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Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Gene
 

I don't know how the file associations function determines what is listed, but on my Windows 7 computer, wave isn't in the list and neither is MP3.  I haven't checked further but I suspect no audio file types are.  Its an interesting question why that is.


Gene

On 1/2/2021 12:34 PM, Blaster wrote:

Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster


On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:
David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

























Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Blaster
 

Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster

On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:
David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY




























Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Mike B.
 

The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right and left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along, including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor, and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster  <blaster.nil8@...>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

>
>
> Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
> only that they are installed on your pc.  Windows will pick and choose
> which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
> you can try.  Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
> up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
> with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
> file associations, but it's worth a try.
>
> Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
> open a file explorer window.
>
> Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.
>
> Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.
>
> Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
> you use a laptop, to open the context window.
>
> Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
> and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.
>
> Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
> titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.
>
> In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
> In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
> jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
> associated file type.
>
> Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
> press the enter key.
>
> You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
> still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
> media player and starts to pley.
>
> Good luck,
> Blaster
>
>
>
> On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@...> wrote:
> >  David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.
> >
> > I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.
> >
> > I hope you or others have more ideas.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Joe G.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Blaster  <blaster.nil8@...>
> > To: main@techtalk.groups.io
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
> >> player and VLC has become corrupted.  You can get the K-lite codec
> >> pack from this website:
> >>
> >> https://ninite.com/accessible
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Blaster
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> >> > I don't know what is causing the problem.  Try selecting a file in the
> >> > list,
> >> >
> >> > and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context menu
> >> > and
> >> > press enter on open and play.  While I doubt this will cause the file
> >> > to
> >> > play, you never know.
> >> >
> >> > But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.
> >> >
> >> > Gene
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Joe Giovanelli
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
> >> > To: techtalk@groups.io
> >> > Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files
> >> >
> >> > Hi, Listers,
> >> >
> >> > I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no longer
> >> > will
> >> >
> >> > let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media Player
> >> > is
> >> >
> >> > the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and wave
> >> > files
> >> >
> >> > still do not play.
> >> >
> >> > I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
> >> > software
> >> >
> >> > cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
> >> > restore
> >> >
> >> > point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
> >> > good.
> >> >
> >> > There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection is
> >> > now
> >> >
> >> > on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.
> >> >
> >> > In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files, but
> >> > I
> >> > don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
> >> > what I
> >> >
> >> > would have to do in order to play a CDE.
> >> >
> >> > I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.
> >> >
> >> > Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>





Re: EPUB Reader

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

The Thorium app works well. You can get it from the Windows store. It's what the Daisy consortium recommends for ePub.


EPUB Reader

Akshaya Choudhary
 

 Hello everyone,

Can someone suggest a good EPUB reader?  I personally enjoyed using Microsoft  Edge, but it doesn't read EPUB files anymore. Currently, I'm using Acrobat DC, but it is not as smooth as MS Edge. It hangs while handling large files.

All suggestions are welcome

Regards


Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along, including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor, and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:
David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files, but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY




















Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Gene
 

I wouldn't remove them even if I was getting rid of all
versions of JAWS, unless I absolutely knew that nothing else was using any of those components. For example, if someone has Openbook, getting rid of shared components might mean that they would no longer have speech in Openbook. They would have to reinstall something, Openbook, a version of JAWS, to get speech back. And even if I wasn't running any other Vispero (spelling) products, I just wouldn't remove them. They don't take up enough room to matter and what if there were something I didn't know about that was using something. That may be very unlikely, but I don't believe in making possibly harmful changes even if there is very little chance of harm or inconvenience for no benefit and saving the very small amount of disk space you might save is a meaningless change in termsof remaining disk space; I haven't checked but I bet that if you saved perhaps five or ten three minute songs in the form of MP3 files to the hard drive, you would use all the space you save by removing shared components. If [someone is that low on disk space, its time to get an external drive.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 9:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi, I don't know what the shared Components are but I just figured it was safer not to touch them. If I was getting rid of all versions of Jaws then I would probably remove the Components. As you say they probably aren't taking up that much room so it is best to leave them alone.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

That won't delete the settings in your current screen-reader and I don't expect it to delete other settings from other installations. Components aren't settings and settings aren't shared.

