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Re: more secure e-mail

Hope Williamson
 

People don't wish to use Google as they're email service, and that's fine. There's no reason to question those decisions.

    I haven't used Fastmail myself, but it's something I've been looking into. I'm pretty sure it's something you could use with a client like Thunderbird, if you wanted to.

On 4/8/2021 12:52 PM, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
Is there any reason why you  don't wish  to use google or microsoft as your email provider?
You can also pay them to get higher storage like google workspace and your own domain like yourdomain.com etc. 
As for Microsoft, its rather tie down to office as well.
Personally, I have been using Google ap, change name to G-suite and now workspace for my own email and work.

Then again, that also depend how much you are willing to pay for your email service.
Did your telco/provider gave you one email?

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 01:51, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, I am thinking about purcheassing an e-mail service instead of using free e-mail from google or outlook. I was looking to fastmail as a possibility. Has anyone used this service before? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



--

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


Side Loading Apps Would Break the Security and Privacy of iPhone Says Tim Cook!

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,
Well, I'm once reading again! I came across this article in which I thought was quite interesting, I copied and pasted below.

Side loading Apps Would 'Break' the Security and Privacy of iPhone, Says Tim Cook
Monday April 5, 2021 4:32 am PDT by
Sami Fathi
In a
wide-ranging interview
with The New York Times' Kara Swisher, on her podcast "Sway," Apple CEO
Tim Cook
talks about Apple's feud with Facebook, its stance on privacy, Apple's legal battle with
Epic Games,
and possible future Apple innovations such as
Apple Glasses.
tim cook apple park
Apple is in the midst of a
heated public spat with Facebook
over privacy, particularly over an upcoming feature on iOS that will require apps to ask for users consent before tracking them.
The new feature called ATT, or App Tracking Transparency, coming with iOS 14.5 in "a few weeks," according to Cook, will force apps to ask users for permission
to track them across other apps and websites. Facebook has argued vehemently against the new feature, saying it impacts small businesses that rely on personalized
ads, derived from tracking, to keep afloat.
‌Tim Cook‌ says he disagrees with that argument, indirectly saying that Facebook's point of view is "flimsy." Cook calls privacy the "top issue of the
21st century," adding that with tracking, companies, such as Facebook are able to put "together an entire profile of what you're thinking and what you're
doing."
What App Tracking Transparency] tries to get at is companies that are taking advantage of tracking you across apps of other companies and therefore putting
together an entire profile of what you're thinking, what you're doing, surveilling you across the web 24/7.
They'll see a simple pop-up that basically prompts them to answer the question, are they OK with being tracked or not? If they are, things move on. If
they're not, then the tracking is turned off.
When asked how the new feature will impact Facebook,
Cook says he's not "focused on Facebook,"
saying Apple adds new tools and features every year that improves and doubles down on user privacy. Speaking more specifically to what actions may need
to be taken against companies that track users, Cook says he used to be a firm believer in the ability for companies to regulate themselves but notes that's
now changed.

Generally speaking, I think privacy is one of the top issues of the 21st century, and I think we're in a crisis. Years ago, I thought companies would regulate
themselves and sort of get better. I no longer believe that. And I'm not generally somebody that is keen on regulation, but I think that regulation is
required.

In a speech at a
privacy conference in January,
Cook strongly condemned social media companies that fuel conspiracy theories thanks to their algorithms. Cook says that Apple doesn't have a social media
platform that is "pushing stuff in your feed," but notes it does have the
App Store
which it takes careful consideration in curating content for.

Well, you know, I can only speak for Apple. And from the very start, we've always believed in curation. And so we review every app that goes on the store.
That doesn't mean that we're perfect at doing it. We're not. But we care deeply about what we're offering our users. And when we have a new product like

Apple News,
we have human editors that are selecting the key stories. And so they're avoiding all of the misinformation that is out there. The reality is that the
web in some areas has become a dark place. And without curation, you wind up with this firehose of things that I would not want to put into an amplifier.
Which is what tech is in a large way. If you have a platform, you amplify things.

Cook in typical Apple fashion never comments on future, unreleased Apple products. However, possibly hinting at ‌Apple Glasses‌, Cook says AR is "critically"
important for the future of Apple. The CEO envisions a future where conversations include more than just words, but include charts, and "other things"
appearing in a virtual space.

