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Re: Persistent Jaws error

Gene
 

Please start completely new threads for new topics.  Even if you remove the subject line, there is code in the old message that causes it to be placed with the old messages in the archive.  Also, I suspect, though I don't know this, that it causes those who read mail by conversation to have the message incorrectly placed in the old thread as well. 
Gene

-----Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:22 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Persistent Jaws error

Good Sunday all,

 

Yesterday in the morning my Jaws that is the last UPDATE available on the Freedom Scientific page, started boring me with the error

unknown function call to:
inhjdialogerror
I was not able to figure out what was this error, so I repaired Jaws this morning.

However, the error still there.

I would like to know what can I do now since Jaws is becoming in unusable due to the number of times these errors appear on the browser. It happen in all browsers Edge, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Brave.

 

Thanks guys,

 

Pablo

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

 

I've only shared a folder once, but I don't recall anything else that needs to be done.  Is there any possibility that the other person has more than one e-mail address and that his account was set up with another one?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:48 AM

To: TechTalk

Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

 

Hi All,

 

Running the latest version of Dropbox and I'm having a problem with a shared folder.  I created a folder for myself and someone else in my Dropbox folder, opened the context menu and pressed enter on the, Share, option, entered his email address and sent him the invitation.  He received the invitation and accepted but, our shared folder isn't appearing in his Dropbox folder.

 

What am I doing wrong?!  Or, what else does the shareing person have to do differently?  Does the sharing person also have to create a folder of the same name in his folder?

 

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Persistent Jaws error

Pablo Morales
 

Good Sunday all,

 

Yesterday in the morning my Jaws that is the last UPDATE available on the Freedom Scientific page, started boring me with the error

unknown function call to:
inhjdialogerror
I was not able to figure out what was this error, so I repaired Jaws this morning.

However, the error still there.

I would like to know what can I do now since Jaws is becoming in unusable due to the number of times these errors appear on the browser. It happen in all browsers Edge, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Brave.

 

Thanks guys,

 

Pablo

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

 

I've only shared a folder once, but I don't recall anything else that needs to be done.  Is there any possibility that the other person has more than one e-mail address and that his account was set up with another one?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:48 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

 

Hi All,

 

Running the latest version of Dropbox and I'm having a problem with a shared folder.  I created a folder for myself and someone else in my Dropbox folder, opened the context menu and pressed enter on the, Share, option, entered his email address and sent him the invitation.  He received the invitation and accepted but, our shared folder isn't appearing in his Dropbox folder.

 

What am I doing wrong?!  Or, what else does the shareing person have to do differently?  Does the sharing person also have to create a folder of the same name in his folder?

 

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

Gene
 

I've only shared a folder once, but I don't recall anything else that needs to be done.  Is there any possibility that the other person has more than one e-mail address and that his account was set up with another one?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:48 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

Hi All,
 
Running the latest version of Dropbox and I'm having a problem with a shared folder.  I created a folder for myself and someone else in my Dropbox folder, opened the context menu and pressed enter on the, Share, option, entered his email address and sent him the invitation.  He received the invitation and accepted but, our shared folder isn't appearing in his Dropbox folder.
 
What am I doing wrong?!  Or, what else does the shareing person have to do differently?  Does the sharing person also have to create a folder of the same name in his folder?
 
All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Dropbox and Sharing a Folder

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Running the latest version of Dropbox and I'm having a problem with a shared folder.  I created a folder for myself and someone else in my Dropbox folder, opened the context menu and pressed enter on the, Share, option, entered his email address and sent him the invitation.  He received the invitation and accepted but, our shared folder isn't appearing in his Dropbox folder.
 
What am I doing wrong?!  Or, what else does the shareing person have to do differently?  Does the sharing person also have to create a folder of the same name in his folder?
 
All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


testin, please ignore

Loy
 

 


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene
 

Does Outlook have a folder of its own where it displays all mail? I wonder if you are actually in some sort of such mailbox aggregator that, confusingly, has the same name as the GMail all mail folder.

