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Re: laptop

Thomas N. Chan
 

It should work. 
I am mainly using distribution from Ubuntu and centos.
Gui is good but I like to type command, I can accomplish more but it might not be for everyone. Isn't it there's a VI linux distribution? Is it still being updated?
I mostly ssh over using putty, and do the things I want to do. But  for the NAS linux, once you setup, you go in by the web UI. and setup those drives.

For NAs I mentioned earlier, try
freenas and now known as truenas.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 22:32, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

So I could put Linux?

Maybe X Ubuntu?

Would this tdistro even  support32-bit legacy hardwhere like this?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:25 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

You are running a machine series that I used to own. Its only 100mbps ethernet port lol...

 

I got a lower end machine, without those serial ports, still got a DVD burner, 8gb of ram (I max it out already), I upgraded 256gb to 640gb harddrive.

Its running windows 7 though.

Works fine, I can surf net on it which its the only thing I does with it.

Even if I would get the latest OS, I will not run windows 10 on it. too much work to get the driver to get going. I done once, last year on one of the computer in the office. 

in the end, i load up linux on it and put whatever gui for the user to use it as the day to day processing unit. still alive as we speak.

 

Too much limitation to get an old machine to work.

 

If you don't want, run a NAS on it. linux base, and you can put multiple drives on them external or internal and you can put on the network for file sharing. i done for a customer previously.

if it die, thats all it can do. surfing net will be a pain. you can listen to music on it, watch youtube... simple stuff. opening document, edit a few page but if you want to to do more, then it will be too slow.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 22:12, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Lmao um. Yeah back then.

Core duo, 4GB of DDR2 ram. (it had 2GB and I upgraded it to the fastest speed possible and the most amount it’d support in 2011.

WiFi g

DVD-RW

Still has a 56K modem and parallel port! Serial too if I’m remembering correctly.

Has ethernet (though I’m not sure if its 10, 100 or 1000.

It’s a Dell Inspirine E-1705

I actually replaced the still working original 80GB SATA 2 drive with an SATA-based SSD that I believe is 200 GB and tried to put Windows 10 on it.

No go.

I’d love to put a lightweight OS on it but not sure what or how.

All of the hardware works perfectly!

If you’ve got any ideas, let me know!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 4:52 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Good machine.



Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 10:52, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Hey there,

I have a laptop from 2006 which started off with XP and then I  put 7 on it.

The hardwhere still works! But 10 won’t run on it.

The only thing I could possibly do is  put Linux on it.

But the Linux would have to support 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Hi, my first laptop a satellite a 300 toshiba lasted for 6 years, then my mom had it for another 4 years, running windows xp or vista. I think. And second machine, lasted almost 5 years, and was windows 7 pro 64 bit with a dvd drive. Gave it to a friend, who is a sighted programmer, and then he put in a new ssd for his mom,  windows 10. Now had to get a new Samsung external ssd drive 500 gb, as my 1 tb Toshiba external  drive, was about to die. Able to copy all files from that. And so got a new assus vivo book with a ssd. First time using that and yes, takes about 30 secs to power up and hear the windows chime and the login screen with jaws. Do have 8 gb ram, do have a spare 8 gb two spare 4 gb slots. Could have used 16 gb, when doing my network course and ran out of memory for running multiple virtual machines. And like to get a new laptop every 6 to 7 years or 5 years. So had this assus a couple of years. Thanks.

Ps: I 3 7 dual quad or quad core, up to 8cores. 2.3 ghz processor, 8 gb ram, 500 gb ssd. One usb 3, two usb 2 ports. 15.inch passive colour I think, or maybe active colour. Not sure. Standard keyboard, built in web cam, mike. Surround sound and using the real tech surround sound app. Two speakers. No card reader.

A good machine.

Excellent sound. And do have windows 10 pro 64 bit, it came with windows 10 home 64 bit 1809. So upgraded it a few times.

Marvin. .


Re: laptop

Pamela Dominguez
 

Yes, I have known that for a long time.  And I already answered somebody else’s comment about this.  Pam.
 

Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop
 

Pam, you can get an external cd/dvd drive for 20 or 30 bucks.  Just plug in the usb cable and you are in business.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: April 19, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Is this true?  That’s not something I would be happy about.  Pam.

 

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate  $107.

Marvin.

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Installation of OS in our PC / Laptop

Vinod Benjamin
 

ho! is it? Wow thanks ,so will it be happening at the boot sequence, itself?

Regards,
Vinod Benjamin

On 4/18/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Absolutely!
Ctrl+WindowsKey+Enter
Will start narrator during the install process so you can install windows
10 all on your own.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vinod
Benjamin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:52 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Instollation of OS in our PC / Laptop

Dear Friends,

is there any way in which we have a inbuilt screen reader Narrator with
windows 10 OS installation , so that we persons with visual impairment can
do OS installation on our own.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin












Re: laptop

Gene
 

How often do you use one? Ihaven't looked at laptops for years but if I could get a smaller one that is lighter, I might want that if it means no DVDRom included. It used to be that larger laptops often had an included one but I have no idea if that is the case now.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop


Yes, but I don’t want to have to have one I have to connect up. Pam.

From: Loy
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

That is true, however if you really need a CD/DVD drive you can purchase one for about $20 and attached by USB.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

Is this true? That’s not something I would be happy about. Pam.

From: Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop


Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate $107.

Marvin.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: laptop

Pamela Dominguez
 

Yes, but I don’t want to have to have one I have to connect up.  Pam.
 

From: Loy
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop
 
That is true, however if you really need a CD/DVD drive you can purchase one for about $20 and attached by USB.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop
 
Is this true?  That’s not something I would be happy about.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop
 

Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate  $107.

Marvin.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Gene
 

Again, this is something those with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment on, but its my understanding that you may not need to purchase anything. Your copy of Windows 10 is already authorized and I've seen commenhts on this or that list that Microsoft keeps the authorization information so you don't have to authorize it if you download and install a copy from the Internet if you are already authorized to use Windows 10.

If worst comes to worst, you can go back to using Windows 8 for a time, using the factory restore I discussed where you don't go into Windows but restore from a hidden partition on the computer. I really doubt that Microsoft interferes with the contents of that hidden partition during upgrades or installations. So if using the Windows 10 reset doesn't work and if placing a clean copy on in another way doesn't solve the problems, you should be able to go back to Windows 8 again for a time. I believe support for Windows 8 runs until sometime in 2023. But I wouldn't be surprised if either the Windows 10 reset or using a clean installation will solve your problems.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?


thanks gene, I'll check it out. My wife is going on disability so it's not like I can get her to use her prize points to purchase a new computer again. Figure I'll work on this and if I need to, I'll just have to save my pennies and buy a copy of windows 10 to install or upgrade the windows 8 OS. Really don't want to do so considiering my wife will not have health insurance for the next year until medicare kicks in for her but that is our cross to bear.

Thank for digging this info out from the internet.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I did a bit of looking around and I didn't find anything specifically
discussing what we are discussing. I did find an article telling you how to
reset Windows 10 and I am giving that link below. But we are discussing
restoring Windows 10 on a computer that originally had another operating
system on it. Restoring Windows 10 does just that. But if I upgraded or
installed Windows 10 on my laptop, as far as I know, nothing would be done
to get rid of the data on the hidden partition my computer has to restore it
to factory defaults, in other words, to restore it to its factory state, as
it left the factory with Windows 7 and whatever else was placed on the
computer at the factory by the manufacturer. Here are the instructions for
doing so on my computer. As you will see, they have nothing to do with
booting into Windows or restoring a clean copy of a new or upgraded operting
system. As you will also see from the article I linked to below, you can
reset Windows 10 within Windows 10 which will place a clean copy on your
machine.

