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Re: making work laptop more accessible for my needs?

Gene
 

I don’t have Windows 10.  But is there a possibility that some sort of tablet mode is being used?  From the little I’ve observed, when two people I know changed from Windows 7 to Windows 10, if people use traditional Windows programs, not Windows 10 apps, Windows 10 appears to me to be similar to Windows 7 but it may not be if a tablet mode is being used. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] making work laptop more accessible for my needs?
 

Ok so what in particular are you trying to do on Windows 10 that you are having so much trouble with ?

What are you trying to do with JAWS that you found so easy with Window-eyes that you don’t find easy in JAWS?

Have you considered giving narrator a try too?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 12:10 AM
To: discussion@...; VICUG-L@...; TechTalk@groups.io; access-uk@...
Subject: [TechTalk] making work laptop more accessible for my needs?
Importance: High

 

hello all,

sorry for the long e-mail, but am really hoping some of you can help with a laptop issue I am having.

the laptop in question, is one I was provided with, a while after I got elected on to fenland district council.

whilst don't get me wrong, I appreciate them doing this, and it has proved reasonably useful for accessing reports/agenda packs whilst at meetings, I am having some major access issues with it, that are really giving me a batch of headaches!

the main 2 issues, are that in order to insure that it is, and remains compatible with current and future systems, rather than windows7, which I am used to using, it has some version of win10 on it, which has an interface that I am not at all familiar with, and that I am not finding very usable at all.

as if that wasn't enough of an issue, instead of at least letting me have NVDA on it, (as I appreciate that window-eyes, which would have been my first choice, as it is what I am most used to using, wasn't going to work), someone had the not so great idea of putting jaws on it. whilst again, it probably is the better screenreader over all, again, it is the one I am least familiar with actually using, so is not as much help as it should be.

over this last year, whilst meetings have been over zoom, these haven't been issues, as I have been able to use my good old win7 machine with window-eyes, with no issues what so ever.

now that the government in it's not so great wisdom, have stated that councils can't have remote meetings anymore, I am now looking at having to use a machine which, because of a screenreader that I am not at all familiar with, and an os/interface I am not at all familiar with, is quite frankly more of a hindrance, than a help!

because it is a council machine, I haven't got the rights of access to properly customise it, so what I need are proper instructions that I can give to the council's it team, if possible to do the following:

1, get the os interface to work like win7, so that I can actually work with it.

and 2 get jaws to work like window-eyes if possible, or nvda if not possible.

 

thanks for any help received, and I hope it all makes sense.

 

Simon

 

 


Re: are there items one can buy to help boost or extend our Wi-Fi internet connection better

John Holcomb II
 

Have you considered a M Mesh wifi system?

Sounds like that is something you need.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 9:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] are there items one can buy to help boost or extend our Wi-Fi internet connection better

 

We have several devices hooked up to our Wi-Fi from AT&T, and we are pretty sure we have the absolute best package available for this area. It's a pretty congested area with mobile homes close together and sometimes the Internet is way slow. I bought a Linxys (probably spelling it wrong) for my PC because it's not a laptop and needs something plugged into it. My family has cell phones and sometimes they game, and what I haven't been able to do lately with a lot of success is use my Victor Stream or Blindshell phone without at least a few times a session being told error and error is always about the connection. My littler items are having a hard time staying connected and this hardly ever happens when I'm at other places with less stress on the Wi-Fi or the towers or wherever the problem is. I mean I am right here by this Linxys thing when using these items but it still acts up more than it should. If I go closer to the actual Wi-Fi in the living room I seem to have better luck downloading or web-surfing, etc. Do I need something super-strong in my room, or is there some kind of booster that might distribute Internet access better? Do you think it's my PC, since it's an older PC but I didn't think it would affect how my connection with the Linxys comes across.

 

I really would appreciate some thoughts on this one.

 

Joanne

 


Re: making work laptop more accessible for my needs?

John Holcomb II
 

Ok so what in particular are you trying to do on Windows 10 that you are having so much trouble with ?

What are you trying to do with JAWS that you found so easy with Window-eyes that you don’t find easy in JAWS?

