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Re: A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Carolyn Arnold
 

Press five on the Num Lock Pad twice, to get the character spelled phonetically. Right Arrow through a word to hear it letter by letter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Wohlgamuth
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:48 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Hi there FOLKS!
Was wondering if anyone could give me the hotkey for having Jaws spell the word that the cursor is on? I think I knew at one time, but can't seem to remember now? THANKS!
de
<wohlggie@gmail.com> <mailto:wohlggie@gmail.com> <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.


Re: really bad NVDA issues

Gene
 

The instructions are incorrect.
NVDA key n to open the NVDA menu, not to turn on NVDA, its already running.
Down arrow once to preferences and press enter.
Up arrow to punctuation/symbol pronunciation and press enter.  I think you up arrow twice.
I haven't tried the rest of the instructions.  They may not be complete.
You do shift tab and type page break.
Then you tab to the list.  I don't know if page break is automatically selected.  Up dan down arrow in the list.
Then follow th instruction about changing the level, by tabbing once from where you now are.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

Hay, I am trying to get rid of my page breaks when I read text. I wrote the instructions down but, I cant seem to get the steps to work. Can someone please tell me the step I am missing. I could not find the symbol area.” The steps to ignore page breaks with nvda.insert n to turn on NVDA.

step2 arrow down to preferences; arrow down to settings; arrow down twice  punctuation symbol' inter on that, and shift tab once, in the edit box;  type page break'; next tab twice to level combo box all.  tab to okay”.

Thank you everyone Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: heather albright via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Thank you Mike, I really appreciate this! It worked. I saved this too, maybe I was still on brain freeze from a few days ago. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Howdy again Heather,

 

Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.

 


 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Holly
 

Jim and Mike:
 
Oops.  Forgot the double tap.  Sorry about that.


Re: A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

thanks Mike and all who answered my question! Don't use this list much, but it certainly is nice to know their is a resource if I need it<SMILE!>. Have A Good 1!

de

KF8LT - Jim

On 22-Feb-21 13:12, Mike B wrote:

Hi Jim,
 
It's, Insert + numpad 5 twice quickly.  Hold down the Insert key and double tap numpad 5.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Jim:
 
Insert plus numpad 5.


Re: really bad NVDA issues

Mike B
 


Hi Heather,
 
Here are 2 sets of steps:
 
 I was able to make the screen reader not announce page breaks, not take them out. I followed jene’s directions as follows:
The steps to ignore page breaks with NVDA.
 
Insert + N, to open the NVDA menu.
 
Down arrow to, Preferences, and press enter. 
 
Down arrow to,  Punctuation  / Symbol Pronunciation, press enter, and down arrow 1 time.  
 
Now shift + tab 1 time to, Filter by edit , and type, page break, then down arrow to find, page break. 
 
Now tab to, level combo box and select All in the combobox, tab to okay and press enter. 
 
Now press, Insert + N, to open the NVDA menu, arrow up to Save Configuration, and press enter. 
Gene
 
 
From:
Steven Johnson
Hi everyone.  Sorry I'm late to the party.  I only caught the tail end of this thread, so if you folks have already figured this out, please just hit delete. 
I had this problem with long strings of equals signs in a document that I was reading with NVDA, but the same thing worked for me in NVDA when I told it
to not say page break.  I did the following:
1.  With NVDA running, hit the NVDA key with N.  In my case, NVDA key  was the insert key.
2.  Down  arrow once and you will reach preferences submenu, and hit right arrow.
3.  Arrow down twice and you will reach punctuation/symbol pronunciation.
4.  You will land on a list of 3359 different symbols that you can change the pronunciation of by NVDA.  Page break is symbol number 3225 on this gigantic
list in my version of NVDA which is March 1, 2019.
Note: Shift + Tab, and type, page break, then tab 1 time back into the list and you should be on, page break.
5.  Once you finally find page break, hit tab once or twice to  hear NVDA report say "change selected symbol grouping."  Now, just hit the spacebar, and
NVDA will say "Selection removed."
6.  Now, just tab to the okay button and hit enter.  After doing that, you might be thrown completely out of the NVDA menus.  Just go back into them with
NVDA key plus N, arrow down to save configuration and hit enter.  Now, when you read your document either with arrows or with say all, NVDA will not say
Page Break.
 
