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Re: Is it possible to create a list serve for a specific organization on groups IO?

Janet
 

Hi Ashley,
I do believe one could create a group for an organization, as that is something I just thought about a couple days ago as someone asked me to do this. I haven't even looked into it yet, so maybe someone here will chime in and let us both know.

Janet

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Breger via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:31 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Is it possible to create a list serve for a specific organization on groups IO?

Hi guys,
I was wondering if it’s possible to create a group for an organization and groups for say a college?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,

Ashley


Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene
 

That's right. I wasn't thinking about the time properly. Having said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe. Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as they should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep your browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current, follow safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to cause problems and if it does, you will have all your data files backed up to be placed on the next machine. Keep the drive you are backing them up on disconnected from the machine when you aren't using it. You should do that anyway. That way, if the machine should become infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think should be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the machine to a reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial. I'm telling you what I think the choices are that make sense. There is a chance, it may be a small or quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't work as well after you try a reset. It may solve your problems, at least temporarily, however. And if necessary, whatever happens with the reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish or take it to a shop and have it done. If you can't do things that are important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall Windows if a reset doesn't work. Either way, there will be considerable work involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech, he/she may find a way to solve the problems you are having while not doing a reset or reinstalling Windows. I don't know how likely that is, however, and you may end up spending more than you want with the result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away. Jim said he will get the new PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11, 2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing


Janet
Peace Be With You.


Re: the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet
 

Jim,
Well, I told myself just last night before I went to bed, I will not even turn on my Win 7 or Win 10 when I get up tomorrow, but low in behold, that was one of the first things I did. I call that determination! LOL! I turned on Win 7 as I am backing up thousands and thousands of files from Win 7 to an external drive, before Win 7 just might crash at least I will have my files backed up. I've already played around with Win 10, but because JAWS isn't talking well, I can't do much with Win 10 until JAWS gets it together, but I'm sure I will need to call FS tomorrow, as this is really just getting on my last nerve! Although, I have to admit, my Win 7 desktop is running much faster than my Win 10, as well as JAWS seems to be much more relaxed! I know I have to try and get used to my new Laptop, but so far, I don't care for Laptops at all, but like I said, I have a long way to go with it.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet, I couldn't agree with you more. I keep saying that I'm tired of
messing with this computer, and I am, but I just can't leave it alone till
the problem gets solved. So, we shall muddle through, as the British say.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Did you ever hear of the expression learn the hard way? Well, I think that
is exactly what we are doing! Smile! I also have much better things to do
with my time other than playing around with Win, but because today's tech is
so important to us as blind people, we do have to take the time to learn.
Even though, I say I need a break from Windows, I am determent to figure out
what happened to my so called Win 10. Although, I know it came from a
previous update, I'm going to fine this .... problem! LOL! If not, maybe
I'll do the reset, because at this point, I'm quite annoyed with this all!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

I have other things to do in my life than to keep messing with this. but of
course I willkeepp doing just that.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 1:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

HI Jim,
Another story! Smile! Well, I turned on my Win 10 today, and sure enough,
here comes more updates. Ok, I once again attempt to download, and get the
message error files missing from previous update you can't update. Ok, here
I go again with this .... again. So I wait just a couple minutes thinking
what in the hell am I going to do with this. Ok, once again, I get the
message asking me if I want to try the update again, and I agree to do so,
so the .... started downloading, and this time it took close to an hour, and
then it restarted on it's own, although, it would always say I need to
restart to complete the download, but not this time. Well, now JAWS has a
speech impediment once again. Jim, I am seriously thinking your problem is
definitely coming from an update you must have tried to update before, and
as I said, this is common with Windows. Some people never have this
problem, and some people do. I also think MS knows this, but they aren't
going to tell you one of their updates corrupted your system. I do know for
a fact this can and has happened, but I never had this to happen to me
though, so I really never paid close attention to how Windows can really
effect someone's PC. Maybe this answers our question why MS keeps saying
there isn't anything they can do. I also heard when MS sends out updates,
Laptops are the last ones to get them, as well as they send updates to
people who haven't had previous problems in downloading their updates. I'm
going to research this further as I want to know more about this. As far as
my Win 10, I'm going to have to go back to the Geek squad, because I want
someone to tell me exactly what is this problem. There are some options
that you could do if you really wanted to, but it does involve quite a bit,
and I don't know if you would want to go through all that, I know I sure
wouldn't. I definitely do believe a reset would make a big difference, but
then again, there is know guarantee though, and you just might end up with
no PC.
Janet