Remember, instructions for doing what is described below in this manual
excerpt vary depending on brand and model of machine so check to see what
your machine's instructions are. I am reproducing these instructions to
demonstrate what I am saying, not to provide instructions for how you do
this on your computer.

From my Toshiba manual:
To recover the original factory image using the utilities on your
computer’s internal storage drive:

1
Make sure the computer is turned off.

2
Press and hold the 0 (zero) key on your keyboard while
powering on the computer.

3
If your system offers a choice of Windows® 7 32-bit or 64-bit
operating system, select one at this time. If not, skip to step 4.

4
A warning screen appears, stating that when the recovery is

executed all data will be deleted and rewritten. Click Yes to

continue.

5
When the Toshiba Recovery Wizard opens and the Selecting a
process screen displays, select Recovery of Factory Default
Software and then click Next.

6 The Recovery of Factory Default Software screen appears.
Select Recover to out-of-box state.

7 Click Next.

A confirmation message displays reminding you that all data
will be lost during the recovery process. Be sure to save your
work to external media before proceeding (see “Backing up
your work” on page 105).

8 Click Next to begin the recovery.

When the process is complete, a message displays indicating
that the internal storage drive has been recovered.

9 Press any key on the keyboard to restart the computer.

the link below discusses how to reset Windows 10 from within your
installation of Windows 10. It is completely different from what was
described above.
https://www.theverge.com/21264104/windows-10-reset-os-reboot-troubleshoot-microsoft

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I don't remember if or what I said when he asked that. I don't have Windows
10. I don't know how you do a Windows 10 reset. As I recall, another list
member described in detail how it is done. Whether I responded and said I
don't know how it is done, I don't recall. I may not have either as an
oversight or because I saw the explanation from someone else on the list so
I didn't need to respond.

I'm right and yet, you keep insisting I'm not. Prove it? Do a Google
search on Windows 10 reset and learn about it. I don't thing the feature
that a lot of computers have that restores the computer to its factory state
is even called reset and it is not initiated from within Windows. You
initiate it before Windows boots. the procedure is initiated differently on
different brands and models of computer. Reset was one of the new features
in Windows 10 and it received publicity when Windows 10 came out because it
allows you to put a clean copy of Windows 10 on the machine. You shouldn't
have difficulty finding information about it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Gene,
I’m not in any mood to debate with you especially regarding the reset
feature, as we went through all that maybe a month ago. What I meant when I
said you didn't answer Keith was you told him to do a reset, and that would
put a fresh copy of Windows 10 on his PC, and he replied by asking you how
can he do that, and you never replied. This is correct about the reset
feature. You said I was wrong then, and now you're still saying I'm wrong,
but you never can prove I’m wrong! If you want to know more about it, find
it yourself, as I gave all the information to you maybe a month ago. You
said I was wrong then, and you are still saying I am wrong, so prove I’m
wrong! This is the last time I will talk to you about this, as I've been
through all this with you before. You know Gene, if I say black, you will
say white, if I say it's cloudy, you will say it's sunny! Enough is enough!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

That is not correct. I don't know what I'm not supposed to have answered.
I think I said awhile ago to try a reset first. The reset in Windows 10 is
a reset of Windows 10. You are confusing that with the reset, or whatever it
is called, that many computers offer with the original factory files for
everything stored on a different partition of the hard drive. That has
nothing to do with the reset in Windows 10 itself. That reset will put a
clean Windows 10 on the machine. The factory reset, if this computer has
one, will place the original operating system on the machine and whatever
else it came with.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?



Hi Keith,

Ok, I’ve said to myself I wouldn’t get involved with this meaning what Gene
recommended for you to do with your Laptop, and I see he hasn’t answered you
either. Now Keith, as I’ve discussed this reset feature with you before,
you still are willing to take a chance on using the reset feature, but one
more time, I strongly advise you not to use that reset feature, just for the
simple fact, that feature is a factory reset, and you need to remember your
Laptop came with Windows 8, so there for, remember your Laptop will just
revert back to Windows 8, so please give this some serious consideration
before doing that. Now, if you still want me to send you the instructions,
just let me know, and I will do so. As far as the safe mode, that will not
give you the option to reset your Laptop to Windows 10 or Windows 8. I know
you don’t want to hear this, and I don’t blame you, as I wouldn’t want to
hear this either, but I’m telling you the truth. I’m trying to spare you
from more problems than what you currently have, but it’s your choice.



Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







and how do I go about doing this?







Thanks







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:46 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







Why don't you use the reset option in Windows 10 which doesn't rely on safe
mode and will place a clean Windows 10 on the machine.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:33 PM
To: tech talk for the blind
Subject: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?


Hi, I was informed on this list that my installation of windows 10 is most
likely damaged (I have previously posted the slowness using jaws and windows
10 and th lag and what not on the system.)

I was told that if I enter safe mode, I can choose to either reinstall the
windows 8 that came pre-installed on the laptop, or reinstall windows 10,
since my cousin did the upgrade to windows 10 when microsoft was offering
the upgrade for free from windows 8 to windows 10.


My question is how do I enter safe mode on an HP laptop. I know that some
name brand systems have different safe mode keys taht you have to push and
hold while the system is booting up.

(I hae a netbook that uses the F8 key during startup to enter safe mode.

Anyone have a clue as to what I hold down on my HP laptop to enter safe
mode?

Many thanks

keith


Re: if you were getting a new computer.

John Holcomb II
 

They have minimum donation when you donate to Computers For The Blind.
Anyone who is getting a computer from there is just happy to have a computer at all.
I'd define typical user as the type that would be doing light tasks on a PC.
For those users (especially who can't afford to buy one themselves), 8GB and whatever is given to them from Computers For The Blind will be good enough for the light usage.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

I doubt that in general, having a slower drive and 8GB of RAM for the typical user results in stuttering speech and crashes. As to slow boot ups, I've already discussed that, While I see some messages complaining about this or that problem, such as stuttering speech or crashes, its hardly enough on lists like this, year after year, to draw such conclusions. And there are so many factors that can cause such problems that those small number of complaints I see can't be at all assumed to come from an underpowered machine.


I suspect that most blind people of the typical user variety, actually have 8GB of RAM. That's what a lot of computers come with and the majority of computer ;purchasers probably get what is offered.


From comments in this thread, it appears that a lot perhaps most computers now already come with solid state drives so that is no longer evidently much of an issue.


I can't say which chips people should get who are typical users but no one I've read as computer advisors and I haven't seen anyone on lists like this that I recall, have said that the typical user will benefit in any meaningful way by using 32GB of ram.


And the discussion we are having has implications for those who get computers from organizations like Computers For the Blind. I doubt those machines are at all the sort of 16GB of RAM, solid state drive machines being discussed here. I don't think people who want a computer but have limited means and find a new one difficult to afford should worry about getting one from such an organization unless they are more demanding users. If the organization in question has a lot of complaints about the machines they send out, that is a different question but for many people, not having a machine of the kind being discussed here isn't necessary, whether they would prefer one or not.


