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looking for computer speakers with volume knob on speaker

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


Can anybody recommend a set of computer speakers that has the volume knob on one of the speakers? I recently bought a set of speakers but they have an inline volume and I'd rather the volume be on one of the speakers to make it easier to reach.


I'd also like to get them from amazon because I have a gift card I need to use.


Thanks.


Troy


Re: orbit reader 20

Angelo Sonnesso
 

You can set it up on Windows 7, but if you are going online, it is risky to stay with Windows 7, since Microsoft no longer supports Windows 7.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] orbit reader 20

 

Hi group

 

Can an orbit reader connect to a windows 7 desktop via USB?

I am trying to connect the device, but its not working

Or do I have to install win 10

If that is done, I mean installing win 10, how to set it up to work with NVDA

Thanks

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


orbit reader 20

Kerryn Gunness
 

Hi group

 

Can an orbit reader connect to a windows 7 desktop via USB?

I am trying to connect the device, but its not working

Or do I have to install win 10

If that is done, I mean installing win 10, how to set it up to work with NVDA

Thanks

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Question about the Brailliant 40.

Jessica M
 

Thanks! I remember really liking the thumb keys, as opposed to the Braille Sense from GW Micro. It felt more natural to just hit a key with your thumb and keep reading, rather than move my hand over to hit a button on top of the machine, and then have to move my hand back over to the Braille line of text.

It too has the signature thumb keys.--Joe

On 4/5/21, Jessica M <misswings@lorettotel.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm doing some research on purchasing a Braille display, and notice
that the description for the Brailliant 20 mentions the thumb panning
keys. This brings to mind the older Braille Note displays, and II
remember really liking the thumb panning keys. In reading over the
description for the Brailliant 40, it doesn't mention the thumb
panning keys. Does this mean that the line advancement/previous line
functions are done differently using the larger display? Just
curious whether annyone who owns this model could give me some
input. I prefer a Braille keyboard to a Qwerty one, and would like
the display to also be able to connect to my iPhone, for reading
Kindle books, for example. Thanks in advance, and hope everyone's
holiday was a good and safe one.

Jess









Re: Braille Displays

Joe Orozco
 

A very well written post. Agreed on all counts. I'm not a huge fan of
the rattling sound on the Orbit line of displays, but for the price,
it is pretty revolutionary.--Joe

On 4/5/21, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
For me, when considering a device to purchase, the specs matter less than
the value, although everything should be considered.

- If you are a person looking for a Braille device, for something simple
and powerful, for being able to take your notes, you have the budget or
someone is paying for the device for you, and you don't care about
software
and security updates, having good hardware, etc., this device is
excellent.
- If you do care about your security, having decent hardware, don't have
the money or care about fiscal responsibility, and you are willing to
cobble up a solution with two devices and 3rd-party apps, this device is
absolutely not for you.


This device is absolutely not for me. Neither was the BrailleNote, or any
of the other devices of this kind on the market. I do appreciate a single
device with a Braille display, ease of use, where things tend to just work,
but I also appreciate not paying for a device that is antiquated before it
was ever released in terms of software and security updates and hardware. I
also refuse to be in a position to need to pay for a new device with the
same or greater cost in a few years because this device stops getting
updates, is even more antiquated than it is today, etc. For me, a display
like the orbit, along with an Android phone or iPhone with much better
hardware and software support is a much better use of my money, and is a
much cheaper proposition. I can make use of many apps on the Play Store, I
can still accomplish what I wish to accomplish with my laptop or with my
phone, I can still read Braille when I wish to do so, and I don't need to
pay the price for the Braille Sense, or any of these other blindness
note-taking devices.

It is important that everyone considers their own needs, the use that they
will put a device to, what they value out of a device, and their budgets
before making such a purchase.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:54 AM Joe Orozco <jsoro824@gmail.com> wrote:

A fair point, but even with the already announced 8 core CPU and 6 GB
of memory, it's already doing better than the closest competitor.--Joe

On 4/4/21, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Please consider waiting on the BrailleSense6! Yes, it runs Android10
OS,
but, at this point, no one knows what kind of processor will power it.
If
it turns out to be an underpowered processor, you shall have thrown
good
pennies after bad. Furthermore, during the demo process, there were
quite
a
number of untruths about the Android OS on which it shall run!

