On Jan 3, 2021, at 12:21 PM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.

When I got my dell XPS in March of 2019 I was able to completely set it up without sighted assistance. This pc has both wired and wifi connectivity. I can't recall now if I had hard wired it to the internet before I began, or if I used wifi, but I had no issues starting narrator at the beginning. I hadn't heard that narrator won't run unless the computer is connected to the internet and I don't think that is the case.

I'm surprised someone hasn't done a demonstration on some podcast going through the steps of setting up a pc from scratch. I am considering picking up a new laptop for the specific purpose of recording it's set-up, but I won't have time to do it for a couple of weeks as it's back to work tomorrow and things are going to be busy for a while.Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
Sent: January 2, 2021 9:25 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi Janet, a few things as I have just set up a new laptop.
First, you will need sided assistance to get through the first few steps because narrator does not turn on until you are connected to the Internet. See if Best Buy will get you through to at least the desktop without an Internet connection.
Second, after you have gotten to the desktop and loaded your screen reader you will probably need to perform an update to the Windows operating system. Although the latest windows update has been out for a few months, I still needed to update to the 2008, H2 version.
I hope this information helps.

On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from
which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I
don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide
information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if
the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back
off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I
don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never
worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I
pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time.
If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it.
We don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator
may not have been the problem. Whenever I see this question
discussed, those who describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to
enter it, matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can
probably connect the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I
connected my iPhone using my network password and security number. My
Modem and Router is so old, and out dated as I've had it since 2009,
and I probably need a new one soon. Do you know if I can install Jaws
as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use Narrator? Last week when
I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to
enter information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop
will see your router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though,
speaking about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and
Router, but I do know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do
have WI-FI connections with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to
do is use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall,
its system Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but
System Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to
need something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been
discussed here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you
are discussing, the only thing I can think of is to set up your
computer to work with your WIFI, unless at home, you are going to
connect your computer to your router by cable. I don't know enough
about how you set up your computer to work with your WIFI to discuss
it. When I had my modem set up here, the serviceman set up my laptop
to work with it. I think AT&T does that for customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop,
what might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set
up an email program, install my screen reader, set up security though.
Just so I know what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how
to plug it in though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.

Hello all,

First of all, I hope you all had a happy Christmas and new year.

As the subject says, I got a notification saying that my windows license will expire soon, and had two options, go to PC settings or close buttons. When I went to PC settings I there was an activate button and a place to write a key.

I got my laptop some years ago with Windows 8, which I was able to upgrade freely to Windows 8.1.

My issue is, does this kind of license expire? Is there something I could do to avoid it?

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Teresa Arroyo

On Jan 3, 2021, at 12:21 PM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.

When I got my dell XPS in March of 2019 I was able to completely set it up without sighted assistance. This pc has both wired and wifi connectivity. I can't recall now if I had hard wired it to the internet before I began, or if I used wifi, but I had no issues starting narrator at the beginning. I hadn't heard that narrator won't run unless the computer is connected to the internet and I don't think that is the case.

I'm surprised someone hasn't done a demonstration on some podcast going through the steps of setting up a pc from scratch. I am considering picking up a new laptop for the specific purpose of recording it's set-up, but I won't have time to do it for a couple of weeks as it's back to work tomorrow and things are going to be busy for a while.Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
Sent: January 2, 2021 9:25 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi Janet, a few things as I have just set up a new laptop.
First, you will need sided assistance to get through the first few steps because narrator does not turn on until you are connected to the Internet. See if Best Buy will get you through to at least the desktop without an Internet connection.
Second, after you have gotten to the desktop and loaded your screen reader you will probably need to perform an update to the Windows operating system. Although the latest windows update has been out for a few months, I still needed to update to the 2008, H2 version.
I hope this information helps.

