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Re: I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

Jim Rawls
 

Thanks Gene.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to
learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

I don't know how you use your computer. A lot of what you do will be the
same because a lot of what you do is using program and Windows commands.
Some commands, such as read title bar, are the same. Web page navigation
commands are just about identical.

There is a page for those beginning to use NVDA who now use JAWS.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA
There is training material available from NVDA that you can pay for. There
is other material done by users. I don't follow that subject enough to
discuss it much. I suspect, though I don't know this, that some training
material is discussed on the transition page I'm sending the link for.
Whatever the case, if you do a Google search for NVDA training material, you

will find resources.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to
learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim


Re: Google device or Alexa device?

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

while the info below is true for persons in the US and canada, in the caribbean for example trinidad, where i live, playing music from you tube is not free, you have to pay for a subscription for you tube to use with a google home

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?


You can listen to music free with the Google assistant. It plays music on Youtube. I don't know if it works with other music services.

I also don't know if The Echo can play music on Youtube.

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?



Well I will start with google. Pros, she spells slower than alexa with pauses. She plays podcast better too my opinion. She handles smart plugs better that are not amazon based like the smart life and wemo. She has more information on certain subjects. She can have several voices not just one voice. Her language data base is more extensive. Cons, it is hard to pare smart items with google and she has to apps to control the speaker instead of just one like alexa. She does not have as many apps that work or connect with the speaker. You cant drop in on other speakers.

Alexa, pros, you have a wide range of connected devices to connect with on the speaker. She always has more skills to use; you can change her wake word; you can drop in to different rooms and locations with your contacts; you can listen to music for free with amazon if you have prime; you can order using the speaker or put something in the cart; if you have the show, you can have face to face conversations across the country. Cons, alexa has not have the spelling feature to spell slow if you are trying to do dictation; her data base for information is not as good; amazon has some issues with their smart plugs that do not always work wich means your plugs do not work especially with their outages; not all their stuff is fullally accessible for example, you cant turn on the feature that allows you to tell the speaker to delete everything that you said as the app does not allow vo users to access that on the app; you have to have prime to make the nost out of the speaker.

Both speakers will: tell the time and temp, give directions, tell jokes; give sports scores; play games; tell stories; give the news. OH, forgot , it easyer to make routines with alexa as you only have one app to deal with while google makes you use 2 apps.

This is just off the top of my head.

Cheers Heather





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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?





Heather, what are the pros and cons of Alexa and Google?



-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 11:22 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?



I personally have both speakers. I have them in my room and in the office and my mom has both in her room. They both have qualities to like and dislike. It is good have both say if you are trying to get your smart plugs to work, some times google does a better job than alexa. Sometimes if you want music, alexa is better at that than google. Find that google does a better job of spelling words than alexa, she actually pauses between letters alexa does not always do this. So it is good to have both if you can. Cheers Heather







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From: Ashley Breger via groups.io <mailto:ashbreger=yahoo.com@groups.io>

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:21 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?







All right chat with you then.



Ashley











On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Vicky Vaughan <vrvaughan63@gmail.com> wrote:











Thanks, so much and I will contact you on Saturday!







Sincerely, Vicky V



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashley Breger via groups.io

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:25 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?







Hi Vicki,



I would be more than happy to assist you with connecting your email to either of these devices. I am most familiar with the Amazon Alexa but I know Google home will also read your emails. If you want email me back privately and I can give you my contact information. I mostly assist people over the phone.







Ashley













On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:21 PM, Vicky Vaughan <vrvaughan63@gmail.com <mailto:vrvaughan63@gmail.com> > wrote:







Hi List, Is there a way to get either of these devices to work with email messages? That is to: read them, respond to them, delete them or store them in a folder?







Many thanks for any help!







Sincerely, Vicky V







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Re: longevity of braille printers?

Monte Single
 

Hi,

Glad to hear your new buddy is working well for you.

What is the print speed?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: January 17, 2021 9:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] longevity of braille printers?

 

I payed $1495 for my braille buddy embosser from www.irie-at.com 


Re: accessible budget-friendly color laser printers

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks, that works for me. Do you have a URL of the specific one your
refering to?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 1/17/21, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
You can get a Brothers color printer for under $100.00.
They work very well.



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:56 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] accessible budget-friendly color laser printers

Hello,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an accessible color laserjet
printer that is budget friendly?

Thanks.
Dave.












Re: accessible budget-friendly color laser printers

Angelo Sonnesso
 

You can get a Brothers color printer for under $100.00.
They work very well.