There was definitely a processor in the BrailleSense6 when it was being
demonstrated. I CAN NOT FATHOM why HIMS, Inc. fails to share info
about
the
new toy's processor. For me, anything less than a Qualcom SnapDragon
865
or
better will be unacceptable.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado










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Re: Question about the Brailliant 40.

Joe Orozco
 

It too has the signature thumb keys.--Joe

On 4/5/21, Jessica M <misswings@lorettotel.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm doing some research on purchasing a Braille display, and notice
that the description for the Brailliant 20 mentions the thumb panning
keys. This brings to mind the older Braille Note displays, and II
remember really liking the thumb panning keys. In reading over the
description for the Brailliant 40, it doesn't mention the thumb
panning keys. Does this mean that the line advancement/previous line
functions are done differently using the larger display? Just
curious whether annyone who owns this model could give me some
input. I prefer a Braille keyboard to a Qwerty one, and would like
the display to also be able to connect to my iPhone, for reading
Kindle books, for example. Thanks in advance, and hope everyone's
holiday was a good and safe one.

Jess








Question about the Brailliant 40.

Jessica M
 

Hi all,
I'm doing some research on purchasing a Braille display, and notice that the description for the Brailliant 20 mentions the thumb panning keys. This brings to mind the older Braille Note displays, and II remember really liking the thumb panning keys. In reading over the description for the Brailliant 40, it doesn't mention the thumb panning keys. Does this mean that the line advancement/previous line functions are done differently using the larger display? Just curious whether annyone who owns this model could give me some input. I prefer a Braille keyboard to a Qwerty one, and would like the display to also be able to connect to my iPhone, for reading Kindle books, for example. Thanks in advance, and hope everyone's holiday was a good and safe one.

Jess


Re: Braille Displays

Nimer Jaber
 

For me, when considering a device to purchase, the specs matter less than the value, although everything should be considered.
  • If you are a person looking for a Braille device, for something simple and powerful, for being able to take your notes, you have the budget or someone is paying for the device for you, and you don't care about software and security updates, having good hardware, etc., this device is excellent.
  • If you do care about your security, having decent hardware, don't have the money or care about fiscal responsibility, and you are willing to cobble up a solution with two devices and 3rd-party apps, this device is absolutely not for you.

This device is absolutely not for me. Neither was the BrailleNote, or any of the other devices of this kind on the market. I do appreciate a single device with a Braille display, ease of use, where things tend to just work, but I also appreciate not paying for a device that is antiquated before it was ever released in terms of software and security updates and hardware. I also refuse to be in a position to need to pay for a new device with the same or greater cost in a few years because this device stops getting updates, is even more antiquated than it is today, etc. For me, a display like the orbit, along with an Android phone or iPhone with much better hardware and software support is a much better use of my money, and is a much cheaper proposition. I can make use of many apps on the Play Store, I can still accomplish what I wish to accomplish with my laptop or with my phone, I can still read Braille when I wish to do so, and I don't need to pay the price for the Braille Sense, or any of these other blindness note-taking devices.

It is important that everyone considers their own needs, the use that they will put a device to, what they value out of a device, and their budgets before making such a purchase.  

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:54 AM Joe Orozco <jsoro824@...> wrote:
A fair point, but even with the already announced 8 core CPU and 6 GB
of memory, it's already doing better than the closest competitor.--Joe

On 4/4/21, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@...> wrote:
> Please consider waiting on the BrailleSense6!  Yes, it runs Android10 OS,
> but, at this point, no one knows what kind of processor will power it.  If
> it turns out to be an underpowered processor, you shall have thrown good
> pennies after bad.  Furthermore, during the demo process, there were quite
> a
> number of untruths about the Android OS on which it shall run!
>
> There was definitely a processor in the BrailleSense6 when it was being
> demonstrated.  I CAN NOT FATHOM why HIMS, Inc. fails to share info about
> the
> new toy's processor.  For me, anything less than a Qualcom SnapDragon 865
> or
> better will be unacceptable.
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
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attachments for security threats.

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To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.

Thank you, and have a great day!


Re: Braille Displays

Joe Orozco
 

A fair point, but even with the already announced 8 core CPU and 6 GB
of memory, it's already doing better than the closest competitor.--Joe

On 4/4/21, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Please consider waiting on the BrailleSense6! Yes, it runs Android10 OS,
but, at this point, no one knows what kind of processor will power it. If
it turns out to be an underpowered processor, you shall have thrown good
pennies after bad. Furthermore, during the demo process, there were quite
a
number of untruths about the Android OS on which it shall run!