Well, I can't talk about anything that we may or may not have in the pipeline. But in terms of AR, the promise of AR is that you and I are having a great
conversation right now. Arguably, it could even be better if we were able to augment our discussion with charts or other things to appear. Your audience
would also benefit from this, too, I think. And so when I think about that in different fields, whether it's health, whether it's education, whether it's
gaming, whether it's retail, I'm already seeing AR take off in some of these areas. And I think the promise is even greater in the future. So it's a critically
important part of Apple's future.

Speaking about
Apple's fight with Epic Games,
Cook says that Epic had long followed ‌App Store‌ rules, but decided to no longer follow the guidelines all other developers follow. Cook says Apple is
"confident" in its case with the gaming giant.
It's about living up to the rules and the guidelines of the ‌App Store‌, and they had done that for years and then had decided, evidently, that they didn't
want to follow the rules anymore and had passed something throughout the review process, and then after it had been through app review, changed it on the
server-side. So it was sort of a deceitful move. And so we're going into court. We're coming to tell our story. We're going to talk about the privacy and
security aspects of the store. And we're confident in our case.

One of ‌Epic Games‌' biggest arguments about the Apple ecosystem is the lack of so-called "freedom" for users to download apps from places other than the
‌App Store‌. Many have long voiced their hope that Apple would allow users to sideload apps onto their device, such as the
iPhone.
Cook says that sideloading apps, however, would "break the privacy and security" model of the ‌iPhone‌.
In the remainder of the podcast, ‌Tim Cook‌ talks about his relationship with the President Biden administration and said he "probably" will not be Apple's
CEO in 10 years. The full 36-minute long podcast is available over at
The New York Times.

Peace Be With You.


Re: more secure e-mail

Gene
 

I don't know your specific situation but in general, so much information is collected that my question is why worry about this one thing? Do you use Facebook? A lot of peoples' personal information such as birthdays have leaked. Do you use a smart phone? The phone provides a rough record of where you go and when and if someone wanted to, they could find out. How about smart phone apps? A lot of them share information and I doubt you have any idea which ones share what. Do you use loyalty cards at stores? Information is being collected. I don't know this, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if information about credit card purchases is collected as well.

and whether you pay for e-mail or not, to prevent your e-mail being used to advertise to you, e-mail isn't secure unless it is encrypted. Why spend money and worry about this one thing?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 2:52 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more secure e-mail


Is there any reason why you don't wish to use google or microsoft as your email provider?
You can also pay them to get higher storage like google workspace and your own domain like yourdomain.com etc.
As for Microsoft, its rather tie down to office as well.
Personally, I have been using Google ap, change name to G-suite and now workspace for my own email and work.

Then again, that also depend how much you are willing to pay for your email service.
Did your telco/provider gave you one email?


On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 01:51, heather albright <kd5cbl@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello, I am thinking about purcheassing an e-mail service instead of using free e-mail from google or outlook. I was looking to fastmail as a possibility. Has anyone used this service before? Thanks Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10













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Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


Re: more secure e-mail

Thomas N. Chan
 

Is there any reason why you  don't wish  to use google or microsoft as your email provider?
You can also pay them to get higher storage like google workspace and your own domain like yourdomain.com etc. 
As for Microsoft, its rather tie down to office as well.
Personally, I have been using Google ap, change name to G-suite and now workspace for my own email and work.

Then again, that also depend how much you are willing to pay for your email service.
Did your telco/provider gave you one email?

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 01:51, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, I am thinking about purcheassing an e-mail service instead of using free e-mail from google or outlook. I was looking to fastmail as a possibility. Has anyone used this service before? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



--

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


more secure e-mail

heather albright
 

Hello, I am thinking about purcheassing an e-mail service instead of using free e-mail from google or outlook. I was looking to fastmail as a possibility. Has anyone used this service before? Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: deleting short cut off the desktop

heather albright
 

I finally got it to go a way after restarting the pc. I had moved it to the favorites folder and had erased the short cut off the desktop. It was in the recyle ben but, after I restarted my pc when I had a jaws u, it was no longer on the desktop. Cheers Heather s

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] deleting short cut off the desktop

 

Because you deleted the favorite but you didn’t delete the actual shortcut.

If you hit delete on the thing that it can’t find it should let you delete it.

