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Re: T-Bird & Search
Gene
I have no idea if this will do what you want but press alt and type t for
tools.
Up arrow to options and press enter.
Tab to an item that says something like, when the program runs, show the
start page in the message area. If it is checked, uncheck it with the
space bar.
Whether the search is showing or not, it evidently makes no difference that
means anything. When the program runs, you aren’t in the message list or
in the folders tree view and you have to do something to move there. there
are different ways to move to what you want. I press f6 twice to get to
the message list. the first press gets me to the folders treeview, the
second push gets me to the message list.
I can also shift tab once to get to the message list. I use f6 just
because that is the first way I started moving to the message list and it had
become a bit of a habit before I experimented. I also like using f6
because it is such a common way of moving from one part of the same window to
another part.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hi All,
I'm a new T-Bird user and I'm wondering if I
can get rid of that search field when I tab in my In-box? When I open
T-Bird, and I'm on the In-box tab, then tab 1 time I get a search edit control +
K, message, then if I tab 1 more time I'm in my message list. So, how if I
can, get rid of or close that search field? I'm using the portable version
78.... Thanks much.
Stay safe and take care.
Mike.
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Re: looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for
Monte Single
It would appear all them good deals got gobbled up.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: May 22, 2021 5:52 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for I know. I looked a week ago and found nothing either. Chris Judge -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: May 21, 2021 9:11 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Hi Chris, Yes, the versionof m s office 2016 I purchased a couple years ago includes outlook. Today when I looked on Amazon.ca I did not see any versions of m s office for that or a similar price. As I wrote in my earlier message, I looked only at the first 10 to 20 results using the search term; M s office 2019 At that kind of saving, it is worth a much more thorough search. Also, the home/student version of office usually does not include outlook andprobably some other office components. Now, what you find on e bay can be quite different. I would expect that office 2022 should be out soon. Also, micro soft is definitely nudging people toward the 360 annual subscription. This annual subscription looks like agood deal for a family type situation, but for a single user, a one-time purchase is better. Of course, this only applies if you care about a hundred bucks here or ther. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: May 21, 2021 4:40 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Monte, does the 30 dollar version include outlook? If so I might dump the office 365 subscription and go that route. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: May 21, 2021 3:28 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for I purchased my copy of m s office pro 2016 from Amazon. Today I would get the 2019 version, maybe there will be a 2022 soon. It is a 1 time purchase. If you check out the results from a search on amazon, you can find something cheap like 30 bucks. It's legal. I even got m s to help me install it. With these low priced editions, you do not get a dvd,, you get a product key. Then you must go to the m s store and download the version you purchased. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham Sent: May 21, 2021 11:44 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Hi all, A while back I started looking for ms Office but all I found online was versions that it looked like I'd have to pay a yearly subscription for. Are there versions of ms Office that I can get online and only have to pay once for, and if so what's the best place to look? Thanks. Troy
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T-Bird & Search
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
Hi All,
I'm a new T-Bird user and I'm wondering if I
can get rid of that search field when I tab in my In-box? When I open
T-Bird, and I'm on the In-box tab, then tab 1 time I get a search edit control +
K, message, then if I tab 1 more time I'm in my message list. So, how if I
can, get rid of or close that search field? I'm using the portable
version 78.... Thanks much.
Stay safe and take care.
Mike.
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Re: amazon search
Gene
On reasonably sophisticated sites, searches should be sophisticated enough
not to need qquotes in most cases. I didn’t use quotes when I tried
searching for what is specified on the site and the search worked as I thought
it probably would, showing results for what I wrote without usingg quotes.
What might the problem be? I’m not sure but the first thing I would
do would be to try another browser in case something, who knows what, went wrong
with this one, addware, some sort of other malware that shows lots of results
that aren’t wanted, possibly some thing else I don’t know about.