As I said, from comments in this thread, I'm willing to accept that 16GB of RAM may increase performance and of course an SSD does, but at the same time, I don't think the impression should be left that using a machine such as you might get from Computers For the Blind without an SSD or 16GB of ram is going to mean the typical user will have problems based on the lower specifications.


Gene

On 4/19/2021 4:53 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
And you see the people not doing the extra hundred dollars complaining
about stuttering audio, slow boots, hard drive and OS crashes and
general issues. Seriously buying a high quality pc, E.G, an R7/9,
16-32 gb ram, samsung SSD is one of the best quality investments youv
can make, and you probably could use it 6-7 years, because my 8 core
processor likely will stay current for at least that long.

On 4/19/2021 3:22 AM, chris judge wrote:
Well, I usually allow myself a new PC every five years or so whether
I need it or not. I'll never have to worry about the expense of
owning a vehicle. I use my PC constantly for work and pleasure and
the sake of a few hundred dollars really doesn't make much difference
to me, so I usually tend to go a bit high end.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
enes saribas
Sent: April 18, 2021 10:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

32 also makes a difference on extremely high core machines.

On 4/18/2021 6:12 PM, chris judge wrote:
I know Gene, you always argue this point. You also say solid state
hard drives don't make that much of a difference. I have used both
and in my experience they do.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: April 18, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

I doubt it. If you have 8gb and you are only using six, how is
having 10 more unused GB going to matter? If you have a race car or
a station wagon and you are driving on highways at about 65 or 70
miles an hour, what difference does it make whether your car's top
speed is 120 or 220 miles per hour.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

They sure do, and there is definitely a difference between 8 gig and
16. Few people who have experienced both will dispute that.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: April 18, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

Hi John,
I have to agree with you when you say SSDS do make a difference, as
I have a
519 SSD, and my Laptop boots on within a second! With my desktop
with
2 TBS HD it takes at least 3 minutes to boot up!
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

Yeah SSDs really do make a difference in my experience.
But having said that there's no real need for most to get more than
256GB.
Now there's one thing to keep in mind though.
If it’s a laptop, and everything is sottered onto the board, then no
upgrades would be possible, in that case if you can future proofing
wouldn't be a bad idea.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

I meant solid state drives. It is evidently incorrect to refer to
them as digital drives.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.



It was made by Intel I and is on the way out.

I forget what it is though.

Digital drive? I’ve never heard anyone call anything a digital drive
before.
What is that.

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Hi List,



I am not in the market for a new computer, knock on wood.

What is the new memory I hear of these days. It is called octane
memory.

Is this part of the ram, processor, of drive?



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
enes saribas
Sent: April 18, 2021 9:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





As I said though, programs are getting bigger. I'd go with at 16 gb
if budget allowed to be safe. But the 512 drives have more write
capacity before they have to be replaced, and also faster write
performance.



On 4/18/2021 9:04 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:



I don’t think most normal users would need 512GB.

IT really depends on what he is doing.

With read/write at 500 MB for a Sata-based SSD, he doesn’t need to
worry too much about that either.

I’d say a Core I5 would do it. AMD vs. intel either of these would
be fine.

We have no idea what kinda budget he is working with so THESE are
just some points to consider.

I do however agree with the 8GB ram.

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On
Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





At a bare minimum, go for gigabit ethernet options, 8 gb of dual
channel ram, an ssd of at least 512 gb, 1tb if you can aford it,
even if you don't use 1tb the 1tb drive has a much higher write
speed and endurance. A processor should be at least current gen 11th
gen intel or fifth gen AMD r5, don't getv stuff like
pentium/celeron/i3 processors.



On 4/15/2021 1:30 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



I will let you know as I find out.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Do you forsee yourself doing anything more then broadcasting?

I’d go with two sound cards for one thing.

Is there a price you have to contend with?

How are you storing your music files?

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On
Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 2:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting,
so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use
music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good
player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary
player, and have been using virtual recorder, but I’m open to
suggestions on any recorder you like.
How much memory etc. would you like? any of these thoughts are
appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021
on my new computer.[Jim


















































Creating a 24/7 Radio Stream on YouTube?

Merv Keck
 

There may be a group that is more suited for this question. If so I am not on it yet.
Currently the Church I am associated with as a Pastor of the prayer ministry has a stream that goes 24/7 on Live 355. They pay one monthly fee and everything is managed on the Live 365 servers. It is not operated like Legend or Mushroom or our familiar radio stations where we stream from our own computers or Spotify or a similar platform. Everything is uploaded to Live365 and managed right from the servers and royalties are paid taken care of no muss no fuss.
However, the Church would like to move to a more popular medium and they have chosen YouTube. They do not wish to worry about streaming locally from a PC or Mac. They wish to do it from YouTube the way they did it via Live 365.
We are currently rebuilding the Web Portal for the ministry and we just want to be able to reference the station on the site and the ministry app. And also the YouTube site and app as well.
Does anyone have any knowledge and or experience with YouTube radio or 24/7 streaming? Information is all I am seeking. I do not need anyone to build anything or sell me a service. I’m just looking for a resource at this time.
Thanks in advance.
Merv


Re: laptop

Monte Single
 

Pam, you can get an external cd/dvd drive for 20 or 30 bucks.  Just plug in the usb cable and you are in business.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: April 19, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Is this true?  That’s not something I would be happy about.  Pam.

 

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate  $107.

Marvin.

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Gene
 

I doubt that in general, having a slower drive and 8GB of RAM for the typical user results in stuttering speech and crashes.  As to slow boot ups, I've already discussed that,  While I see some messages complaining about this or that problem, such as stuttering speech or crashes, its hardly enough on lists like this, year after year, to draw such conclusions.  And there are so many factors that can cause such problems that those small number of complaints I see can't be at all assumed to come from an underpowered machine.


I suspect that most blind people of the typical user variety, actually have 8GB of RAM.  That's what a lot of computers come with and the majority of computer ;purchasers probably get what is offered.


From comments in this thread, it appears that a lot perhaps most computers now already come with solid state drives so that is no longer evidently much of an issue.


I can't say which chips people should get who are typical users but no one I've read as computer advisors and I haven't seen anyone on lists like this that I recall, have said that the typical user will benefit in any meaningful way by using 32GB of ram.


And the discussion we are having has implications for those who get computers from organizations like Computers For the Blind.  I doubt those machines are at all the sort of 16GB of RAM, solid state drive machines being discussed here.  I don't think people who want a computer but have limited means and find a new one difficult to afford should worry about getting one from such an organization unless they are more demanding users.  If the organization in question has a lot of complaints about the machines they send out, that is a different question but for many people, not having a machine of the kind being discussed here isn't necessary, whether they would prefer one or not.


As I said, from comments in this thread, I'm willing to accept that 16GB of RAM may increase performance and of course an SSD does, but at the same time, I don't think the impression should be left that using a machine such as you might get from Computers For the Blind without an SSD or 16GB of ram is going to mean the typical user will have problems based on the lower specifications.