There was definitely a processor in the BrailleSense6 when it was being
demonstrated. I CAN NOT FATHOM why HIMS, Inc. fails to share info about
the
new toy's processor. For me, anything less than a Qualcom SnapDragon 865
or
better will be unacceptable.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado







Re: Braille Displays

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Please consider waiting on the BrailleSense6! Yes, it runs Android10 OS,
but, at this point, no one knows what kind of processor will power it. If
it turns out to be an underpowered processor, you shall have thrown good
pennies after bad. Furthermore, during the demo process, there were quite a
number of untruths about the Android OS on which it shall run!

There was definitely a processor in the BrailleSense6 when it was being
demonstrated. I CAN NOT FATHOM why HIMS, Inc. fails to share info about the
new toy's processor. For me, anything less than a Qualcom SnapDragon 865 or
better will be unacceptable.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene
 

If there is some reason you want a clean copy of Windows on your machine, a reset is one way to get it. I would think it is the most convenient way.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 8:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

How does one reset; what is it; what does it do; and when should one do it?


On 4/3/2021 7:06 PM, Gene wrote:
That is what you would generally expect, but I don't have the technical knowledge to know if a hard drive problem might corrupt the source files used for the reset. We don't even know if there is a hard drive problem or if a hardware problem is causing corruption. I think that a reset should be attempted before a clean installation of Windows. If it works, that's fine. If it doesn't and if Jim is determined not to continue to use the computer as it is and has decided to do a clean reinstallation if necessary, there is no reason not to try a reset first.

I don't know if Jim has decided to keep using the computer as it is or what he is willing to do to ttry to solve problems between now and when he gets his new computer.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
That is the key word here corruption, but a reset should fix that as well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

You can always place a clean version of Windows on a machine. But there may
be corruption problems in Windows so that the updater can't install the
updates.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

That is incorrect. The way in windows update as well as the upgrade
assistant always work and are nondistructive.

On 4/3/2021 5:10 PM, Janet wrote:
Hi Enes,
Jim is still on version 1909, and he hasn't been able to update the
updates on his PC, for some strange reason. If he was to update to 20h2,
he would definitely need to do a complete install.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Not really, windows 2009 is a free upgrade from 1909.

On 4/3/2021 4:42 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
Ok I didn't know this until now. So this is something I have to go to
the store and buy to get the continued support I guess.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


That's right. I wasn't thinking about the time properly. Having
said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe.
Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as they
should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep your
browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current, follow
safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to cause problems
and if it does, you will have all your data files backed up to be
placed on the next machine. Keep the drive you are backing them up
on disconnected from the machine when you aren't using it. You
should do that anyway. That way, if the machine should become
infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what
happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think should
be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the machine to a
reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial. I'm telling you what I think the
choices are that make sense. There is a chance, it may be a small or
quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't work as well
after you try a reset. It may solve your problems, at least
temporarily, however. And if necessary, whatever happens with the
reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish or take it
to a shop and have it done. If you can't do things that are
important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall Windows if a
reset doesn't work. Either way, there will be considerable work
involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech, he/she
may find a way to solve the problems you are having while not doing a
reset or reinstalling Windows. I don't know how likely that is,
however, and you may end up spending more than you want with the
result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away. Jim said he will get the new
PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the
other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as
some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This
applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11,
2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be
directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing



Janet
Peace Be With You.















































Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

John Holcomb II
 

Or pres Winkey+I and type update in the search box.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 10:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi,

Reset keeps your files, but redownloads and reinstalls Windows.Go to settings/update and security/troubleshoot to get started. Refresh does this too, but also wipes all partitions and deletes everything.

On 4/4/2021 8:30 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
How does one reset; what is it; what does it do; and when should one
do it?


On 4/3/2021 7:06 PM, Gene wrote:
That is what you would generally expect, but I don't have the
technical knowledge to know if a hard drive problem might corrupt the
source files used for the reset. We don't even know if there is a
hard drive problem or if a hardware problem is causing corruption. I
think that a reset should be attempted before a clean installation of
Windows. If it works, that's fine. If it doesn't and if Jim is
determined not to continue to use the computer as it is and has
decided to do a clean reinstallation if necessary, there is no reason
not to try a reset first.