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:56 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] accessible budget-friendly color laser printers

Hello,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an accessible color laserjet
printer that is budget friendly?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: longevity of braille printers?

Josh Kennedy
 

Oh just to let you all know, yesterday I got a clipart image of mickey mouse from google images, opened it in microsoft paint in windows10 which is now very accessible even if you are totally blind and it works with screen readers, printed it to the braille buddy and now I have a tactile graphic of mickey mouse on an 8.5x11 inch thermoform sheet. 


Re: longevity of braille printers?

Josh Kennedy
 

the braille buddy that I have is about the size of an hp inkjet printer or one of those small cannon inkjet printers. It is sitting on a coffee table beside my laptop, on its own coffee table. I have a small work area. Oh and did I mention this embosser hardly vibrates the table at all even during heavy embossing... It's about 10 to 11 pounds in weight. So if I want to I can easily move it off that table after unplugging it and put something else there such as my electric perkins brailler. Only thing I do not like is the USB connection port is underneath the tractor feed mechanism. Unless I get a bigger work area I think I will always be using cut sheet paper with this braille printer. That is fine though, I printed several pages with it and unlike index embossers, I have had absolutely no paper jams yet! I love this little printer! I think there are ways, though, to reduce its cost such as reduce speed by 25 percent down to 18cps, get rid of tractor feed option, and make TSS rtiger software suite an additional optional purchase rather than including it. After all, people can use braille blaster for basic printing and its a smart printer so you can set legacy printing options for old devices such as brailleNotes and duxbury and braille blaster and print from those devices. It also does microbraille, normal, and jumbo braille with tactile graphics up to 20 dots per inch with higher dots representing darker colors and lighter lower dots representing lighter colors if you wish. You can also print tactile graphics directly from microsoft paint or ms-word. I like how it draws a text box as a tactile graphic and wraps the text that is outside or around the box, left and around the bottom of the box drawn as a tactile graphic. Back to lower cost embossers, I hope someday irie-at or some other company builds and sells viewPlus tiger software suite compatible braillerap embossers from www.braillerap.com   ... 


accessible budget-friendly color laser printers

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an accessible color laserjet
printer that is budget friendly?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: longevity of braille printers?

Josh Kennedy
 

the irie-at and viewPlus embossers such as the braille buddy are a little louder than a perkins brailler, not much, just a little louder. The braille buddy at least has plastic pieces that just snap together. The single sheet or cut sheet feeder tray snaps into place using two pegs on the sides of the printer. There is another small plastic tray that snaps into place below that... and the whole top cover in front of the 4 button control panel also comes off and you can get to the carriage mechanism and solenoids and solenoid housings to make it easier to clean the printer and clear any paper jams. I have not used it with tractor feed paper as I do not have the room. So far I just used it with single sheets of 8.5x11 inch thermoform plastics and braille paper. It will also feed through smaller items like 3x5 index cards. I did ask irie-at to consider making a less expensive embosser. If they make tiger software suite an optional purchase, this would bring the price from $1495 united states dollars down to $1295. And if they reduce the speed by 25 percent, from 25 characters per second down to 18 to 20 characters per second and get rid of the tractor feed option, making it a cut-sheet-only printer, they may be able to get the price down to $1195 or maybe a bit less. 
One more thing. If you guys want to build your own high quality embosser and start selling it, you can do so! Just go to www.braillerap.com ... and follow directions there. Supposedly that braillerap embosser is a cut-sheet printer that will also emboss soft aluminums. It does text and graphics. 

Josh


Re: longevity of braille printers?

Josh Kennedy
 

I payed $1495 for my braille buddy embosser from www.irie-at.com 


Re: Kindle for pc does not open a book

Bharat
 

if you have the latest version of Kindle with the latest versions of
JAWS even the normal version of kindle is now usable with JAWS & can
read out everything on screen.

On 1/16/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are saying that Kindle behaved as you described, you restored the
machine, and that didn't solve the probem that's different than the wording

of your first message. Your first message made it sound as though you
restored the machine and then Kindle started not working correctly. That is

an important difference. I don't have an opinion on whether you should or
shouldn't have tried a system restore. But the [possible solutions
available are different to correct the Kindle problem. Originally, I had
thought that undoing the restore might have solved the problem. Now that I

know that the problem started before you restored the machine, I know that
undoing the restore won't help. The only solution I can suggest is to try
reinstalling Kindle but others will have to discuss where to get the proper

version.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 4:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Kindle for pc does not open a book