On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from
which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I
don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide
information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if
the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back
off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I
don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never
worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I
pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time.
If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it.
We don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator
may not have been the problem. Whenever I see this question
discussed, those who describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to
enter it, matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can
probably connect the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I
connected my iPhone using my network password and security number. My
Modem and Router is so old, and out dated as I've had it since 2009,
and I probably need a new one soon. Do you know if I can install Jaws
as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use Narrator? Last week when
I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to
enter information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop
will see your router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though,
speaking about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and
Router, but I do know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do
have WI-FI connections with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to
do is use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall,
its system Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but
System Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to
need something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been
discussed here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you
are discussing, the only thing I can think of is to set up your
computer to work with your WIFI, unless at home, you are going to
connect your computer to your router by cable. I don't know enough
about how you set up your computer to work with your WIFI to discuss
it. When I had my modem set up here, the serviceman set up my laptop
to work with it. I think AT&T does that for customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop,
what might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set
up an email program, install my screen reader, set up security though.
Just so I know what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how
to plug it in though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.

On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from
which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I
don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide
information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if
the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back
off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I
don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never
worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I
pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time.
If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it.
We don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator
may not have been the problem. Whenever I see this question
discussed, those who describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to
enter it, matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can
probably connect the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I
connected my iPhone using my network password and security number. My
Modem and Router is so old, and out dated as I've had it since 2009,
and I probably need a new one soon. Do you know if I can install Jaws
as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use Narrator? Last week when
I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to
enter information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop
will see your router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though,
speaking about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and
Router, but I do know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do
have WI-FI connections with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to
do is use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall,
its system Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but
System Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to
need something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been
discussed here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you
are discussing, the only thing I can think of is to set up your
computer to work with your WIFI, unless at home, you are going to
connect your computer to your router by cable. I don't know enough
about how you set up your computer to work with your WIFI to discuss
it. When I had my modem set up here, the serviceman set up my laptop
to work with it. I think AT&T does that for customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop,
what might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set
up an email program, install my screen reader, set up security though.
Just so I know what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how
to plug it in though! LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.

Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster


On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:

The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster


On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:

The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:

David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

Good Morning,

For the last several weeks whenever I open up Open Drive or Google or even
DropBox to download something someone has uploaded, at least 6 save as
windows will open. I can just pick one and the download will work, but the
windows keep opening and when the download is complete, I need to close each
of those windows individually. Until I do, a temp file shows up in my
download folder for each one as though it is trying to download what I just
finished successfully downloading.

Anyone else had this problem and any suggestions to a solution?

Thanks.

Vicki

 Hello everyone,

Can someone suggest a good EPUB reader?  I personally enjoyed using Microsoft  Edge, but it doesn't read EPUB files anymore. Currently, I'm using Acrobat DC, but it is not as smooth as MS Edge. It hangs while handling large files.

All suggestions are welcome

Regards

                 John

Gene, 
Thank you as this is great to hear.  One problem solved! Smile!  One of the very first things I would like to do is to put Brave on my Laptop.
I just think I will ask Best Buy if they will turn on Narrator, or I will turn it on to see if it will come on and stay on ! Isn't Narrator part of Windows? I'm wondering if Narrator is part of Windows, and if Narrator is not working correctly, is Windows fully installed.  Just trying to figure this out.
There has to be some way I can set up the Laptop though.  I don't know if it would do any good to call MS tech support though, and I have to admit if I have to do that, I dread that!  LOL! 
Janet 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Brave automatically blocks advertising so there is nothing to do.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
I will definitely be using Brave, as I absolutely love Brave as my browser, 
and I wouldn't even want to go online if I didn't have Brave!  Do I need to 
turn  on an ad blocker in Brave though, as I don't think I turned any on 
when I first installed Brave.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I would suggest, however, that you use either the Brave Browser for most of
your browsing or, if you want to use something else, use an ad blocker.  U
Block Origin, spelling, has a very good reputation and my recollection is
that I didn't have to do any setup.  I just installed it as an add-on or
plugin, or whatever the exact description is.  Its not a question of whether
you want to block ads, though you may, but advertising on web sites may be
dangerous.  Ads may be hacked and try to install malware.  So in addition to
antimalware software, I consider either a browser that blocks advertising by
design, Brave does, or one on which you install a good add blocker to be
important for Internet security.  Asto exactly how you install one on the
browser you will be using, the list can discuss that once you decide which
browser you will use as your main browser.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to do is
use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows.  As I recall, its system
Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but System
Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to need
something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been discussed
here when you first use the computer.  Aside from what you are discussing,
the only thing I can think of is to set up your computer to work with your
WIFI, unless at home, you are going to connect your computer to your router
by cable.  I don't know enough about how you set up your computer to work
with your WIFI to discuss it.  When I had my modem set up here, the
serviceman set up my laptop to work with it.  I think AT&T does that for
customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- 
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop, what
might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set up an email
program, install my screen reader, set up security though.  Just so I know
what to expect when I bring home my Laptop.  I know how to plug it in
though!  LOL!
Janet