Hope this helps someone.
Steve

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

Hay, I am trying to get rid of my page breaks when I read text. I wrote the instructions down but, I cant seem to get the steps to work. Can someone please tell me the step I am missing. I could not find the symbol area.” The steps to ignore page breaks with nvda.insert n to turn on NVDA.

step2 arrow down to preferences; arrow down to settings; arrow down twice  punctuation symbol' inter on that, and shift tab once, in the edit box;  type page break'; next tab twice to level combo box all.  tab to okay”.

Thank you everyone Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: heather albright via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Thank you Mike, I really appreciate this! It worked. I saved this too, maybe I was still on brain freeze from a few days ago. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Howdy again Heather,

 

Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.

 


 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

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Re: really bad NVDA issues

Mike B
 


Your're welcome.  You  could very well have had some sort of download hiccup during the download and installation process with all the electrical problems y'all are having.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

Thank you Mike, I really appreciate this! It worked. I saved this too, maybe I was still on brain freeze from a few days ago. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Howdy again Heather,

 

Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.

 


 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Mike B
 


Hi Jim,
 
It's, Insert + numpad 5 twice quickly.  Hold down the Insert key and double tap numpad 5.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Jim:
 
Insert plus numpad 5.


Re: really bad NVDA issues

heather albright
 

Hay, I am trying to get rid of my page breaks when I read text. I wrote the instructions down but, I cant seem to get the steps to work. Can someone please tell me the step I am missing. I could not find the symbol area.” The steps to ignore page breaks with nvda.insert n to turn on NVDA.

step2 arrow down to preferences; arrow down to settings; arrow down twice  punctuation symbol' inter on that, and shift tab once, in the edit box;  type page break'; next tab twice to level combo box all.  tab to okay”.

Thank you everyone Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: heather albright via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Thank you Mike, I really appreciate this! It worked. I saved this too, maybe I was still on brain freeze from a few days ago. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Howdy again Heather,

 

Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.

 


 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Opinions on a blind friendly pod catcher?

joanne
 

I use radio downloader. I have to route jaws to pc cursor to find a lot of things, but since hermes podcast downloader stopped working for me, radio downloader is what seems to work ok.


Re: really bad NVDA issues

heather albright
 

Thank you Mike, I really appreciate this! It worked. I saved this too, maybe I was still on brain freeze from a few days ago. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Howdy again Heather,

 

Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.

 


 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

 

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


FW: New Features in NVDA 2020.4

John Holcomb II
 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:13 AM
To: jhii926@...
Subject: New Features in NVDA 2020.4

 

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New Features in NVDA 2020.4

 

The below list of features is a subset of the full list of new features for NVDA. I am simplifying and explaining the feature set in an attempt to help more nontechnical people appreciate what’s new for NVDA. This list was retrieved from NvAccess and edited here.

Features

This release includes new Chinese Input methods, an update to Liblouis and the elements list  now works in focus mode. Context sensitive help is now available when pressing F1 in NVDA dialogs. Improvements to symbol pronunciation rules, speech dictionary, Braille message and skim reading. Bug fixes and improvements to Mail, Outlook, Teams, Visual Studio, Azure Data Studio, Foobar2000. On the web, there are improvements to Google Docs, and greater support for ARIA. Plus many other important bug fixes and improvements.

New Features

  • Pressing F1 inside NVDA settings dialogs will now open the help file to the most relevant section.
  • Added support for the new chinese Traditional Quick and Pinyin Input methods in Windows 10.
  • Tab headers are now considered form fields with quick navigation f key.
  • Added a command to toggle reporting of marked  text; There is no default associated gesture.
  • Added the –copy-portable-config command line parameter that allows you to automatically copy the provided configuration to the user account when silently installing NVDA.
  • Braille routing is now supported with the Braille Viewer for mouse users, hover to route to a braille cell.
  • NVDA will now automatically detect the Humanware Brailliant BI 40X and 20X devices via both USB and Bluetooth.