I wonder if Outlook doesn't display the All Mail folder from GMail, at least not with that name because it would result in two folders with the same name. I have no idea, but its interesting to speculate about.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 6:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

It is the all mail folder in the Gmail account. Agreed, my thinking is only Gmail history should be there. No big deal, just wondering.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't know. If it is the all mail folder that is in your GMail account, mail from other accounts shouldn't be there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

Thanks.
Interesting, I looked in the all mail folder and it includes emails way back to 2002 way before I had a Gmail account. It has messages from an old road runner account. How in the world id all this info get in there?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't have any opinion. I don't empty them. If you run out of room in your GMail storage, messages will automatically be deleted to make way for new ones. At least I believe that is what I read. If you have concerns about having messages sitting there for years where someone such as a hacker might see them, you may want to remove them but I'm not concerned about that possibility. My mail is almost all e-mail list mail. I doubt hackers are interested in going through messages anyway. They try to hack accounts to send spam messages to people using your account such as to people in your addressbook, but they could do that anyway even if you remove messages, if you have an online addressbook.

I'm not sure that deleting messages from your e-mail program would delete them from the actual site. Others may know about that.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

Gene,

It is the all mail folder in the Gmail account. Agreed, my thinking is only Gmail history should be there. No big deal, just wondering.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't know. If it is the all mail folder that is in your GMail account, mail from other accounts shouldn't be there.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

Thanks.
Interesting, I looked in the all mail folder and it includes emails way back to 2002 way before I had a Gmail account. It has messages from an old road runner account. How in the world id all this info get in there?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't have any opinion. I don't empty them. If you run out of room in your GMail storage, messages will automatically be deleted to make way for new ones. At least I believe that is what I read. If you have concerns about having messages sitting there for years where someone such as a hacker might see them, you may want to remove them but I'm not concerned about that possibility. My mail is almost all e-mail list mail. I doubt hackers are interested in going through messages anyway. They try to hack accounts to send spam messages to people using your account such as to people in your addressbook, but they could do that anyway even if you remove messages, if you have an online addressbook.

I'm not sure that deleting messages from your e-mail program would delete them from the actual site. Others may know about that.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

abdulah aga
 

gene yes it will delete them from the actual site for me do that ald the time. abdulah


Opinions on a blind friendly pod catcher?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, If you work with a pod catcher, would you share what it is and what about it you like?

 

I am using a Windows 10 computer with Jaws 2021.

 

Thanks very much for sharing any tips!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


I'm not sure about the All Mail folder but, the Trash folder flushes itself once a month.  I haven't been able to determine what day of the month but, it definitly empties it once a month.  When I checked my All Mail folder earlier today, oddly enough it had the same amount of emails as the Trash folder.  When I deleted the contents of the All Mail folder it didn't do anything to the count of emails in the Trash folder.  This is the first time I've ever checked the All Mail folder and I don't know how many years I've had this Gmail account but, at least 8 for this particular account.  The amount of emails in each of the All Mail & Trash folders was 149, so I emttied both folders and out of curiosity I'm going to take a peek at them more often than I normally would.  I do not have an Important folder.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

if you don't empty it occasionally, it can fill with thousands of emails.
Glad that the folder did populate for you .
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and
an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically
once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future
use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP.  I got the acronym confused.  MSAPI is something like
Microsoft application program interface.  I almost never think about that
term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of  MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all
mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on
the site.  Or I should say, there should be one.  I don't know why it isn't
being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI.  That may provide the
answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email
folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website.  If he's
talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood
him.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things?  I believe the original question
is for using an e-mail program.  You appear to be commenting on using the
web site itself.  And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use
simple HTML on the web site.  I haven't used the web site much so I'm not
saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I
see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied.  I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders.  I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear.  However, all of them return when I
go back into my email.  How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno

































































Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie Nelson <scribbles.mn@...>
 

if you don't empty it occasionally, it can fill with thousands of emails.
Glad that the folder did populate for you .
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

What thunderbird version is this tutorial for?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 2/20/21, Jamie <jamdim@...> wrote:
Thank you so very much. I just know this will be a great help.I really
appreciate it.


