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This week on Eyes On Success: Access Technology Reminiscences

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For the first episode of eyes On Success of the new year we have:

2102 Access Technology Reminiscences (Jan. 6, 2021)
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David Bradburn, Vice-President Global Sales at Humanware, has been involved in the access technology field for over 35 years. A lot has changed over that time. Listen in on a conversation between David as a salesman and host Peter Torpey as a user as they reminisce about the evolution of access technology equipment since the early days.

 

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Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Thank you Gene. I'm sure I will need that web site as I start to learn NVDA.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

When you start to use NVDA, if you don't know about resources for learning
it, ask here. There is a specific web page on the NVDA site for those
beginning to use NVDA who are JAWS users. I haven't looked at it for a long
time so I can't evaluate it but it will have useful information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.



Hi Heather,

I haven’t ever used NVDA or Narrator, but I do use JAWS, so I will be
wanting to put JAWS on my new Laptop. I also want to get used to NVDA, but
I’ll stick with JAWS and use Narrator to set up my Laptop, and once I get
used to the Laptop, I am going to start using NVDA, so I can have a second
screen reader just in case JAWS gets a little upset with me! LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
heather albright
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Well, if you know how to use NVDA, you can always put it on a thumb drive
and stick in the laptop and you can set it up using NVDA instead of
narrator! And you can take that portable copy and install it on your laptop
as a full copy if you want to use NVDA! But narrator will set up windows and
it will talk you threw it; just have turn it on. The tricky part is to set
up a local account instead of a Microsoft account; they changed it now!
Cheers Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Monte,

The only difference between the Intel and the AMD is $100 so far as I can
see. But, like you say, if the keys are right, and I plan on using it for
as long as I can, I might as well pay the extra! Smile! So, I think I will
go to Best Buy tomorrow, and cancel the Asus, and feel the other ones there.
So now, if I do buy a different one, I might have to try and set it up
myself, and this means I will have to deal with Narrator once again, as the
Geeks are so busy people need to schedule an appointment at least a few days
in advance, but who knows, maybe they just might set it up for me, just to
get rid of me once in for all! LOL! If not, I might have to schedule an
appointment just so I can finally get up and running!



Thank you for all this.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Janet,



If I were buying a new laptop or desktop, I would not care if the processor
was intel or a m d, if they were of equal speed and price.

It’s really just a brand.

If it costs a few dollars more, get the one that feels right for your
fingers and hands;; you’ll be felling that keyboard for many hundreds of
hours!



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: January 4, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I
did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it was what Best
Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that. I also seen a
HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t
know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have
brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for
several months or even a year. Although, as I am searching online, I have
noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD
Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that
sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you
currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with
the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I
pressed them. The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many
different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.



Thank you for all this.

Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer
shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the
crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also
wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any
of the intel core I5 computers or AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB
Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean
there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi,

Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I want a
Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I know what I
want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I
know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just
as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor or ram
etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models
coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the
device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but
for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so
great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.



Good luck.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or
an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing
some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is
showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at
Best Buy didn't tell me that. So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and
ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see
different prices for computer Laptops.



Thank you all for any help in this.



Janet

Janet oppsode



Peace Be With You.


Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
I'm glad to hear that! Smile!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 9:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

I'm feeling alright. I've been active. Thanks for azsking.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
How are you feeling? I haven't seen you out here much, but then again I
haven't been out here much myself until lately.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 11:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

That's just a coincidence. Stores don't do something to make computers
break. it would be illegal, it would be easy for the stores to be caught
one way or another and it would only be able to be done when someone
purchased something to be shipped, not an in store purchase.

And what would the thing be? You can't sabotage a machine so it will break
after the year warranty. You could do something like damage animportant
fan, but that would cause problems shortly after purchase.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
I know the insurances are expensive, but when I don't buy the insurance,
something goes wrong, and now if I do buy the insurance, everything is fine.
I really just wonder sometimes if these stores do something to the product
if a person doesn't buy insurance. I know it sounds crazy, but I really
just wonder sometimes.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

I never buy extended warranties on computers. In this case, the price you
are paying is more than half the price of a new computer and, while
something may happen, it probably won't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.



Juan,

Best Buy did offer me a three year accidental warranty, and I did buy it,
but it cost me $245. If I wanted total Geek insurance, that would have cost
another $145, and that was only for one year, so if I wanted the total
insurance next year, I would have to pay another $145. All this insurance
could cost more than the Laptop! Smile! On both of those Laptops did have
SSD, as I do like those on my machines.





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





I don’t know the in and outs of best buys policies Unfortunately but they do
offer extended warranty on open box items so that might be something to
consider. The amount you will save from buying an open item could be used to
buy the extended warranty.



I understand all about not needing the latest and greatest. I just went over
to my brothers house and installed an SSD to his 2005 dell xps M1330 dual
core laptop. He was ready to throw it out cause it was very slow and he only
needs it to watch movies. Putting that SSD gave it another life line with a
clean of windows 10.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,



If it is an “open box” item at bestbuy, would the usual 1 year warranty
apply?



I purchased a used hp desktop from amazon about 18 months ago.

It has a 6th gen I 5 processor with 8 gig of ddr4 ram.



It’s a little slow decompressing large, 30 gig files, and converting books
from text to speech, but that’s fine.



I’m not trying to prevent a cataclysm with it.

If I get 2 or 3 years use out of it, that’s fine.

99 per cent of us do not need the latest and the greatest.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan
Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





The one that I currently have is the Lenovo legion but again it’s a gaming
computer so might be over kill for what you are looking for. Best buy has
been doing that more recently, selling open box items. They are not bad it
might just be some one opened it didn’t like it and returned it. I am sure
they have inspected it to make sure everything is like new but you can
always tell them that you want a brand new one. That sales person doesn’t
sound like a good one if he didn’t tell you what you were buying. I got one
of those when I went in so I went to a different best buy and got a better
sales person. I almost bought an Asus gaming computer because of the
keyboard layout and everything being so nicely spaced out but it did not
have a number pad. It really depends on how much you are looking to spend,
if you want to save some money you can get an i5 9th generation processer to
save some money and you would not notice the difference in speed with the 10
generation. I would safely go back as far as a 6 generation i5 processer for
what you are looking to do.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I
did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it was what Best
Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that. I also seen a
HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t
know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have
brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for
several months or even a year. Although, as I am searching online, I have
noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD
Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that
sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you
currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with
the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I
pressed them. The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many
different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.



Thank you for all this.

Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer
shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the
crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also
wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any
of the intel core I5 computers or AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB
Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean
there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi,

Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I want a
Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I know what I
want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I
know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just
as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor or ram
etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models
coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the
device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but
for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so
great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.



Good luck.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or
an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing
some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is
showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at
Best Buy didn't tell me that. So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and
ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see
different prices for computer Laptops.



