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trouble with Google Chrome, Open Drive & Dropbox

Vicki W
 

Good Morning,
 
For the last several weeks whenever I open up Open Drive or Google or even DropBox to download something someone has uploaded, at least 6 save as windows will open. I can just pick one and the download will work, but the windows keep opening and when the download is complete, I need to close each of those windows individually. Until I do, a temp file shows up in my download folder for each one as though it is trying to download what I just finished successfully downloading.
 
Anyone else had this problem and any suggestions to a solution?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

You might want to set up a printer or other periferal. You will want to set up your wi-fi. You will want to set up your mail program. You will want to make sure all your folders are set to list view and that you enable file extensions and allow hidden files.

Ann P.

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Firefox Downloads

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

What OS are you running. Check the downloads folder.

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
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Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: EPUB Reader

john s
 

QRead and Balabolka are good.  Balabolka is free.


At 12:15 PM 1/2/2021, Akshaya Choudhary, wrote:
 Hello everyone,

Can someone suggest a good EPUB reader?  I personally enjoyed using Microsoft  Edge, but it doesn't read EPUB files anymore. Currently, I'm using Acrobat DC, but it is not as smooth as MS Edge. It hangs while handling large files.

All suggestions are welcome

Regards

                 John


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gerald Levy
 


Janet, be sure the Best Buy store you visit has a functioning Geek Squaed desk so that they can help you set up your new laptop.  Because of pandemic restrictions, some Best Buy stores may not have Geek Squad ttechnicians on hand, so call the store you plan to visit first and explain that you ar blind and will need help setting up the new laptop you purchase from them.  In my experience,sales staff at Best Buy will only answer general questions about the computers they sell, and   will refer you to the Geek Squad desk for technical assistance.  All computers they sell come with Windows 10 already installed, which includes Narrator andWindows Security as part of the operating system .  Depending on the amount of help a Geek Squad technician provides, you may be charged extra for this service.  Just as a reminder, the keystroke to toggle Narrator on and off is Control-Windows key-Enter.  In Windows 10, MS Edge is set as the default browser, so you will need to download the Brave browser yourself and set it as the default. Good luck.  


Gerald


 

On 1/2/2021 8:47 PM, Janet wrote:
Gene, 
Thank you as this is great to hear.  One problem solved! Smile!  One of the very first things I would like to do is to put Brave on my Laptop.
I just think I will ask Best Buy if they will turn on Narrator, or I will turn it on to see if it will come on and stay on ! Isn't Narrator part of Windows? I'm wondering if Narrator is part of Windows, and if Narrator is not working correctly, is Windows fully installed.  Just trying to figure this out.
There has to be some way I can set up the Laptop though.  I don't know if it would do any good to call MS tech support though, and I have to admit if I have to do that, I dread that!  LOL! 
Janet 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Brave automatically blocks advertising so there is nothing to do.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
I will definitely be using Brave, as I absolutely love Brave as my browser, 
and I wouldn't even want to go online if I didn't have Brave!  Do I need to 
turn  on an ad blocker in Brave though, as I don't think I turned any on 
when I first installed Brave.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I would suggest, however, that you use either the Brave Browser for most of
your browsing or, if you want to use something else, use an ad blocker.  U
Block Origin, spelling, has a very good reputation and my recollection is
that I didn't have to do any setup.  I just installed it as an add-on or
plugin, or whatever the exact description is.  Its not a question of whether
you want to block ads, though you may, but advertising on web sites may be
dangerous.  Ads may be hacked and try to install malware.  So in addition to
antimalware software, I consider either a browser that blocks advertising by
design, Brave does, or one on which you install a good add blocker to be
important for Internet security.  Asto exactly how you install one on the
browser you will be using, the list can discuss that once you decide which
browser you will use as your main browser.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows.  As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer.  Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable.  I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it.  When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it.  I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though.  Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop.  I know how to plug it in
though!  LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


























Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Janet,

Once you're up and running on your new laptop, I recommend you enable the system restore feature in Windows 10. Keeping restore points can be a real help if you run into a problem. Please see the following page for details:

https://techloris.com/enable-system-restore-in-windows-10/

HTH,
Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:25 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi Janet, a few things as I have just set up a new laptop.
First, you will need sided assistance to get through the first few steps because narrator does not turn on until you are connected to the Internet. See if Best Buy will get you through to at least the desktop without an Internet connection.
Second, after you have gotten to the desktop and loaded your screen reader you will probably need to perform an update to the Windows operating system. Although the latest windows update has been out for a few months, I still needed to update to the 2008, H2 version.
I hope this information helps.
On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from
which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I
don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide
information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if
the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back
off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I
don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never
worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I
pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time.
If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it.
We don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator
may not have been the problem. Whenever I see this question
discussed, those who describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to
enter it, matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can
probably connect the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I
connected my iPhone using my network password and security number. My
Modem and Router is so old, and out dated as I've had it since 2009,
and I probably need a new one soon. Do you know if I can install Jaws
as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use Narrator? Last week when
I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to
enter information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop
will see your router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though,
speaking about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and
Router, but I do know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do
have WI-FI connections with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to
do is use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall,
its system Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but
System Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to
need something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been
discussed here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you
are discussing, the only thing I can think of is to set up your
computer to work with your WIFI, unless at home, you are going to
connect your computer to your router by cable. I don't know enough
about how you set up your computer to work with your WIFI to discuss
it. When I had my modem set up here, the serviceman set up my laptop
to work with it. I think AT&T does that for customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop,
what might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set
up an email program, install my screen reader, set up security though.
Just so I know what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how
to plug it in though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.











































Re: audio description and hulu

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Kimsan,

 

The info you’re seeking can be found at

http://acb.org/adp/articles/huluadinfo.html

 

HTH

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] audio description and hulu

 

We access hulu via the x-box 1, how can I activate audio description for hulu?

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: Jaws Help, Please!

Shelly Kane
 

The problem has been solved and I learned something out of it.  I now know that when I delete an older version of Jaws that I have to reset a few things and I can do that.  I'm very glad for this list because I learn things along the way and everyone is so knowledgeable.  I would never delete shared components.  I also don't think they have to do with settings but when that came up, something told me to not delete it and now I know never to do it. Thanks again for everything.

Shelly

On 1/2/2021 3:38 AM, Gene wrote:
They clearly don't automatically delete for the program you migrated them to if you don't delete that version.  You lost one setting. That may indicate that this one setting is lost.  I'm not even sure if its accurate that you lose settings for versions you delete.  That would need more discussion for verification. Usually, when you delete a program, the settings are kept so you can reinstall the program if you wish and still have your settings in the new installation.  I'm not saying that no programs delete ssettings, but it is not common.

You lost one setting and you can very easily change it.  That may be what happens in general and it may indeicate a bug or quirk but no extra care is indicated by this one experiendce.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 4:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi Brian:


Thank you for letting me know that the settings automatically delete
when you take off old versions of Jaws.  I will definitely remember that
next time.  This is the first time it has happened. I honestly thought
things would be fine since I migrated the settings months ago when I put
Jaws 2021 on.  Happy New Year!

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 10:49 AM, Brian Zolo wrote:
Hey there, shelly, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, happy New Year! Whenever you delete older versions of jaws, your settings are deleted so whenever you install a new version of jaws, it's important that you go into the basic options and make sure that you checkbox that says start jaws at the logon screen.  The next setting is start jaws for all users and I leave that setting unchecked and then your next setting is start jaws for this user always that's a combo box and I leave mine for this user and the go to okay and hit your space bar and then just tab on over to lkay again and hit your space bar and you're finished.  I sure wish that vispero would add something to the installation that asks you whether you want to keep your settings so that you don't have to keep doing this as it sure would make things much simpler for folks, grin!  BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I did what you said and it was unchecked.  I have no idea how that setting got unchecked when I deleted the older versions of Jaws.  If I have any other problems, I will be sure to post.  So glad that there are Jaws users here.  Thanks again and Happy New Year everyone!

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 1:18 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Okay.
1. Go to the Jaws context menu either by clicking on the Jaws shortcut
that's on your desktop (if you have one on your desktop) or by pressing insert j 2. Once you get to  the context menu Options will be the first thing that comes up.
3. Enter on options and tab 3 times to Autimatically start Jaws...
button Once you enter on that button a dialog box will come up and the first option is "Start Jaws at the log-on screen" and Jaws will tell you whether it's checked or unchecked. If it's unchecked then check it and tab to the okay button. You'll be asked to restart Jaws, once you do this then everything should be back to normal.
Hope these instructions are clear and simple enough... If not then sorry, hopefully someone else can give you simpler ones.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I don't think we changed anything.  Maybe we hit something accidentally when we deleted them.  When I downloaded 2021, I checked the box to have Jaws start up when I turn on the computer.  If you can tell me where to check that, I would appreciate it.  Maybe it got unchecked somehow.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 12:26 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi Shelley,
Did you happen to change any settings when uninstalling the other 2 versions of Jaws? If so, then let me know and I'll try and help you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 3:21 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

            Hi Group:


I deleted Jaws 2019 and 2020 because I now have Jaws 2021 and I
didn't need the other ones.  Since I have taken the other versions
off my computer, now when I turn on the computer to sign in using my
pin, Jaws
2021 no longer says anything like it used to.  It would always tell me to sign in and now it's not.  Do you know how I can get this to talk again when I first turn on the computer? When I downloaded it a few months ago, I checked everything so it would turn on right away and it did.  I'm not sure if we hit something taking off the other programs and now it's not turning on.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Simple Instructions would be most helpful. I'm not tech savvy.  When I type in my pin, Jaws does come up but I need it right when I turn on the computer like it was.