Changes

  • Updated liblouis braille translator to version 3.16.1:
    • Addresses multiple crashes
    • Adds Bashkir grade 1 Braille table
    • Adds Coptic 8 dot computer braille table
    • Adds Russian literary braille and Russian literary braille  tables
    • Adds Added Afrikaans grade 2 braille table
    • Removes the Russian grade 1 Braille table
  • When reading with say all in browse mode, the find next and find previous commands do not stop reading anymore if Allow skim reading option is enabled; say all rather resumes from after the next or previous found term.
  • For HIMS braille displays F3 has been remapped to Space + dots 148.
  • Improvements to the UX of the “braille message timeout” and “Show messages indefinitely” options.
  • In web browsers and other applications that support browse mode, the Elements List dialog  can now be invoked when in focus mode.
  • Updates to ARIA live regions are now suppressed when reporting of dynamic content changes is disabled.
  • NVDA will now report “Copied to clipboard” before the copied text.
  • Presentation of graphical view table in disk management has been improved.
  • Labels for controls are now disabled  when the control is disabled.
  • Updated CLDR emoji annotation to version 38.
  • The inbuilt “Focus Highlight” feature has been renamed “Vision Highlight”.

Bug Fixes

  • NVDA once again works correctly with edit fields when using the Fast Log Entry application.
  • Report elapsed time in Foobar2000 if no total time is available .
  • NVDA now honors the aria-roledescription attribute on elements in editable content in web pages.
  • ‘list’ is no longer announced on every line of a list in Google Docs or other editable content in Google Chrome.
  • When arrowing by character or word from one list item to another in editable content on the web, entering the new list item is now announced.
  • NVDA now reads the correct line when the caret is placed at the end of a link on the end of a list item in Google Docs or other editable content on the web.
  • On Windows 7, opening and closing the start menu from the desktop now sets focus correctly.
  • When “attempt to cancel expired focus events” is enabled, the title of the tab is now announced again when switching tabs in Firefox.
  • NVDA no longer fails to announce a list item after typing a character in a list when speaking with the SAPI5 Ivona voices.
  • It is again possible to use browse mode when reading emails in Windows 10 Mail 16005.13110 and later.
  • When using the SAPI5 Ivona voices from harposoftware.com, NVDA is now able to save configuration, switch synthesizers, and no longer will stay silent after restarting.
  • It is now possible to enter number 6 in computer braille from a braille keyboard on HIMS displays.
  • Major performance improvements in Azure Data Studio.
  • With “Attempt to Cancel speech for expired focus events” enabled the title of the NVDA Find dialog is announced again.
  • NVDA should no longer freeze when waking the computer and focus lands in a Microsoft Edge document.
  • It is no longer necessary to press tab or move focus after closing a context menu in MS Edge for browse mode to be functional again.
  • NVDA no longer fails to read items in list views within a 64-bit application such as Tortoise SVN.
  • ARIA treegrids are now exposed as normal tables in browse mode in both Firefox and Chrome.
  • A reverse search can now be initiated with ‘find previous’ via NVDA+shift+F3
  • An NVDA script is no longer treated as being repeated if an unrelated key press happens in between the two executions of the script.
  • Strong and emphasis tags in Internet Explorer can again be suppressed from being reported by returning off Report Emphasis in NVDA’s Document Formatting settings.
  • A freeze of several seconds experienced by a small amount of users when arrowing between cells in Excel should no longer occur.
  • In Microsoft Teams builds with version numbers like 1.3.00.28xxx, NVDA no longer fails reading messages in chats or Teams channels due to an incorrectly focused menu.
  • Text marked both as being a spelling and grammar error at the same time in Google Chrome will be appropriately announced as both a spelling and grammar error by NVDA.
  • When using Outlook , the shortcut for ‘Reply all’  works again.
  • In Visual Studio, IntelliSense tool tips that provide additional details about the currently selected IntelliSense item are now only reported once.
  • In Windows 10 Calculator, NVDA will not announce progress of calculations if speak typed characters is disabled.
  • NVDA no longer crashes when using English US grade 2 and expand to computer Braille at the cursor is on, when displaying certain content such as a URL in Braille.
  • It is again possible to report formatting information for the focused Excel cell using NVDA+F.
  • QWERTY input on Papenmeier braille displays that support it again works and no longer causes NVDA to randomly freeze.

Start Your Update

If you’re running NVDA while reading this, perform the following steps to update it right now!

  1. Press NVDA+N.
  2. Press the letter H, or arrow down to Help.
    1.  
      1.  
        1.  
          1.  
            1.  
              1.  
                1.  
                  1.  

1.        

1.       Press the letter C, or arrow down to Check for update…

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Re: A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Holly
 

Jim:
 
Insert plus numpad 5.


A Jaws question about reading the current word..?