Hello Gene
Maybe out of stupidity but I restored the machine because all of a sudden
Kindle behaved as I described. My problem is now that I do not have the
Kindle with accessibility version because I installed a SSD drive a few
months ago and I did not keep a backup. I seem not to be able to find that
Kindle version, so is the usual Kindle program OK for us?
Regards
Fanus


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Kindle for pc does not open a book

You may have to reinstal it. I don't know why you restored your machine
but

undoing the restore may solve the problem as well but then you would lose
the point of the restoration. As to which, if either, you should try first
with more chance of success, I don't know. If you want to keep the
benefits

of the restore operation, try installing the program again.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Kindle for pc does not open a book

Hello list
I had to restore my pc to a previous restore point and now Kindle does not
open books. When I press enter on the name or when I use the open item in
the file menu Kindle closes and returns me to the desktop. Is there a
solution or does Kindle not run on Windows 10 anymore?
Regards
Fanus





















Re: I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

Steve Matzura
 

No, it's not hard to learn. Yes, there are tutorials made by Joseph Lee himself. I highly recommend this course, available for $52 U.S., all of which goes to support the very worthwhile NVDA project and will teach you everything you need to know about using NVDA, and then some.



Re: my computer will not update, causing all kinds of problems.

Steve Matzura
 

I think his use of the word abacus was to indicate that he perceives it to be an outdated dinosaur. What I'd recommend is to back up the system drive and try a clean install of 20H2. If that doesn't work, just restore the old one and think of something else to try.


On 1/16/2021 3:01 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Jim, can you provide us with more information about your **** computer?  I am not familiar with the Abacus brand.  Is your computer a laptop or desktop?  How much RAM and what kind of processor does it have?  When and where did you buy it, and which version of Windows 10 was originally installed on it when you bought it? Have you been able to install any cumulative or feature updates on it since then? And is Windows Security being updated with the latest database definitions?  Maybe someone on this list can guide you in the right direction if you give us more information.


Gerald


 

On 1/16/2021 2:29 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,For several months, I have tried to get my computer to update from windows 1909 to the current version. Microsoft has tried several times to update it, but they can’t do it. They put a repair tool in an it did no good. They tried installing the current version but that failed as well. So, I have a computer that will not install any updates, security or otherwise. Jaws will not update as well. I am authorized to version 2020, but I can only go to 2018. I am out of warrantee on this abacus computer. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can fixthuis**** computer? Smile. Jim.


Re: I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard tolearn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

Gene
 

Your comparison may be correct when comparing the JAWS cursor to the screen review function in NVDA. I haven't used JAWS for years. But there is another way to review content, object navigation. I'm not sure where you can find the best material to learn it. To understand it, I think a lot of people need some sort of good tutorial. It may make up for all or most of the deficiency that may exist in screen review.

Also, depending on how people use their computers, you may or may not benefit from knowing object navigation.

And there is a third way of reviewing the screen, or to be accurate, reviewing an object whichisn't the same thing but you may find it similar to reviewing the screen in some or many instances. Using the desktop keyboard layout, which is the default, moving with the numpad is as follows:
with the numlock off, 7, 8, ande 9, do the following, ;previous line, current line, next line.
4, 5, 6, previous word, current word, next word.
1, 2, 3, previous carachter, current carachter, next carachter.

As I said, I don't have Windows 10, but this method may allow some of the review that may no longer be available in screen review.

But as I said, a lot of what anyone does with a computer involves Windows and program commands.

Gene

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard tolearn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim



The only thing I do not like for NVDA is their OCR is not that good. So it is better if one uses jaws. Also, the review cursor could be better so I use jaws if I need to use jaws to pc cursor for an action. You do not use insert keys like one does with jaws if your using the mom pad. So say you want to read a file from where you left off, you would do insert down arrow instead of insert 2 like one does with jaws. You will be using the insert keys with the arrows. If you want to see which application is loaded with insert q, you will be telling NVDA to unload the program. So it is little differences. So after a few days it will not be so trying. For some reason, NVDA has issues with imbedded links an e-mails and it will not click on them so I usually select the link and run the dialogue and paste the link.If you want to start using NVDA from jaws, try using both on your pc and start out with certain tasks like reading a book or checking e-mail. When you get used to those tasks, try using it online and navigate web sites. There really does not seem to have much differences but, that is where I found the review cursor was lacking unlike the jaws to pc cursor and discovered their OCR had some issues unlike jaws OCR. Cheers Heather



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From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard tolearn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim





I don't know how you use your computer. A lot of what you do will be the

same because a lot of what you do is using program and Windows commands.

Some commands, such as read title bar, are the same. Web page navigation

commands are just about identical.