Shared components might be files used in a s[peech synthesizer by more than one screen-reader or by Openbook and JAWS. Opehnbook and JAWS are both Vispero (spelling) products and if you delete shared components, you may delete files they both use. You shouldn't delete shared components unless you are completely sure no remaining program will use them after the install. Its usually better just to leave them. They don't take up much room and if you are wrong, you will have inconvenience to get them back such as to install a program that places them on the machine again just to get them back.

You said this is the only setting you lost. It may be that even though you migrated your settings, you lost that one when you deleted other screen-reader versions, but if your own experience tells you that that is all you lost, that may just be what might happen and no additional care is indicated. You now know how to change that one setting.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 3:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

I did see delete shared components but I had no idea what it was. I thought it had something to do with settings but wasn't totally sure. I don't think we checked the box to delete them. We will have to be more careful next time.

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 4:42 AM, Sharon S wrote:
Hi, when you uninstall older versions you get the option to delete
shared components. Of course you don't want to do this. I think that
would also delete your current settings.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, 1 January 2021 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Ron:


Whenever I update Jaws, it always asks me to migrate my settings and I
say yes. When I deleted the other versions, it didn't say anything
about my settings. Since I have had Jaws 2021 for a few months and my
settings were fine, I thought all would be good. Ann said that when
you take the old versions off, it automatically deletes some settings.
It's very strange because that's the only setting that wasn't right.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 11:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

i haven't used JAWS for years as my default screen reader, but before
you delete JAWS earlier versions, you should always use the merge
settings feature or whatever the current version of that is now of
days. This will transfer all of your favorite settings from the
older version to the latest version.

I think that utility still exists doesn't it?


On 12/31/2020 4:25 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

I think sometimes people tend to forget that you can't damage
anything in Windows dialogs unless you press an OK button, so
therefore, tabbing through a dialog does not harm anything at all.

Ann P.








Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Sharon S
 

Hi, I don't know what the shared Components are but I just figured it was safer not to touch them. If I was getting rid of all versions of Jaws then I would probably remove the Components. As you say they probably aren't taking up that much room so it is best to leave them alone.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

That won't delete the settings in your current screen-reader and I don't expect it to delete other settings from other installations. Components aren't settings and settings aren't shared.

Shared components might be files used in a s[peech synthesizer by more than one screen-reader or by Openbook and JAWS. Opehnbook and JAWS are both Vispero (spelling) products and if you delete shared components, you may delete files they both use. You shouldn't delete shared components unless you are completely sure no remaining program will use them after the install. Its usually better just to leave them. They don't take up much room and if you are wrong, you will have inconvenience to get them back such as to install a program that places them on the machine again just to get them back.

You said this is the only setting you lost. It may be that even though you migrated your settings, you lost that one when you deleted other screen-reader versions, but if your own experience tells you that that is all you lost, that may just be what might happen and no additional care is indicated. You now know how to change that one setting.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 3:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

I did see delete shared components but I had no idea what it was. I thought it had something to do with settings but wasn't totally sure. I don't think we checked the box to delete them. We will have to be more careful next time.

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 4:42 AM, Sharon S wrote:
Hi, when you uninstall older versions you get the option to delete
shared components. Of course you don't want to do this. I think that
would also delete your current settings.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, 1 January 2021 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Ron:


Whenever I update Jaws, it always asks me to migrate my settings and I
say yes. When I deleted the other versions, it didn't say anything
about my settings. Since I have had Jaws 2021 for a few months and my
settings were fine, I thought all would be good. Ann said that when
you take the old versions off, it automatically deletes some settings.
It's very strange because that's the only setting that wasn't right.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 11:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

i haven't used JAWS for years as my default screen reader, but before
you delete JAWS earlier versions, you should always use the merge
settings feature or whatever the current version of that is now of
days. This will transfer all of your favorite settings from the
older version to the latest version.

I think that utility still exists doesn't it?


On 12/31/2020 4:25 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

I think sometimes people tend to forget that you can't damage
anything in Windows dialogs unless you press an OK button, so
therefore, tabbing through a dialog does not harm anything at all.

Ann P.








Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

Gene
 

Also, it may be that computers that have you select if you are using headphones or speakers when you plug different things in, allow you to have different volume levels for speakers and headphones. So, when you plug your headphones in, the volume is set correctly for listening with headphones and when you plug speakers in, the correct volume is used for speakers. this would mean you could set levels when you plug an item in and not worry about them in future. When you plug in speakers, the level for speakers would be used, and the level for headphones would automatically be used when you plug in headphones.

It is possible the speaker levels somehow became set to 0 or near 0 while the headphone levels remain as desired.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

The message is unclear. What do you mean by the speaker control? Is that
the same as the speaker port? If you are saying that if you plug headphones
into the same jack as speakers and no sound is heard from the speakers but
sound is heard from the headphones, I'm not at all sure why.

Buying an external sound card may solve the problem. But, and this may have
no relevance, it is my impression that some computers sense when you plug
something into jacks and a message appears on screen where you specify
whether you are plugging in headphones or speakers. Those who have
computers that do this, I hope, will discuss the matter further and whether
there is anything in sound card settings that controls this behavior. For
example, in computers that do this, can you mute the speakers but when
headphones are plugged in, they remain unmuted? Having a sighted person
look at sound card settings, one who knows enough to understand what he or
she is looking at, might solve the problem. Also, I doubt an external sound
card would present such problems and you may wish to try that if good
sighted help is hard to find. The only thing I've noticed with my very
brief trial of using external sound cards for screen-reader speech, is that
I may, with certain sound cards get annoying artifacts in speech. I don't
recall what they were now, perhaps clicks or pops at times. I therefore,
use my internal soundcard for speech and if I want to use an external sound
card, I use it for other audio.

Those who use external sound cards for computer speech may want to address
the artifacts question and discuss if this is a general or uncommon problem.
In my experience, the problem isn't bad, but I find it annoying and I want
to avoid it. I should also add, and this may be important, that I always
use headphones so the speech artifacts problem may be more noticeable with
headphones and may make little or very little difference if using a speaker.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble
making computer



The cheapest solution could be to buy an inexpensive usb sound card. I got a
couple for less than 10 u s dollars on amazon.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of DAVID
GLOBE
Sent: January 1, 2021 9:38 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making
computer





I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and
jaws 2020. Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped
working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while.
Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset
plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well. I know the
problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and
plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine. My suspitions
are that the soundcard is wonky. I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next
week, and he can figure things out. It sure has me baffled.

David


Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

Gene
 

The message is unclear. What do you mean by the speaker control? Is that the same as the speaker port? If you are saying that if you plug headphones into the same jack as speakers and no sound is heard from the speakers but sound is heard from the headphones, I'm not at all sure why.

Buying an external sound card may solve the problem. But, and this may have no relevance, it is my impression that some computers sense when you plug something into jacks and a message appears on screen where you specify whether you are plugging in headphones or speakers. Those who have computers that do this, I hope, will discuss the matter further and whether there is anything in sound card settings that controls this behavior. For example, in computers that do this, can you mute the speakers but when headphones are plugged in, they remain unmuted? Having a sighted person look at sound card settings, one who knows enough to understand what he or she is looking at, might solve the problem. Also, I doubt an external sound card would present such problems and you may wish to try that if good sighted help is hard to find. The only thing I've noticed with my very brief trial of using external sound cards for screen-reader speech, is that I may, with certain sound cards get annoying artifacts in speech. I don't recall what they were now, perhaps clicks or pops at times. I therefore, use my internal soundcard for speech and if I want to use an external sound card, I use it for other audio.

Those who use external sound cards for computer speech may want to address the artifacts question and discuss if this is a general or uncommon problem. In my experience, the problem isn't bad, but I find it annoying and I want to avoid it. I should also add, and this may be important, that I always use headphones so the speech artifacts problem may be more noticeable with headphones and may make little or very little difference if using a speaker.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer



The cheapest solution could be to buy an inexpensive usb sound card. I got a couple for less than 10 u s dollars on amazon.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of DAVID GLOBE
Sent: January 1, 2021 9:38 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer





I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and jaws 2020. Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while. Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well. I know the problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine. My suspitions are that the soundcard is wonky. I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next week, and he can figure things out. It sure has me baffled.

David


Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

enes sarıbaş
 

Lol I love my computers. I never ever drink or eat near a computer.