But places like Amazon and Google are consumer products and design search
to work well when used by people who know almost nothing about how to
search. This ability has been an area of concentration and improvement
over a good while and is essential for such consumer products.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hi
all, Put your search term in quotes. That will force the search engine to look for it as a single string. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@... Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: amazon search
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
Put your search term in quotes. That will force the search engine to look for it as a single string. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: thunder bird not accessible
Ann Parsons
Morning all,
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Heather, this message is not helpful. All it does is bring up a bunch of questions. Now, I will preface this here message by stating that I don't use Thunderbird. However, the questions apply whenever the general catch term "inaccessible" is used. Here are the questions. First, what is the program doing or not doing which makes it unusable for you? Next, What is it that you want to do which you cannot do now? Third, what error messages or status messages are you getting? What is the computer telling you? Finally, have you looked in the current documentation? Have the commands changed? Have the ways to access the aspects of the program changed? Have you read the "What's New?" text file? Before we can help with the so-called inaccessibility problem, these questions need to be answered. I say so-called because the line between inaccessibility and user ignorance is very thin. This is particularly true of a program which has been a model for accessibility for years and is used by thousands of people who are blind or visually impaired. There's absolutely nothing wrong with ignorance because it can be remedied with knowledge. It is only deliberately remaining ignorant that is the problem. Any Thunderbird users online? Can you all help Heather? I suspect that the ways to input commands or to get at menus have changed. I think once the new command set is known, all will be well. Now, I could be wrong. Software companies have, in the past, made huge bloopers which have actually made their software inaccessible, and this is a possibility, but it's a remote one. If the commands have changed, maybe Accessible World or BITS or Mystic Access may want to think about a tutorial or presentation. That would solve the problem handily. Ann P. Original message:
Hello, my thunder bird updated and now it is inaccessible! Anyone have this issue? Heather Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for
chris judge
I know. I looked a week ago and found nothing either.
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Chris Judge
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: May 21, 2021 9:11 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Hi Chris, Yes, the versionof m s office 2016 I purchased a couple years ago includes outlook. Today when I looked on Amazon.ca I did not see any versions of m s office for that or a similar price. As I wrote in my earlier message, I looked only at the first 10 to 20 results using the search term; M s office 2019 At that kind of saving, it is worth a much more thorough search. Also, the home/student version of office usually does not include outlook andprobably some other office components. Now, what you find on e bay can be quite different. I would expect that office 2022 should be out soon. Also, micro soft is definitely nudging people toward the 360 annual subscription. This annual subscription looks like agood deal for a family type situation, but for a single user, a one-time purchase is better. Of course, this only applies if you care about a hundred bucks here or ther. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: May 21, 2021 4:40 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Monte, does the 30 dollar version include outlook? If so I might dump the office 365 subscription and go that route. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: May 21, 2021 3:28 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for I purchased my copy of m s office pro 2016 from Amazon. Today I would get the 2019 version, maybe there will be a 2022 soon. It is a 1 time purchase. If you check out the results from a search on amazon, you can find something cheap like 30 bucks. It's legal. I even got m s to help me install it. With these low priced editions, you do not get a dvd,, you get a product key. Then you must go to the m s store and download the version you purchased. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham Sent: May 21, 2021 11:44 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for Hi all, A while back I started looking for ms Office but all I found online was versions that it looked like I'd have to pay a yearly subscription for. Are there versions of ms Office that I can get online and only have to pay once for, and if so what's the best place to look? Thanks. Troy
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Re: thunderbird help needed
Gene
I doubt you did anything. It may be that the update itself didn’t go
properly. It usually doesn’t happen but things go wrong sometimes with all
sorts of things. I assume you saw my messages and will keep a copy of the
program as a backup to guard against possible problems in future.
Gene
From: heather albright
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed Okay, thanks everyone, I truly appreciate all the help. I plan on deleting the portable copy and reinstalling it again. I have the profiles folder saved so I can put it back. I just hate not knowing what exactly happened to make my thunderbird go hay wire after it updated. I just wanted to know so I do not do it again in the future.I hope the profiles are okay. It was a real pain with google to add 2 accounts and I cant remember what we did to add the second one to thunderbird. I was trying to find my notes on it tonight and could not find them with the steps. So I hope tomorrow is another day where my brain works better than today, smils! Heather
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Gene
Whatever you do, after you solve the problem, back up the portable program. That’s one of the important reasons to use the portable version. If anything becomes corrupted, you don’t have to do any trouble shooting. Just delete the program and copy the folder from the backup location to where you have the folder you are working in now.
As far as how to remove a portable program, it isn’t installed. Just delete the folder and you will have deleted the program.
There is an installer but it doesn’t install the program. It places it on your machine, that is, it creates the folders and places the files in them but it doesn’t actually install the program. As I said, portable programs aren’t installed.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed
You should back up the existing copy of Thunderbird portable before it updates and in general, it’s a good idea to have it backed up so all your settings are maintained and you don’t have to do any setup if you decided to replace the existing copy.
Do you have a backup of an older version that you can place where the current version is now? In other words, if you have a backup, delete the folder of the program you are using and copy the backup to the location you run the program from.