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

HI Janet, I Appreciate your story, and can understand you wanting to throw
the damn thing out the window. I feel the same way about this one. And, yes,
I get a message that there are pdates to install, so I gtell it to go ahead
and do them. And I then get a message after a little while that windows
couldn't update this computer. So I know that tomorrow we get to do it all
again. Ain't it fun?Computers are a must in everyone's life now, yet, I
taught public school for 33 years just fine with one. I was the only blind
teacher the Covina school district had. I had an internet radio show on the
global voice until this thing started to act up. Now it's so unreliable that
I can't depened on it foar anything. I sure hope things settle down with it
soon, Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok, it looks like I can now send as well as reply to the list.
Jim I'm going to share a story with you about what happened to me with my
Windows 10 Laptop. Just last Friday I turned on my Win 10 after not having
it turned on well over a week, the first thing I did after turning it on,
was to check for updates. Well, I did have some updates, and yes I did
update, and it took at least 2 hours to complete the update, so I restarted
the PC, and it came back up with a message saying I had an update for JAWS.
Ok, now I updated JAWS, and once again restarted the PC. Needless to say my
nightmare was about to begin. My PC was a total mess, meaning I couldn't do
anything with it even though, I tried working on it all day Friday and half
the day Saturday, as well as working to get JAWS to speak so I could
understand what he was saying. I finally lost my patience, and turned that
.... thing off. I couldn't understand JAWS at all, and the PC was so slow I
couldn't do anything with it. I felt like just throwing the PC out the
window, and believe me I came very close to doing that, but instead, I just
turned it off, and I didn't bother with it until this last Tuesday. Ok now,
Tuesday I turned it on to see if I could do anything with it, but again, I
couldn't, so I checked for updates, and once again, here comes more updates,
and yes I updated it, and I couldn't believe that update took exactly 4
hours to update, and sometimes JAWS would speak the percentage of the
update, and then JAWS would just get tired, and he would stop speaking, so I
didn't know what was going on, and being as curious as I am, I would press
the insert key plus the letter t for the title bar just so I would hear what
JAWS has to say, and then he would speak the percentage for awhile, and he
would once again stop, but my point is the update kept updating, in which
was fine for me, but I was ready to plug in my Laptop charger as I was
concerned the Laptop batteries would just die, but finally the .... finished
updating, and I had to restart so the PC could finish the complete update.
Well, needless to say, that really blew me away, as I never seen an update
take a total of 4 hours, in which that tells me something was most
definitely wrong with the previous update, and the PC was repairing the
corrupted update, and then downloaded the clean update. I've been working
with desktop computers as well as with JAWS for 30 years, and I've never
came across this. This was a first one for me. Ok now, today I turned on
my Win 10 again, and once again I checked for updates. Well now, more
updates to download, as I attempted to download the update, I got a message
saying there is an error and I'm missing some files, and I can't update, I
had no idea what was going on now, so I press the ok button to accept the
error message, and I waited for a few minutes, and I attempted the updates
again, and this time for what ever reason the damn thing finally downloaded
the update, and once again restarted the Laptop, and I waited for close to
an hour, and I just shut it off, and so far, it is working fine! So as you
can see Jim there are several different reasons things like this happen, but
I have no idea why. The reasons why I asked you the questions I asked you
earlier was to be for sure when you attempted to download an update your
updates could have easily gotten corrupted, and if you weren't paying close
attention, you might have not noticed that. It's really strainge because
earlier I was thinking that is what happened to your PC, and believe it or
not, that samething is what happened to me just today. Smile! These things
can and do often happen with Win updates. -----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Well, I wait for 20 minutes or so, and I figure it's stuck.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok this is also good to know, as it seems like you are a couple versions
behind though. Now, this might sound like a stupid question, how do you
know the download is stuck?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

I received it in 2017.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok, this is good to know. Now, when did you get this PC?