I don't know if Jim has decided to keep using the computer as it is
or what he is willing to do to ttry to solve problems between now and
when he gets his new computer.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
That is the key word here corruption, but a reset should fix that as
well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

You can always place a clean version of Windows on a machine. But
there may be corruption problems in Windows so that the updater can't
install the updates.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

That is incorrect. The way in windows update as well as the upgrade
assistant always work and are nondistructive.

On 4/3/2021 5:10 PM, Janet wrote:
Hi Enes,
Jim is still on version 1909, and he hasn't been able to update
the updates on his PC, for some strange reason. If he was to update
to 20h2, he would definitely need to do a complete install.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Not really, windows 2009 is a free upgrade from 1909.

On 4/3/2021 4:42 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
Ok I didn't know this until now. So this is something I have to go
to the store and buy to get the continued support I guess.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


That's right. I wasn't thinking about the time properly. Having
said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe.
Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as
they should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep
your browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current,
follow safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to
cause problems and if it does, you will have all your data files
backed up to be placed on the next machine. Keep the drive you
are backing them up on disconnected from the machine when you
aren't using it. You should do that anyway. That way, if the
machine should become infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what
happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think
should be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the
machine to a reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial. I'm telling you what I think
the choices are that make sense. There is a chance, it may be a
small or quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't
work as well after you try a reset. It may solve your problems,
at least temporarily, however. And if necessary, whatever happens
with the reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish
or take it to a shop and have it done. If you can't do things
that are important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall
Windows if a reset doesn't work. Either way, there will be
considerable work involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech,
he/she may find a way to solve the problems you are having while
not doing a reset or reinstalling Windows. I don't know how
likely that is, however, and you may end up spending more than you
want with the result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away. Jim said he will get the
new PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability
updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time.
the other computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share,
as some especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This
applies to the following editions of Windows 10 released in
November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909 . Windows 10 Pro for
Workstations, version 1909 These editions will no longer receive
security updates after May 11, 2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be
directed to update their device to the latest version of Windows
10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-1
0-1909-end-of-servicing




Janet
Peace Be With You.



















































Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

Reset keeps your files, but redownloads and reinstalls Windows.Go to settings/update and security/troubleshoot to get started. Refresh does this too, but also wipes all partitions and deletes everything.

On 4/4/2021 8:30 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
How does one reset; what is it; what does it do; and when should one do it?


On 4/3/2021 7:06 PM, Gene wrote:
That is what you would generally expect, but I don't have the technical knowledge to know if a hard drive problem might corrupt the source files used for the reset.  We don't even know if there is a hard drive problem or if a hardware problem is causing corruption.  I think that a reset should be attempted before a clean installation of Windows.  If it works, that's fine. If it doesn't and if Jim is determined not to continue to use the computer as it is and has decided to do a clean reinstallation if necessary, there is no reason not to try a reset first.

I don't know if Jim has decided to keep using the computer as it is or what he is willing to do to ttry to solve problems between now and when he gets his new computer.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
That is the key word here corruption, but a reset should fix that as well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

You can always place a clean version of Windows on a machine. But there may
be corruption problems in Windows so that the updater can't install the
updates.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

That is incorrect. The way in windows update as well as  the upgrade
assistant always work and are nondistructive.

On 4/3/2021 5:10 PM, Janet wrote:
Hi Enes,
   Jim is still on version 1909, and he hasn't been able to update the
updates on his PC, for some strange reason.  If he was to update to 20h2,
he would definitely need to do a complete install.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Not really, windows 2009 is a free upgrade from 1909.