Have you considered giving narrator a try too?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 12:10 AM
To: discussion@...; VICUG-L@...; TechTalk@groups.io; access-uk@...
Subject: [TechTalk] making work laptop more accessible for my needs?
Importance: High

 

hello all,

sorry for the long e-mail, but am really hoping some of you can help with a laptop issue I am having.

the laptop in question, is one I was provided with, a while after I got elected on to fenland district council.

whilst don't get me wrong, I appreciate them doing this, and it has proved reasonably useful for accessing reports/agenda packs whilst at meetings, I am having some major access issues with it, that are really giving me a batch of headaches!

the main 2 issues, are that in order to insure that it is, and remains compatible with current and future systems, rather than windows7, which I am used to using, it has some version of win10 on it, which has an interface that I am not at all familiar with, and that I am not finding very usable at all.

as if that wasn't enough of an issue, instead of at least letting me have NVDA on it, (as I appreciate that window-eyes, which would have been my first choice, as it is what I am most used to using, wasn't going to work), someone had the not so great idea of putting jaws on it. whilst again, it probably is the better screenreader over all, again, it is the one I am least familiar with actually using, so is not as much help as it should be.

over this last year, whilst meetings have been over zoom, these haven't been issues, as I have been able to use my good old win7 machine with window-eyes, with no issues what so ever.

now that the government in it's not so great wisdom, have stated that councils can't have remote meetings anymore, I am now looking at having to use a machine which, because of a screenreader that I am not at all familiar with, and an os/interface I am not at all familiar with, is quite frankly more of a hindrance, than a help!

because it is a council machine, I haven't got the rights of access to properly customise it, so what I need are proper instructions that I can give to the council's it team, if possible to do the following:

1, get the os interface to work like win7, so that I can actually work with it.

and 2 get jaws to work like window-eyes if possible, or nvda if not possible.

 

thanks for any help received, and I hope it all makes sense.

 

Simon

 

 


Re: Camera question for the blind

John Holcomb II
 

What you need is a mic with a headphone output. This way you can hear VO while you're using the mic.
Can't help you with the camera I've never really used a camera on a phone other than with AIRA.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cole
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 8:14 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Camera question for the blind

Hi
I’m new to the list serve. My name is Cole Roberts. I have been totally blind since 2002 due to Glaucoma. I have a quick couple of camera accessible questions for the blind.
First, I want to get into podcasting and vlogging. What would be the best camera for this task if you are totally blind? I do have a GoPro 8 black. Would my I-pad pro camera be the best? My friend suggested a camcorder, but most modern camcorders on the market don’t seam accessible with their touch screens. I am looking for something basic, good, and not expensive.
Second, for my podcast, I was going to use my I-pad and I bought a kimafun wireless lapel mic to work with it. After testing it out with some sighted help, it works and is what I am looking for, but as soon as I plug my mic into the I-pad, voiceover stops working. So I tried to hit play first before plugging my mic in, but that just stopped the recording. When the mic is plugged in and voiceover is not working, how do I hit play and make sure it is working? Also about the question above, my wish would be to plug my kimafun into my GoPro, and contro every thing with my phone, but if their is a better camera that is more independently and accessible friendly, that would be great.
Thank you.
Yours,
Cole Roberts


Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Gene
 

I’m not sure what you are describing as the dialog reading altogether.  I have seen this or that interface where NVDA reads it improperly in that it reads most of it and you can’t stop the reading.  If you wait for the reading to finish and then move in the interface, such as tabbing, if appropriate, you can hear each field read as you move to it.  I’m not sure what you are hearing but whatever it is, let speech speak if it is without you moving, then when it finishes, tab and see if you hear the field you are in being read.  At this point, I can’t tell if there is a problem with NVDA or what the problem might be.  The interfaces I’ve seen read incorrectly in this way are installers now and then and a dialog-like interface in this or that program but NVDA should never have such a problem when reading its own dialogs.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support
 
Okay, I pressed NVDA + ctrl + g, but allI was able to do with confidence was to select English from the list of languages.  The rest of the dialog mostly read as "ALTOGETHER".


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On Jun 2, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


There wasn't NVDA+control+t in the steps I gave you - NVDA+control+g (G for golf) opens NVDA's general settings - just like press NVDA+n, then p then enter).  The other one with three keys was NVDA+control+c (C for charlie) to save settings, which again you can do another way, NVDA+n, then down arrow to save settings and enter.
 
There is telephone support you can get from our shop either on its own by the half hour block, or as part of the NVDA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/
 
Otherwise you get me here - I'm live, just slow :)
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 12:25 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Its g, not t.  If something doesn’t work in a case like this, check a letter if one is given.  Move to the letter and press numpad 2 two times quickly.  The second press will tell you the letter phonetically like gulf for g. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support
 

I tried the caps lock and the numeric insert NVDA key+ ctrl+t, but so far it did not respond.  Does this mean that I must first successfully install it?  That's where I'm stuck so far.  Is there a way that I can get free live help?