From: Cochise
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email
client thunderbird?

Below is a link that I copied from a previous email that might be of help.
I've done a thunderbird starter audio demonstration tutorial a while
ago for the new users of the client.
the link contains the audio file plus a few text files might be of
help for the new users.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/83fyh408eg0d86n/Thunderbird%20Files.zip?dl=1
TC

On 2/17/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
The problem isn't the commands. The interface is the same, once you get
to

the right place.
Once you open the program, use f6 to move to the folders' tree view and
once

more to move to the messages list. You could use f6 to get to the
folders'

list and then tab to get to the message list but when you are opening the
program and moving to where you want to work, f6 is the most convenient
way

to move from the folders treeview to the message list.


the program is very similar in a lot of ways. Ask if you have further
questions and problems.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:42 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] Mazilla Thunderbird

Hi all:


My Windows Live Mail e-mail program is "kaput", so had to change to
Thunderbird. Was pretty comfortable with WLM(with Windows7), but
feeling pretty lost usingT-bird with Jaws,and could use some assistance
with key commands for accessing inbox, address book, etc.


Sincerely,




David S. Pearson














----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie
To: blindtech@groups.io ; TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 2:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client
thunderbird?

Hi, everyone,
Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
Also, what email clients work well with windows ten and jaws 2020?
Thank you so much for any help.







Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene
 

I don't know. If it is the all mail folder that is in your GMail account, mail from other accounts shouldn't be there.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

Thanks.
Interesting, I looked in the all mail folder and it includes emails way back to 2002 way before I had a Gmail account. It has messages from an old road runner account. How in the world id all this info get in there?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't have any opinion. I don't empty them. If you run out of room in your GMail storage, messages will automatically be deleted to make way for new ones. At least I believe that is what I read. If you have concerns about having messages sitting there for years where someone such as a hacker might see them, you may want to remove them but I'm not concerned about that possibility. My mail is almost all e-mail list mail. I doubt hackers are interested in going through messages anyway. They try to hack accounts to send spam messages to people using your account such as to people in your addressbook, but they could do that anyway even if you remove messages, if you have an online addressbook.

I'm not sure that deleting messages from your e-mail program would delete them from the actual site. Others may know about that.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

Gene,

Thanks.
Interesting, I looked in the all mail folder and it includes emails way back to 2002 way before I had a Gmail account. It has messages from an old road runner account. How in the world id all this info get in there?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 7:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I don't have any opinion. I don't empty them. If you run out of room in your GMail storage, messages will automatically be deleted to make way for new ones. At least I believe that is what I read. If you have concerns about having messages sitting there for years where someone such as a hacker might see them, you may want to remove them but I'm not concerned about that possibility. My mail is almost all e-mail list mail. I doubt hackers are interested in going through messages anyway. They try to hack accounts to send spam messages to people using your account such as to people in your addressbook, but they could do that anyway even if you remove messages, if you have an online addressbook.

I'm not sure that deleting messages from your e-mail program would delete them from the actual site. Others may know about that.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene
 

I don't have any opinion. I don't empty them. If you run out of room in your GMail storage, messages will automatically be deleted to make way for new ones. At least I believe that is what I read. If you have concerns about having messages sitting there for years where someone such as a hacker might see them, you may want to remove them but I'm not concerned about that possibility. My mail is almost all e-mail list mail. I doubt hackers are interested in going through messages anyway. They try to hack accounts to send spam messages to people using your account such as to people in your addressbook, but they could do that anyway even if you remove messages, if you have an online addressbook.