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Wow, did you say your version of Windows is 1909?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet, Microsoft tried to put on the latest version of windows, which is
2032 I think. Anyway, the installation failed, so I still have windows 1909
on this computer. So I wonder if I tried to install a clean install of
windows, if the same thing would happen, and the installation would fail.
What do you think? How would you go about installing a clean version of
windows? The other day when I talked to the lady from Hellen Keller
foundation, she was reluctant to let me have a copy of my office program,
so I would have to find it somewhere, unless there is a way to back up the
one I have. Any comments here are appreciated. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Hi Gene,
I can't understand why MS Disability didn't perform a reset themselves, or
did they. I haven't heard anything about what MS said as to why they can't
do anything, or what did they check, what did they find. The only times
I've had any problems downloading something, is because of my virus
protection, or even just because of my firewall settings, in which I just
turned them off, and tried the download again, and sure enough the download
went through, and I quickly turned on my firewall as well as my virus
protection. Although, I would think MS looked at all that.
Janet .

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 8:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Why not use reset? it saves work and if it doesn't work you can always
reinstall from scratch. But why not try this method of having a completely
clean copy of Windows first?

Then again is it worth doing any of this if you are going to get a new
computer in three months? Use other programs for the ones you can't use now

and we still ddon't know if you can get security updates for the version of
Windows you are running.

When you get the new computer, you may want to experiment with the old one
but is it worth the inconvenience now?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 5:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.



I still sayl, as I have from the outset, install Windows 10 from scratch.
That means initializing the disk. Of course you'll want to back everything
up frirst, which maybe by now is no longer possible, only you would know
this.




On 3/31/2021 3:31 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:


Absolutely, but lately, not.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Loy
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi Jim,



Have you ever been able to install a program on your computer? If not, it
could be the organization you got the computer from did not set it up where
you would have administrative rights. Just a thought.











----- Original Message -----



From: Jim Rawls



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:22 PM



Subject: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of
installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi all,

When Microsoft tried to install windows 2032 or whatever the latest version
of windows ten is, the installation failed. So I think Bill white is right.
I have a hardware issue on my computer. Jim


Is it possible to create a list serve for a specific organization on groups IO?

 

Hi guys,
I was wondering if it’s possible to create a group for an organization and groups for say a college?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,

Ashley


Re: learning zoom

 

I never really got the hang of the program… So I always choose launch from browser. It will ask me for permission to turn on microphone or camera, but I tell it no. I only use it for the chat in the first place since camera and microphone go through my phone using zoom.

Melissa

On Apr 3, 2021, at 11:29 AM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:



Okay, they send me the link for the class meeting and it opens in brave but, I never downloaded the zoom utility, so is it using the zoom from the breave browser? I have both jaws 21 and NVDA latest, wich is best to use in zoom? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

You don't need a camera.  I don't know if you will get any message about not

having one but if you do you can respond and just use audio.  When I enter a

Zoom meeting, there is a specific choice to use audio.  Video isn't started

at that time.

 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 10:54 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

Hello, I know how to use zoom  off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

 

Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim Rawls
 

Yes, they were reluctant. Also by the way, I lied about the license of this
computer. Smile. It's in my name. Jims

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 3:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
I'm now wondering if that could also have something to do with MS working on
your PC. All this is good to know. Did you say the agency that gave you
this PC was reluckton to give you any information regarding Outlook?

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

It 'sunder their name.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 2:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Do you have the license to that PC, or is it in the name of the agency that
bought it for you?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 3:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet, I used the media creation tool the second I tried to install it, and
it still failed to install. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Here is some information I just came across, and I copied and pasted below.