On 4/3/2021 4:42 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
Ok I didn't know this until now. So this is something I have to go to
the store and buy to get the continued support I guess.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


That's right.  I wasn't thinking about the time properly.  Having
said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe.
Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as they
should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep your
browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current, follow
safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to cause problems
and if it does, you will have all your data files backed up to be
placed on the next machine.  Keep the drive you are backing them up
on disconnected from the machine when you aren't using it. You
should do that anyway.  That way, if the machine should become
infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what
happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think should
be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the machine to a
reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial.  I'm telling you what I think the
choices are that make sense.  There is a chance, it may be a small or
quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't work as well
after you try a reset.  It may solve your problems, at least
temporarily, however.  And if necessary, whatever happens with the
reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish or take it
to a shop and have it done.  If you can't do things that are
important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall Windows if a
reset doesn't work.  Either way, there will be considerable work
involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech, he/she
may find a way to solve the problems you are having while not doing a
reset or reinstalling Windows.  I don't know how likely that is,
however, and you may end up spending more than you want with the
result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away.  Jim said he will get the new
PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the
other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as
some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This
applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11,
2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be
directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing



Janet
Peace Be With You.


















































Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Howard Traxler
 

How does one reset; what is it; what does it do; and when should one do it?

On 4/3/2021 7:06 PM, Gene wrote:
That is what you would generally expect, but I don't have the technical knowledge to know if a hard drive problem might corrupt the source files used for the reset.  We don't even know if there is a hard drive problem or if a hardware problem is causing corruption.  I think that a reset should be attempted before a clean installation of Windows.  If it works, that's fine. If it doesn't and if Jim is determined not to continue to use the computer as it is and has decided to do a clean reinstallation if necessary, there is no reason not to try a reset first.

I don't know if Jim has decided to keep using the computer as it is or what he is willing to do to ttry to solve problems between now and when he gets his new computer.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
That is the key word here corruption, but a reset should fix that as well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

You can always place a clean version of Windows on a machine.  But there may
be corruption problems in Windows so that the updater can't install the
updates.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

That is incorrect. The way in windows update as well as  the upgrade
assistant always work and are nondistructive.

On 4/3/2021 5:10 PM, Janet wrote:
Hi Enes,
   Jim is still on version 1909, and he hasn't been able to update the
updates on his PC, for some strange reason.  If he was to update to 20h2,
he would definitely need to do a complete install.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Not really, windows 2009 is a free upgrade from 1909.

On 4/3/2021 4:42 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
Ok I didn't know this until now. So this is something I have to go to
the store and buy to get the continued support I guess.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


That's right.  I wasn't thinking about the time properly.  Having
said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe.
Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as they
should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep your
browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current, follow
safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to cause problems
and if it does, you will have all your data files backed up to be
placed on the next machine.  Keep the drive you are backing them up
on disconnected from the machine when you aren't using it. You
should do that anyway.  That way, if the machine should become
infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what
happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think should
be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the machine to a
reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial.  I'm telling you what I think the
choices are that make sense.  There is a chance, it may be a small or
quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't work as well
after you try a reset.  It may solve your problems, at least
temporarily, however.  And if necessary, whatever happens with the
reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish or take it
to a shop and have it done.  If you can't do things that are
important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall Windows if a
reset doesn't work.  Either way, there will be considerable work
involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech, he/she
may find a way to solve the problems you are having while not doing a
reset or reinstalling Windows.  I don't know how likely that is,
however, and you may end up spending more than you want with the
result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away.  Jim said he will get the new
PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the
other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as
some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This
applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11,
2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be
directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing



Janet
Peace Be With You.














































Re: how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Monte Single
 

AS I read the info below, office 2013 will receive security updates til April 2013.

Here is some info on windows products.; see info below or go to;

https://www.ghacks.net/2019/08/16/how-long-will-microsoft-continue-to-support-desktop-versions-of-office/
The following table lists recent desktop Office products and end of mainstream and extended support for each of the products.

Mainstream Support
Extended Support

Office 2010
no longer supported
October 13, 2020
Office 2013
no longer supported
April 11, 2023
Office 2016
October 13, 2020
October 14, 2025
Office 2019
October 10, 2023
October 14, 2025
As you can see, Office 2010 support ends next year; nine months after support for Windows 7 ends. 2020 will be a major year for many users and organizations as support for two core Microsoft products runs out.
The products won't just stop working though but Microsoft won't release security updates for them anymore. Microsoft did make a few exceptions in the past when it released security updates for products that it did not support anymore officially.
Support for the three remaining Office desktop products runs out in 2023 or 2025. Windows 8.1 support ends in 2023 and so does support for Office 2013. That leaves Office 2016 and 2019, and Windows 10 as the only desktop products provided that Microsoft does not release a new version of Windows (which it said it would not do claiming that Windows 10 was the last version).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: April 4, 2021 3:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

I am using Outlook 2013, and it works just fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Gene,
Come on now! We all have to eventually update programs in order for them to work smoothly. One can only get so much out of a program when it is not supported. Oh sure, one can still use it, but the program will run much more smoothly when it receives updates. I myself use Outlook 2010, and it is barely hanging on.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Why do you say it won't work efficiently? Something being out of support has nothing to do with how well it works unless conditions change over time such as a browser that is years old not being able to work with new Internet code.