Thank you all for any help in this.



Janet

Janet oppsode



Peace Be With You.


Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Gene
 

I'm feeling alright. I've been active. Thanks for azsking.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
How are you feeling? I haven't seen you out here much, but then again I haven't been out here much myself until lately.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 11:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

That's just a coincidence. Stores don't do something to make computers
break. it would be illegal, it would be easy for the stores to be caught
one way or another and it would only be able to be done when someone
purchased something to be shipped, not an in store purchase.

And what would the thing be? You can't sabotage a machine so it will break
after the year warranty. You could do something like damage animportant
fan, but that would cause problems shortly after purchase.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
I know the insurances are expensive, but when I don't buy the insurance,
something goes wrong, and now if I do buy the insurance, everything is fine.
I really just wonder sometimes if these stores do something to the product
if a person doesn't buy insurance. I know it sounds crazy, but I really
just wonder sometimes.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

I never buy extended warranties on computers. In this case, the price you
are paying is more than half the price of a new computer and, while
something may happen, it probably won't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.



Juan,

Best Buy did offer me a three year accidental warranty, and I did buy it,
but it cost me $245. If I wanted total Geek insurance, that would have cost
another $145, and that was only for one year, so if I wanted the total
insurance next year, I would have to pay another $145. All this insurance
could cost more than the Laptop! Smile! On both of those Laptops did have
SSD, as I do like those on my machines.





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





I don’t know the in and outs of best buys policies Unfortunately but they do
offer extended warranty on open box items so that might be something to
consider. The amount you will save from buying an open item could be used to
buy the extended warranty.



I understand all about not needing the latest and greatest. I just went over
to my brothers house and installed an SSD to his 2005 dell xps M1330 dual
core laptop. He was ready to throw it out cause it was very slow and he only
needs it to watch movies. Putting that SSD gave it another life line with a
clean of windows 10.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,



If it is an “open box” item at bestbuy, would the usual 1 year warranty
apply?



I purchased a used hp desktop from amazon about 18 months ago.

It has a 6th gen I 5 processor with 8 gig of ddr4 ram.



It’s a little slow decompressing large, 30 gig files, and converting books
from text to speech, but that’s fine.



I’m not trying to prevent a cataclysm with it.

If I get 2 or 3 years use out of it, that’s fine.

99 per cent of us do not need the latest and the greatest.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan
Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





The one that I currently have is the Lenovo legion but again it’s a gaming
computer so might be over kill for what you are looking for. Best buy has
been doing that more recently, selling open box items. They are not bad it
might just be some one opened it didn’t like it and returned it. I am sure
they have inspected it to make sure everything is like new but you can
always tell them that you want a brand new one. That sales person doesn’t
sound like a good one if he didn’t tell you what you were buying. I got one
of those when I went in so I went to a different best buy and got a better
sales person. I almost bought an Asus gaming computer because of the
keyboard layout and everything being so nicely spaced out but it did not
have a number pad. It really depends on how much you are looking to spend,
if you want to save some money you can get an i5 9th generation processer to
save some money and you would not notice the difference in speed with the 10
generation. I would safely go back as far as a 6 generation i5 processer for
what you are looking to do.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I
did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it was what Best
Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that. I also seen a
HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t
know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have
brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for
several months or even a year. Although, as I am searching online, I have
noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD
Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that
sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you
currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with
the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I
pressed them. The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many
different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.



Thank you for all this.

Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer
shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the
crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also
wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any
of the intel core I5 computers or AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB
Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean
there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi,

Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I want a
Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I know what I
want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I
know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just
as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor or ram
etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models
coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the
device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but
for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so
great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.



Good luck.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or
an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing
some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is
showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at
Best Buy didn't tell me that. So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and
ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see
different prices for computer Laptops.



Thank you all for any help in this.



Janet

Janet oppsode



Peace Be With You.


Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Hi Gene,
How are you feeling? I haven't seen you out here much, but then again I haven't been out here much myself until lately.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 11:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

That's just a coincidence. Stores don't do something to make computers
break. it would be illegal, it would be easy for the stores to be caught
one way or another and it would only be able to be done when someone
purchased something to be shipped, not an in store purchase.

And what would the thing be? You can't sabotage a machine so it will break
after the year warranty. You could do something like damage animportant
fan, but that would cause problems shortly after purchase.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
I know the insurances are expensive, but when I don't buy the insurance,
something goes wrong, and now if I do buy the insurance, everything is fine.
I really just wonder sometimes if these stores do something to the product
if a person doesn't buy insurance. I know it sounds crazy, but I really
just wonder sometimes.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

I never buy extended warranties on computers. In this case, the price you
are paying is more than half the price of a new computer and, while
something may happen, it probably won't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.



Juan,

Best Buy did offer me a three year accidental warranty, and I did buy it,
but it cost me $245. If I wanted total Geek insurance, that would have cost
another $145, and that was only for one year, so if I wanted the total
insurance next year, I would have to pay another $145. All this insurance
could cost more than the Laptop! Smile! On both of those Laptops did have
SSD, as I do like those on my machines.





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





I don’t know the in and outs of best buys policies Unfortunately but they do
offer extended warranty on open box items so that might be something to
consider. The amount you will save from buying an open item could be used to
buy the extended warranty.



I understand all about not needing the latest and greatest. I just went over
to my brothers house and installed an SSD to his 2005 dell xps M1330 dual
core laptop. He was ready to throw it out cause it was very slow and he only
needs it to watch movies. Putting that SSD gave it another life line with a
clean of windows 10.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,



If it is an “open box” item at bestbuy, would the usual 1 year warranty
apply?



I purchased a used hp desktop from amazon about 18 months ago.

It has a 6th gen I 5 processor with 8 gig of ddr4 ram.



It’s a little slow decompressing large, 30 gig files, and converting books
from text to speech, but that’s fine.



I’m not trying to prevent a cataclysm with it.

If I get 2 or 3 years use out of it, that’s fine.

99 per cent of us do not need the latest and the greatest.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan
Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





The one that I currently have is the Lenovo legion but again it’s a gaming
computer so might be over kill for what you are looking for. Best buy has
been doing that more recently, selling open box items. They are not bad it
might just be some one opened it didn’t like it and returned it. I am sure
they have inspected it to make sure everything is like new but you can
always tell them that you want a brand new one. That sales person doesn’t
sound like a good one if he didn’t tell you what you were buying. I got one
of those when I went in so I went to a different best buy and got a better
sales person. I almost bought an Asus gaming computer because of the
keyboard layout and everything being so nicely spaced out but it did not
have a number pad. It really depends on how much you are looking to spend,
if you want to save some money you can get an i5 9th generation processer to
save some money and you would not notice the difference in speed with the 10
generation. I would safely go back as far as a 6 generation i5 processer for
what you are looking to do.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I
did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it was what Best
Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that. I also seen a
HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t
know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have
brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for
several months or even a year. Although, as I am searching online, I have
noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD
Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that
sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you
currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with
the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I
pressed them. The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many
different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.