* How big is the download of Windows 10 20H2? If you're upgrading from
version 2004, the package is only a few megabytes. The Windows 10 20H2 ISO
file
is 4.9GB, and around the same using the Media Creation Tool or Update
Assistant.
* Does the Windows 10 20H2 requires reinstallation? No, if you're updating
from version 2004, reinstallation isn't required. If you use the Media
Creation
Tool, Update Assistant, or you're upgrading an older release, then full
reinstallation is required.
* How can I download Windows 10 20H2? When it becomes available, you'll be
able to download October 2020 Update from Windows Update as a quick update
on version 2004, or full feature update install for older versions.
Microsoft will also be making available the Media Creation Tool, Update
Assistant,
and ISO file to upgrade or perform a clean installation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 10:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Yes that is correct, Janit.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 11:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

John,
I heard the exact samething, as well as MS will only send the update to ones
machine for those who haven't had problems updating in the past.
Janet


Re: the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim Rawls
 

Janet, I couldn't agree with you more. I keep saying that I'm tired of
messing with this computer, and I am, but I just can't leave it alone till
the problem gets solved. So, we shall muddle through, as the British say.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Did you ever hear of the expression learn the hard way? Well, I think that
is exactly what we are doing! Smile! I also have much better things to do
with my time other than playing around with Win, but because today's tech is
so important to us as blind people, we do have to take the time to learn.
Even though, I say I need a break from Windows, I am determent to figure out
what happened to my so called Win 10. Although, I know it came from a
previous update, I'm going to fine this .... problem! LOL! If not, maybe
I'll do the reset, because at this point, I'm quite annoyed with this all!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

I have other things to do in my life than to keep messing with this. but of
course I willkeepp doing just that.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 1:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

HI Jim,
Another story! Smile! Well, I turned on my Win 10 today, and sure enough,
here comes more updates. Ok, I once again attempt to download, and get the
message error files missing from previous update you can't update. Ok, here
I go again with this .... again. So I wait just a couple minutes thinking
what in the hell am I going to do with this. Ok, once again, I get the
message asking me if I want to try the update again, and I agree to do so,
so the .... started downloading, and this time it took close to an hour, and
then it restarted on it's own, although, it would always say I need to
restart to complete the download, but not this time. Well, now JAWS has a
speech impediment once again. Jim, I am seriously thinking your problem is
definitely coming from an update you must have tried to update before, and
as I said, this is common with Windows. Some people never have this
problem, and some people do. I also think MS knows this, but they aren't
going to tell you one of their updates corrupted your system. I do know for
a fact this can and has happened, but I never had this to happen to me
though, so I really never paid close attention to how Windows can really
effect someone's PC. Maybe this answers our question why MS keeps saying
there isn't anything they can do. I also heard when MS sends out updates,
Laptops are the last ones to get them, as well as they send updates to
people who haven't had previous problems in downloading their updates. I'm
going to research this further as I want to know more about this. As far as
my Win 10, I'm going to have to go back to the Geek squad, because I want
someone to tell me exactly what is this problem. There are some options
that you could do if you really wanted to, but it does involve quite a bit,
and I don't know if you would want to go through all that, I know I sure
wouldn't. I definitely do believe a reset would make a big difference, but
then again, there is know guarantee though, and you just might end up with
no PC.
Janet