On 12/28/2020 12:51 PM, chris judge wrote:
yes Gene, that's true, however I'm sure many of us have done it, I'm guessing even you at some point in their lives. I was simply stating a drawback of the laptop as one unit, no need to dole out the God complex. I'm sure we all feel stupid when it happens without getting that extra little boost.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 28, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I consider the consideration about spilling things to be inapplicable. I'm not saying this to give any one person a hard time, but there are just certain things you don't do and one of them is eat or drink around a computer. In my opinion, that's just negligent behavior.

As far as laptop versus desktop is concerned, I don't know how much the ssmall desktops weigh so I can't comment on that. I will say that I used to use desktops and purchase them. But I want the option to use a computer portably and conveniently in different rooms. It may still be that laptops don't last as long in general as desktops, but I'll pay to replace a laptop more often because I consider it perhaps even more expensive to have a laptop that I would seldom use outside of my home and a separate desktop that I would use most of the time at home.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I have a couple of lap tops but I only have them because I require portability sometimes. If I was planning to use my computer at home all the time, in one place, I would never choose a lap top over a desk top computer.
Consider the following.

One can now buy desktop computers that are both tiny and powerful. You can get computers that are All-in-one, which means all the goodies, except for the keyboard are built in to the unit, similar to the way apple does it with the iMac..
If you are using your laptop with it's built-in keyboard and you spill something such as a coffee or any other liquid in to it, you risk ruining the entire device. If you do this to an external keyboard, you just say "oh rats" toss the keyboard out and plug another one in.
I spilled an entire cup of hot chocolate in to my X Wifes laptop many years ago, and although it wasn't the cause of our eventual divorce, it sure earned me a trip to the dog house. 😀

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I would not get a laptop, if I had to use another keyboard, don't have one for my iPhone, wouldn't have one for it. That just makes for too clumsy maneuvering in my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Hi,
May I ask you why you say you don't like Laptop keyboards? I've never used a Laptop before, and I don't know very much about them, so if you would please shed some light on the factors of Laptop keyboards, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I hate laptop keyboards so I always buy an external one
On Dec 26, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Marie,
Don't let it intimidate me, laughing, so you made my day! I was
pretty close to letting it intimidate me! Laughing! I can't stand
the keyboard though, so I haven't even turned it on. As far as the
MS, I think that was a 6 month trial though, but I don't want MS, but
I'm just not for sure if I will need MS or not, but I'll see. I will
see what I can find at Best Buy Monday when I take back the Laptop I just bought.
Thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet,
Power the laptop up and wait a minute for the booth process to begin.
Then press the ctrl Plus Windows key plus enter and soon Narrator will
begin talking.
I am quite sure that Windows 10 is on the machine and if you take your
time and listen to the prompts, you can get it set up. Many of us have
done it before you.
I also believe that the Office suite is a thirty day trial unless you
paid extra to have the package.
The important thing is not to let it intimidate you. LOL!


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

HI Marten,
Thank you for this, but I don't even know if Windows 10 is already
installed, although, I don't think so. The person who helped me
online with this, said Windows is already installed. I don't know the
Lenovo key on the keyboard in which I think I might need. I don't
know the product key number either. LOL! I don't know if Narrator
will walk me through all the steps or not though. I don't know if
this was a good idea buying this Laptop either. Thank you anyway. I
greatly appreciate it.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet" ,

You can cturn on Narrator with ctrl-win-enter, but I am not sure with
wat screen the Lenovo will start.

You can try to start the laptop and after a while press this shortkey.

It can also be, that the laptop will ask to install windows and in
this case I am not sure if Narrator is working.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:59:39 +0000 "Janet"
<janet.harvard@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Well, I thought I wasn't going to receive my new Lenovo IdeaPad until
Jan 06-2021, but I just received it, and I don't know what to do with
it now!
LOL! I do know it might take me sometime to learn the keys, as some
of them are long and some of them are wide, and the keys are a little
larger than what I am used to. The keys are also close to each
other. Any suggestions how to get started with this, meaning I need
some speech, or there isn't any point in me even turning it on! LOL!
Someone mentioned to turn on Narrator, but I don't remember how to
turn it on.