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

Hi there FOLKS!
    Was wondering if anyone could give me the hotkey for having Jaws spell the word that the cursor  is on? I think I knew at one time, but can't seem to remember now? THANKS!
de
<wohlggie@...><KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.


Re: Persistent Jaws error

Abbie Taylor
 

Hi, Pablo, I'm so sorry this is happening. I think you'd better call Freedom Scientific. Good luck.
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Re: Refresher Needed: How to attach file to Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

1.  Open Thunderbird.
2.  Open a new message in whatever fashion you want: control + N, address book and arrow down and choose ETC.
3.  Press alt + F for file and either arrow down to attach sub menu or press H.
4.  The first item is file.  Press enter on that.
5.  You are now in an open dialogue.  navigate to the file you wish to attach or type the exact path and press enter.  Your file is now attached to the new message.



On 2/22/2021 9:22 AM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Nancy,
 
Although I don't use T-Bird here's a note I've saved in case I ever needed to that might help.
 
 Original Message 
From: Margaret Thomas,
Thank you very much, Brian! I got the job done. It was partly the
wording of "open" in the dialogue that threw me off. I expected
something like attach now etc.
 
I'll check out the rest of your instructions for Thunderbird when I'm
fresh. I've used TB for a long time, but always want to learn something
new or another way of doing something.
Margaret
 
From: Mario
you could have also done it by pressing alt+f, then down arrow to and
enter on Attach submenu, and entering on File, but the Control+shift+a
is the shortcut TB uses to attach a file.
Mario
 
From:
Brian Vogel
Margaret,
 
 Since I cannot attach, I'm going to do a paste of the entire tutorial I wrote for a client quite a while back.  Things have not changed.  Search for the
line, "To add attachments," and you're right where you need to be as far as attaching to a message you're in the process of composing, whether it's a new
message or a reply.
 
Thunderbird e-mail client
 
IMPORTANT:  For those using Thunderbird with a screen reader I strongly suggest installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension.  This allows you
to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  Without it, this does not always work.   You will only need
to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  If you are using JAWS or NVDA, searching for this add on within Thunderbird
is quite simple:
 
. **,  Activate the Tools Menu, ALT + T, add-ons option (followed by A) and tab 3 times, at which point you should be on the Extensions Pane. 
If you happen to land on any other pane then use Down Arrow (or Up Arrow) until you hear Extensions.
 
. **,  Tab 2 times, which lands you in the search all add-ons edit box. 
 
. **,  Then type in Quick Folder Key Navigation, hit enter, and wait a few seconds for the search to complete. 
 
. **,  Tab 5 times more to gain focus on the list of results.  Then hit Down Arrow to start navigating the list. Quick Folder Key Navigation should
be the first result.
 
. **,  Tab 2 times to land on the Install button then hit enter.
 
. **,  After the install completes you need to exit Thunderbird and start it up again for this extension to become active
 
Upon opening Thunderbird, you will be in the folder tree sitting on whatever folder you had open the last time you closed it. You will still have to hit
TAB until you reach the folder tree view.
 
When in the folder tree view you can use first letter navigation to move around (if you installed the extension noted above).
 
When you are sitting on a folder in the folder tree view hitting TAB will take you to the message list.  You know you’ve arrived when you hear, “List View.” 
Use up and/or down arrow to navigate through the list of messages.  [Depending on the screen reader you usually have to hit TAB either once or twice.]
 
If you are using threaded view, and hear JAWS announce “Level zero, collapsed,” use the right arrow to expand the thread to show all its individual messages. 
To collapse the thread, get back to the first message at level zero and hit the left arrow.
 
When you land on the message you want to read, hit Enter to open it in a dedicated reading tab.
 
You will use the usual reading commands to read through the message that you use in any other program.
 
Thunderbird Shortcuts
 
Hit CTRL+W to close a reading tab and go back to the message list for the folder you had been viewing.
 
Hit SHIFT+TAB (once or twice) or F6 to move back to the folder tree from the message list for any folder.  This must be done after you delete all messages
in a given folder as well.
 
To select messages in the message list view:
 
 Once you are in the message list view, and have a specific single message selected:
 
1. <!--* >Holding SHIFT, while at the same time hitting either Up or Down Arrow will continue selecting messages in the direction you are moving.
 
2. <!--* >Holding SHIFT, then hitting PgUp or PgDown will select all messages above or below the currently selected message, respectively, stopping
with the first/last one currently displayed in the message list view.
 