Thank you for all this.

Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer
shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the
crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also
wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any
of the intel core I5 computers or AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB
Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean
there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi,

Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I want a
Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I know what I
want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I
know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just
as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor or ram
etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models
coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the
device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but
for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so
great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.



Good luck.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or
an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing
some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is
showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at
Best Buy didn't tell me that. So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and
ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see
different prices for computer Laptops.



Thank you all for any help in this.



Janet

Janet oppsode



Peace Be With You.


Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Chris,

I know I will need to get through the set up using Narrator.  I will some months later install NVDA, as I think it is a good idea to have to screen readers so if JAWS gets a little flakey, I can use NVDA. 

 

Janet  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

You will still have to get through the initial set-up screens before you can use NVDA though.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Well, if you know how to use NVDA, you can always put it on a thumb drive and stick in the laptop and you can set it up using NVDA instead of narrator! And you can take that portable copy and install it on your laptop as a full copy if you want to use NVDA! But narrator will set up windows and it will talk you threw it; just have turn it on. The tricky part is to set up a local account instead of a Microsoft account; they changed it now! Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi Monte,

The only difference between the Intel and the AMD is $100 so far as I can see.  But, like you say, if the keys are right, and I plan on using it for as long as I can, I might as well pay the extra!  Smile!  So, I think I will go to Best Buy tomorrow, and cancel the Asus, and feel the other ones there.  So now, if I do buy a different one, I might have to try and set it up myself, and this means I will have to deal with Narrator once again, as the Geeks are so busy people need to schedule an appointment at least a few days in advance, but who knows, maybe they just might set it up for me, just to get rid of me once in for all!  LOL!  If not, I might have to schedule an appointment just so I can finally get up and running! 

 

Thank you for all this. 

 

Janet   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,

 

If I were buying a new laptop or desktop,  I would not care if the processor was intel or  a m d, if they were of equal speed and price.

It’s really just a brand.

If it costs a few dollars more, get the one that feels right for your fingers and hands;;  you’ll be felling that keyboard for many hundreds of hours!

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: January 4, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I did like that as it also had a NumPad.  I just didn’t know it was what Best Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that.  I also seen a HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for several months or even a year.  Although, as I am searching online, I have noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD Risen like the one I bought.  So, I don’t really know what all that means.  Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I pressed them.  The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short. 

 

Thank you for all this. 

Janet

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any of the intel core I5  computers or  AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

                    

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi,

Thank you for this.  I won’t be doing any gaming or video though.  I want a Laptop basically for using email, basic editing,  etc.  So I know what I want, but trying to find it is another thing.  LOL!  

 

Janet    

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs  such as processor or ram etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.

 

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

 

Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at Best Buy didn't tell me that.  So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see different prices for computer Laptops. 

 

Thank you all for any help in this. 

 

Janet   

Janet oppsode

 

Peace Be With You.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Chris,
Oh Yes, this does matter to me. I paid for a brand new Laptop, not one that was an open box. WE are talking with taxes, $662, oh yeah, it needs to be new. If I paid for something brand new, I definitely want it to be brand new. As I also stated before, I was getting emails from Best Buy Outlet, in which I never heard of. So today I bought a brand new one exactly the same except this one I bought today just isn't a VivoBook, and I'm fine with that. Best Buy will send me an email to let me know when I can pick it up, and I don't think it will be to long because they had this one in stock.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

And if you are purchasing it from a reputable store, and if the warranty is still as new, what difference does it really make if it's open box or not?

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:31 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Open box doesn't mean someone had the laptop for a year. Normally it means someone got it and returned it. I really really hope you find what you are looking for. I have a dell refurbished laptop and it runs great so I have no problem with buying refurbished

On 1/4/21, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Monte,
The only difference between the Intel and the AMD is $100 so far as I
can see. But, like you say, if the keys are right, and I plan on
using it for as long as I can, I might as well pay the extra! Smile!
So, I think I will go to Best Buy tomorrow, and cancel the Asus, and feel the other ones there.
So now, if I do buy a different one, I might have to try and set it
up myself, and this means I will have to deal with Narrator once
again, as the Geeks are so busy people need to schedule an appointment
at least a few days in advance, but who knows, maybe they just might
set it up for me, just to get rid of me once in for all! LOL! If
not, I might have to schedule an appointment just so I can finally get up and running!

Thank you for all this.

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If I were buying a new laptop or desktop, I would not care if the
processor was intel or a m d, if they were of equal speed and price.
It’s really just a brand.
If it costs a few dollars more, get the one that feels right for your
fingers and hands;; you’ll be felling that keyboard for many hundreds
of hours!
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: January 4, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Juan,
I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus,
and I did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it
was what Best Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me
that. I also seen a HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop
I liked, but I now don’t know if all those Laptops are out of the box,
meaning someone could have brought it back to the store as a trade in
after they might have had it for several months or even a year.
Although, as I am searching online, I have noticed the Asus Laptops
now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as
that sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo
one you currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the
problem I had with the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick
down in the board when I pressed them. The keys were to large for my
fingers, and they were to many different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.

Thank you for all this.
Janet


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Gonzalez via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a
computer shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do
not like the crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has
great spacing. I also wanted one with a number pad and this one had
it. I also would stay with any of the intel core I5 computers or AMD
Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.
Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t
mean there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.
Juan Gonzalez
IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology
Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704
www.chicagolighthouse.org<http://www.chicagolighthouse.org>







From: Janet<mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi,
Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I
want a Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I
know what I want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as
far as I know and vivobook from Asus.
They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that
series, just as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.
Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor
or ram etc.
Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several
models coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy
consumption.
So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.
You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.
To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are
getting the device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these
are not so good, but for productivity and portability, these are perfect.
And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not
so great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.

Good luck.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10

From: Janet<mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi everyone,
Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop
ThinkPad or an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer
Laptop? I am doing some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I
recently bought, as it is showing this is not a new Laptop, and I
didn't know that as the salesmen at Best Buy didn't tell me that. So
I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad
Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see different prices for computer Laptops.

Thank you all for any help in this.

Janet
Janet oppsode

Peace Be With You.