Shelly























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Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Hmm, Colonel Monte, it is possible to purchase a BARE-BONE COMPUTER, whether
that be a laptop or desktop, and then proceed to install an OS of one's
choice. Of course, you're not likely going to find any such computer on the
shelves of the likes of Bestbuy, Microcenter and others, but bare-bone
computers with NO PREINSTALLED OS on them are out there for folks like me
who take joy in tinkering with the impossible.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Hi Joyce,
Wow, this really answers a few different questions, and certainly puts me in the driver's seat! Now, if Best Buy can get me to the Desktop without Wi-FI connection, what will this do for me?
Thank you thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:25 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi Janet, a few things as I have just set up a new laptop.
First, you will need sided assistance to get through the first few steps because narrator does not turn on until you are connected to the Internet. See if Best Buy will get you through to at least the desktop without an Internet connection.
Second, after you have gotten to the desktop and loaded your screen reader you will probably need to perform an update to the Windows operating system. Although the latest windows update has been out for a few months, I still needed to update to the 2008, H2 version.
I hope this information helps.
On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.











































Re: I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

George McCoy
 

Very good point.

On 1/2/2021 9:06 AM, Gene wrote:
Also, it may be that computers that have you select if you are using headphones or speakers when you plug different things in, allow you to have different volume levels for speakers and headphones. So, when you plug your headphones in, the volume is set correctly for listening with headphones and when you plug speakers in, the correct volume is used for speakers.  this would mean you could set levels when you plug an item in and not worry about them in future.  When you plug in speakers, the level for speakers would be used, and the level for headphones would automatically be used when you plug in headphones.

It is possible the speaker levels somehow became set to 0 or near 0 while the headphone levels remain as desired.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making computer

The message is unclear.  What do you mean by the speaker control? Is that
the same as the speaker port?  If you are saying that if you plug headphones
into the same jack as speakers and no sound is heard from the speakers but
sound is heard from the headphones, I'm not at all sure why.

Buying an external sound card may solve the problem.  But, and this may have
no relevance, it is my impression that some computers sense when you plug
something into jacks and a message appears on screen where you specify
whether you are plugging in headphones or speakers.  Those who have
computers that do this, I hope, will discuss the matter further and whether
there is anything in sound card settings that controls this behavior.  For
example, in computers that do this, can you mute the speakers but when
headphones are plugged in, they remain unmuted?    Having a sighted person
look at sound card settings, one who knows enough to understand what he or
she is looking at, might solve the problem.  Also, I doubt an external sound
card would present such problems and you may wish to try that if good
sighted help is hard to find.  The only thing I've noticed with my very
brief trial of using external sound cards for screen-reader speech, is that
I may, with certain sound cards get annoying artifacts in speech. I don't
recall what they were now, perhaps clicks or pops at times.  I therefore,
use my internal soundcard for speech and if I  want to use an external sound
card, I use it for other audio.

Those who use external sound cards for computer speech may want to address
the artifacts question and discuss if this is a general or uncommon problem.
In my experience, the problem isn't bad, but I find it annoying and I want
to avoid it.  I should also add, and this may be important, that I always
use headphones so the speech artifacts problem may be more noticeable with
headphones and may make little or very little difference if using a speaker.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble
making computer



The cheapest solution could be to buy an inexpensive usb sound card. I got a
couple for less than 10 u s dollars on amazon.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of DAVID
GLOBE
Sent: January 1, 2021 9:38 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I'm not sure if I have a lemon or just a trouble making
computer





I got this computer in 2020, Its a brand new computer running win ten and
jaws 2020.  Shortly after I got it, the speaker port on the back stopped
working, so I plugged my speakers in the front and that was ok for a while.
Now neither port works, and as strange as it may sound, I have a headset
plugged in to the speaker control, and they work very well.  I know the
problem isn't with the speakers, as I can unplug them from the computer and
plug them in to anything else and they will work just fine.  My suspitions
are that the soundcard is wonky.  I'll be talking to my tech hopefully next
week, and he can figure things out.  It sure has me baffled.