It may be that if something is out of support long enough, it won't work properly in a new version of Windows, but a lot of old programs still work well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 8:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?



Jim,

I’m sorry to say, but MS has stopped supporting Outlook as of Oct 2020. You can still use it, but just don’t expect it to work efficiently though. You will need to upgrade this as well. Not much good news about MS and Outlook or Windows! LOL!



Janet



Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





2010. Jims





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





Jim,

What version of Outlook are you using



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





I am using jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


Re: learning zoom

heather albright
 

Well, think my problem was solved today when my pc finally updated to the latest build. So it was why it kept opening zoom when I tested it out this afternoon. I guess it was a windows installed application. So I pulled it out of the shell apps folder and created a shortcut off my desktop. Thanks to everyone for all the help, I appreciate it. I was told to use zoom off my pc on Saturday morning for my class that starts tomorrow. So I take it jaws works best with zoom? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: chris judge
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

Interesting. Zoom.us is the official site so you would think the software would be safe. I’m not aware of a zoom app that can be purchased from the ms store but their could be.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: April 4, 2021 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

Hello, I got a notice off the zoom site that this could harm my pc, so is there a site that does not have this issue? So I went to ninite.com, it gave me the same message from my windows security. So is it better to get the app from the Microsoft store? I had a friend who downloaded type of program and it came with a trojan.   I did not want that to happen to me. Thanks Heather    

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

I don't know if the history differs with an account.  I have  one without an

account.  I still have to enter the password but I can use the history to

enter a room.

 

I don't have a ;particular opinion about whether an account is created, I'm

saying that if the user wants to keep things more simple, for many people it

isn't necessary.

 

I also think it should be mentioned here that after the client is installed,

you should go to the test meeting page.  I don't know if the link differs in

different parts of the world but you can go here using the browser you want

and launch a test meeting in The United States.

https://zoom.us/test

 

There is a join button on the page to start a  test meeting, with you the

only member.  You can look around and play with the Zoom interface while the

meeting is in progress and after the application is installed, people can

tell you short cuts you might be interested in such as muting and unnmuting

yourself, moving to the chat area, moving to the attendees list, and others.

 

You can test your received audio and your microphone.  If you have trouble

working with the page, ask about how to use it here.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: chris judge

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 2:16 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

No but there is no cost to create an account and there are some benefits.

Retaining a meeting history is one such benefit. This means if you are

attending a class, or other sinarios where you will be joining the same room

more than once, you can do it through history instead of following the link

in an email.

 

Chris Judge

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene

Sent: April 4, 2021 4:14 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

If you are using Zoom without an account now, if you are going to use it in

the same way on a computer, you don't need an account.  You don't need one

to participate in a meeting or to download the application.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 1:46 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

Oh, thank you for the info! I will follow the sugestions. I have been using

the zoom app off the iPhone and I did not have a zoom account. But, I will

create one today. Cheers Heather

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

From: chris judge

Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:48 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Heather.

 

 

 

Since you’ve been using zoom off your iPhone I’m assuming you already have

an account?

 

 

 

Go to the zoom web site:

 

www.zoom.us

 

Sign in with your email and password. You’ll next want to download the zoom

meetings client and install it. You should then be able to follow a zoom

link in an email to join a meeting. It’s a good idea to go through your

audio settings to make sure it’s set to automatically connect to audio when

you join the meeting. You won’t need a camera unless you want meeting

participants to see you.

 

 

 

Jaws has better support for zoom than NVDA does if using jaws 2020 or 2021,

There is also a training webinar on the freedom scientific web site that

should give you all you need. Link is below.

 

using zoom with jaws

 

 

 

I hope this helps. Please feel to reach out should you have other questions.