Try that and let us know.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 1:00 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] deleting short cut off the desktop

 

Hello, I have a desktop favorite and I deleted it to the recyle ben and cleared the ben but, it will not get off my desktop. It is still on it and but, it says it cant find it, so why is it still on the desktop. Any ideas? Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

chris judge
 

Hi Troy. You might want to contact Sirius to see if there is an upgrade to allow you to stream on more than one device. I don't know if there is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: April 7, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

Chris,


I can tell you from personal experience that if you're listening to siriusXM on an echo that you can't also have it playing on the app at the same time. At least it appears to be that way, my mom has the app on her phone and if she's at work and opens the app while I'm listening here at home through my echo my feed stops and when I try to restart I get a message that siriusXM is being played on another device, and I'm pretty sure that if she is listening to the app at work and I ask my echo to play siriusXM the same thing happens as I described above in reverse. That's why I originally started this thread, to see if anything can be done.


Btw my mom has an xm receiver in her car and she can have it on in the car and I can be listening here at the same time.


Troy



On 4/6/2021 9:29 AM, chris judge wrote:
This is true. I use Sirius all the time. I usually use my amazon echo to select what channel I want to listen to. If we try to launch Sirius on another speaker it won't work and we get a message from Sirius that it is already playing on another device. I haven't tried listening on the app while playing on an echo device.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wendy Walker
Sent: April 6, 2021 11:18 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time


I have an online subscription and I was told by the rep I could only listen to it on one device at a time. He was very specific aboutit.

Wendy


On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

John,


I don't know the answer to either of your questions. That may at least give me an idea of what to ask about if or when I contact siriusXM.


Troy



On 3/4/2021 9:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Do you have an account that let’s you listen to all devices at the same time nad are all of them registered ?
John
On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,


If I try to listen to siriusXM here at home with my amazon echo and my mom tries to listen through the xm app on her phone while at work, whoever starts listening first the feed gets interrupted when the other person turns it on. Is this normal behavior and is there anything we can do where we can both listen at the same time with no interruptions? Btw this is with an online subscription, the same thing doesn't happen between the xm receiver in the car and my echo.


Thanks.


Troy

















Re: playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

John Holcomb II
 

I wonder if they offer some kind of family thing where you can have more than one account and more than one person able to listen. Hmm.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 9:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

Chris,


I can tell you from personal experience that if you're listening to siriusXM on an echo that you can't also have it playing on the app at the same time. At least it appears to be that way, my mom has the app on her phone and if she's at work and opens the app while I'm listening here at home through my echo my feed stops and when I try to restart I get a message that siriusXM is being played on another device, and I'm pretty sure that if she is listening to the app at work and I ask my echo to play siriusXM the same thing happens as I described above in reverse. That's why I originally started this thread, to see if anything can be done.


Btw my mom has an xm receiver in her car and she can have it on in the car and I can be listening here at the same time.


Troy



On 4/6/2021 9:29 AM, chris judge wrote:
This is true. I use Sirius all the time. I usually use my amazon echo to select what channel I want to listen to. If we try to launch Sirius on another speaker it won't work and we get a message from Sirius that it is already playing on another device. I haven't tried listening on the app while playing on an echo device.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wendy Walker
Sent: April 6, 2021 11:18 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time


I have an online subscription and I was told by the rep I could only listen to it on one device at a time. He was very specific aboutit.

Wendy


On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

John,


I don't know the answer to either of your questions. That may at least give me an idea of what to ask about if or when I contact siriusXM.


Troy



On 3/4/2021 9:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Do you have an account that let’s you listen to all devices at the same time nad are all of them registered ?
John
On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,


If I try to listen to siriusXM here at home with my amazon echo and my mom tries to listen through the xm app on her phone while at work, whoever starts listening first the feed gets interrupted when the other person turns it on. Is this normal behavior and is there anything we can do where we can both listen at the same time with no interruptions? Btw this is with an online subscription, the same thing doesn't happen between the xm receiver in the car and my echo.


Thanks.


Troy

















Re: playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

Troy Burnham
 

Chris,


I can tell you from personal experience that if you're listening to siriusXM on an echo that you can't also have it playing on the app at the same time. At least it appears to be that way, my mom has the app on her phone and if she's at work and opens the app while I'm listening here at home through my echo my feed stops and when I try to restart I get a message that siriusXM is being played on another device, and I'm pretty sure that if she is listening to the app at work and I ask my echo to play siriusXM the same thing happens as I described above in reverse. That's why I originally started this thread, to see if anything can be done.