Peace Be With You.

On Jan 2, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Gene,
I already asked Best buy if I or them could install my Network information for me, and they said I need to be home by my Wi-Fi in order to do this. I just might try to turn on Narrator when I am at Best Buy to see if it will work or not, because if it doesn't work, I don't know what is my next step! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I don't know what you can arrange, but it may be that the store from
which you purchase the computer from would have someone do it but I
don't know just what you are asked and if you need to provide
information you wouldn't want others to know. I also don't know if
the store would charge to do it.Narrator shouldn't automatically turn off.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Several people told me to use Narrator, and that is what I did, but
everytime I turned Narrator on, it would completely turn right back
off, and so that is why I say Narrator was no help to me at all. I
don't have any idea why Narrator was like that though, as I have never
worked with Narrator before. I will try to use Narrator again when I
pick up my Laptop this coming Tuesday, and see how it works this time.
If it doesn't work this time, I have no speech, so there for, I won't be able to set up the Laptop.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

I haven't gone through the setup procedure when you first run a new
computer. I doubt you can install anything until you go through it.
We don't know why you had the problems you had before, but Narrator
may not have been the problem. Whenever I see this question
discussed, those who describe what they do say they use Narrator.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Gene,
Ok this makes sense. I do know the information from my Router to
enter it, matter of fact, now that I finally thought about it, I can
probably connect the Laptop to my Wi-FI just like I do when I
connected my iPhone using my network password and security number. My
Modem and Router is so old, and out dated as I've had it since 2009,
and I probably need a new one soon. Do you know if I can install Jaws
as I turn on the Laptop, or do I need to use Narrator? Last week when
I tried to work with the other Laptop, Narrator wasn't any help at all.

Janet
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

No, but when you connect your laptop to the WIFI, you will have to
enter information on your laptop to allow it to connect. The laptop
will see your router but when you tell it to connect, it will ask for your security key.
I'm not sure if it asks for anything else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

HI Gene,
System Defender sounds like it will be enough for me. Now though,
speaking about Wi-Fi, my current PC is connected to my modem and
Router, but I do know or so I've been told by ATT back in 2009, I do
have WI-FI connections with this Modem and Router, but I'm now wondering will I need to do
something to my Modem or Router in order to connect my new Laptop to
Wi-Fi?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

As far as I know, you won't have to set up security if all you want to
do is use the program Mivcrosoft provides with Windows. As I recall,
its system Defender.

You may want to use something in addition such as Malware Bytes but
System Defender is a highly rated program and you will be unlikely to
need something else unless you want to use something like Malwaare Bytes.

You will have to go through some sort of procedure as has been
discussed here when you first use the computer. Aside from what you
are discussing, the only thing I can think of is to set up your
computer to work with your WIFI, unless at home, you are going to
connect your computer to your router by cable. I don't know enough
about how you set up your computer to work with your WIFI to discuss
it. When I had my modem set up here, the serviceman set up my laptop
to work with it. I think AT&T does that for customers when a router is connected by them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 5:19 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Setting up A New Laptop Question Please.