Gene

On 4/19/2021 4:53 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
And you see the people not doing the extra hundred dollars complaining about stuttering audio, slow boots, hard drive and OS crashes and general issues.  Seriously buying a high quality pc, E.G, an R7/9, 16-32 gb ram, samsung SSD is one of the best quality investments youv can make, and  you probably could use it 6-7 years,  because my 8 core processor likely will stay current for at least that long.

On 4/19/2021 3:22 AM, chris judge wrote:
Well, I usually allow myself a new PC every five years or so whether I need it or not. I'll never have to worry about the expense of owning a vehicle. I use my PC constantly for work and pleasure and the sake of a few hundred dollars really doesn't make much difference to me, so I usually tend to go a bit high end.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: April 18, 2021 10:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

32 also makes a difference on extremely high core machines.

On 4/18/2021 6:12 PM, chris judge wrote:
I know Gene, you always argue this point. You also say solid state hard drives don't make that much of a difference. I have used both and in my experience they do.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: April 18, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

I doubt it.  If you have 8gb and you are only using six, how is having 10 more unused GB going to matter?  If you have a race car or a station wagon and you are driving on highways at about 65 or 70 miles an hour, what difference does it make whether your car's top speed is 120 or 220 miles per hour.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

They sure do, and there is definitely a difference between 8 gig and 16. Few people who have experienced both will dispute that.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: April 18, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

Hi John,
I have to agree with you when you say SSDS do make a difference, as I
have a
519 SSD, and my Laptop boots on within a second!  With my desktop with
2 TBS HD it takes at least 3 minutes to boot up!
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

Yeah SSDs really do make a difference in my experience.
But having said that there's no real need for most to get more than 256GB.
Now there's one thing to keep in mind though.
If it’s a laptop, and everything is sottered onto the board, then no
upgrades would be possible, in that case if you can  future proofing
wouldn't be a bad idea.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.

I meant solid state drives.  It is evidently incorrect to refer to
them as digital drives.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.



It was made by Intel I and is on the way out.

I forget what it is though.

Digital drive? I’ve never heard anyone call anything a digital drive before.
What is that.

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Hi List,



I am not in the market for a new computer, knock on wood.

What is the new memory I hear of these days.  It is called octane memory.

Is this part of the ram, processor, of drive?



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
enes saribas
Sent: April 18, 2021 9:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





As I said though, programs are getting bigger. I'd go with at 16 gb if
budget allowed to be safe. But the 512 drives have more  write
capacity before they have to be replaced, and also faster write performance.



On 4/18/2021 9:04 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:



I don’t think most normal users would need 512GB.

IT really depends on what he is doing.

With read/write at 500 MB for a Sata-based SSD, he doesn’t need to
worry too much about that either.

I’d say  a Core I5 would do it. AMD vs. intel either of these would be fine.

We have no idea what kinda budget he is working with so THESE are just
some points to consider.

I do however agree with the 8GB ram.

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





At a bare minimum, go for gigabit ethernet options, 8 gb of dual
channel ram, an ssd of at least 512 gb, 1tb if you can aford it, even
if you don't use 1tb the 1tb drive has a much higher write speed and
endurance. A processor should be at least current gen 11th gen intel
or fifth gen AMD r5, don't getv stuff like pentium/celeron/i3 processors.



On 4/15/2021 1:30 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



I will let you know as I find out.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:28 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Do you forsee yourself  doing anything more then broadcasting?

I’d go with two sound cards  for one  thing.

Is there a price you have to contend with?

How are you storing your music files?

John







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf
Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 2:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] if you were getting a new computer.





Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting,
so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use
music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player,
and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and
have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like.
How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are
appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on
my new computer.[Jim

















































Re: laptop

Monte Single
 

I Can't remember the last time I copied anything to a cd or dvd.
I mostly use thumb drives or s d cards.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 19, 2021 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

I doubt most people use DVDs or cds much anymore. People stream a lot of things they used to buy on DVDS and, as has been said, you can purchase external USB DVD drives.

There is a really nice and convenient way to get around not having a DVD if all you want to do is use it to install software if you have a computer that has one. You can also back up CDS or DVDS that contain software in this way.

Put a software disk, either CD or DVD in a machine that has a drive. Find the drive using Computer, then open the context menu, there will be an open option. Once you do that, you can copy the contents of the CD or DVD drive to the clip board and paste it wherever you want. I pasted the contents to an external drive, then I plugged the external drive into the computer I wanted to install the program on, and installed it from there. I kept the copies of the few CDS I might want to use in future and I no longer have to keep the CDS or DVDS if I don't want to.

To guard against loss of the disks or their destruction in some disaster, I back up the contents of the disks just as I back up anything I don't want to lose.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 9:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop


Is this true? That’s not something I would be happy about. Pam.

From: Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop


Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd.
And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive
built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no
dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable
internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate $107.

Marvin.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Monte Single
 

Hi Kieth,

 

I have not been following this thread,  but I have heard, off and on,  that you can still upgrade  from windows 7 or 8   to win 10If you are using a screen reader.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: April 19, 2021 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

 

thanks gene, I'll check it out.  My wife is going on disability so it's not like I can get her to use her prize points to purchase a new computer again.  Figure I'll work on this and if I need to,  I'll just have to save my pennies and buy a copy of windows 10 to install or upgrade the windows 8 OS.  Really don't want to do so considiering my wife will not have health insurance for the next year until medicare kicks in for her but that is our cross to bear.

 

Thank for digging this info out from the internet.

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

 

I did a bit of looking around and I didn't find anything specifically
discussing what we are discussing.  I did find an article telling you how to
reset Windows 10 and I am giving that link below.  But we are discussing
restoring Windows 10 on a computer that originally had another operating
system on it.  Restoring Windows 10 does just that.  But if I upgraded or
installed Windows 10 on my laptop, as far as I know, nothing would be done
to get rid of the data on the hidden partition my computer has to restore it
to factory defaults, in other words, to restore it to its factory state, as
it left the factory with Windows 7 and whatever else was placed on the
computer at the factory by the manufacturer.  Here are the instructions for
doing so on my computer.  As you will see, they have nothing to do with
booting into Windows or restoring a clean copy of a new or upgraded operting
system.  As you will also see from the article I linked to below, you can
reset Windows 10 within Windows 10 which will place a clean copy on your
machine.

Remember, instructions for doing what is described below in this manual
excerpt vary depending on brand and model of machine so check to see what
your machine's instructions are.  I am reproducing these instructions to
demonstrate what I am saying, not to provide instructions for how you do
this on your computer.

From my Toshiba manual:
To recover the original factory image using the utilities on your
computer’s internal storage drive:

1
Make sure the computer is turned off.

2
Press and hold the 0 (zero) key on your keyboard while
powering on the computer.

3
If your system offers a choice of Windows® 7 32-bit or 64-bit
operating system, select one at this time. If not, skip to step 4.

4
A warning screen appears, stating that when the recovery is

executed all data will be deleted and rewritten. Click Yes to

continue.

5
When the Toshiba Recovery Wizard opens and the Selecting a
process screen displays, select Recovery of Factory Default
Software and then click Next.

6 The Recovery of Factory Default Software screen appears.
Select Recover to out-of-box state.

7 Click Next.

A confirmation message displays reminding you that all data
will be lost during the recovery process. Be sure to save your
work to external media before proceeding (see “Backing up
your work” on page 105).

8 Click Next to begin the recovery.

When the process is complete, a message displays indicating
that the internal storage drive has been recovered.