Btw my mom has an xm receiver in her car and she can have it on in the car and I can be listening here at the same time.


Troy

On 4/6/2021 9:29 AM, chris judge wrote:
This is true. I use Sirius all the time. I usually use my amazon echo to select what channel I want to listen to. If we try to launch Sirius on another speaker it won't work and we get a message from Sirius that it is already playing on another device. I haven't tried listening on the app while playing on an echo device.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wendy Walker
Sent: April 6, 2021 11:18 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time


I have an online subscription and I was told by the rep I could only listen to it on one device at a time. He was very specific aboutit.

Wendy


On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

John,


I don't know the answer to either of your questions. That may at least give me an idea of what to ask about if or when I contact siriusXM.


Troy



On 3/4/2021 9:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Do you have an account that let’s you listen to all devices at the same time nad are all of them registered ?
John
On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,


If I try to listen to siriusXM here at home with my amazon echo and my mom tries to listen through the xm app on her phone while at work, whoever starts listening first the feed gets interrupted when the other person turns it on. Is this normal behavior and is there anything we can do where we can both listen at the same time with no interruptions? Btw this is with an online subscription, the same thing doesn't happen between the xm receiver in the car and my echo.


Thanks.


Troy
















Re: I need help setting up windows mail.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi Janet,

Yes, they are setting up the new computer and there will’ve a version of outlook on it. So I will just hang in there. Thanks for your advice. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I need help setting up windows mail.

 

Hi Jim,

I’m assuming you are referring to the Windows Mail App when you say Windows Mail, right?  Jim because you will be getting a new PC from an agency, you need to ask them if there is going to be an Outlook program on the new PC.  If so, you need to ask them which Outlook version, and if they are going to set it up for you, and if so, you need to ask them for the password they will be using, unless they are going to be using your current password.  If they are not going to put an Outlook account on the PC, you can then think about the Windows Mail Ap.  It isn’t difficult to set up Windows Mail App, but right now you might not want to upset the apple cart!  LOL!  The agency might already have an Outlook account set up for you especially if they are going to set up the PC for you.  When I set up my new Windows 10 PC, and entered my Wi-Fi information, that took me directly to the MS web site, and I got a message asking me to log in to my account with my current email address as well as my password with my Outlook account.  So, after I entered that information, the Windows Mail App was automatically created.  So, you can do the samething, but I don’t know if you are setting up the new PC, is the agency setting it up for you, is there going to be a new version of Outlook.  These are questions you need to ask the agency so you can now prepare for the new PC.  I’m assuming you only have a couple of months to go before you get the new PC, right?

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I need help setting up windows mail.

 

Hi all, I need help setting windows mail up. If someone could do a tandem session with me, I would appreciate it. Thanks, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. . Jim


Re: Combination A M FM clock radio with phone

Ron Canazzi
 

When I search on the exact way you referenced the phone, I get a bunch of references to some sort of automotive grill work.


Re: I need help setting up windows mail.

Janet
 

Hi Jim,

I’m assuming you are referring to the Windows Mail App when you say Windows Mail, right?  Jim because you will be getting a new PC from an agency, you need to ask them if there is going to be an Outlook program on the new PC.  If so, you need to ask them which Outlook version, and if they are going to set it up for you, and if so, you need to ask them for the password they will be using, unless they are going to be using your current password.  If they are not going to put an Outlook account on the PC, you can then think about the Windows Mail Ap.  It isn’t difficult to set up Windows Mail App, but right now you might not want to upset the apple cart!  LOL!  The agency might already have an Outlook account set up for you especially if they are going to set up the PC for you.  When I set up my new Windows 10 PC, and entered my Wi-Fi information, that took me directly to the MS web site, and I got a message asking me to log in to my account with my current email address as well as my password with my Outlook account.  So, after I entered that information, the Windows Mail App was automatically created.  So, you can do the samething, but I don’t know if you are setting up the new PC, is the agency setting it up for you, is there going to be a new version of Outlook.  These are questions you need to ask the agency so you can now prepare for the new PC.  I’m assuming you only have a couple of months to go before you get the new PC, right?