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Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet
 

Carolyn,
Thank you for the suggestion, but I already bought another ASUS today. I cancelled my appointment with the Geek Squad for today, as well as the purchase of the ASUS VivoBook Laptop. When I was on line to check for another ASUS as I seem to like those keyboards, and I found the exact same one I had bought last week for the exact same price, and this one is brand new, and not open box. The only difference is the one I bought today, is not a VivoBook, and this is fine with me. I didn't buy any of the warranties though, and I'm fine with that I hope! Smile! I also know where the control, windows. Enter keys so I can once again try to get Narrator going, so I can complete the set up. Instead of having the Laptop delivered, I will pick it up, and I will take it out of the box, and if Narrator doesn't stay on, I will leave the Laptop there! Smile!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 9:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Janet, I wonder if you would have better luck with Wal-Mart? Of course, I realize, that a Wal-Mart store might not be accessible to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Carolyn,
I've seen just way too many times how people treat those floor devices. It might not have even been a floor device, it could have been someone took it home, and used it for awhile, it could have been a trade in, but Best Buy says it is new, but when I check my account on line, it makes it perfectly clear this is an out of the box item, and matter of fact, on their web site, they also say they don't sell this Laptop new anymore, but yet they want to charge me for the full price as a new Laptop, but that's not going to happen! LOL! ,

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 7:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Good thing you took the thing back.

The guy at Wal-Mart told me their floor devices get terrible treatment. He showed me a keyboard with keys taken off it. Maybe some guy from Clinton's time came to good old Sanford, NC and took a couple of keys before old George W could come buy and try it out, hahahaha.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 6:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Carolyn,
Paying $50 isn't bad. The Laptop I bought was $699.99, but because I couldn't use the chat feature online, I had a friend to go online to see if she could get Best Buy to do a price match, and Best Buy did for $100 in which brought down the price to $500.99, but I still say that is to much money to pay for something out of the box, or at least for me it is. I wasn't even told this Laptop was out of the box though. I didn't even know this until I got an email from them thanking me for shopping at Best Buy Outlet, but I wasn't shopping at an outlet store. Because it was a out of the box Laptop, that could very well answer my question is why I couldn't keep Narrator turned on long enough to set up my new Laptop. I guess is like the saying, everything happens for a reason because if I did set up my Laptop, I probably wouldn't have ever known I didn't buy a new Laptop, but instead I bought something that was out of the box, in which means that could be for several different reasons why it was out of the box. Best Buy does have a trade in Laptop program, and they can't guarantee me this was not a trade in, or just something that was on the floor for anyone who wanted to just play around with it.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Jim had a refurbished Motorola Android phone, white, by the way. The thing just worked, never gave him a problem, but he closed his account, decided he didn't use a cell phone enough to justify paying for it. We paid $50 for the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Open box doesn't mean someone had the laptop for a year. Normally it means someone got it and returned it. I really really hope you find what you are looking for. I have a dell refurbished laptop and it runs great so I have no problem with buying refurbished

On 1/4/21, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Monte,
The only difference between the Intel and the AMD is $100 so far as I
can see. But, like you say, if the keys are right, and I plan on
using it for as long as I can, I might as well pay the extra! Smile!
So, I think I will go to Best Buy tomorrow, and cancel the Asus, and feel the other ones there.
So now, if I do buy a different one, I might have to try and set it
up myself, and this means I will have to deal with Narrator once
again, as the Geeks are so busy people need to schedule an appointment
at least a few days in advance, but who knows, maybe they just might
set it up for me, just to get rid of me once in for all! LOL! If
not, I might have to schedule an appointment just so I can finally get up and running!

Thank you for all this.

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If I were buying a new laptop or desktop, I would not care if the
processor was intel or a m d, if they were of equal speed and price.
It’s really just a brand.
If it costs a few dollars more, get the one that feels right for your
fingers and hands;; you’ll be felling that keyboard for many hundreds
of hours!
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: January 4, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Juan,
I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus,
and I did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it
was what Best Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me
that. I also seen a HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop
I liked, but I now don’t know if all those Laptops are out of the box,
meaning someone could have brought it back to the store as a trade in
after they might have had it for several months or even a year.
Although, as I am searching online, I have noticed the Asus Laptops
now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as
that sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo
one you currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the
problem I had with the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick
down in the board when I pressed them. The keys were to large for my
fingers, and they were to many different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.

Thank you for all this.
Janet


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Gonzalez via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a
computer shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do
not like the crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has
great spacing. I also wanted one with a number pad and this one had
it. I also would stay with any of the intel core I5 computers or AMD
Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.
Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t
mean there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.
Juan Gonzalez
IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology
Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704
www.chicagolighthouse.org<http://www.chicagolighthouse.org>







From: Janet<mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi,
Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I
want a Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I
know what I want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as
far as I know and vivobook from Asus.
They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that
series, just as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.
Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor
or ram etc.
Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several
models coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy
consumption.
So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.
You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.
To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are
getting the device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these
are not so good, but for productivity and portability, these are perfect.
And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not
so great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.

Good luck.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10

From: Janet<mailto:janet.harvard@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi everyone,
Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop
ThinkPad or an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer
Laptop? I am doing some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I
recently bought, as it is showing this is not a new Laptop, and I
didn't know that as the salesmen at Best Buy didn't tell me that. So
I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad
Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see different prices for computer Laptops.

Thank you all for any help in this.

Janet
Janet oppsode

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Re: Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Janet
 

Carolyn,
Yes, I did get the warranty, but I never had to use it. So, I paid $250 for the two year warranty for nothing! Although Apple is pretty good if someone has a problem with their devices even without any warranty.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 10:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Then, I hope you got warranty coverage on your phone. Mine does not get flaky, at least, as far as I know, it does not.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Carolyn,
My phone can get pretty flaky sometimes. Sometimes, I feel like throwing it against the wall, but sometimes and only when it works fine, I love it, and I couldn't be without it. Go figure! Smile!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 7:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

What does your iPhone do that doesn't work, Janet?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 6:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Carolyn,
So your iPhone works all the time, you are lucky! Smile!
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

As far as I know, my iPhone works all the time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Hi Sugar, Pam, Carolyn,
Oh sure I love my iPhone too, but only when it works! Smile! Although, there are still times when I would just like to make a phonecall, and not have to bother listening to Siri or Voiceover, as sometimes it just talks way too much. I know the ways to stop them from talking, but that is what I get tired of. So I guess, one could say I have a love-hate relationship with my iPhone, meaning I love it when it works, and I hate it when it doesn’t! I do miss my old flip phone, but I doubt very much if I could ever get used to another flip phone though again.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Hat's what I use to say and now, I love my Iphone sugar “How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”
- - Winnie the Pooh

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

-Sugar, ❤😘

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 10:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

I can't see myself using an iPhone at all. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

You know, Janet, I do not miss my old flip phones, which, I guess could be why I replaced them. They never had enough battery life and tended to be clumsy, compared to the iPhone, once I really started to use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 9:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Hi All,
Wow, talking about a flip phone makes me smile! I had a flip phone for so long until I bought my iPhone. I have to admit, I do sometimes really just miss my old flip phones though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 7:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Read Out is pretty good, especially with texsting. I had an LG Revere that had it. I am glad to hear that Net Ten now has an accessible flip phone to offer at a good price. I was very happy with Net Ten, when I had them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

I wanted to report on the accessibility of the LG. Classic flip phone from Net10. I was pleasantly surprised on how well read out works.(read out is the screen reader). You will need sighted help to turn on read out in the Initial setup. After that you can read all menus, settings contact, messages and etc. Manual is not much help with explaining the accessible settings. Haven't tested Internet browser or
typing. But this might be a good phone for some people who
don't need a full smart phone. It can be purchased for $39 or less if you buy a plan with the phone.




