 

Thanks,

On 6/2/2021 6:41 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sharon,
 
No problem, here are the steps:
 

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.
 
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


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Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Sharon Hooley
 

Okay, I pressed NVDA + ctrl + g, but allI was able to do with confidence was to select English from the list of languages.  The rest of the dialog mostly read as "ALTOGETHER".
  

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On Jun 2, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


There wasn't NVDA+control+t in the steps I gave you - NVDA+control+g (G for golf) opens NVDA's general settings - just like press NVDA+n, then p then enter).  The other one with three keys was NVDA+control+c (C for charlie) to save settings, which again you can do another way, NVDA+n, then down arrow to save settings and enter.

There is telephone support you can get from our shop either on its own by the half hour block, or as part of the NVDA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Otherwise you get me here - I'm live, just slow :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 12:25 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Its g, not t.  If something doesn’t work in a case like this, check a letter if one is given.  Move to the letter and press numpad 2 two times quickly.  The second press will tell you the letter phonetically like gulf for g. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support
 

I tried the caps lock and the numeric insert NVDA key+ ctrl+t, but so far it did not respond.  Does this mean that I must first successfully install it?  That's where I'm stuck so far.  Is there a way that I can get free live help?

 

Thanks,

On 6/2/2021 6:41 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sharon,
 
No problem, here are the steps:
 

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.
 
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


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Re: USB Dongle Keyboard

Marie Nelson <scribbles.mn@...>
 

Good luck on this one, Mike. I do not believe that Logitech makes a keyboard now with the context key, which I find extremely irritating. You might want to take a look at the Microsoft keyboards as they are much more likely to have the RF dongle and the context key available on some models. I have two of their keyboards like this that are around ten years old and still work great.

Marie

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 5:43 AM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] USB Dongle Keyboard

 

Hi All,

 

I've lost my notes for this, but what I'm looking for is a full size keyboard that works from a USB radio receiver dongle.  Preferrably with both Alt, Windows & Control keys and an applications key on the bottom row.  I believe a couple of Logitech keyboards have been discussed, but I don't recall their model numbers.  I would be using this keyboard with Windows desktop computers.

 

If anyone has suggestions I'd appreciate them all.  Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


are there items one can buy to help boost or extend our Wi-Fi internet connection better

joanne
 

We have several devices hooked up to our Wi-Fi from AT&T, and we are pretty sure we have the absolute best package available for this area. It's a pretty congested area with mobile homes close together and sometimes the Internet is way slow. I bought a Linxys (probably spelling it wrong) for my PC because it's not a laptop and needs something plugged into it. My family has cell phones and sometimes they game, and what I haven't been able to do lately with a lot of success is use my Victor Stream or Blindshell phone without at least a few times a session being told error and error is always about the connection. My littler items are having a hard time staying connected and this hardly ever happens when I'm at other places with less stress on the Wi-Fi or the towers or wherever the problem is. I mean I am right here by this Linxys thing when using these items but it still acts up more than it should. If I go closer to the actual Wi-Fi in the living room I seem to have better luck downloading or web-surfing, etc. Do I need something super-strong in my room, or is there some kind of booster that might distribute Internet access better? Do you think it's my PC, since it's an older PC but I didn't think it would affect how my connection with the Linxys comes across.
 
I really would appreciate some thoughts on this one.
 
Joanne
 


Re: download i hart radio app windows 10

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Try the following:
To change your app download and installation options  to something other than the Microsoft Store do the following:
 
1. Windows + I, for settings and tab 1 time to, System.
 
2. Right arrow to, Apps,  press enter, and tab 1 time into the list of categories.
 
3. The first item in the list is, Apps and Features, press enter on this, and tab 1 time to the app install options combobox. 
 
4. Press, Alt + down arrow, to open the combobox.
There are four options:
1. only from the Microsoft Store.
 
2. Anywhere, but warn me if it's not from the Microsoft store.
 
3. anywhere but let me know if there is a comparable app in the Microsoft store.
 
 4. Anywhere.
 
5. Arrow up / down to the option you want and press enter.  Press, Alt + F4, to close and just to make sure your settings change takes effect, reboot your
computer.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 3:28 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] download i hart radio app windows 10

Hi. Trying to download I hart radio for my windows 10 pro laptop. Having a nightmare trying to download. The Microsoft store will not let me download.