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I need help setting up windows mail.

 

Hi all, I need help setting windows mail up. If someone could do a tandem session with me, I would appreciate it. Thanks, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. . Jim


Combination A M FM clock radio with phone

Howard Traxler
 

Did anyone else buy this phone:
XACT model CX1903

It's a corded phone with built-in clock radio, has talking caller ID.  I'd sure like to find a manual for this device.  Anybody have one?  Thanks.

Howard


I need help setting up windows mail.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I need help setting windows mail up. If someone could do a tandem session with me, I would appreciate it. Thanks, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. . Jim


Re: deleting short cut off the desktop

John Holcomb II
 

Because you deleted the favorite but you didn’t delete the actual shortcut.

If you hit delete on the thing that it can’t find it should let you delete it.

Try that and let us know.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 1:00 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] deleting short cut off the desktop

 

Hello, I have a desktop favorite and I deleted it to the recyle ben and cleared the ben but, it will not get off my desktop. It is still on it and but, it says it cant find it, so why is it still on the desktop. Any ideas? Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


deleting short cut off the desktop

heather albright
 

Hello, I have a desktop favorite and I deleted it to the recyle ben and cleared the ben but, it will not get off my desktop. It is still on it and but, it says it cant find it, so why is it still on the desktop. Any ideas? Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Braille Displays

Joe Orozco
 

Cristóbal,

What factors are you considering when deciding between the Orbit 40
and the Mantis 40? I mean, other than one is Perkins keyboard and the
other QWERTY? I'm sitting on a Braille Sense U2 at the moment. It is a
fully functional notetaker but is no longer being supported by HIMS.
I'm actually satisfied with what it does. I'm drawn to the Mantis,
because although I don't mind typing in Braille, the Braille
translation on iOS, in my personal opinion, leaves something to be
desired. The Mantis would eliminate that issue and provide me Braille.
The Orbit, on the other hand, is $1,100 cheaper, and based on my
observation of the 20-cell model, has excellent Braille quality. I'm
not the biggest fan of the space bar located below the Braille
display, which, I know, is probably shallow of me and likely something
I could get used to. Anyway, thanks in advance for your response.

Joe

On 4/6/21, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@gmail.com> wrote:
I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note
taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I
don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for
many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are,
that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting
the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying
that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy
thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I
too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked
me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to
tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy.
Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000
but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That
Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something
like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille
experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various
iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more
productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS
traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer
Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305.
I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that
yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted
wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off
of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had
ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back
in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm
talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my
desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that
back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's
got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they
had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more
80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about
devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that.
Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille
display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any
given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware
provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last
year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and
now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either
a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt
for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I
know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing
down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes
brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management
features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and
whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are
for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can throw one
more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned
here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com
















Re: Braille Displays

Victor
 

The first refreshable braille display I ever used was the 40 cell versabraille. Someone told me about it at summercamp in the summer of 1982 and I used it for a year or two when I started high school. It was located in the resource room for the visually impaired that we had there. I enjoyed that braille display a lot.

Victor

On Apr 7, 2021, at 1:00 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com



























Re: Braille Displays

chris judge
 

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com






Re: playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

chris judge
 

That might be different if one of the devices is a radio. I'm not really sure as I just have the streaming package.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Veronica Kirk
Sent: April 6, 2021 9:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time

If I don't forget, I am going to listen to SiriusXM in the vehicle and then come in the house and try to listen on the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wendy Walker
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 9:18 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] playing siriusXM on 2 devices at the same time


I have an online subscription and I was told by the rep I could only listen to it on one device at a time. He was very specific aboutit.

Wendy


On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

John,


I don't know the answer to either of your questions. That may at least give me an idea of what to ask about if or when I contact siriusXM.


Troy



On 3/4/2021 9:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Do you have an account that let’s you listen to all devices at the same time nad are all of them registered ?
John
On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,


If I try to listen to siriusXM here at home with my amazon echo and my mom tries to listen through the xm app on her phone while at work, whoever starts listening first the feed gets interrupted when the other person turns it on. Is this normal behavior and is there anything we can do where we can both listen at the same time with no interruptions? Btw this is with an online subscription, the same thing doesn't happen between the xm receiver in the car and my echo.


Thanks.


Troy










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