 

 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

Chris.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather

albright

Sent: April 3, 2021 12:54 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

 

 

Hello, I know how to use zoom  off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

 

Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Veronica Kirk
 

I am using Outlook 2013, and it works just fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Gene,
Come on now! We all have to eventually update programs in order for them to work smoothly. One can only get so much out of a program when it is not supported. Oh sure, one can still use it, but the program will run much more smoothly when it receives updates. I myself use Outlook 2010, and it is barely hanging on.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Why do you say it won't work efficiently? Something being out of support has nothing to do with how well it works unless conditions change over time such as a browser that is years old not being able to work with new Internet code.

It may be that if something is out of support long enough, it won't work properly in a new version of Windows, but a lot of old programs still work well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 8:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?



Jim,

I’m sorry to say, but MS has stopped supporting Outlook as of Oct 2020. You can still use it, but just don’t expect it to work efficiently though. You will need to upgrade this as well. Not much good news about MS and Outlook or Windows! LOL!



Janet



Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





2010. Jims





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





Jim,

What version of Outlook are you using



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





I am using jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


Re: learning zoom

chris judge
 

Interesting. Zoom.us is the official site so you would think the software would be safe. I’m not aware of a zoom app that can be purchased from the ms store but their could be.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: April 4, 2021 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

Hello, I got a notice off the zoom site that this could harm my pc, so is there a site that does not have this issue? So I went to ninite.com, it gave me the same message from my windows security. So is it better to get the app from the Microsoft store? I had a friend who downloaded type of program and it came with a trojan.   I did not want that to happen to me. Thanks Heather    

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

I don't know if the history differs with an account.  I have  one without an

account.  I still have to enter the password but I can use the history to

enter a room.

 

I don't have a ;particular opinion about whether an account is created, I'm

saying that if the user wants to keep things more simple, for many people it

isn't necessary.

 

I also think it should be mentioned here that after the client is installed,

you should go to the test meeting page.  I don't know if the link differs in

different parts of the world but you can go here using the browser you want

and launch a test meeting in The United States.

https://zoom.us/test

 

There is a join button on the page to start a  test meeting, with you the

only member.  You can look around and play with the Zoom interface while the

meeting is in progress and after the application is installed, people can

tell you short cuts you might be interested in such as muting and unnmuting

yourself, moving to the chat area, moving to the attendees list, and others.

 

You can test your received audio and your microphone.  If you have trouble

working with the page, ask about how to use it here.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: chris judge

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 2:16 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

No but there is no cost to create an account and there are some benefits.

Retaining a meeting history is one such benefit. This means if you are

attending a class, or other sinarios where you will be joining the same room

more than once, you can do it through history instead of following the link

in an email.

 

Chris Judge

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene

Sent: April 4, 2021 4:14 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

If you are using Zoom without an account now, if you are going to use it in

the same way on a computer, you don't need an account.  You don't need one

to participate in a meeting or to download the application.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 1:46 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

Oh, thank you for the info! I will follow the sugestions. I have been using

the zoom app off the iPhone and I did not have a zoom account. But, I will

create one today. Cheers Heather

 

 

 

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From: chris judge

Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:48 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Heather.

 

 

 

Since you’ve been using zoom off your iPhone I’m assuming you already have

an account?

 

 

 

Go to the zoom web site:

 

www.zoom.us

 

Sign in with your email and password. You’ll next want to download the zoom

meetings client and install it. You should then be able to follow a zoom

link in an email to join a meeting. It’s a good idea to go through your

audio settings to make sure it’s set to automatically connect to audio when

you join the meeting. You won’t need a camera unless you want meeting

participants to see you.

 

 

 

Jaws has better support for zoom than NVDA does if using jaws 2020 or 2021,

There is also a training webinar on the freedom scientific web site that

should give you all you need. Link is below.

 

using zoom with jaws

 

 

 

I hope this helps. Please feel to reach out should you have other questions.

 

 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

Chris.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather

albright

Sent: April 3, 2021 12:54 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom

 

 

 

 

 

Hello, I know how to use zoom  off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.

 

Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?

Gene
 

Many people use thunderbird. Many people still use Windows Live Mail, as far as I know. there is a Windows Mail App but someone else will have to discuss it in detail. the Windows Mail App is a simple program and you can't have message rules, if you want them.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?



