and proven. Microsoft could select from any number of desktops for its official flavor: GNOME, KDE, Pantheon, Xfce, Mint, Cinnamon... the list goes on and on. Microsoft could use that desktop as is or contribute to it and create something that's more in-line with what its users are accustomed to.
Development: Microsoft isn't off the hook
This doesn't mean Microsoft would be off the hook in terms of development. Microsoft would also want to make major contributions to Wine in order to ensure all of its products work smoothly with the compatibility layer and are rolled into the operating system by default so the end user doesn't have to do anything extra in order to install Windows applications.
Windows users need Defender
The Microsoft dev teams would also want to port Windows Defender to this new distribution. Wait. What? Am I seriously suggesting that MS Linux would need Windows Defender? Yes, I am. Why?
End users still need protection from phishing scams, malicious URLs, and other types of attacks. The average Windows user might not realize that the combination of Linux and safe usage practices is far more secure than Windows 10 and Windows Defender. So, yeah, porting Windows Defender to Microsoft Linux would be a good step into keeping the user base comfortable.
Those users would very quickly learn what it's like to work on a desktop computer and not have to deal with the daily frustrations that come with the Windows operating system. Updates are smoother and more trustworthy, it's secure, and the desktop just makes more sense.
Win-win for Microsoft, users, and IT pros
Microsoft has been doing everything in its power to migrate users from the standard client-based software to cloud and other hosted solutions, and its software cash cow has become web-centric and subscription-based. All of those Linux users could still work with Microsoft 365 and any other Software as a Service (SaaS) solution it has to offer--all from the comfort and security of the Linux operating system.
That's a win-win for Microsoft and consumers because Windows isn't as much of a headache to deal with (by way of bug hunting and security patching its proprietary solutions), and consumers get a more reliable solution without missing out on anything. If Microsoft plays its cards right, the company could re-theme KDE or just about any Linux desktop in such a way that it's not all that different from the Windows 10 interface.
Lay this out right, and consumers might not even know the difference--a "Windows 11" would simply be the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system.
Speaking of winning, IT pros would spend less time dealing with viruses, malware, and operating system issues and more time on keeping the network (and the servers powering that network) running and secure.
What about the big box stores?
This is where the rubber meets the road. In order to make this really work, Microsoft would have to completely drop Windows for its flavor of Linux. In that same vein, Microsoft would need to ensure that big box stores stocked PCs complete with Microsoft Linux. There would be no room for half measures--Microsoft would have to go all in to ensure this transition was a success.
Once the big box stores started selling PCs and laptops with Microsoft Linux installed, I predict this initiative would be a huge success for all involved. Microsoft would be seen as finally shipping an operating system worthy of the consumer; the consumer would have a desktop operating system that didn't deliver as many headaches as it did moments of actual productivity and joy; and the Linux community would finally dominate the desktop.
Microsoft Linux: The time is now
You might think this idea is crazy, but if you really think about it, the evolution of Microsoft Windows is pointing in this direction. Why not bypass the halfway portion of this timeline and jump directly to an end game that spells success for all involved? The time for Microsoft Linux is now!




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Ann K. Parsons
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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Repeated prompting for Apple account password on iPhone SE 2020

Vicki W
 

I kept getting this until I did the update and then I had to do it for the ITunes store in order to update my apps. I just got another sign in prompt last night. I'm getting them on both my older SE and my older mini IPAD.
 
Vicki
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repeated prompting for Apple account password on iPhone SE 2020

Anyone else having a situation where your phone keeps asking for your Apple password?  Last evening, my phone prompted me to re-enter my password.  I did, and then got a notification that my Apple account was locked.  I followed the instructions and unlocked it, but I continue to be prompted to enter my password.  I wonder if I have been hacked.  I know that there is a storm of foreign hacking going on.  Thanks in advance for your input.


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Thomas N. Chan
 

Depends, some of them comes with one year of office365.
Most of it, they are just luring you to get their subscription.
Because if you stop paying, you can't really edit your documents or spreadsheet anymore etc.



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regards
Thomas N. Chan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, 22 December 2020 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Often Microsoft office will come installed on new computers, but it's usually a 30 day trial. I have not heard of office coming free other than the trial version.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 22, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I wonder what free means. It could be a demo that will time out or it could be something bundled with the computer but if it is a free bundle, it may well increase the cost of the computer. I haven't seen anything on how much, but I'd be suspicious that you are paying something.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today. However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me, but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Gene
 

JARTE can read current Word formats. If you try to read one, a dialog opens telling you you need the Microsoft compatibility pack which you install and JARTE can then read the files. As I recall, a link is provided in the dialog where you download the pack.

In addition, Wordpad can read such files. We don't know how you want to use a word processor but HJ pad offers a spelll checker and workss with older formats, I don't think the compatibility pack will allow it to read docx files, but you can try. You may not need anything but Wordpad and HJ Pad.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hello Jan,


Yes, if someone sent you a file from 2019 MS Word, jarte would not read
the file.


Now if you save a file from jarte, MS Word 2019 could probably read it
as it has the ability to read files formatted in earlier file formats.


I still have MS Word, because last year, I was sending out Resumes' and
I needed to send it in a form easily read by HR people.


Before I owned MS Word, I would send my Resume' in the RTF format, and I
never had anyone complain about it, as it is easily read by MS Word as
well.


But, when looking for work, you can never tell what small little thing
will bug some HR person enough they Round File your application.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:
Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave

































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