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

HI Janet, I Appreciate your story, and can understand you wanting to throw
the damn thing out the window. I feel the same way about this one. And, yes,
I get a message that there are pdates to install, so I gtell it to go ahead
and do them. And I then get a message after a little while that windows
couldn't update this computer. So I know that tomorrow we get to do it all
again. Ain't it fun?Computers are a must in everyone's life now, yet, I
taught public school for 33 years just fine with one. I was the only blind
teacher the Covina school district had. I had an internet radio show on the
global voice until this thing started to act up. Now it's so unreliable that
I can't depened on it foar anything. I sure hope things settle down with it
soon, Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok, it looks like I can now send as well as reply to the list.
Jim I'm going to share a story with you about what happened to me with my
Windows 10 Laptop. Just last Friday I turned on my Win 10 after not having
it turned on well over a week, the first thing I did after turning it on,
was to check for updates. Well, I did have some updates, and yes I did
update, and it took at least 2 hours to complete the update, so I restarted
the PC, and it came back up with a message saying I had an update for JAWS.
Ok, now I updated JAWS, and once again restarted the PC. Needless to say my
nightmare was about to begin. My PC was a total mess, meaning I couldn't do
anything with it even though, I tried working on it all day Friday and half
the day Saturday, as well as working to get JAWS to speak so I could
understand what he was saying. I finally lost my patience, and turned that
.... thing off. I couldn't understand JAWS at all, and the PC was so slow I
couldn't do anything with it. I felt like just throwing the PC out the
window, and believe me I came very close to doing that, but instead, I just
turned it off, and I didn't bother with it until this last Tuesday. Ok now,
Tuesday I turned it on to see if I could do anything with it, but again, I
couldn't, so I checked for updates, and once again, here comes more updates,
and yes I updated it, and I couldn't believe that update took exactly 4
hours to update, and sometimes JAWS would speak the percentage of the
update, and then JAWS would just get tired, and he would stop speaking, so I
didn't know what was going on, and being as curious as I am, I would press
the insert key plus the letter t for the title bar just so I would hear what
JAWS has to say, and then he would speak the percentage for awhile, and he
would once again stop, but my point is the update kept updating, in which
was fine for me, but I was ready to plug in my Laptop charger as I was
concerned the Laptop batteries would just die, but finally the .... finished
updating, and I had to restart so the PC could finish the complete update.
Well, needless to say, that really blew me away, as I never seen an update
take a total of 4 hours, in which that tells me something was most
definitely wrong with the previous update, and the PC was repairing the
corrupted update, and then downloaded the clean update. I've been working
with desktop computers as well as with JAWS for 30 years, and I've never
came across this. This was a first one for me. Ok now, today I turned on
my Win 10 again, and once again I checked for updates. Well now, more
updates to download, as I attempted to download the update, I got a message
saying there is an error and I'm missing some files, and I can't update, I
had no idea what was going on now, so I press the ok button to accept the
error message, and I waited for a few minutes, and I attempted the updates
again, and this time for what ever reason the damn thing finally downloaded
the update, and once again restarted the Laptop, and I waited for close to
an hour, and I just shut it off, and so far, it is working fine! So as you
can see Jim there are several different reasons things like this happen, but
I have no idea why. The reasons why I asked you the questions I asked you
earlier was to be for sure when you attempted to download an update your
updates could have easily gotten corrupted, and if you weren't paying close
attention, you might have not noticed that. It's really strainge because
earlier I was thinking that is what happened to your PC, and believe it or
not, that samething is what happened to me just today. Smile! These things
can and do often happen with Win updates. -----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Well, I wait for 20 minutes or so, and I figure it's stuck.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok this is also good to know, as it seems like you are a couple versions
behind though. Now, this might sound like a stupid question, how do you
know the download is stuck?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

I received it in 2017.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok, this is good to know. Now, when did you get this PC?

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Wow, did you say your version of Windows is 1909?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet, Microsoft tried to put on the latest version of windows, which is
2032 I think. Anyway, the installation failed, so I still have windows 1909
on this computer. So I wonder if I tried to install a clean install of
windows, if the same thing would happen, and the installation would fail.
What do you think? How would you go about installing a clean version of
windows? The other day when I talked to the lady from Hellen Keller
foundation, she was reluctant to let me have a copy of my office program,
so I would have to find it somewhere, unless there is a way to back up the
one I have. Any comments here are appreciated. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Hi Gene,
I can't understand why MS Disability didn't perform a reset themselves, or
did they. I haven't heard anything about what MS said as to why they can't
do anything, or what did they check, what did they find. The only times
I've had any problems downloading something, is because of my virus
protection, or even just because of my firewall settings, in which I just
turned them off, and tried the download again, and sure enough the download
went through, and I quickly turned on my firewall as well as my virus
protection. Although, I would think MS looked at all that.
Janet .