David











Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
Ok, I just seen my answer in this message, so please just ignor my question about Narrator being a part of Windows.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Yes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Am I right in assuming Narrator comes with Windows Ten?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Joyce Feinberg
 

Hi Janet, a few things as I have just set up a new laptop.
First, you will need sided assistance to get through the first few steps because narrator does not turn on until you are connected to the Internet. See if Best Buy will get you through to at least the desktop without an Internet connection.
Second, after you have gotten to the desktop and loaded your screen reader you will probably need to perform an update to the Windows operating system. Although the latest windows update has been out for a few months, I still needed to update to the 2008, H2 version.
I hope this information helps.

On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.











































Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
Thank you as this is great to hear. One problem solved! Smile! One of the very first things I would like to do is to put Brave on my Laptop.
I just think I will ask Best Buy if they will turn on Narrator, or I will turn it on to see if it will come on and stay on ! Isn't Narrator part of Windows? I'm wondering if Narrator is part of Windows, and if Narrator is not working correctly, is Windows fully installed. Just trying to figure this out.
There has to be some way I can set up the Laptop though. I don't know if it would do any good to call MS tech support though, and I have to admit if I have to do that, I dread that! LOL!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Brave automatically blocks advertising so there is nothing to do.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
I will definitely be using Brave, as I absolutely love Brave as my browser,
and I wouldn't even want to go online if I didn't have Brave! Do I need to
turn on an ad blocker in Brave though, as I don't think I turned any on
when I first installed Brave.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I would suggest, however, that you use either the Brave Browser for most of
your browsing or, if you want to use something else, use an ad blocker. U
Block Origin, spelling, has a very good reputation and my recollection is
that I didn't have to do any setup. I just installed it as an add-on or
plugin, or whatever the exact description is. Its not a question of whether
you want to block ads, though you may, but advertising on web sites may be
dangerous. Ads may be hacked and try to install malware. So in addition to
antimalware software, I consider either a browser that blocks advertising by
design, Brave does, or one on which you install a good add blocker to be
important for Internet security. Asto exactly how you install one on the
browser you will be using, the list can discuss that once you decide which
browser you will use as your main browser.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene
 

Brave automatically blocks advertising so there is nothing to do.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
I will definitely be using Brave, as I absolutely love Brave as my browser, and I wouldn't even want to go online if I didn't have Brave! Do I need to turn on an ad blocker in Brave though, as I don't think I turned any on when I first installed Brave.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I would suggest, however, that you use either the Brave Browser for most of
your browsing or, if you want to use something else, use an ad blocker. U
Block Origin, spelling, has a very good reputation and my recollection is
that I didn't have to do any setup. I just installed it as an add-on or
plugin, or whatever the exact description is. Its not a question of whether
you want to block ads, though you may, but advertising on web sites may be
dangerous. Ads may be hacked and try to install malware. So in addition to
antimalware software, I consider either a browser that blocks advertising by
design, Brave does, or one on which you install a good add blocker to be
important for Internet security. Asto exactly how you install one on the
browser you will be using, the list can discuss that once you decide which
browser you will use as your main browser.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene
 

Yes.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Am I right in assuming Narrator comes with Windows Ten?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
I will definitely be using Brave, as I absolutely love Brave as my browser, and I wouldn't even want to go online if I didn't have Brave! Do I need to turn on an ad blocker in Brave though, as I don't think I turned any on when I first installed Brave.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I would suggest, however, that you use either the Brave Browser for most of
your browsing or, if you want to use something else, use an ad blocker. U
Block Origin, spelling, has a very good reputation and my recollection is
that I didn't have to do any setup. I just installed it as an add-on or
plugin, or whatever the exact description is. Its not a question of whether
you want to block ads, though you may, but advertising on web sites may be
dangerous. Ads may be hacked and try to install malware. So in addition to
antimalware software, I consider either a browser that blocks advertising by
design, Brave does, or one on which you install a good add blocker to be
important for Internet security. Asto exactly how you install one on the
browser you will be using, the list can discuss that once you decide which
browser you will use as your main browser.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
Am I right in assuming Narrator comes with Windows Ten?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which
you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know
just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't
want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do
it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and
so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any
idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator
before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this
coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this
time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene
 

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time. If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it. We
don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator may not
have been the problem. Whenever I see this question discussed, those who
describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to enter it,
matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can probably connect
the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I connected my iPhone using my
network password and security number. My Modem and Router is so old, and
out dated as I've had it since 2009, and I probably need a new one soon. Do
you know if I can install Jaws as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use
Narrator? Last week when I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator
wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to enter
information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop will see your
router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though, speaking
about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and Router, but I do
know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do have WI-FI connections
with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable. I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it. When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it. I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though. Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how to plug it in
though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.

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