9 Press any key on the keyboard to restart the computer.

the link below discusses how to reset Windows 10 from within your
installation of Windows 10.  It is completely different from what was
described above.
https://www.theverge.com/21264104/windows-10-reset-os-reboot-troubleshoot-microsoft

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I don't remember if or what I said when he asked that.  I don't have Windows
10.  I don't know how you do a Windows 10 reset.  As I recall, another list
member described in detail how it is done.  Whether I responded and said I
don't know how it is done, I don't recall.  I may not have either as an
oversight or because I saw the explanation from someone else on the list so
I didn't need to respond.

I'm right and yet, you keep insisting I'm not.  Prove it?  Do a Google
search on Windows 10 reset and learn about it.  I don't thing the feature
that a lot of computers have that restores the computer to its factory state
is even called reset and it is not initiated from within Windows.  You
initiate it before Windows boots.  the procedure is initiated differently on
different brands and models of computer.  Reset was one of the new features
in Windows 10 and it received publicity when Windows 10 came out because it
allows you to put a clean copy of Windows 10 on the machine.  You shouldn't
have difficulty finding information about it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Gene,
I’m not in any mood to debate with you especially regarding the reset
feature, as we went through all that maybe a month ago.  What I meant when I
said you didn't answer Keith was you told him to do a reset, and that would
put a fresh copy of Windows 10 on his PC, and he replied by asking you how
can he do that, and you never replied.  This is correct about the reset
feature. You said I was wrong then, and now you're still saying I'm wrong,
but you never can prove I’m wrong!  If you want to know more about it, find
it yourself, as I gave all the information to you maybe a month ago.  You
said I was wrong then, and you are still saying I am wrong, so prove I’m
wrong!  This is the last time I will talk to you about this, as I've been
through all this with you before.  You know Gene, if I say black, you will
say white, if I say it's cloudy, you will say it's sunny!  Enough is enough!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

That is not correct.  I don't know what I'm not supposed to have answered.
I think I said awhile ago to try a reset first.  The reset in Windows 10 is
a reset of Windows 10. You are confusing that with the reset, or whatever it
is called, that many computers offer with the original factory files for
everything stored on a different partition of the hard drive.  That has
nothing to do with the reset in Windows 10 itself.  That reset will put a
clean Windows 10 on the machine.  The factory reset, if this computer has
one, will place the original operating system on the machine and whatever
else it came with.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?



Hi Keith,

Ok, I’ve said to myself I wouldn’t get involved with this meaning what Gene
recommended for you to do with your Laptop, and I see he hasn’t answered you
either.  Now Keith, as I’ve discussed this reset feature with you before,
you still are willing to take a chance on using the reset feature, but one
more time, I strongly advise you not to use that reset feature, just for the
simple fact, that feature is a factory reset, and you need to remember your
Laptop came with Windows 8, so there for, remember your Laptop will just
revert back to Windows 8, so please give this some serious consideration
before doing that.  Now, if you still want me to send you the instructions,
just let me know, and I will do so.  As far as the safe mode, that will not
give you the option to reset your Laptop to Windows 10 or Windows 8.  I know
you don’t want to hear this, and I don’t blame you, as I wouldn’t want to
hear this either, but I’m telling you the truth.  I’m trying to spare you
from more problems than what you currently have, but it’s your choice.



Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







and how do I go about doing this?







Thanks







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:46 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







Why don't you use the reset option in Windows 10 which doesn't rely on safe
mode and will place a clean Windows 10 on the machine.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:33 PM
To: tech talk for the blind
Subject: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?


Hi, I was informed on this list that my installation of windows 10 is most
likely damaged (I have previously posted the slowness using jaws and windows
10 and th lag and what not on the system.)

I was told that if I enter safe mode, I can choose to either  reinstall the
windows 8 that came pre-installed on the laptop, or reinstall windows 10,
since my cousin did the upgrade to windows 10 when microsoft was offering
the upgrade for free from windows 8 to windows 10.


My question is how do I enter safe mode on an HP laptop.  I know that some
name brand systems have different safe mode keys taht you have to push and
hold while the system is booting up.

(I hae a netbook that uses the F8 key during startup to enter safe mode.

Anyone have a clue as to what I hold down on my HP laptop to enter  safe
mode?

Many thanks

keith


























Re: HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Keith S
 


thanks Austin.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

so to do a reset, and no that wont revert you back to windows 8.
first things first, backup all the data you have on c drive.
next, make sure that you ave activation codes for any programs that
require them as the reset will remove all programs, accept the apps
that came with windows.
after you are sure that you have everything saved.
you press windows and i.
press tab once.
go to update and security which is right at the end of the list, so
pressing the end key if you have 1 will directly take you there.
then go to recovery.
and click on reset this pc.
the pc will reboot 2 3 times, you wont have jaws or any screen reader,
but after the pc has rebooted for the first time, just wait for 1 or 2
minutes and press control windows enter, this will launch narrator and
it will give you progress about what is happening.
after resetting you may have to enter microsoft account.
if you dont want to do this, dont connect to wifi or internet via cable.
tell it i dont have internet and continue with limited setup.
after creating a local account and finishing setup, then connect to
internet and again it will ask you to enter a microsoft account, tell
it i will do this later and click on complete setup.
now you will have to reinstall all programs from scratch.