If you don’t have a backup, I’m not sure about how you would downgrade. Others may be able to advise you. I’m going to let my current version update and see if I have any problems. Meantime do you see such things as menus in the program? Do you see the folders treeview? What don’t you see, the messages list? It may be that with more information, we can solve the problem without downgrading or using an older version.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: heather albright Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed
I apologized I am using thunder bird portable, not the installed program, did not know if this made a difference? Thank You Heather
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: heather
albright via groups.io
I can write a message in thunderbird using the keyboard keystrokes but, I am unable to access my messages after the update. IS there something I should do to make look like it did before the update? Or can I downgrade to the last version before it updated? I am using my old app the windows mail app. I want my thunderbird back. Thank you Heather Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: thunderbird help needed
heather albright
Okay, thanks everyone, I truly appreciate all the help. I plan on deleting the portable copy and reinstalling it again. I have the profiles folder saved so I can put it back. I just hate not knowing what exactly happened to make my thunderbird go hay wire after it updated. I just wanted to know so I do not do it again in the future.I hope the profiles are okay. It was a real pain with google to add 2 accounts and I cant remember what we did to add the second one to thunderbird. I was trying to find my notes on it tonight and could not find them with the steps. So I hope tomorrow is another day where my brain works better than today, smils! Heather
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 6:51 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed
Whatever you do, after you solve the problem, back up the portable program. That’s one of the important reasons to use the portable version. If anything becomes corrupted, you don’t have to do any trouble shooting. Just delete the program and copy the folder from the backup location to where you have the folder you are working in now.
As far as how to remove a portable program, it isn’t installed. Just delete the folder and you will have deleted the program.
There is an installer but it doesn’t install the program. It places it on your machine, that is, it creates the folders and places the files in them but it doesn’t actually install the program. As I said, portable programs aren’t installed.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed
You should back up the existing copy of Thunderbird portable before it updates and in general, it’s a good idea to have it backed up so all your settings are maintained and you don’t have to do any setup if you decided to replace the existing copy.
Do you have a backup of an older version that you can place where the current version is now? In other words, if you have a backup, delete the folder of the program you are using and copy the backup to the location you run the program from.
If you don’t have a backup, I’m not sure about how you would downgrade. Others may be able to advise you. I’m going to let my current version update and see if I have any problems. Meantime do you see such things as menus in the program? Do you see the folders treeview? What don’t you see, the messages list? It may be that with more information, we can solve the problem without downgrading or using an older version.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: heather albright Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thunderbird help needed
I apologized I am using thunder bird portable, not the installed program, did not know if this made a difference? Thank You Heather
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: heather albright via groups.io
I can write a message in thunderbird using the keyboard keystrokes but, I am unable to access my messages after the update. IS there something I should do to make look like it did before the update? Or can I downgrade to the last version before it updated? I am using my old app the windows mail app. I want my thunderbird back. Thank you Heather Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: exporting addressbook
Gene
I don’t know if this is likely, but this may be a consequence of running
such an old program with an unintended version of an operating system. Or
it may have nothing to do with it. When you start the export process, at
some point, you are placed in a list of fields to check for export. I
believe they are all checked by default, but try to find out. As you up
and down arrow in the list, you may not hear anything about whether they are
checked. Press the space bar on items in the list and see if you hear
selected. If you do, they may all be unselected. Press the space bar
on all fields you want to be exported, then continue.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry hathaway
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 9:45 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] exporting addressbook I am having trouble exporting my addressbook from
Outlook Express on my Windows 7 computer. Somehow when I use the export and
choose the text CSV I come up with a blank file. Does anybody have any
suggestions on how to solve this problem.
Jerry
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exporting addressbook
Jerry hathaway
I am having trouble exporting my addressbook from
Outlook Express on my Windows 7 computer. Somehow when I use the export and
choose the text CSV I come up with a blank file. Does anybody have any
suggestions on how to solve this problem.
Jerry
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Re: blocking ads on google chrome
Jaffar Sidek
You should try it. Saves loads of time.
On 22/5/2021 9:58 am, Hope Williamson
wrote:
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Re: amazon search
Gene
I don’t know why you are having the problem you are having. I tried
the search not in quotes on the Amazon Home page and got lots of relevant
results.
If you are on the home page, try another browser and see what
happens.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
I put it in quotes and got more garbage than without quotes.