I'm not sure that deleting messages from your e-mail program would delete them from the actual site. Others may know about that.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

Gene,

No problem.
The all mail folder has now populated. So now I have an inbox. All mail, and an important folder. Am I supposed to empty these periodically? Typically once I handle email in my inbox, it is either saved to a folder for future use or deleted.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

Jamie
 

Thank you so very much. I just know this will be a great help.I really appreciate it.
 
 

From: Cochise
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
 
Below is a link that I copied from a previous email that might be of help.
I've done a thunderbird starter audio demonstration tutorial a while
ago for the new users of the client.
the link contains the audio file plus a few text files might be of
help for the new users.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/83fyh408eg0d86n/Thunderbird%20Files.zip?dl=1
TC

On 2/17/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> The problem isn't the commands.  The interface is the same, once you get to
>
> the right place.
> Once you open the program, use f6 to move to the folders' tree view and once
>
> more to move to the messages list.  You could use f6 to get to the folders'
>
> list and then tab to get to the message list but when you are opening the
> program and moving to where you want to work, f6 is the most convenient way
>
> to move from the folders treeview to the message list.
>
>
> the program is very similar in a lot of ways.  Ask if you have further
> questions and problems.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:42 PM
> To: blindtech@groups.io
> Subject: [BlindTech] Mazilla Thunderbird
>
> Hi all:
>
>
> My Windows Live Mail e-mail program is "kaput", so had to change to
> Thunderbird.  Was pretty comfortable with WLM(with Windows7), but
> feeling pretty lost usingT-bird  with Jaws,and could use some assistance
> with key commands for accessing inbox, address book, etc.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>
> David S. Pearson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 2:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
 
Hi, everyone,
Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
Also, what email clients work well with windows ten and jaws 2020?
Thank you so much for any help.
 


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Gene
 

I meant IMAP. I got the acronym confused. MSAPI is something like Microsoft application program interface. I almost never think about that term so if I got it a little wrong, I expect someone will correct me.

Who knows why I used the wrong gterm?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email
folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's
talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood
him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question
is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the
web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use
simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not
saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I
see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

No POP 3, IMAP. Nevewr heard of MSAPI

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

If you are using an MSAPI account, not a POP3 account, there will be an all mail folder in your e-mail program if there is one in your GMail folders on the site. Or I should say, there should be one. I don't know why it isn't being seen by Al.

But I'll ask if you, Al, are using POP3 or MSAPI. That may provide the answer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


My understanding from Al is he's following steps to find the All Email
folder and I believe that's only found on the Gmail website. If he's
talking about the email client then it wouldn't matter and I misunderstood
him.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Are you talking about two different things? I believe the original question
is for using an e-mail program. You appear to be commenting on using the
web site itself. And for quite some time, it has not been necessary to use
simple HTML on the web site. I haven't used the web site much so I'm not
saying it isn't easier to use the simple HTML choice on the web site but I
see no reason that it should matter when using an actual e-mail program.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders


Howdy Al,

I don't know if this makes a difference with the newer email clients but, in
the past you needed to have Gmail set to, Basic HTML, view and not the,
Standard, view for screen reading programs to work correctly.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Thanks for all the suggestions. Folder does not currently exist, I also
tried creating it but it is still empty. Maybe it will populate over time
and if not, no big deal.

Thanks,
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angelo
Sonnesso
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

You first have to fine [Gmail.
Press the right arrow, and then type "A", until you hear "all Mail".



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from Gmail "All Mail" folders

Marie,

Are your directions using the Outlook program in MS 365 or on line with
Gmail? I use Outlook on my PC within MS 365 and do not find the all mail
folder you mention.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible
at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder.
This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email
copies. HTH Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich
DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which
every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in
one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails
with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I
go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: question on website accessibility answered

Vicki W
 

Got the answer.
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki W.
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:49 PM
Subject: question on website accessibility

I have a question concerning the legal obligation for website accessibility. Is there actually any written law or regulation that mandates websites to provide accessibility for blind and visually impaired users? If so, where can I find it?
 
Thank you.
 
Vicki
 

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