On 4/19/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I don't remember if or what I said when he asked that.  I don't have Windows
>
> 10.  I don't know how you do a Windows 10 reset.  As I recall, another list
>
> member described in detail how it is done.  Whether I responded and said I
> don't know how it is done, I don't recall.  I may not have either as an
> oversight or because I saw the explanation from someone else on the list so
>
> I didn't need to respond.
>
> I'm right and yet, you keep insisting I'm not.  Prove it?  Do a Google
> search on Windows 10 reset and learn about it.  I don't thing the feature
> that a lot of computers have that restores the computer to its factory state
>
> is even called reset and it is not initiated from within Windows.  You
> initiate it before Windows boots.  the procedure is initiated differently on
>
> different brands and models of computer.  Reset was one of the new features
>
> in Windows 10 and it received publicity when Windows 10 came out because it
>
> allows you to put a clean copy of Windows 10 on the machine.  You shouldn't
>
> have difficulty finding information about it.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janet
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:13 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
> Gene,
> I’m not in any mood to debate with you especially regarding the reset
> feature, as we went through all that maybe a month ago.  What I meant when I
>
> said you didn't answer Keith was you told him to do a reset, and that would
>
> put a fresh copy of Windows 10 on his PC, and he replied by asking you how
> can he do that, and you never replied.  This is correct about the reset
> feature. You said I was wrong then, and now you're still saying I'm wrong,
> but you never can prove I’m wrong!  If you want to know more about it, find
>
> it yourself, as I gave all the information to you maybe a month ago.  You
> said I was wrong then, and you are still saying I am wrong, so prove I’m
> wrong!  This is the last time I will talk to you about this, as I've been
> through all this with you before.  You know Gene, if I say black, you will
> say white, if I say it's cloudy, you will say it's sunny!  Enough is
> enough!
>
> Janet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>
> Gene
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
> That is not correct.  I don't know what I'm not supposed to have answered.
> I think I said awhile ago to try a reset first.  The reset in Windows 10 is
> a reset of Windows 10. You are confusing that with the reset, or whatever
> it
> is called, that many computers offer with the original factory files for
> everything stored on a different partition of the hard drive.  That has
> nothing to do with the reset in Windows 10 itself.  That reset will put a
> clean Windows 10 on the machine.  The factory reset, if this computer has
> one, will place the original operating system on the machine and whatever
> else it came with.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janet
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:12 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
>
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Ok, I’ve said to myself I wouldn’t get involved with this meaning what Gene
> recommended for you to do with your Laptop, and I see he hasn’t answered
> you
> either.  Now Keith, as I’ve discussed this reset feature with you before,
> you still are willing to take a chance on using the reset feature, but one
> more time, I strongly advise you not to use that reset feature, just for
> the
> simple fact, that feature is a factory reset, and you need to remember your
> Laptop came with Windows 8, so there for, remember your Laptop will just
> revert back to Windows 8, so please give this some serious consideration
> before doing that.  Now, if you still want me to send you the instructions,
> just let me know, and I will do so.  As far as the safe mode, that will not
> give you the option to reset your Laptop to Windows 10 or Windows 8.  I
> know
> you don’t want to hear this, and I don’t blame you, as I wouldn’t want to
> hear this either, but I’m telling you the truth.  I’m trying to spare you
> from more problems than what you currently have, but it’s your choice.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Keith S
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:48 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and how do I go about doing this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> From: Gene
>
>
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>
>
>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:46 PM
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why don't you use the reset option in Windows 10 which doesn't rely on safe
> mode and will place a clean Windows 10 on the machine.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith S
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:33 PM
> To: tech talk for the blind
> Subject: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?
>
>
> Hi, I was informed on this list that my installation of windows 10 is most
> likely damaged (I have previously posted the slowness using jaws and
> windows
> 10 and th lag and what not on the system.)
>
> I was told that if I enter safe mode, I can choose to either  reinstall the
> windows 8 that came pre-installed on the laptop, or reinstall windows 10,
> since my cousin did the upgrade to windows 10 when microsoft was offering
> the upgrade for free from windows 8 to windows 10.
>
>
> My question is how do I enter safe mode on an HP laptop.  I know that some
> name brand systems have different safe mode keys taht you have to push and
> hold while the system is booting up.
>
> (I hae a netbook that uses the F8 key during startup to enter safe mode.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what I hold down on my HP laptop to enter  safe
> mode?
>
> Many thanks
>
> keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Keith S
 


thanks gene, I'll check it out.  My wife is going on disability so it's not like I can get her to use her prize points to purchase a new computer again.  Figure I'll work on this and if I need to,  I'll just have to save my pennies and buy a copy of windows 10 to install or upgrade the windows 8 OS.  Really don't want to do so considiering my wife will not have health insurance for the next year until medicare kicks in for her but that is our cross to bear.
 
Thank for digging this info out from the internet.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I did a bit of looking around and I didn't find anything specifically
discussing what we are discussing.  I did find an article telling you how to
reset Windows 10 and I am giving that link below.  But we are discussing
restoring Windows 10 on a computer that originally had another operating
system on it.  Restoring Windows 10 does just that.  But if I upgraded or
installed Windows 10 on my laptop, as far as I know, nothing would be done
to get rid of the data on the hidden partition my computer has to restore it
to factory defaults, in other words, to restore it to its factory state, as
it left the factory with Windows 7 and whatever else was placed on the
computer at the factory by the manufacturer.  Here are the instructions for
doing so on my computer.  As you will see, they have nothing to do with
booting into Windows or restoring a clean copy of a new or upgraded operting
system.  As you will also see from the article I linked to below, you can
reset Windows 10 within Windows 10 which will place a clean copy on your
machine.

Remember, instructions for doing what is described below in this manual
excerpt vary depending on brand and model of machine so check to see what
your machine's instructions are.  I am reproducing these instructions to
demonstrate what I am saying, not to provide instructions for how you do
this on your computer.

From my Toshiba manual:
To recover the original factory image using the utilities on your
computer’s internal storage drive:

1
Make sure the computer is turned off.

2
Press and hold the 0 (zero) key on your keyboard while
powering on the computer.

3
If your system offers a choice of Windows® 7 32-bit or 64-bit
operating system, select one at this time. If not, skip to step 4.

4
A warning screen appears, stating that when the recovery is

executed all data will be deleted and rewritten. Click Yes to

continue.

5
When the Toshiba Recovery Wizard opens and the Selecting a
process screen displays, select Recovery of Factory Default
Software and then click Next.

6 The Recovery of Factory Default Software screen appears.
Select Recover to out-of-box state.

7 Click Next.

A confirmation message displays reminding you that all data
will be lost during the recovery process. Be sure to save your
work to external media before proceeding (see “Backing up
your work” on page 105).

8 Click Next to begin the recovery.

When the process is complete, a message displays indicating
that the internal storage drive has been recovered.

9 Press any key on the keyboard to restart the computer.

the link below discusses how to reset Windows 10 from within your
installation of Windows 10.  It is completely different from what was
described above.
https://www.theverge.com/21264104/windows-10-reset-os-reboot-troubleshoot-microsoft

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I don't remember if or what I said when he asked that.  I don't have Windows
10.  I don't know how you do a Windows 10 reset.  As I recall, another list
member described in detail how it is done.  Whether I responded and said I
don't know how it is done, I don't recall.  I may not have either as an
oversight or because I saw the explanation from someone else on the list so
I didn't need to respond.

I'm right and yet, you keep insisting I'm not.  Prove it?  Do a Google
search on Windows 10 reset and learn about it.  I don't thing the feature
that a lot of computers have that restores the computer to its factory state
is even called reset and it is not initiated from within Windows.  You
initiate it before Windows boots.  the procedure is initiated differently on
different brands and models of computer.  Reset was one of the new features
in Windows 10 and it received publicity when Windows 10 came out because it
allows you to put a clean copy of Windows 10 on the machine.  You shouldn't
have difficulty finding information about it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Gene,
I’m not in any mood to debate with you especially regarding the reset
feature, as we went through all that maybe a month ago.  What I meant when I
said you didn't answer Keith was you told him to do a reset, and that would
put a fresh copy of Windows 10 on his PC, and he replied by asking you how
can he do that, and you never replied.  This is correct about the reset
feature. You said I was wrong then, and now you're still saying I'm wrong,
but you never can prove I’m wrong!  If you want to know more about it, find
it yourself, as I gave all the information to you maybe a month ago.  You
said I was wrong then, and you are still saying I am wrong, so prove I’m
wrong!  This is the last time I will talk to you about this, as I've been
through all this with you before.  You know Gene, if I say black, you will
say white, if I say it's cloudy, you will say it's sunny!  Enough is enough!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

That is not correct.  I don't know what I'm not supposed to have answered.
I think I said awhile ago to try a reset first.  The reset in Windows 10 is
a reset of Windows 10. You are confusing that with the reset, or whatever it
is called, that many computers offer with the original factory files for
everything stored on a different partition of the hard drive.  That has
nothing to do with the reset in Windows 10 itself.  That reset will put a
clean Windows 10 on the machine.  The factory reset, if this computer has
one, will place the original operating system on the machine and whatever
else it came with.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?