Where do I download it from. Does any one have a file I can download.

Frustrating. Most of the sites, will not let me  and not very jaws friendly.

Any help.

Thanks.

 

 


Re: stopping a program from starting up after login

chris judge
 

Hi. Do the following. Go to your start menu and type startup apps.
Press enter to open start up apps settings. Tab through and turn off the
apps you don't want to run at startup.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan
via groups.io
Sent: June 3, 2021 2:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] stopping a program from starting up after login

Windows 10 latest and jfw 2020.
I installed discord many moons back, how do I have it stop from starting up?
I looked under the start up tab and services tab in msconfig, but discord
was no where to be found.
Then I looked in the discord application itself, and couldn't find anything,
as I am still learning my way around that application.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
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download i hart radio app windows 10

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi. Trying to download I hart radio for my windows 10 pro laptop. Having a nightmare trying to download. The Microsoft store will not let me download.

Where do I download it from. Does any one have a file I can download.

Frustrating. Most of the sites, will not let me  and not very jaws friendly.

Any help.

Thanks.

 

 


stopping a program from starting up after login

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Windows 10 latest and jfw 2020.
I installed discord many moons back, how do I have it stop from starting up?
I looked under the start up tab and services tab in msconfig, but discord
was no where to be found.
Then I looked in the discord application itself, and couldn't find anything,
as I am still learning my way around that application.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA
Also, you may follow me on twitter:
https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng


Re: Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community

goshawk on horseback
 

have tried it on my iPhone X, and there is a button to enter info manually, don't know why it isn't showing for you.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Zaynoun" <humorlessgeza@samobile.net>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community


I had the same problem, solution was I used my Braillenote Touch Plus and completed registration using Clubhouse Record.
Original message:

Right so I do that, it says get your username.
I then enter in my number.
It then sends me a code, and I type it in.
Now here I am at the screen that says “Let’s set up your profile?”
Then all I have is an import from Twitter button.
If I hit that it opens twitter, but I can’t hit the authorize app button.
There is no other way for me to be able to enter a username manually or anything else on this app.
This is as far as I’ve been able to get and I’ve tried this multiple times.
This is on an iPhone SE, first generation.
I could try on android but its not my primary.
So what am I missing?
Thanks again,
John
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 3:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community
If you have the Clubhouse app installed on your phone, you just click the link in the message.
Andy
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From: Sharon Hooley <mailto:shooley42@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community
I don't understand how to accept Clubhouse invitations. I tried going to the next step after entering my phone number, but It seems I'm stuck. I also tried getting my username, but failed. Do I need to try again or take a different way? And once I get in successfuly, how do I accept?
Thanks,
acce
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making work laptop more accessible for my needs?

goshawk on horseback
 

hello all,
sorry for the long e-mail, but am really hoping some of you can help with a laptop issue I am having.
the laptop in question, is one I was provided with, a while after I got elected on to fenland district council.
whilst don't get me wrong, I appreciate them doing this, and it has proved reasonably useful for accessing reports/agenda packs whilst at meetings, I am having some major access issues with it, that are really giving me a batch of headaches!
the main 2 issues, are that in order to insure that it is, and remains compatible with current and future systems, rather than windows7, which I am used to using, it has some version of win10 on it, which has an interface that I am not at all familiar with, and that I am not finding very usable at all.
as if that wasn't enough of an issue, instead of at least letting me have NVDA on it, (as I appreciate that window-eyes, which would have been my first choice, as it is what I am most used to using, wasn't going to work), someone had the not so great idea of putting jaws on it. whilst again, it probably is the better screenreader over all, again, it is the one I am least familiar with actually using, so is not as much help as it should be.
over this last year, whilst meetings have been over zoom, these haven't been issues, as I have been able to use my good old win7 machine with window-eyes, with no issues what so ever.
now that the government in it's not so great wisdom, have stated that councils can't have remote meetings anymore, I am now looking at having to use a machine which, because of a screenreader that I am not at all familiar with, and an os/interface I am not at all familiar with, is quite frankly more of a hindrance, than a help!
because it is a council machine, I haven't got the rights of access to properly customise it, so what I need are proper instructions that I can give to the council's it team, if possible to do the following:
1, get the os interface to work like win7, so that I can actually work with it.
and 2 get jaws to work like window-eyes if possible, or nvda if not possible.
 
thanks for any help received, and I hope it all makes sense.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community