You can use CTRL+A to select all messages, including ones currently not visible in the message list view.  Unless you’re certain about doing whatever you
intend to do with ALL messages, use this option with great caution.
 
To delete messages:
 
1. <!--* >If you are in the message list view, select the message or messages you wish to delete then hit the Delete key.  This will move them to
the Trash folder and none will be opened for reading if you use this technique.
 
2. <!--* >If you are reading a message and want to delete it, hit the Delete key and it will delete that message and automatically open the next
message in the folder for reading.
 
To reply to a message you’re reading:  CTRL+R opens the Write window with the subject filled in with “Re:” prefixing it and the text of the message you’re
replying to quoted.  Your cursor will be sitting right after the quoted material waiting for you to type.  If  you’re trying to do a Reply All that’s CTRL+Shift+R
 
To create a new message, regardless of what you’re doing in Thunderbird, hit CTRL+N.  This opens the Write window waiting for you to fill in your addressees
in the “To:” edit box.  As you hit Enter after filling in an address or choosing one from the dropdown list of previous addresses another edit box of the
same type opens.  If you need to change from “To:” to “CC:” or “BCC:” then hit SHIFT+TAB, use the up/down arrow key to find what you want, then hit TAB
again to go to the edit box for the address.
 
. **,  To add attachments to an outgoing message, hit CTRL+SHIFT+A to bring up the Attach Files dialog.  It is very similar to a Save dialog except
it works “in reverse.”  You will need to navigate to the location of the file you want to attach, select it, then either tab to the Open button or hit
ALT+O to attach the file to the message.
 
To send a message, whether it’s a reply or a new message, hit CTRL+ENTER when you’ve finished composing.  It will send immediately and close the Write
window, taking you back to wherever you had been before hitting the reply or new keyboard shortcut.
 
To get to attachments on an incoming message hit ALT+M, H  [Opens the Message Menu and selects the Attachments option]
 
Creating Folders in Thunderbird
 
 You can create folders within Thunderbird to organize your e-mail.  The concept is the same as in Windows File Explorer, and the tree view will be the
starting point.
 
1. <!--* >In the tree view navigate to the folder or account (if you want the folder directly under the account like Inbox, Sent, etc., typically
are) under which you want your new folder nested.  In most cases this will be your e-mail account itself, unless you are creating subfolders within other
existing folders.
 
2. <!--* >Hit ALT+F,N,F – File Menu, New Option, Folder Option – after which the New Folder dialog opens and you’ll be in the edit box in which
you’ll type the new folder’s name.
 
3. <!--* >Tab to the Create Folder button then hit enter, or hit ALT+R.  Your new folder has been created.
 
Moving Messages Between Folders on Thunderbird
 
1. <!--* >Select the message or messages you wish to move.
 
2. <!--* >Bring up the context menu with the applications/menu key or Shift+F10, then hit M [Move]
 
3. <!--* >You will be presented with a submenu that will vary somewhat depending on your folder structure, you have to drill down through the submenu
to locate the folder where you want the selected messages to be moved.
 
4. <!--* >Once you have focus on that folder, hit Enter and the message(s) will be moved there.
 
Brian

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:18 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Refresher Needed: How to attach file to Thunderbird

Everyone,

I am using one of the latest versions of win10 and at least version 76
up to 78 of TB.


I want to sent a file to a friend and cannot seem to remember or figure
out how to add an attachment.


Your suggestions and help on how to get that attachment in place would
be greatly appreciaated.


Many thanks in advance,,

nancy






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Re: Refresher Needed: How to attach file to Thunderbird

Mike B
 


Hi Nancy,
 
Although I don't use T-Bird here's a note I've saved in case I ever needed to that might help.
 
 Original Message 
From: Margaret Thomas,
Thank you very much, Brian! I got the job done. It was partly the
wording of "open" in the dialogue that threw me off. I expected
something like attach now etc.
 
I'll check out the rest of your instructions for Thunderbird when I'm
fresh. I've used TB for a long time, but always want to learn something
new or another way of doing something.
Margaret
 
From: Mario
you could have also done it by pressing alt+f, then down arrow to and
enter on Attach submenu, and entering on File, but the Control+shift+a
is the shortcut TB uses to attach a file.
Mario
 
From:
Brian Vogel
Margaret,
 
 Since I cannot attach, I'm going to do a paste of the entire tutorial I wrote for a client quite a while back.  Things have not changed.  Search for the
line, "To add attachments," and you're right where you need to be as far as attaching to a message you're in the process of composing, whether it's a new
message or a reply.
 