Hi Keith,

Ok, I’ve said to myself I wouldn’t get involved with this meaning what Gene
recommended for you to do with your Laptop, and I see he hasn’t answered you
either.  Now Keith, as I’ve discussed this reset feature with you before,
you still are willing to take a chance on using the reset feature, but one
more time, I strongly advise you not to use that reset feature, just for the
simple fact, that feature is a factory reset, and you need to remember your
Laptop came with Windows 8, so there for, remember your Laptop will just
revert back to Windows 8, so please give this some serious consideration
before doing that.  Now, if you still want me to send you the instructions,
just let me know, and I will do so.  As far as the safe mode, that will not
give you the option to reset your Laptop to Windows 10 or Windows 8.  I know
you don’t want to hear this, and I don’t blame you, as I wouldn’t want to
hear this either, but I’m telling you the truth.  I’m trying to spare you
from more problems than what you currently have, but it’s your choice.



Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







and how do I go about doing this?







Thanks







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:46 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







Why don't you use the reset option in Windows 10 which doesn't rely on safe
mode and will place a clean Windows 10 on the machine.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:33 PM
To: tech talk for the blind
Subject: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?


Hi, I was informed on this list that my installation of windows 10 is most
likely damaged (I have previously posted the slowness using jaws and windows
10 and th lag and what not on the system.)

I was told that if I enter safe mode, I can choose to either  reinstall the
windows 8 that came pre-installed on the laptop, or reinstall windows 10,
since my cousin did the upgrade to windows 10 when microsoft was offering
the upgrade for free from windows 8 to windows 10.


My question is how do I enter safe mode on an HP laptop.  I know that some
name brand systems have different safe mode keys taht you have to push and
hold while the system is booting up.

(I hae a netbook that uses the F8 key during startup to enter safe mode.

Anyone have a clue as to what I hold down on my HP laptop to enter  safe
mode?

Many thanks

keith



























Re: HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Keith S
 


jean did say that he does not have windows 10 and that someone else on the list with windows 10 could possibly help.
 
Didn't mean to start or open any old arguements or disagreements.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

I don't remember if or what I said when he asked that.  I don't have Windows
10.  I don't know how you do a Windows 10 reset.  As I recall, another list
member described in detail how it is done.  Whether I responded and said I
don't know how it is done, I don't recall.  I may not have either as an
oversight or because I saw the explanation from someone else on the list so
I didn't need to respond.

I'm right and yet, you keep insisting I'm not.  Prove it?  Do a Google
search on Windows 10 reset and learn about it.  I don't thing the feature
that a lot of computers have that restores the computer to its factory state
is even called reset and it is not initiated from within Windows.  You
initiate it before Windows boots.  the procedure is initiated differently on
different brands and models of computer.  Reset was one of the new features
in Windows 10 and it received publicity when Windows 10 came out because it
allows you to put a clean copy of Windows 10 on the machine.  You shouldn't
have difficulty finding information about it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

Gene,
I’m not in any mood to debate with you especially regarding the reset
feature, as we went through all that maybe a month ago.  What I meant when I
said you didn't answer Keith was you told him to do a reset, and that would
put a fresh copy of Windows 10 on his PC, and he replied by asking you how
can he do that, and you never replied.  This is correct about the reset
feature. You said I was wrong then, and now you're still saying I'm wrong,
but you never can prove I’m wrong!  If you want to know more about it, find
it yourself, as I gave all the information to you maybe a month ago.  You
said I was wrong then, and you are still saying I am wrong, so prove I’m
wrong!  This is the last time I will talk to you about this, as I've been
through all this with you before.  You know Gene, if I say black, you will
say white, if I say it's cloudy, you will say it's sunny!  Enough is enough!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?

That is not correct.  I don't know what I'm not supposed to have answered.
I think I said awhile ago to try a reset first.  The reset in Windows 10 is
a reset of Windows 10. You are confusing that with the reset, or whatever it
is called, that many computers offer with the original factory files for
everything stored on a different partition of the hard drive.  That has
nothing to do with the reset in Windows 10 itself.  That reset will put a
clean Windows 10 on the machine.  The factory reset, if this computer has
one, will place the original operating system on the machine and whatever
else it came with.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?



Hi Keith,

Ok, I’ve said to myself I wouldn’t get involved with this meaning what Gene
recommended for you to do with your Laptop, and I see he hasn’t answered you
either.  Now Keith, as I’ve discussed this reset feature with you before,
you still are willing to take a chance on using the reset feature, but one
more time, I strongly advise you not to use that reset feature, just for the
simple fact, that feature is a factory reset, and you need to remember your
Laptop came with Windows 8, so there for, remember your Laptop will just
revert back to Windows 8, so please give this some serious consideration
before doing that.  Now, if you still want me to send you the instructions,
just let me know, and I will do so.  As far as the safe mode, that will not
give you the option to reset your Laptop to Windows 10 or Windows 8.  I know
you don’t want to hear this, and I don’t blame you, as I wouldn’t want to
hear this either, but I’m telling you the truth.  I’m trying to spare you
from more problems than what you currently have, but it’s your choice.



Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







and how do I go about doing this?







Thanks







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:46 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?







Why don't you use the reset option in Windows 10 which doesn't rely on safe
mode and will place a clean Windows 10 on the machine.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:33 PM
To: tech talk for the blind
Subject: [TechTalk] HP laptop : How to enter safe mode?


Hi, I was informed on this list that my installation of windows 10 is most
likely damaged (I have previously posted the slowness using jaws and windows
10 and th lag and what not on the system.)

I was told that if I enter safe mode, I can choose to either  reinstall the
windows 8 that came pre-installed on the laptop, or reinstall windows 10,
since my cousin did the upgrade to windows 10 when microsoft was offering
the upgrade for free from windows 8 to windows 10.


My question is how do I enter safe mode on an HP laptop.  I know that some
name brand systems have different safe mode keys taht you have to push and
hold while the system is booting up.

(I hae a netbook that uses the F8 key during startup to enter safe mode.

Anyone have a clue as to what I hold down on my HP laptop to enter  safe
mode?

Many thanks

keith





























Re: laptop

Gene
 

I doubt most people use DVDs or cds much anymore. People stream a lot of things they used to buy on DVDS and, as has been said, you can purchase external USB DVD drives.

There is a really nice and convenient way to get around not having a DVD if all you want to do is use it to install software if you have a computer that has one. You can also back up CDS or DVDS that contain software in this way.

Put a software disk, either CD or DVD in a machine that has a drive. Find the drive using Computer, then open the context menu, there will be an open option. Once you do that, you can copy the contents of the CD or DVD drive to the clip board and paste it wherever you want. I pasted the contents to an external drive, then I plugged the external drive into the computer I wanted to install the program on, and installed it from there. I kept the copies of the few CDS I might want to use in future and I no longer have to keep the CDS or DVDS if I don't want to.

To guard against loss of the disks or their destruction in some disaster, I back up the contents of the disks just as I back up anything I don't want to lose.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 9:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop


Is this true? That’s not something I would be happy about. Pam.

From: Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop


Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate $107.

Marvin.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: laptop

John Holcomb II
 

So I could put Linux?

Maybe X Ubuntu?

Would this tdistro even  support32-bit legacy hardwhere like this?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:25 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

You are running a machine series that I used to own. Its only 100mbps ethernet port lol...

 

I got a lower end machine, without those serial ports, still got a DVD burner, 8gb of ram (I max it out already), I upgraded 256gb to 640gb harddrive.