Hi All,
I'm just curious if Windows Ten is already installed on my Laptop,
what might be left that I would need to do? I know I will need to set
up an email program, install my screen reader, set up security though.
Just so I know what to expect when I bring home my Laptop. I know how
to plug it in though! LOL!
Janet

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They clearly don't automatically delete for the program you migrated them to if you don't delete that version.  You lost one setting. That may indicate that this one setting is lost.  I'm not even sure if its accurate that you lose settings for versions you delete.  That would need more discussion for verification. Usually, when you delete a program, the settings are kept so you can reinstall the program if you wish and still have your settings in the new installation.  I'm not saying that no programs delete ssettings, but it is not common.

You lost one setting and you can very easily change it.  That may be what happens in general and it may indeicate a bug or quirk but no extra care is indicated by this one experiendce.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 4:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Hi Brian:


Thank you for letting me know that the settings automatically delete
when you take off old versions of Jaws.  I will definitely remember that
next time.  This is the first time it has happened. I honestly thought
things would be fine since I migrated the settings months ago when I put
Jaws 2021 on.  Happy New Year!

Shelly

On 1/1/2021 10:49 AM, Brian Zolo wrote:

Hey there, shelly, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, happy New Year! Whenever you delete older versions of jaws, your settings are deleted so whenever you install a new version of jaws, it's important that you go into the basic options and make sure that you checkbox that says start jaws at the logon screen.  The next setting is start jaws for all users and I leave that setting unchecked and then your next setting is start jaws for this user always that's a combo box and I leave mine for this user and the go to okay and hit your space bar and then just tab on over to lkay again and hit your space bar and you're finished.  I sure wish that vispero would add something to the installation that asks you whether you want to keep your settings so that you don't have to keep doing this as it sure would make things much simpler for folks, grin!  BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I did what you said and it was unchecked.  I have no idea how that setting got unchecked when I deleted the older versions of Jaws.  If I have any other problems, I will be sure to post.  So glad that there are Jaws users here.  Thanks again and Happy New Year everyone!

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 1:18 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

Hi Shelley,
Okay.
1. Go to the Jaws context menu either by clicking on the Jaws shortcut
that's on your desktop (if you have one on your desktop) or by pressing insert j 2. Once you get to  the context menu Options will be the first thing that comes up.
3. Enter on options and tab 3 times to Autimatically start Jaws...
button Once you enter on that button a dialog box will come up and the first option is "Start Jaws at the log-on screen" and Jaws will tell you whether it's checked or unchecked. If it's unchecked then check it and tab to the okay button. You'll be asked to restart Jaws, once you do this then everything should be back to normal.
Hope these instructions are clear and simple enough... If not then sorry, hopefully someone else can give you simpler ones.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

Madison:


I don't think we changed anything.  Maybe we hit something accidentally when we deleted them.  When I downloaded 2021, I checked the box to have Jaws start up when I turn on the computer.  If you can tell me where to check that, I would appreciate it.  Maybe it got unchecked somehow.

Shelly

On 12/31/2020 12:26 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

Hi Shelley,
Did you happen to change any settings when uninstalling the other 2 versions of Jaws? If so, then let me know and I'll try and help you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: December 31, 2020 3:21 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Jaws Help, Please!

            Hi Group:


I deleted Jaws 2019 and 2020 because I now have Jaws 2021 and I
didn't need the other ones.  Since I have taken the other versions
off my computer, now when I turn on the computer to sign in using my
pin, Jaws
2021 no longer says anything like it used to.  It would always tell me to sign in and now it's not.  Do you know how I can get this to talk again when I first turn on the computer? When I downloaded it a few months ago, I checked everything so it would turn on right away and it did.  I'm not sure if we hit something taking off the other programs and now it's not turning on.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Simple Instructions would be most helpful. I'm not tech savvy.  When I type in my pin, Jaws does come up but I need it right when I turn on the computer like it was.

Shelly

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