George Zaynoun
 

I had the same problem, solution was I used my Braillenote Touch Plus and completed registration using Clubhouse Record.
Original message:

Right so I do that, it says get your username.
I then enter in my number.
It then sends me a code, and I type it in.
Now here I am at the screen that says “Let’s set up your profile?”
Then all I have is an import from Twitter button.
If I hit that it opens twitter, but I can’t hit the authorize app button.
There is no other way for me to be able to enter a username manually or anything else on this app.
This is as far as I’ve been able to get and I’ve tried this multiple times.
This is on an iPhone SE, first generation.
I could try on android but its not my primary.
So what am I missing?
Thanks again,
John
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 3:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community
If you have the Clubhouse app installed on your phone, you just click the link in the message.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon Hooley <mailto:shooley42@gmail.com>
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind Tech Guys Invites You To Be A Part Of The BTG ClubHouse Community
I don't understand how to accept Clubhouse invitations. I tried going to the next step after entering my phone number, but It seems I'm stuck. I also tried getting my username, but failed. Do I need to try again or take a different way? And once I get in successfuly, how do I accept?
Thanks,
acce
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Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Quentin Christensen
 

There wasn't NVDA+control+t in the steps I gave you - NVDA+control+g (G for golf) opens NVDA's general settings - just like press NVDA+n, then p then enter).  The other one with three keys was NVDA+control+c (C for charlie) to save settings, which again you can do another way, NVDA+n, then down arrow to save settings and enter.

There is telephone support you can get from our shop either on its own by the half hour block, or as part of the NVDA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Otherwise you get me here - I'm live, just slow :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 12:25 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Its g, not t.  If something doesn’t work in a case like this, check a letter if one is given.  Move to the letter and press numpad 2 two times quickly.  The second press will tell you the letter phonetically like gulf for g. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support
 

I tried the caps lock and the numeric insert NVDA key+ ctrl+t, but so far it did not respond.  Does this mean that I must first successfully install it?  That's where I'm stuck so far.  Is there a way that I can get free live help?

 

Thanks,

On 6/2/2021 6:41 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sharon,
 
No problem, here are the steps:
 

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.
 
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


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Training and Support Manager


Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Gene
 

Its g, not t.  If something doesn’t work in a case like this, check a letter if one is given.  Move to the letter and press numpad 2 two times quickly.  The second press will tell you the letter phonetically like gulf for g. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support
 

I tried the caps lock and the numeric insert NVDA key+ ctrl+t, but so far it did not respond.  Does this mean that I must first successfully install it?  That's where I'm stuck so far.  Is there a way that I can get free live help?

 

Thanks,

On 6/2/2021 6:41 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sharon,
 
No problem, here are the steps:
 

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.
 
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com




 
 
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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Sharon Hooley
 

I tried the caps lock and the numeric insert NVDA key+ ctrl+t, but so far it did not respond.  Does this mean that I must first successfully install it?  That's where I'm stuck so far.  Is there a way that I can get free live help?


Thanks,

On 6/2/2021 6:41 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sharon,

No problem, here are the steps:


First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Attention Quenten especially, about sending the NVDA log for tech support

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sharon,

No problem, here are the steps:


First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:01 AM Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was asked to send the log for NVDA to help resolve the issue of  the buttons not reading properly for installation, but I deleted that message.  I'm ready to take care of that now, so, if you don't mind, can you please send again the steps for finding and sending it?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Camera question for the blind

Cole <coleredsocks@...>
 

Hi
I’m new to the list serve. My name is Cole Roberts. I have been totally blind since 2002 due to Glaucoma. I have a quick couple of camera accessible questions for the blind.
First, I want to get into podcasting and vlogging. What would be the best camera for this task if you are totally blind? I do have a GoPro 8 black. Would my I-pad pro camera be the best? My friend suggested a camcorder, but most modern camcorders on the market don’t seam accessible with their touch screens. I am looking for something basic, good, and not expensive.
Second, for my podcast, I was going to use my I-pad and I bought a kimafun wireless lapel mic to work with it. After testing it out with some sighted help, it works and is what I am looking for, but as soon as I plug my mic into the I-pad, voiceover stops working. So I tried to hit play first before plugging my mic in, but that just stopped the recording. When the mic is plugged in and voiceover is not working, how do I hit play and make sure it is working? Also about the question above, my wish would be to plug my kimafun into my GoPro, and contro every thing with my phone, but if their is a better camera that is more independently and accessible friendly, that would be great.
Thank you.
Yours,
Cole Roberts

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