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Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Gene
 

I meant control o.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 8:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Gene,

It isn't clear about pressing Control to open a dialog box. Usually the control key bky itself does nothing. It needs a modifier.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You can probably play files within the program, even if you can't by
pressing enter on them in the list outside of the program.
In Windows media player, press control to open the open dialog. Shift tab
once or twice, I'm don't know just how things are set up in Windows 10.
You can get to a list of files and folders. If you back space you will move
back from where you are toard the c drive. If you backspace more, you will
be in a list and computer will be one of the items. Press enter
Move to the drive, I think it is an external drive, and press enter. Move
to where you want to be as usual on the drive. Try playing a file. After
that, we can see if you can play files as you wish, perhaps selected files
or an entire folder.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Good Morning, Blaster,

I had no trouble removing Web Adviser.

when it comes to File Associations, I had limited success.

Thanks to Gene, I was very careful to select WAV. When I entered on that, it
showed that Windows Media Player was the default player. I accepted this and
closed that out.

I still couldn't play wivefiles. I went further and found that I couldn't
play MP3 and MIDI files.

In one of my many trials I got one file to play but I have no idea how that
happened.

Where am I, except lost, of course?

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster


On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right
and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not
show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that
you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k
now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web
Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until
Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other
things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can
do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:
David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in
that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a
system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed.
No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD
collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That
is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY






































Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hi, Gene,

It isn't clear about pressing Control to open a dialog box. Usually the control key bky itself does nothing. It needs a modifier.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You can probably play files within the program, even if you can't by
pressing enter on them in the list outside of the program.
In Windows media player, press control to open the open dialog. Shift tab
once or twice, I'm don't know just how things are set up in Windows 10.
You can get to a list of files and folders. If you back space you will move
back from where you are toard the c drive. If you backspace more, you will
be in a list and computer will be one of the items. Press enter
Move to the drive, I think it is an external drive, and press enter. Move
to where you want to be as usual on the drive. Try playing a file. After
that, we can see if you can play files as you wish, perhaps selected files
or an entire folder.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Good Morning, Blaster,

I had no trouble removing Web Adviser.

when it comes to File Associations, I had limited success.

Thanks to Gene, I was very careful to select WAV. When I entered on that, it
showed that Windows Media Player was the default player. I accepted this and
closed that out.

I still couldn't play wivefiles. I went further and found that I couldn't
play MP3 and MIDI files.

In one of my many trials I got one file to play but I have no idea how that
happened.

Where am I, except lost, of course?

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2021 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, Everything I wrote was for Windows 7, not Windows 10 as you
mentioned that in your first post. The ninite.com website removes all
adware before you download it to your PC, that's why I suggested the
K-lite codec pack, and yes it does work in Windows 7. But since it
opened and played in the media player classic it's safe to assume
you've got a working codec for .wav files installed. So, If you want
to get rid of web advisor first then go to your control panel, then
find the add and remove programs section and remove the McAffee Web
Advisor. You will probably need to remove the entire McAfee suite if
it's like all of the other McAfee products that I've dealt with in the
past. I think the only other option, that is if you want to keep the
McAfee suite, is to temporarily disable it when you need to accomplish
a task that it's blocking and I think that's got to be done in
whatever browser your using. I'm no fan of McAfee, so I'd get rid of
it, but that's your choice.

As far as the file explorer issue, I'm not sure why your getting a
different fly-out window on the open with screen, as arrowing down
should give you a list of programs associated with .wav files followed
by the choose another program option. Mike may have something there,
so try arrowing to the right instead of down to see if the menu is
horizontal. If that doesn't work, we're not sunk yet, Press the
windows key on your keyboard and type "file associations" in the type
in field and press the enter key. This should open the file
associations window, where you can skim through the list until you
find the .wav format and then choose the program you want to associate
with this file type manually. Follow the instructions at the top of
the page and see if that works for you. If you have any troubles, just
post back here to the list.

HTH,
Blaster


On 1/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
The folders in Explorer may not be in a list so, try using your right
and
left arrow keys.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files


Hi, Blaster,

I now can say that you are on the track. Here's what happens:

First, I cannot get to my wavefile folder with Explorer. It does not
show me

everiy folder. It just shows Documents and Libraries, and control panel.

I therefore bypassed that step and went to the folder by running it.

I selected a wavefile.

I pressed the context menu key and found Open with.

I wasn't given a choice. It showed Media Classic, O.

I pressed O, and the highlighted selection began playing.

This is the only selection which played.

I guess this is because I could not follow your outline. I suspect that
you

are getting this outline from Win 10 a nd not 7, but I don't really k
now
that.

I was able to download a Win 7 codecs pack, but other things came along,
including Winzip Updater.

I can't uninstall it and other unasked for programs. There's Web
Advisor,
and it won't uninstall and it won't let me install anything else until
Web
Adviser is uninstalled, and looks like it won't ever want to disappear.

It reminds me of Congress where we get what we want along with other
things

we would never care to have.

There you have it. I hope you or some others can figure out what I can
do to

solve the wavefile problems and get rid of uninvited guests.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, January 1, 2021 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



Joe, You don't really have to know what the codec files are exactly,
only that they are installed on your pc. Windows will pick and choose
which ones it wants whenever it wants one. But, Here's something else
you can try. Just in case your file associations got a little mixed
up between audio programs, you can re-associate the .wav file type
with your media player. I'm not sure if specific codecs are tied to
file associations, but it's worth a try.

Press the windows key on your keyboard and tap the letter E key to
open a file explorer window.

Navigate to a folder where you keep your .wav files.

Arrow up or down to select a .wav file.

Press the context key on your keyboard, shift key plus the F10 key if
you use a laptop, to open the context window.

Arrow up or down until you come to the selection titled "Open with"
and press the right-arrow key to open the fly-out window.

Even though media player is in this list, arrow down to the selection
titled "choose another program" and press the enter key.

In this window, Tap the tab key until you get to a list of programs,
In this list, arrow down to media player and then tap the tab key to
jump down to a check box that says always use this program to open the
associated file type.