There is a page for those beginning to use NVDA who now use JAWS.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

There is training material available from NVDA that you can pay for. There

is other material done by users. I don't follow that subject enough to

discuss it much. I suspect, though I don't know this, that some training

material is discussed on the transition page I'm sending the link for.

Whatever the case, if you do a Google search for NVDA training material, you

will find resources.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:33 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to

learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim


Re: my computer will not update, causing all kinds of problems.

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Did you try to use the Windows Upgrade assistant?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my computer will not update, causing all kinds of problems.

Hi Jim.  Much as I hate to recommend a clean install, I think that this would be an appropriate action in your case.  I think your windows installation currently has some incurable issues that only a clean install can resolve.  Mind you, this is what I hope to be the case though because problems like this may also be caused by hardware issues.  But take the clean install option first and see how it will help.  Sorry to be a bearer of such bad news.  Cheers!

On 17/1/2021 3:29 am, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,For several months, I have tried to get my computer to update from windows 1909 to the current version. Microsoft has tried several times to update it, but they can’t do it. They put a repair tool in an it did no good. They tried installing the current version but that failed as well. So, I have a computer that will not install any updates, security or otherwise. Jaws will not update as well. I am authorized to version 2020, but I can only go to 2018. I am out of warrantee on this abacus computer. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can fixthuis**** computer? Smile. Jim.


Re: I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard tolearn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

heather albright
 

The only thing I do not like for NVDA is their OCR is not that good. So it is better if one uses jaws. Also, the review cursor could be better so I use jaws if I need to use jaws to pc cursor for an action. You do not use insert keys like one does with jaws if your using the mom pad. So say you want to read a file from where you left off, you would do insert down arrow instead of insert 2 like one does with jaws. You will be using the insert keys with the arrows. If you want to see which application is loaded with insert q, you will be telling NVDA to unload the program. So it is little differences. So after a few days it will not be so trying. For some reason, NVDA has issues with imbedded  links an e-mails and it will not click on them so I usually select the link and run the dialogue and paste the link.If you want to start using NVDA from jaws, try using both on your pc and start out with certain tasks like reading a book or checking e-mail. When you get used to those tasks, try using it online and navigate web sites. There really does not seem to have much differences but, that is where I found the review cursor was lacking unlike the jaws to pc cursor and discovered their OCR had some issues unlike jaws OCR. Cheers Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard tolearn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

 

I don't know how you use your computer.  A lot of what you do will be the

same because a lot of what you do is using program and Windows commands.

Some commands, such as read title bar, are the same.  Web page navigation

commands are just about identical.

 

There is a page for those beginning to use NVDA who now use JAWS.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

There is training material available from NVDA that you can pay for.  There

is other material done by users.  I don't follow that subject enough to

discuss it much.  I suspect, though I don't know this, that some training

material is discussed on the transition page I'm sending the link for.

Whatever the case, if you do a Google search for NVDA training material, you

will find resources.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Jim Rawls

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:33 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to

learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: my computer will not update, causing all kinds of problems.

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi Jim.  Much as I hate to recommend a clean install, I think that this would be an appropriate action in your case.  I think your windows installation currently has some incurable issues that only a clean install can resolve.  Mind you, this is what I hope to be the case though because problems like this may also be caused by hardware issues.  But take the clean install option first and see how it will help.  Sorry to be a bearer of such bad news.  Cheers!

On 17/1/2021 3:29 am, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,For several months, I have tried to get my computer to update from windows 1909 to the current version. Microsoft has tried several times to update it, but they can’t do it. They put a repair tool in an it did no good. They tried installing the current version but that failed as well. So, I have a computer that will not install any updates, security or otherwise. Jaws will not update as well. I am authorized to version 2020, but I can only go to 2018. I am out of warrantee on this abacus computer. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can fixthuis**** computer? Smile. Jim.


Re: longevity of braille printers?

DAVID GLOBE
 

I love my braille printer, and I think the reason I like it so much, is that I only use it when I need to have items with me for a meeting.  Yes, they are noizy, and yes they can create dust, but when you need to print something for yourself or other blind people, it's nice to have the abillity to do so.

David

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: January 16, 2021 4:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] longevity of braille printers?

 

Hi.  Just as a point of interest, how do you brave gals and guys live with braille embossers in your homes?  They are noisy beasts you know, and i don't think I can take the noise levels when they are embossing braille in my sitting room.  Perhaps the newer embossers are quieter, but oh my sainted aunt! those oldies do certain cause a racket.  Cheers!