Janet

Peace Be With You.




















































Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

Monte Single
 

The cheapest solution could be to buy an inexpensive usb sound card. I got a couple for less than 10 u s dollars on amazon.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of DAVID GLOBE
Sent: January 1, 2021 9:38 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

 

I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and jaws 2020.  Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while.  Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well.  I know the problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine.  My suspitions are that the soundcard is wonky.  I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next week, and he can figure things out.  It sure has me baffled.

David


Re: How to Read .mobi Books

john s
 

Joe, QRead will read many of them. Also, Balabolka, a free program is worth trying.

At 05:08 AM 1/2/2021, Joe Orozco, wrote:
Hi, does anyone know what accessible PC apps will read .mobi books?
I’m looking at the Kindle for PC software. Is this our only option, or
are there alternatives? Thanks in advance for any help.

Joe


John


Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

DAVID GLOBE
 

This unit won't run my speakers at all.  It did for a while, but no go now.

David

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: January 2, 2021 7:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

 

I am not a techky, but I had a similar problem. When I switched from the speaker to a headphone I had to reboot the computer an same when switching from headphones back to speakers.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:38 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

 

I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and jaws 2020.  Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while.  Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well.  I know the problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine.  My suspitions are that the soundcard is wonky.  I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next week, and he can figure things out.  It sure has me baffled.

David


Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I am not a techky, but I had a similar problem. When I switched from the speaker to a headphone I had to reboot the computer an same when switching from headphones back to speakers.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:38 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and jaws 2020.  Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while.  Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well.  I know the problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine.  My suspitions are that the soundcard is wonky.  I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next week, and he can figure things out.  It sure has me baffled.

David


Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Gene
 

They clearly don't automatically delete for the program you migrated them to if you don't delete that version. You lost one setting. That may indicate that this one setting is lost. I'm not even sure if its accurate that you lose settings for versions you delete. That would need more discussion for verification. Usually, when you delete a program, the settings are kept so you can reinstall the program if you wish and still have your settings in the new installation. I'm not saying that no programs delete ssettings, but it is not common.

You lost one setting and you can very easily change it. That may be what happens in general and it may indeicate a bug or quirk but no extra care is indicated by this one experiendce.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 4:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi Brian:


Thank you for letting me know that the settings automatically delete
when you take off old versions of Jaws. I will definitely remember that
next time. This is the first time it has happened. I honestly thought
things would be fine since I migrated the settings months ago when I put
Jaws 2021 on. Happy New Year!

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 10:49 AM, Brian Zolo wrote:
Hey there, shelly, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, happy New Year! Whenever you delete older versions of jaws, your settings are deleted so whenever you install a new version of jaws, it's important that you go into the basic options and make sure that you checkbox that says start jaws at the logon screen. The next setting is start jaws for all users and I leave that setting unchecked and then your next setting is start jaws for this user always that's a combo box and I leave mine for this user and the go to okay and hit your space bar and then just tab on over to lkay again and hit your space bar and you're finished. I sure wish that vispero would add something to the installation that asks you whether you want to keep your settings so that you don't have to keep doing this as it sure would make things much simpler for folks, grin! BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I did what you said and it was unchecked. I have no idea how that setting got unchecked when I deleted the older versions of Jaws. If I have any other problems, I will be sure to post. So glad that there are Jaws users here. Thanks again and Happy New Year everyone!

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 1:18 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Okay.
1. Go to the Jaws context menu either by clicking on the Jaws shortcut
that's on your desktop (if you have one on your desktop) or by pressing insert j 2. Once you get to the context menu Options will be the first thing that comes up.
3. Enter on options and tab 3 times to Autimatically start Jaws...
button Once you enter on that button a dialog box will come up and the first option is "Start Jaws at the log-on screen" and Jaws will tell you whether it's checked or unchecked. If it's unchecked then check it and tab to the okay button. You'll be asked to restart Jaws, once you do this then everything should be back to normal.
Hope these instructions are clear and simple enough... If not then sorry, hopefully someone else can give you simpler ones.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I don't think we changed anything. Maybe we hit something accidentally when we deleted them. When I downloaded 2021, I checked the box to have Jaws start up when I turn on the computer. If you can tell me where to check that, I would appreciate it. Maybe it got unchecked somehow.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 12:26 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Did you happen to change any settings when uninstalling the other 2 versions of Jaws? If so, then let me know and I'll try and help you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 3:21 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi Group:


I deleted Jaws 2019 and 2020 because I now have Jaws 2021 and I
didn't need the other ones. Since I have taken the other versions
off my computer, now when I turn on the computer to sign in using my
pin, Jaws
2021 no longer says anything like it used to. It would always tell me to sign in and now it's not. Do you know how I can get this to talk again when I first turn on the computer? When I downloaded it a few months ago, I checked everything so it would turn on right away and it did. I'm not sure if we hit something taking off the other programs and now it's not turning on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Simple Instructions would be most helpful. I'm not tech savvy. When I type in my pin, Jaws does come up but I need it right when I turn on the computer like it was.