Its running windows 7 though.

Works fine, I can surf net on it which its the only thing I does with it.

Even if I would get the latest OS, I will not run windows 10 on it. too much work to get the driver to get going. I done once, last year on one of the computer in the office. 

in the end, i load up linux on it and put whatever gui for the user to use it as the day to day processing unit. still alive as we speak.

 

Too much limitation to get an old machine to work.

 

If you don't want, run a NAS on it. linux base, and you can put multiple drives on them external or internal and you can put on the network for file sharing. i done for a customer previously.

if it die, thats all it can do. surfing net will be a pain. you can listen to music on it, watch youtube... simple stuff. opening document, edit a few page but if you want to to do more, then it will be too slow.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 22:12, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Lmao um. Yeah back then.

Core duo, 4GB of DDR2 ram. (it had 2GB and I upgraded it to the fastest speed possible and the most amount it’d support in 2011.

WiFi g

DVD-RW

Still has a 56K modem and parallel port! Serial too if I’m remembering correctly.

Has ethernet (though I’m not sure if its 10, 100 or 1000.

It’s a Dell Inspirine E-1705

I actually replaced the still working original 80GB SATA 2 drive with an SATA-based SSD that I believe is 200 GB and tried to put Windows 10 on it.

No go.

I’d love to put a lightweight OS on it but not sure what or how.

All of the hardware works perfectly!

If you’ve got any ideas, let me know!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 4:52 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Good machine.



Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 10:52, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Hey there,

I have a laptop from 2006 which started off with XP and then I  put 7 on it.

The hardwhere still works! But 10 won’t run on it.

The only thing I could possibly do is  put Linux on it.

But the Linux would have to support 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Hi, my first laptop a satellite a 300 toshiba lasted for 6 years, then my mom had it for another 4 years, running windows xp or vista. I think. And second machine, lasted almost 5 years, and was windows 7 pro 64 bit with a dvd drive. Gave it to a friend, who is a sighted programmer, and then he put in a new ssd for his mom,  windows 10. Now had to get a new Samsung external ssd drive 500 gb, as my 1 tb Toshiba external  drive, was about to die. Able to copy all files from that. And so got a new assus vivo book with a ssd. First time using that and yes, takes about 30 secs to power up and hear the windows chime and the login screen with jaws. Do have 8 gb ram, do have a spare 8 gb two spare 4 gb slots. Could have used 16 gb, when doing my network course and ran out of memory for running multiple virtual machines. And like to get a new laptop every 6 to 7 years or 5 years. So had this assus a couple of years. Thanks.

Ps: I 3 7 dual quad or quad core, up to 8cores. 2.3 ghz processor, 8 gb ram, 500 gb ssd. One usb 3, two usb 2 ports. 15.inch passive colour I think, or maybe active colour. Not sure. Standard keyboard, built in web cam, mike. Surround sound and using the real tech surround sound app. Two speakers. No card reader.

A good machine.

Excellent sound. And do have windows 10 pro 64 bit, it came with windows 10 home 64 bit 1809. So upgraded it a few times.

Marvin. .


Re: laptop

Loy
 


When I got  my laptop without a DVD drive, I purchased one and keep it in my laptop case to use when I need it. This was last May and so far I haven't had a need to use it.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

Is this true?  That’s not something I would be happy about.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop
 

Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate  $107.

Marvin.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: laptop

Thomas N. Chan
 

You are running a machine series that I used to own. Its only 100mbps ethernet port lol...

I got a lower end machine, without those serial ports, still got a DVD burner, 8gb of ram (I max it out already), I upgraded 256gb to 640gb harddrive.
Its running windows 7 though.
Works fine, I can surf net on it which its the only thing I does with it.
Even if I would get the latest OS, I will not run windows 10 on it. too much work to get the driver to get going. I done once, last year on one of the computer in the office. 
in the end, i load up linux on it and put whatever gui for the user to use it as the day to day processing unit. still alive as we speak.

Too much limitation to get an old machine to work.

If you don't want, run a NAS on it. linux base, and you can put multiple drives on them external or internal and you can put on the network for file sharing. i done for a customer previously.
if it die, thats all it can do. surfing net will be a pain. you can listen to music on it, watch youtube... simple stuff. opening document, edit a few page but if you want to to do more, then it will be too slow.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 22:12, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Lmao um. Yeah back then.

Core duo, 4GB of DDR2 ram. (it had 2GB and I upgraded it to the fastest speed possible and the most amount it’d support in 2011.

WiFi g

DVD-RW

Still has a 56K modem and parallel port! Serial too if I’m remembering correctly.

Has ethernet (though I’m not sure if its 10, 100 or 1000.

It’s a Dell Inspirine E-1705

I actually replaced the still working original 80GB SATA 2 drive with an SATA-based SSD that I believe is 200 GB and tried to put Windows 10 on it.

No go.

I’d love to put a lightweight OS on it but not sure what or how.

All of the hardware works perfectly!

If you’ve got any ideas, let me know!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 4:52 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Good machine.



Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 10:52, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

Hey there,

I have a laptop from 2006 which started off with XP and then I  put 7 on it.

The hardwhere still works! But 10 won’t run on it.

The only thing I could possibly do is  put Linux on it.

But the Linux would have to support 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop

 

Hi, my first laptop a satellite a 300 toshiba lasted for 6 years, then my mom had it for another 4 years, running windows xp or vista. I think. And second machine, lasted almost 5 years, and was windows 7 pro 64 bit with a dvd drive. Gave it to a friend, who is a sighted programmer, and then he put in a new ssd for his mom,  windows 10. Now had to get a new Samsung external ssd drive 500 gb, as my 1 tb Toshiba external  drive, was about to die. Able to copy all files from that. And so got a new assus vivo book with a ssd. First time using that and yes, takes about 30 secs to power up and hear the windows chime and the login screen with jaws. Do have 8 gb ram, do have a spare 8 gb two spare 4 gb slots. Could have used 16 gb, when doing my network course and ran out of memory for running multiple virtual machines. And like to get a new laptop every 6 to 7 years or 5 years. So had this assus a couple of years. Thanks.

Ps: I 3 7 dual quad or quad core, up to 8cores. 2.3 ghz processor, 8 gb ram, 500 gb ssd. One usb 3, two usb 2 ports. 15.inch passive colour I think, or maybe active colour. Not sure. Standard keyboard, built in web cam, mike. Surround sound and using the real tech surround sound app. Two speakers. No card reader.

A good machine.

Excellent sound. And do have windows 10 pro 64 bit, it came with windows 10 home 64 bit 1809. So upgraded it a few times.

Marvin. .


Re: laptop

Loy
 


That is true, however if you really need a CD/DVD drive you can purchase one for about $20 and attached by USB.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop

Is this true?  That’s not something I would be happy about.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] laptop
 

Hi. I would get 16 gb or 32 gb if you can afford it. Try a 1 or 2 tb ssd. And maybe get a 1 or 2 tb ssd external drive. You cannot get a dvd drive built in any more. Hp, Lenovo, assus, del, acer, sells only laptops with no dvd or cd drive. But most people just download if they have a fast stable internet connection.

Also got jaws 2012, latest nvda.

Marvin.

Ps: saw on another list a 4 tb normal external drive, seegate  $107.

Marvin.


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