Thunderbird e-mail client
 
IMPORTANT:  For those using Thunderbird with a screen reader I strongly suggest installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension.  This allows you
to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  Without it, this does not always work.   You will only need
to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  If you are using JAWS or NVDA, searching for this add on within Thunderbird
is quite simple:
 
. **,  Activate the Tools Menu, ALT + T, add-ons option (followed by A) and tab 3 times, at which point you should be on the Extensions Pane. 
If you happen to land on any other pane then use Down Arrow (or Up Arrow) until you hear Extensions.
 
. **,  Tab 2 times, which lands you in the search all add-ons edit box. 
 
. **,  Then type in Quick Folder Key Navigation, hit enter, and wait a few seconds for the search to complete. 
 
. **,  Tab 5 times more to gain focus on the list of results.  Then hit Down Arrow to start navigating the list. Quick Folder Key Navigation should
be the first result.
 
. **,  Tab 2 times to land on the Install button then hit enter.
 
. **,  After the install completes you need to exit Thunderbird and start it up again for this extension to become active
 
Upon opening Thunderbird, you will be in the folder tree sitting on whatever folder you had open the last time you closed it. You will still have to hit
TAB until you reach the folder tree view.
 
When in the folder tree view you can use first letter navigation to move around (if you installed the extension noted above).
 
When you are sitting on a folder in the folder tree view hitting TAB will take you to the message list.  You know you’ve arrived when you hear, “List View.” 
Use up and/or down arrow to navigate through the list of messages.  [Depending on the screen reader you usually have to hit TAB either once or twice.]
 
If you are using threaded view, and hear JAWS announce “Level zero, collapsed,” use the right arrow to expand the thread to show all its individual messages. 
To collapse the thread, get back to the first message at level zero and hit the left arrow.
 
When you land on the message you want to read, hit Enter to open it in a dedicated reading tab.
 
You will use the usual reading commands to read through the message that you use in any other program.
 
Thunderbird Shortcuts
 
Hit CTRL+W to close a reading tab and go back to the message list for the folder you had been viewing.
 
Hit SHIFT+TAB (once or twice) or F6 to move back to the folder tree from the message list for any folder.  This must be done after you delete all messages
in a given folder as well.
 
To select messages in the message list view:
 
 Once you are in the message list view, and have a specific single message selected:
 
1. <!--* >Holding SHIFT, while at the same time hitting either Up or Down Arrow will continue selecting messages in the direction you are moving.
 
2. <!--* >Holding SHIFT, then hitting PgUp or PgDown will select all messages above or below the currently selected message, respectively, stopping
with the first/last one currently displayed in the message list view.
 
You can use CTRL+A to select all messages, including ones currently not visible in the message list view.  Unless you’re certain about doing whatever you
intend to do with ALL messages, use this option with great caution.
 
To delete messages:
 
1. <!--* >If you are in the message list view, select the message or messages you wish to delete then hit the Delete key.  This will move them to
the Trash folder and none will be opened for reading if you use this technique.
 
2. <!--* >If you are reading a message and want to delete it, hit the Delete key and it will delete that message and automatically open the next
message in the folder for reading.
 
To reply to a message you’re reading:  CTRL+R opens the Write window with the subject filled in with “Re:” prefixing it and the text of the message you’re
replying to quoted.  Your cursor will be sitting right after the quoted material waiting for you to type.  If  you’re trying to do a Reply All that’s CTRL+Shift+R
 
To create a new message, regardless of what you’re doing in Thunderbird, hit CTRL+N.  This opens the Write window waiting for you to fill in your addressees
in the “To:” edit box.  As you hit Enter after filling in an address or choosing one from the dropdown list of previous addresses another edit box of the
same type opens.  If you need to change from “To:” to “CC:” or “BCC:” then hit SHIFT+TAB, use the up/down arrow key to find what you want, then hit TAB
again to go to the edit box for the address.
 
. **,  To add attachments to an outgoing message, hit CTRL+SHIFT+A to bring up the Attach Files dialog.  It is very similar to a Save dialog except
it works “in reverse.”  You will need to navigate to the location of the file you want to attach, select it, then either tab to the Open button or hit
ALT+O to attach the file to the message.
 