Shelly























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Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Gene
 

That won't delete the settings in your current screen-reader and I don't expect it to delete other settings from other installations. Components aren't settings and settings aren't shared.

Shared components might be files used in a s[peech synthesizer by more than one screen-reader or by Openbook and JAWS. Opehnbook and JAWS are both Vispero (spelling) products and if you delete shared components, you may delete files they both use. You shouldn't delete shared components unless you are completely sure no remaining program will use them after the install. Its usually better just to leave them. They don't take up much room and if you are wrong, you will have inconvenience to get them back such as to install a program that places them on the machine again just to get them back.

You said this is the only setting you lost. It may be that even though you migrated your settings, you lost that one when you deleted other screen-reader versions, but if your own experience tells you that that is all you lost, that may just be what might happen and no additional care is indicated. You now know how to change that one setting.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 3:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

I did see delete shared components but I had no idea what it was. I
thought it had something to do with settings but wasn't totally sure. I
don't think we checked the box to delete them. We will have to be more
careful next time.

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 4:42 AM, Sharon S wrote:
Hi, when you uninstall older versions you get the option to delete shared components. Of course you don't want to do this. I think that would also delete your current settings.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, 1 January 2021 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Ron:


Whenever I update Jaws, it always asks me to migrate my settings and I say yes. When I deleted the other versions, it didn't say anything about my settings. Since I have had Jaws 2021 for a few months and my settings were fine, I thought all would be good. Ann said that when you take the old versions off, it automatically deletes some settings. It's very strange because that's the only setting that wasn't right.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 11:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

i haven't used JAWS for years as my default screen reader, but before
you delete JAWS earlier versions, you should always use the merge
settings feature or whatever the current version of that is now of
days. This will transfer all of your favorite settings from the older
version to the latest version.

I think that utility still exists doesn't it?


On 12/31/2020 4:25 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

I think sometimes people tend to forget that you can't damage
anything in Windows dialogs unless you press an OK button, so
therefore, tabbing through a dialog does not harm anything at all.

Ann P.








How to Read .mobi Books

Joe Orozco
 

Hi, does anyone know what accessible PC apps will read .mobi books?
I’m looking at the Kindle for PC software. Is this our only option, or
are there alternatives? Thanks in advance for any help.

Joe


Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Brian:


Thank you for letting me know that the settings automatically delete when you take off old versions of Jaws.  I will definitely remember that next time.  This is the first time it has happened. I honestly thought things would be fine since I migrated the settings months ago when I put Jaws 2021 on.  Happy New Year!

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 10:49 AM, Brian Zolo wrote:
Hey there, shelly, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, happy New Year! Whenever you delete older versions of jaws, your settings are deleted so whenever you install a new version of jaws, it's important that you go into the basic options and make sure that you checkbox that says start jaws at the logon screen. The next setting is start jaws for all users and I leave that setting unchecked and then your next setting is start jaws for this user always that's a combo box and I leave mine for this user and the go to okay and hit your space bar and then just tab on over to lkay again and hit your space bar and you're finished. I sure wish that vispero would add something to the installation that asks you whether you want to keep your settings so that you don't have to keep doing this as it sure would make things much simpler for folks, grin! BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I did what you said and it was unchecked. I have no idea how that setting got unchecked when I deleted the older versions of Jaws. If I have any other problems, I will be sure to post. So glad that there are Jaws users here. Thanks again and Happy New Year everyone!