On 17/1/2021 1:56 am, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Josh and other interested persons,

 

My Juliet Classic purchased in 1994 is still going strong.  The funny thing is that I purchased it used for $1500 1994 dollars.  It is so old that I have to use it with a USB to parallel adapter.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

 

On 1/16/2021 8:11 AM, Monte Single wrote:

That’s a pretty big question.

If the printer is being used for personal use, it could last for many many years.

As with all electronics,  keep it cool, dry and dust free.

I worked for a school board and one of it’s embossers, a  single sided versapoint, purchased in 1991  was still working in 2011 when I left that department.

It was a lightly used umbosser.

Others will have greater experience.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: January 16, 2021 9:32 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] longevity of braille printers?

 

Hi,

I just bought a new viewPlus compatible braille buddy embosser as you may know… My question is: how many years can I expect it to last? And how do I set the correct paper size for embossing on those junkmail postcard-type flyers I get in the mail? Or will I need one of those plastic braille rulers from APH to measure paper sizes before embossing?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Google device or Alexa device?

Monte Single
 

I do not know what the free streaming service is from Alexa, but the "tune in"service available on my google home mini has tens of thousands of radio stations, and more podcasts than I could count.
There are other paid services also.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: January 16, 2021 3:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?

You can listen to music free with the Google assistant. It plays music on Youtube. I don't know if it works with other music services.

I also don't know if The Echo can play music on Youtube.

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google device or Alexa device?



Well I will start with google. Pros, she spells slower than alexa with
pauses. She plays podcast better too my opinion. She handles smart plugs
better that are not amazon based like the smart life and wemo. She has more
information on certain subjects. She can have several voices not just one
voice. Her language data base is more extensive. Cons, it is hard to pare
smart items with google and she has to apps to control the speaker instead
of just one like alexa. She does not have as many apps that work or connect
with the speaker. You cant drop in on other speakers.

Alexa, pros, you have a wide range of connected devices to connect with on
the speaker. She always has more skills to use; you can change her wake
word; you can drop in to different rooms and locations with your contacts;
you can listen to music for free with amazon if you have prime; you can
order using the speaker or put something in the cart; if you have the show,
you can have face to face conversations across the country. Cons, alexa has
not have the spelling feature to spell slow if you are trying to do
dictation; her data base for information is not as good; amazon has some
issues with their smart plugs that do not always work wich means your plugs
do not work especially with their outages; not all their stuff is fullally
accessible for example, you cant turn on the feature that allows you to tell
the speaker to delete everything that you said as the app does not allow vo
users to access that on the app; you have to have prime to make the nost out
of the speaker.

Both speakers will: tell the time and temp, give directions, tell jokes;
give sports scores; play games; tell stories; give the news. OH, forgot , it
easyer to make routines with alexa as you only have one app to deal with
while google makes you use 2 apps.

This is just off the top of my head.

Cheers Heather





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From: Carolyn Arnold
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Heather, what are the pros and cons of Alexa and Google?



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I personally have both speakers. I have them in my room and in the office
and my mom has both in her room. They both have qualities to like and
dislike. It is good have both say if you are trying to get your smart plugs
to work, some times google does a better job than alexa. Sometimes if you
want music, alexa is better at that than google. Find that google does a
better job of spelling words than alexa, she actually pauses between letters
alexa does not always do this. So it is good to have both if you can.
Cheers Heather







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All right chat with you then.



Ashley











On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Vicky Vaughan
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Thanks, so much and I will contact you on Saturday!







Sincerely, Vicky V



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Hi Vicki,



I would be more than happy to assist you with connecting
your email to either of these devices. I am most familiar with the Amazon
Alexa but I know Google home will also read your emails. If you want email
me back privately and I can give you my contact information. I mostly assist
people over the phone.







Ashley













On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:21 PM, Vicky Vaughan
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Hi List, Is there a way to get either of
these devices to work with email messages? That is to: read them, respond
to them, delete them or store them in a folder?







Many thanks for any help!







Sincerely, Vicky V







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Re: I am trying NVDA for the first time. Is it hard to learn? and are there tutorials I can get? I am running windows ten. Jim

Gene
 

I don't know how you use your computer. A lot of what you do will be the same because a lot of what you do is using program and Windows commands. Some commands, such as read title bar, are the same. Web page navigation commands are just about identical.

There is a page for those beginning to use NVDA who now use JAWS.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA
There is training material available from NVDA that you can pay for. There is other material done by users. I don't follow that subject enough to discuss it much. I suspect, though I don't know this, that some training material is discussed on the transition page I'm sending the link for. Whatever the case, if you do a Google search for NVDA training material, you will find resources.

Gene

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