To send a message, whether it’s a reply or a new message, hit CTRL+ENTER when you’ve finished composing.  It will send immediately and close the Write
window, taking you back to wherever you had been before hitting the reply or new keyboard shortcut.
 
To get to attachments on an incoming message hit ALT+M, H  [Opens the Message Menu and selects the Attachments option]
 
Creating Folders in Thunderbird
 
 You can create folders within Thunderbird to organize your e-mail.  The concept is the same as in Windows File Explorer, and the tree view will be the
starting point.
 
1. <!--* >In the tree view navigate to the folder or account (if you want the folder directly under the account like Inbox, Sent, etc., typically
are) under which you want your new folder nested.  In most cases this will be your e-mail account itself, unless you are creating subfolders within other
existing folders.
 
2. <!--* >Hit ALT+F,N,F – File Menu, New Option, Folder Option – after which the New Folder dialog opens and you’ll be in the edit box in which
you’ll type the new folder’s name.
 
3. <!--* >Tab to the Create Folder button then hit enter, or hit ALT+R.  Your new folder has been created.
 
Moving Messages Between Folders on Thunderbird
 
1. <!--* >Select the message or messages you wish to move.
 
2. <!--* >Bring up the context menu with the applications/menu key or Shift+F10, then hit M [Move]
 
3. <!--* >You will be presented with a submenu that will vary somewhat depending on your folder structure, you have to drill down through the submenu
to locate the folder where you want the selected messages to be moved.
 
4. <!--* >Once you have focus on that folder, hit Enter and the message(s) will be moved there.
 
Brian

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:18 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Refresher Needed: How to attach file to Thunderbird

Everyone,

I am using one of the latest versions of win10 and at least version 76
up to 78 of TB.


I want to sent a file to a friend and cannot seem to remember or figure
out how to add an attachment.


Your suggestions and help on how to get that attachment in place would
be greatly appreciaated.


Many thanks in advance,,

nancy






Re: really bad NVDA issues

Mike B
 


Howdy again Heather,
 
Here you go, both NVDA 2020.2 and 2020.3 are in the file Dropbox download below.
 

 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: really bad NVDA issues

Mike B
 


Hi Heather,
 
Give me a few minutes while I feed our 4 legged children and I'll send a Dropbox download link for NVDA2020.3.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:32 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] really bad NVDA issues

Hello, I cant seem to fix my nvda it will not save the configurations and it will not stay on American English. This all started with latest update. I did not really need this after the hellish week down here in Texas.It had to be the only time I did not save the older copy of NVDA.  So is their a page with the previous version? I even tried to factory reset the nvda and it keeps happening! So I thought if I could download the previous version; it would fix my issue! It still will not save my settings. Thank you all. Heather   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Radio Garden

Victor
 

Hi:

I have an iPhone and I have just found an app called radio Garden live. There wasn’t much of a description, but I think it’s similar to what you described in your email. There is also an app called garden radio.

HTH,

Victor


On Feb 22, 2021, at 2:51 AM, Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr@...> wrote:



Hi.  Heard an item on BBC radio 4 this morning just before I got up.  It is about a fun app that allows you to spin a globe and little lights show where various radio stations are located and you tap on the one that might interest you, it is called "Radio Garden.  I did a quick Google search to find the name of the app but this is a very busy day for me and can't afford the time to do much more research.  What I'd like to know is; Is this app on IOS and also can you get it on a PC and most importantly, is it accessible.  Has anybody used it and what is your experience?  I'll paste the link to what I found on google but I only read enough to confirm that it is the app I heard about on the radio. Walter.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13935680/radio-garden-studio-moniker-netherlands-institute-for-sound-and-vision

 


Radio Garden

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  Heard an item on BBC radio 4 this morning just before I got up.  It is about a fun app that allows you to spin a globe and little lights show where various radio stations are located and you tap on the one that might interest you, it is called "Radio Garden.  I did a quick Google search to find the name of the app but this is a very busy day for me and can't afford the time to do much more research.  What I'd like to know is; Is this app on IOS and also can you get it on a PC and most importantly, is it accessible.  Has anybody used it and what is your experience?  I'll paste the link to what I found on google but I only read enough to confirm that it is the app I heard about on the radio. Walter.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13935680/radio-garden-studio-moniker-netherlands-institute-for-sound-and-vision

 

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