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 1:18 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Okay.
1. Go to the Jaws context menu either by clicking on the Jaws shortcut
that's on your desktop (if you have one on your desktop) or by pressing insert j 2. Once you get to the context menu Options will be the first thing that comes up.
3. Enter on options and tab 3 times to Autimatically start Jaws...
button Once you enter on that button a dialog box will come up and the first option is "Start Jaws at the log-on screen" and Jaws will tell you whether it's checked or unchecked. If it's unchecked then check it and tab to the okay button. You'll be asked to restart Jaws, once you do this then everything should be back to normal.
Hope these instructions are clear and simple enough... If not then sorry, hopefully someone else can give you simpler ones.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I don't think we changed anything. Maybe we hit something accidentally when we deleted them. When I downloaded 2021, I checked the box to have Jaws start up when I turn on the computer. If you can tell me where to check that, I would appreciate it. Maybe it got unchecked somehow.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 12:26 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Did you happen to change any settings when uninstalling the other 2 versions of Jaws? If so, then let me know and I'll try and help you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 3:21 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi Group:


I deleted Jaws 2019 and 2020 because I now have Jaws 2021 and I
didn't need the other ones. Since I have taken the other versions
off my computer, now when I turn on the computer to sign in using my
pin, Jaws
2021 no longer says anything like it used to. It would always tell me to sign in and now it's not. Do you know how I can get this to talk again when I first turn on the computer? When I downloaded it a few months ago, I checked everything so it would turn on right away and it did. I'm not sure if we hit something taking off the other programs and now it's not turning on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Simple Instructions would be most helpful. I'm not tech savvy. When I type in my pin, Jaws does come up but I need it right when I turn on the computer like it was.

Shelly























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Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Shelly Kane
 

Ron:


I don't think I run any of my programs from the system tray.  I can hit the shortcut keys I have for them.  Thank you for explaining that to me.

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 6:06 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
If something is running from the system tray, its icon appears only there.  It does not appear in the normal tab order. That means that if you press the alt + Tab key stroke repeatedly to move form open program to open program, JAWS will not appear. To access JAWS when running from the system tray, press insert + J and you will launch the context menu from which the use of the up/down arrow keys and/or first letter navigation will bring up various items within the menu structure into view for access and/or activation.


On 1/1/2021 4:53 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Chris:


Thank you so much.  I don't think Jaws is running from the system tray whatever that means.  It asked me if I wanted it to.  What would happen if I let it do whatever in the system tray?  I hit the insert J key and Jaws opened but I had to actually hit control O for options because it wasn't running from the system tray which I didn't know.  Once I got to where it said basic setting, I went over to automatically start Jaws and then I clicked on that.  It asked me if I wanted it to start when I first logged on and I said yes.  So the problem was when I deleted my other versions of Jaws, somehow that setting got unchecked.  I think it should be fine now.  If not, I will let you know.  Thanks again.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 1:13 PM, Chris judge wrote:
Hi Shelly.
The option you want is under basic settings. Press insert J to move to the jaws window. If your jaws is set to run from the system tray, pressing insert J will open the menu and land you on the options sub menu, Press right arrow to expand the options menu. You will hear, basics. Press enter. Tab over to automatically start jaws. Press enter. You will find check boxes for start jaws at the log on screen, as well as whether you want jaws to run for all users, or just you. Check the boxes you want, then tab to the ok button. Tab again to ok and press enter. This should do it.



Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I don't think we changed anything.  Maybe we hit something accidentally when we deleted them.  When I downloaded 2021, I checked the box to have Jaws start up when I turn on the computer.  If you can tell me where to check that, I would appreciate it.  Maybe it got unchecked somehow.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 12:26 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Did you happen to change any settings when uninstalling the other 2 versions of Jaws? If so, then let me know and I'll try and help you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 3:21 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

           Hi Group:


I deleted Jaws 2019 and 2020 because I now have Jaws 2021 and I didn't
need the other ones.  Since I have taken the other versions off my
computer, now when I turn on the computer to sign in using my pin,
Jaws
2021 no longer says anything like it used to.  It would always tell me to sign in and now it's not.  Do you know how I can get this to talk again when I first turn on the computer? When I downloaded it a few months ago, I checked everything so it would turn on right away and it did.  I'm not sure if we hit something taking off the other programs and now it's not turning on.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Simple Instructions would be most helpful. I'm not tech savvy.  When I type in my pin, Jaws does come up but I need it right when I turn on the computer like it was.

Shelly






















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