Press the space bar to check the box and then tab to the OK button and
press the enter key.

You'll be taken back to the file explorer where your .wav file should
still be selected, so press the enter key on it and see if it opens in
media player and starts to pley.

Good luck,
Blaster



On 1/1/21, Joe Giovanelli <joegio100@gmail.com> wrote:
David, just to say that your suggestion does not work with Win 7.

I looked at codecs but they are more complicated than my pay grade.

I hope you or others have more ideas.

Thank you.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files



You may want to reinstall your codecs just in case the one Media
player and VLC has become corrupted. You can get the K-lite codec
pack from this website:

https://ninite.com/accessible

HTH,
Blaster


On 12/28/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in
the
list,

and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context
menu
and
press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the
file
to
play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no
longer
will

let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media
Player
is

the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and
wave
files

still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in
that
software

cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a
system
restore

point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed.
No
good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD
collection

is
now

on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files,
but
I
don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That
is
what I

would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY






































Re: Problem with email delivery.

Gene
 

I'm not sure what is occuring. If you check and see that the message is going to the correct address, it shouldn't go to both addresses. it sounds as though the messages are going to the correct address and to the incorrect address.

There are ways to place an address in a message using contacts that don't involve autocomplete. If you don't know how to do that with your specific program, ask here.

Meantime, try manually writing the entire address in the to line of a message and don't use autocomplete. Send the message and see what happens.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

This has been going on for a year or so. I send her several
a week, and they just keep coming. As far as we can figure,
she eventually get them all or most of them anyway. I just
don't know what to do to get that net out of my computer.
I've tried typing it in, regardless of the address coming
up, which says dot com, when it does.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

I really doubt it. A delivery failure message would result
from a delivery failure, not from an unsent message. An
unsent message has never been attempted to be delivered.

How long and how often do you receive the undelivery
message? When mail can't be delivered, you may receive a
number of failure messages over a period of many days. the
messages may say something like this was the third delivery
attempt, we shall continue to try two more times. Your
message may not have said that but at this point, wait to
see if the messages stop.
They should stop by themselves.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 1:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

Hi Carolyn.

Check the out box. It will probably have an unsent message
in it. Delete that and all should be well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: January 5, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I
accidentally put @gmail.net. Right away, once I realized
that, after sending her an email or two, I deleted the net
and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem, so I
deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the
correct Gmail address; still, the problem continues. I
checked my Address Book, as well as Contact List, and the
proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the messages
about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this
problem, please? I told her I was going to ask you all to
see if anyone had any ideas for solution to this problem.


Re: Problem with email delivery.

Carolyn Arnold
 

This has been going on for a year or so. I send her several
a week, and they just keep coming. As far as we can figure,
she eventually get them all or most of them anyway. I just
don't know what to do to get that net out of my computer.
I've tried typing it in, regardless of the address coming
up, which says dot com, when it does.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

I really doubt it. A delivery failure message would result
from a delivery failure, not from an unsent message. An
unsent message has never been attempted to be delivered.

How long and how often do you receive the undelivery
message? When mail can't be delivered, you may receive a
number of failure messages over a period of many days. the
messages may say something like this was the third delivery
attempt, we shall continue to try two more times. Your
message may not have said that but at this point, wait to
see if the messages stop.
They should stop by themselves.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 1:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

Hi Carolyn.

Check the out box. It will probably have an unsent message
in it. Delete that and all should be well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: January 5, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I
accidentally put @gmail.net. Right away, once I realized
that, after sending her an email or two, I deleted the net
and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem, so I
deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the
correct Gmail address; still, the problem continues. I
checked my Address Book, as well as Contact List, and the
proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the messages
about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this
problem, please? I told her I was going to ask you all to
see if anyone had any ideas for solution to this problem.


Re: Problem with email delivery.

Gene
 

I really doubt it. A delivery failure message would result from a delivery failure, not from an unsent message. An unsent message has never been attempted to be delivered.

How long and how often do you receive the undelivery message? When mail can't be delivered, you may receive a number of failure messages over a period of many days. the messages may say something like this was the third delivery attempt, we shall continue to try two more times. Your message may not have said that but at this point, wait to see if the messages stop. They should stop by themselves.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 1:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

Hi Carolyn.

Check the out box. It will probably have an unsent message in it. Delete
that and all should be well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: January 5, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I accidentally put
@gmail.net. Right away, once I realized that, after sending her an email or
two, I deleted the net and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem,
so I deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the correct Gmail
address; still, the problem continues. I checked my Address Book, as well as
Contact List, and the proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the
messages about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this problem,
please? I told her I was going to ask you all to see if anyone had any ideas
for solution to this problem.


JAWS 2021.2012.48 January Update + What's New

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
Here's the Jaws2021 January update download link + what's new in the, JAWS 2021.2012.48, build.
 
32 & 64 bit download link:
 
 
What's new:
Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2012.48 (January 2021)
 
New Layered Keystrokes for Adjusting JAWS and System Volume
 
Many users working with conferencing applications like Zoom and Teams have raised the issue of JAWS volume blocking their ability to hear a meeting or
webinar while trying to navigate in other applications. To solve this issue, we have introduced a new feature that lets you easily adjust the volume of
JAWS independently from the volume in other applications, such as Zoom, Teams, Skype, YouTube, or other apps that play audio.
 
JAWS and Fusion now offer a set of layered keystrokes for quickly adjusting volume. To access this layer, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V. Next, press
J to control the volume of JAWS speech or S to control the main system volume. After pressing J or S, use the ARROW keys to raise or lower the volume in
small increments, or PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to raise or lower the volume in larger increments. Press ESC to exit the layer when finished. Volume changes
remain in effect until you later adjust them using the same commands.
 
Note: When adjusting volume with the ARROW keys or PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN, the lowest level that can be set is 10 percent.
 
New Voice Assistant Option for Selecting the Microphone
 
You now have the option to choose which microphone the Voice Assistant uses when listening for commands. By designating a different microphone for this
feature than what is being used for other applications such as Teams or Zoom, it allows you to mute those applications during meetings and still use the
Voice Assistant with JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You can find the Microphone input device combo box under the Voice Assistant group in Settings Center.
 
Support for Native Math Equations in Microsoft Word
 
JAWS and Fusion now supports reading math content in Word documents inserted through the Office ribbon without the need for additional extensions. While
you can still use the MathType extension from Design Science to create math content, you now have the option to also use the built-in math creation functionality
in Word. Whether math content was inserted in a document using the MathType extension or directly through the Insert tab of the ribbon, when you encounter
a math equation or formula, JAWS reads the problem and then says "Math Content." You can then press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS to open the JAWS
Math Viewer so you can study the equation in greater detail.
 