Janet, what is a good client to upgrade too? Will windows mail work with jaws now? Jim





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 6:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





Jim,

I’m sorry to say, but MS has stopped supporting Outlook as of Oct 2020. You can still use it, but just don’t expect it to work efficiently though. You will need to upgrade this as well. Not much good news about MS and Outlook or Windows! LOL!



Janet



Janet







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 8:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





2010. Jims





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





Jim,

What version of Outlook are you using



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] how do you add a signature to your outgoing messages in outlook 2010/?





I am using jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


Re: learning zoom

Gene
 

If you didn't download and install it, you don't have the application. What limitations you may have without the application, I don't know. I have no idea what you see when you move around when in a meeting, if you see things like the chat area, the members lists, and commands such as a mute/unmute button. I don't know if you can use Zoom without the application downloaded with any browsers. From what you say, it appears that you may be able to but I don't know anything about possibly using Zoom from within a browser.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom



Ah, I did not download zoom but, I went to that link to test the zoom set up and used my usb headset and it worked, thanks for this info. So not sure where the zoom app is located but, it came on just find. I did a windows search and it, the zoom, was not located off my pc, is it an add on to brave? So I wanted to save the location if I need to get to a zoom room quickly. Thank you for helping me with all this, I never thought I would have to use zoom off my pc as I was perfectly happy to use it off my phone. But the class said they wanted me to use zoom off the pc. Thanks Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: heather albright via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom





Hello, I got a notice off the zoom site that this could harm my pc, so is there a site that does not have this issue? So I went to ninite.com, it gave me the same message from my windows security. So is it better to get the app from the Microsoft store? I had a friend who downloaded type of program and it came with a trojan. I did not want that to happen to me. Thanks Heather



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From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom





I don't know if the history differs with an account. I have one without an

account. I still have to enter the password but I can use the history to

enter a room.



I don't have a ;particular opinion about whether an account is created, I'm

saying that if the user wants to keep things more simple, for many people it

isn't necessary.



I also think it should be mentioned here that after the client is installed,

you should go to the test meeting page. I don't know if the link differs in

different parts of the world but you can go here using the browser you want

and launch a test meeting in The United States.

https://zoom.us/test



There is a join button on the page to start a test meeting, with you the

only member. You can look around and play with the Zoom interface while the

meeting is in progress and after the application is installed, people can

tell you short cuts you might be interested in such as muting and unnmuting

yourself, moving to the chat area, moving to the attendees list, and others.



You can test your received audio and your microphone. If you have trouble

working with the page, ask about how to use it here.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: chris judge

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 2:16 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom



No but there is no cost to create an account and there are some benefits.

Retaining a meeting history is one such benefit. This means if you are

attending a class, or other sinarios where you will be joining the same room

more than once, you can do it through history instead of following the link

in an email.



Chris Judge





-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene

Sent: April 4, 2021 4:14 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom



If you are using Zoom without an account now, if you are going to use it in

the same way on a computer, you don't need an account. You don't need one

to participate in a meeting or to download the application.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 1:46 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom







Oh, thank you for the info! I will follow the sugestions. I have been using

the zoom app off the iPhone and I did not have a zoom account. But, I will

create one today. Cheers Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10











From: chris judge

Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:48 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] learning zoom











Hi Heather.







Since you’ve been using zoom off your iPhone I’m assuming you already have

an account?







Go to the zoom web site:



www.zoom.us



Sign in with your email and password. You’ll next want to download the zoom

meetings client and install it. You should then be able to follow a zoom

link in an email to join a meeting. It’s a good idea to go through your

audio settings to make sure it’s set to automatically connect to audio when

you join the meeting. You won’t need a camera unless you want meeting

participants to see you.







Jaws has better support for zoom than NVDA does if using jaws 2020 or 2021,

There is also a training webinar on the freedom scientific web site that

should give you all you need. Link is below.



using zoom with jaws







I hope this helps. Please feel to reach out should you have other questions.







Cheers.







Chris.







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather

albright

Sent: April 3, 2021 12:54 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] learning zoom











Hello, I know how to use zoom off my i-devices but, I am going to be taking

a class that requires me to use zoom off my computer. So is there anyone who

can show me how to use zoom off the pc? Do I need to download zoom as an app

threw the windows store; is it better to use jaws or NVDA; I want to use the

brave browser like I have been using. Do I need a camera I currently do not

have a camera access off my pc. I have a headset wired or Bluetooth.



Thanks Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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