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 8:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Why not use reset? it saves work and if it doesn't work you can always
reinstall from scratch. But why not try this method of having a completely
clean copy of Windows first?

Then again is it worth doing any of this if you are going to get a new
computer in three months? Use other programs for the ones you can't use now

and we still ddon't know if you can get security updates for the version of
Windows you are running.

When you get the new computer, you may want to experiment with the old one
but is it worth the inconvenience now?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 5:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.



I still sayl, as I have from the outset, install Windows 10 from scratch.
That means initializing the disk. Of course you'll want to back everything
up frirst, which maybe by now is no longer possible, only you would know
this.




On 3/31/2021 3:31 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:


Absolutely, but lately, not.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Loy
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi Jim,



Have you ever been able to install a program on your computer? If not, it
could be the organization you got the computer from did not set it up where
you would have administrative rights. Just a thought.











----- Original Message -----



From: Jim Rawls



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:22 PM



Subject: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of
installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi all,

When Microsoft tried to install windows 2032 or whatever the latest version
of windows ten is, the installation failed. So I think Bill white is right.
I have a hardware issue on my computer. Jim


Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Janet
 

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away. Jim said he will get the new PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11, 2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing


Janet
Peace Be With You.


Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Jim Rawls
 

Janet, then, it's more important than ever that I get this problem solved.
You mentioned wanting to get your hands on my computer just to see what's
going on. Well, if you would care to do a tandem session with me I'm for it.
Let me know, and I'll give you my phone number, so that if we do the tandem
thing, we can communicate. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:51 AM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11, 2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be directed to
update their device to the 
latest version
 of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end
-of-servicing


Janet
Peace Be With You.


Re: Braille Displays

Joe Orozco
 

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays
mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe

On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it saves
them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com






Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene
 

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates. Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the other computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as some especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This applies to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11, 2021. Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing


Janet
Peace Be With You.


Brave Browser Beta!

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,
Well, as you can tell I'm reading once again. I came across this, and this does sound quite interesting to me, as Brave is my favorite browser. I'm seriously thinking about becoming a Beta Tester, and some of you just might think about it too. I copied and pasted the info below. Be sure to take a peak.

Hello Brave Community,
The Brave team is always trying to find ways to improve our product and create a more enjoyable user experience for all of you. One of the most common ways we (as well as most other software developers) go about ensuring the quality and integrity of fixes/new features in the browser is by sending them through the release pipeline. This ensures that new changes to the browser have had a chance to be rigorously tested and adjusted so that issues can be addressed before they make it to the Brave stable release.

While we do a lot of testing and quality assurance all on our own, we also rely on our users to help spot new issues and report on what's not working. However, we have recently noticed a gap in this process that we would like to address. Out of all Brave builds, it appears that we have the fewest active users on our Beta build-a key stop in the development pipeline. Brave Beta is the final stop before new code gets pushed into Brave's stable release, which is the version available for download from brave.com, and the daily driver for most Brave browser users.

As such, we need as many eyes on Beta as possible to test and report bugs/problems in the build, allowing us to make the necessary adjustments and remove any issues before they are pushed to the majority of our user base. It is also important to note that installing Brave Beta will not overwrite any Brave installations you have on your device currently, nor will any of your associated browsing data be overwritten. All Brave browser builds are designed to run in parallel with one another (they can all run at the same time).

If you want to help Brave provide the best possible experience for its users, we invite you to try Brave beta today and share your feedback. You can download Brave Beta at
Download Brave Beta | Brave Browser
The Brave browser is a fast, private and secure web browser for PC, Mac and mobile. Download now to enjoy a faster ad-free browsing experience that saves data and battery life by blocking tracking software.
You can provide feedback on the build, and report any issues or bugs on our Beta Builds section here on Community.


https://community.brave.com/


Janet

Peace Be With You.


Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as some especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This applies to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11, 2021. Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be directed to
update their device to the 
latest version
 of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing


Janet
Peace Be With You.


Re: learning zoom

chris judge
 

Hi Heather.

 

Since you’ve been using zoom off your iPhone I’m assuming you already have an account?

 

Go to the zoom web site:

www.zoom.us

Sign in with your email and password. You’ll next want to download the zoom meetings client and install it. You should then be able to follow a zoom link in an email to join a meeting. It’s a good idea to go through your audio settings to make sure it’s set to automatically connect to audio when you join the meeting. You won’t need a camera unless you want meeting participants to see you.

 

Jaws has better support for zoom than NVDA does if using jaws 2020 or 2021, There is also a training webinar on the freedom scientific web site that should give you all you need. Link is below.

using zoom with jaws

 

I hope this helps. Please feel to reach out should you have other questions.

 

Cheers.

 

Chris.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: April 3, 2021 12:54 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

Hello, I know how to use zoom  off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

Thanks Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: learning zoom

heather albright
 

Okay, is it the zoom rooms app from the Microsoft store? They had like three different zoom apps. Thanks  Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

No, when you open it you’ll need to download zoom first before you can get into your class.

John

 

 


Re: learning zoom

Gene
 

Any browser you use opens the Zoom Application which must be installed. There is no Zoom in the Brave Browser.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 11:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom



Okay, they send me the link for the class meeting and it opens in brave but, I never downloaded the zoom utility, so is it using the zoom from the breave browser? I have both jaws 21 and NVDA latest, wich is best to use in zoom? Thanks Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom





You don't need a camera. I don't know if you will get any message about not

having one but if you do you can respond and just use audio. When I enter a

Zoom meeting, there is a specific choice to use audio. Video isn't started

at that time.





Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 10:54 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom







Hello, I know how to use zoom off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.



Thanks Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: learning zoom

John Holcomb II
 

No, when you open it you’ll need to download zoom first before you can get into your class.

John

 


Re: learning zoom

John Holcomb II
 

Yeah its a it’s a program so no matter which version of Windows you use it'll just work.
Zoom is very consumer friendly and easy which is why its popularity has exploded.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 12:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

it doesn't matter wich browser you use. If all you want to do is participate and not host meetings, you don't need an account. You don't need to know much. You would download and install the Zoom application and you can do so directly from the Zoom site. It is an application, not an app. I don't know if there is a Windows 10 app but my impression is that those who use computers use the zoom application.

Once the app is installed, you can enter a meeting by using the link provided in the invitation message. You could launch Zoom by itself and put in the information but if the link is properly formed, just following the link will provide Zoom with all the information needed.

Once you download and install the app, people can send you common short cuts you may well want to use. I won't do so in this message.

I'm not sure which country you are in. it appears to me that there are different Zoom pages for different countries. I don't know if it matters for downloading an English version of the program, but I won't provide a link now.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 10:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom



Hello, I know how to use zoom off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking
a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who
can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app
threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the
brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not
have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

Thanks Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: learning zoom

heather albright
 

Okay, they send me the link for the class meeting and it opens in brave but, I never downloaded the zoom utility, so is it using the zoom from the breave browser? I have both jaws 21 and NVDA latest, wich is best to use in zoom? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

You don't need a camera.  I don't know if you will get any message about not

having one but if you do you can respond and just use audio.  When I enter a

Zoom meeting, there is a specific choice to use audio.  Video isn't started

at that time.

 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 10:54 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

Hello, I know how to use zoom  off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

 

Thanks Heather

 

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Re: learning zoom

Gene
 

You don't need a camera. I don't know if you will get any message about not having one but if you do you can respond and just use audio. When I enter a Zoom meeting, there is a specific choice to use audio. Video isn't started at that time.


Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 10:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom



Hello, I know how to use zoom off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

Thanks Heather

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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