Once the Math Viewer is opened, you can navigate individual parts of an equation, such as variables, terms, coefficients, or exponents. As you navigate
to the various components, pressing DOWN ARROW lets you drill down into and navigate within that level of the equation using LEFT and RIGHT ARROW. Pressing
UP ARROW moves you back to the prior level. In addition, if you have a Braille display and JAWS is set to United States English or Unified English Braille
Grade 1 or Grade 2, math equations or formulas are displayed in Nemeth Braille. Pressing ESC closes the Math Viewer and return to the document.
 
Other Changes
list of 16 items
• To accommodate the new Volume layer keystrokes, the layered command to access the Braille and Text Viewer layer is now INSERT+SPACEBAR, B.
• When using the Convenient OCR feature to recognize the current control, screen, or window, you now have the option to use the Microsoft OCR engine as
this may provide better OCR results for onscreen images than OmniPage, which is the default. For example, if you press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by W to
recognize the graphical window in an application and you find the results less than satisfactory, open Settings Center, select the Use Microsoft OCR For
Screen Recognitions check box, and then try the OCR again.
• You can now have both the Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards and Lower audio volume of programs while JAWS speaks
options enabled at the same time in Settings Center. Previously, these two features could not be used together.
• When using the mouse to select text in Outlook messages, resolved a long standing issue where pressing CTRL+C was not copying the selected text to the
Clipboard as expected. This only worked if text was selected using the keyboard.
• Resolved issues where JAWS and Fusion were not reading as expected when tabbing through links in Outlook messages.
• In response to customer feedback, improved the description of the Speak Window Titles for Read-Only Messages Automatically Quick Settings option.
• JAWS no longer says "no selection" while navigating through slides while editing a PowerPoint presentation.
• In Excel, you can now select a range of cells on the current worksheet similar to how you select a block of text using a PlaceMarker in Word. To do this
in Excel, press INSERT+WINDOWS+K to set a cell marker on the cell where you want to begin the selection, move to another location on the same worksheet,
and then press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M to select the cells between the mark and the current location.
• Resolved an issue where the Windows 10 Mail app would close unexpectedly when replying to a forwarded message and you navigate the message contents using
JAWS.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not always correctly reading content inside of an HTML span tag in some situations.
• JAWS now continuously announces autocomplete information in the web browser address bar as you type.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not reading properly in the edit window of the TextPad application on certain systems with higher DPI display
settings.
• Addressed an issue with Libre Office Writer where JAWS focus was not in the document when the application was first opened.
• Added an updated 64-bit braille display driver from Handy Tech and also added a new driver from Eurobraille for their Esys and Iris braille displays.
• Resolved an intermittent issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close when attempting to connect to a braille display over Bluetooth.
• Improved the user experience when using JAWS with the Visual Studio Code application. This includes turning off the Virtual PC Cursor by default, eliminating
the announcement of ARIA regions, and removing the announcement of a long URL when the program is launched.
list end

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Problem with email delivery.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Chris, I stopped everything, went to Outbox - zero messages,
unfortunately.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

Hi Carolyn.

Check the out box. It will probably have an unsent message
in it. Delete that and all should be well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: January 5, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I
accidentally put @gmail.net. Right away, once I realized
that, after sending her an email or two, I deleted the net
and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem, so I
deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the
correct Gmail address; still, the problem continues. I
checked my Address Book, as well as Contact List, and the
proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the messages
about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this
problem, please? I told her I was going to ask you all to
see if anyone had any ideas for solution to this problem.


Re: Problem with email delivery.

chris judge
 

Hi Carolyn.

Check the out box. It will probably have an unsent message in it. Delete
that and all should be well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: January 5, 2021 3:14 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem with email delivery.

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I accidentally put
@gmail.net. Right away, once I realized that, after sending her an email or
two, I deleted the net and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem,
so I deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the correct Gmail
address; still, the problem continues. I checked my Address Book, as well as
Contact List, and the proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the
messages about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this problem,
please? I told her I was going to ask you all to see if anyone had any ideas
for solution to this problem.


Problem with email delivery.

Carolyn Arnold
 

My friend got a new email account. When I first entered, I
accidentally put @gmail.net. Right away, once I realized
that, after sending her an email or two, I deleted the net
and entered com. Still, I got the delivery problem, so I
deleted her from my Contact completely. I reentered the
correct Gmail address; still, the problem continues. I
checked my Address Book, as well as Contact List, and the
proper address is there. Yet, I continue to get the messages
about delivery to gmail.net. What can I do to remedy this
problem, please? I told her I was going to ask you all to
see if anyone had any ideas for solution to this problem.


Re: Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip Phone

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

I have my home phone with AT and T With VOIP, and my phones are
connected to my modem, which is connected to a copper line into my house.
And when power is off these phones will not work. However I have an analog
phone that will work plugged into my phone outlet that will work when the
power is off. I don't know how common this setup is with other A T and T
customers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone


You may not be able to get copper wire land line service, I don't know. You
can still use a landline phone with VOIP voice over Internet protocol
service offered by whatever company you use for Internet service. It works
with your modem and will stop working if your power fails and when your
backup battery for your modem or router stops working.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Wow! No more phone service? I didn't know they were doing that. I have my
house phone through the cable company. I've had that since 2004. I don't
know how that would work with you having two cell phones. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 7:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Pam,
I've been wanting a second phone in my house just in case something was to
happen to my iPhone, and where I am I've been told by ATT they have no more
land line service, so I've been thinking I just might get an old flip phone
just to keep in my house for emergency purposes. I do sometimes miss my
flip phone though. I use my phone for so many different reasons, that I
don't even think of it as an iPhone anymore like I used to when I first
bought it, but I couldn't do without it either.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

I just have a flip phone. I don't even use all the stuff on that. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 5:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Hi Sugar, Pam, Carolyn,
Oh sure I love my iPhone too, but only when it works! Smile! Although,
there are still times when I would just like to make a phonecall, and not
have to bother listening to Siri or Voiceover, as sometimes it just talks
way too much. I know the ways to stop them from talking, but that is what I
get tired of. So I guess, one could say I have a love-hate relationship
with my iPhone, meaning I love it when it works, and I hate it when it doesn’t!
I do miss my old flip phone, but I doubt very much if I could ever get used
to another flip phone though again.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sugar Lopez
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Hat's what I use to say and now, I love my Iphone
sugar
“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”
- - Winnie the Pooh

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:
https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

-Sugar, ❤😘

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 10:11 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

I can't see myself using an iPhone at all. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

You know, Janet, I do not miss my old flip phones, which, I guess could be
why I replaced them. They never had enough battery life and tended to be
clumsy, compared to the iPhone, once I really started to use it.

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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 9:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Hi All,
Wow, talking about a flip phone makes me smile! I had a flip phone for so
long until I bought my iPhone. I have to admit, I do sometimes really just
miss my old flip phones though.