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Holcomb II
Put it in quotes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Monte Single
Hi List,
When I do a search for something on amazon, I get results that may be similar, but not what I am looking for.
For example, this afternoon I entered;
“m s office 2019”
Without the quotes in the amazon search field.
I ended up with results for ms windows, libre office, office, and many others.
How can I refine my search?
Thanks,
Monte
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Re: blocking ads on google chrome
Hope Williamson
I never use sync lol. I'm currently using Crhome without an
account signed in.
On 5/21/2021 12:46 PM, Jaffar Sidek
wrote:
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Re: amazon search
Monte Single
I put it in quotes and got more garbage than without quotes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: May 21, 2021 7:18 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amazon search
Put it in quotes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Hi List,
When I do a search for something on amazon, I get results that may be similar, but not what I am looking for.
For example, this afternoon I entered;
“m s office 2019”
Without the quotes in the amazon search field.
I ended up with results for ms windows, libre office, office, and many others.
How can I refine my search?
Thanks,
Monte
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Re: blocking ads on google chrome
Hope Williamson
Since you reinstalled it, all your extensions will need to be
reinstalled.
On 5/21/2021 1:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
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Re: looking for ms Office that I only have to pay once for
Troy Burnham
Thanks for verifying what I found Monty. I went a bit deeper than you did thinking that the cheaper options may be at the bottom of the list of results, and maybe they are but I didn't find them.
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I'll look on other sites and see what I can find, at least I know what to look for now. I'm actually only looking for ms word. Troy
On 5/21/2021 5:05 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Troy,
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Re: amazon search
Gene
It may be that what you are searching for comes up later in the
results. But there is an alternative. I don’t know if this will work
as well as searching on Amazon itself perhaps with a refined search, At times, I
don’t go to a site to search for something. For example, if I want to find
something on Youtube, I type the name and then youtube in a Google search.
I find it more convenient to use the same search interface for as much as I
can. Try searching for M S Word Amazon in a Google search. You will
find results. You’ll have to decide if they are satisffactory.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hi List,
When I do a search for something on amazon, I get results that may be similar, but not what I am looking for.
For example, this afternoon I entered;
“m s office 2019”
Without the quotes in the amazon search field.
I ended up with results for ms windows, libre office, office, and many others.
How can I refine my search?
Thanks,
Monte
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Re: Send Space & Free Downloads
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
Mainly because I haven't researched the
differences between the 2 settings and I don't plan on using this email client
except for experimental and learning purposes. I will take your advice and
change that setting since you have the experience with these settings.
Thanks for the tip.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Send Space & Free Downloads Why don’t you use simple HTML? Its safer. Simple HTML allows
formatting information used in a message but won’t let HTML code run.
While its not likely that malicious HTML code will be present in an e-mail, why
take an unnecessary risk for no benefit?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hi Lisa,
Okay I just installed T-Bird to play around
and I think I found the settings for this. Try the following to see if
your settings are the same.
1. While in the In-box press, Alt + T, for the
Tool menu, up arrow to, Options and press enter.
2. Tab until you get to the Advanced button
and press the spacebar to open.
3. Now tab several times to the following,
Text Encoding Horizontal Outgoing Mail: Alt+Shift+u Combo box
Unicode (UTF-8) Text Encoding Horizontal Incoming Mail: Alt+Shift+I Combo box Unicode (UTF-8) Text Encoding checked When possible, use the default text encoding in replies Alt+Shift+h check box The above are my settings and I don't get the extra symbols, � , when I send / receive messages, and I set T-Bird to Original HTML, or whatever the option is above simple HTML. HTH
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa
Belville
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Send Space & Free Downloads Oh yes, I know about them.� I've played around with the settings in Thunderbird, but they don't seem to go away. Right now I have messages displaying in simple HTML and they're being sent with plain text. I don't see them until I read a post on a list. It has to be something TB is
putting in there.� It's not just on lists, it's to anyone regardless of text
or HTML.
It's very annoying and makes me look like a worse writer than I am.� LOL
Any thoughts?
Lisa Belville missktlab1217@... On 5/20/2021 8:33 PM, Mike B wrote:
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Re: amazon search
John Holcomb II
Put it in quotes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 8:43 PM To: techtalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] amazon search
Hi List,
When I do a search for something on amazon, I get results that may be similar, but not what I am looking for.
For example, this afternoon I entered;
“m s office 2019”
Without the quotes in the amazon search field.
I ended up with results for ms windows, libre office, office, and many others.
How can I refine my search?
Thanks,
Monte
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