Janet

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 7:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

Read Out is pretty good, especially with texsting. I had an LG Revere that
had it. I am glad to hear that Net Ten now has an accessible flip phone to
offer at a good price. I was very happy with Net Ten, when I had them.

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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Report on the accesibility of the LG Clasic 120 Flip
Phone

I wanted to report on the accessibility of the LG. Classic flip phone from
Net10. I was pleasantly surprised on how well read out works.(read out is
the screen reader). You will need sighted help to turn on read out in the
Initial setup. After that you can read all menus, settings contact, messages
and etc. Manual is not much help with explaining the accessible settings.
Haven't tested Internet browser or
typing. But this might be a good phone for some people who
don't need a full smart phone. It can be purchased for $39 or less if you
buy a plan with the phone.




















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Re: Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Pamela Dominguez
 

Yeah, I hear where you're coming from. It's almost like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Pam.

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From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 10:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

Hi Gene,
I know the insurances are expensive, but when I don't buy the insurance, something goes wrong, and now if I do buy the insurance, everything is fine. I really just wonder sometimes if these stores do something to the product if a person doesn't buy insurance. I know it sounds crazy, but I really just wonder sometimes.
Janet

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.

I never buy extended warranties on computers. In this case, the price you
are paying is more than half the price of a new computer and, while
something may happen, it probably won't.

Gene
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From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 9:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.



Juan,

Best Buy did offer me a three year accidental warranty, and I did buy it,
but it cost me $245. If I wanted total Geek insurance, that would have cost
another $145, and that was only for one year, so if I wanted the total
insurance next year, I would have to pay another $145. All this insurance
could cost more than the Laptop! Smile! On both of those Laptops did have
SSD, as I do like those on my machines.





Janet



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Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 8:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





I don’t know the in and outs of best buys policies Unfortunately but they do
offer extended warranty on open box items so that might be something to
consider. The amount you will save from buying an open item could be used to
buy the extended warranty.



I understand all about not needing the latest and greatest. I just went over
to my brothers house and installed an SSD to his 2005 dell xps M1330 dual
core laptop. He was ready to throw it out cause it was very slow and he only
needs it to watch movies. Putting that SSD gave it another life line with a
clean of windows 10.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,



If it is an “open box” item at bestbuy, would the usual 1 year warranty
apply?



I purchased a used hp desktop from amazon about 18 months ago.

It has a 6th gen I 5 processor with 8 gig of ddr4 ram.



It’s a little slow decompressing large, 30 gig files, and converting books
from text to speech, but that’s fine.



I’m not trying to prevent a cataclysm with it.

If I get 2 or 3 years use out of it, that’s fine.

99 per cent of us do not need the latest and the greatest.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan
Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: January 4, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





The one that I currently have is the Lenovo legion but again it’s a gaming
computer so might be over kill for what you are looking for. Best buy has
been doing that more recently, selling open box items. They are not bad it
might just be some one opened it didn’t like it and returned it. I am sure
they have inspected it to make sure everything is like new but you can
always tell them that you want a brand new one. That sales person doesn’t
sound like a good one if he didn’t tell you what you were buying. I got one
of those when I went in so I went to a different best buy and got a better
sales person. I almost bought an Asus gaming computer because of the
keyboard layout and everything being so nicely spaced out but it did not
have a number pad. It really depends on how much you are looking to spend,
if you want to save some money you can get an i5 9th generation processer to
save some money and you would not notice the difference in speed with the 10
generation. I would safely go back as far as a 6 generation i5 processer for
what you are looking to do.



Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi Juan,

I did go in to the Best Buy store, and I felt the keys on the Asus, and I
did like that as it also had a NumPad. I just didn’t know it was what Best
Buy calls out of the box, as the salesmen never told me that. I also seen a
HP Laptop I liked, and I also seen a Dell Laptop I liked, but I now don’t
know if all those Laptops are out of the box, meaning someone could have
brought it back to the store as a trade in after they might have had it for
several months or even a year. Although, as I am searching online, I have
noticed the Asus Laptops now have the Intell processor instead of the AMD
Risen like the one I bought. So, I don’t really know what all that means.
Can you tell me what kind of keyboard you have with those keys, as that
sounds like something I would like as well, or is it the Lenovo one you
currently have? I had a Lenovo a few weeks ago, and the problem I had with
the keys on the keyboard, was the keys would stick down in the board when I
pressed them. The keys were to large for my fingers, and they were to many
different shapes, meaning some of them were long, some of them were short.



Thank you for all this.

Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Juan Gonzalez via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





A great method of finding the right laptop for you is to go into a computer
shop and have some hands on with the laptop. I personally do not like the
crammed keyboards so I went in and found one that has great spacing. I also
wanted one with a number pad and this one had it. I also would stay with any
of the intel core I5 computers or AMD Ryzen 5 and up for processors. 8 GB
Ram and SSD of 250 GB or higher.

Lenovo is my computer manufacture of choice right now but that doesn’t mean
there isn’t other good computers in the dell, hp, lineups.

Juan Gonzalez

IT – DAX Analyst/IT Support Technician | Information Technology

Phone: 312 .666.1331 Ext. 3704

www.chicagolighthouse.org

















From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi,

Thank you for this. I won’t be doing any gaming or video though. I want a
Laptop basically for using email, basic editing, etc. So I know what I
want, but trying to find it is another thing. LOL!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi these are like model names, think pad and ideapad from Linovo as far as I
know and vivobook from Asus.

They are like series, and you can find plenty of models in that series, just
as for example, iPad pro 2018, 2020 etc.

Naturally 2020 model will have more updated specs such as processor or ram
etc.

Think pad for example 14inch laptop with intel processer and several models
coming either i5 or i7 and all of them U which means low energy consumption.

So all of them laptop just different companies and different models.

You have others similar to these, dell xps, hp specter etc.

To know which one you should pick, first decide for what you are getting the
device for, if heavy gaming or video editing etc, these are not so good, but
for productivity and portability, these are perfect.

And laptops which are for gaming and more than 14-15 inch will be not so
great with portability hence they will be quite heavy.



Good luck.



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From: Janet
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Laptops vs Computer laptops Question Please.





Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a Laptop ThinkPad or
an IdeaPad or a Vivobook Laptop, as opposed to a computer Laptop? I am doing
some searching on line about the Laptop Vivobook I recently bought, as it is
showing this is not a new Laptop, and I didn't know that as the salesmen at
Best Buy didn't tell me that. So I am seeing sales for computer Laptops and
ThinkPad Laptops, IdeaPad Laptops, Vivobook Laptops, but then I see
different prices for computer Laptops.



Thank you all for any help in this.



Janet

Janet oppsode



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