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Re: Windows Ten Question

Gene
 

I wasn’t responding to that specific offer.  I don’t know who refurbished it or anything about it.  If it were me, I’d only buy refurbished computers from well known manufacturers. 
 
I was responding to the general advice which is given, to buy the most powerful computer you can afford.  Why are computers different from anything else?  Why shouldn’t you buy what you need, or, if you want to spend a little more, a little more than what you need in case you use your computer in more demanding ways.  But buy the most powerful computer you can afford is the same kind of advice as put as much memory in your computer as you can.  If you never use anywhere near 8GB of RAM and its already on the machine, why spend money adding more?
 
Gene
----- Original Message [-----

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question
 

 

What do you mean by a waste of money?  The refurbished desktop Dave is suggesting costs about $160 on EBay, and about the same on Amazon, which would be a preferable source for my money because their customer service is better and you can add a three year protection plan for about $20, which would be well worth the marginal additional cost.  If you can buy an I5 desktop with 8 gb of RAM, 500 gb hard drive and Windows 10 Pro for under $200, what's wrong with that, even if it has more computing power  than you are likely to need?  This is a fabulous value.  Thirty years ago, you couldn't even buy a Commodore 64 for that price.  Dave's advice is very reasonable.  And before you make generalizations about buying a Windows 10 computer, you might want to upgrade from Windows 7 yourself. Indeed, go to Amazon, and do a search for something like, "renewed desktop, I5, 8 gb RAM, 500 gb hard drive, Windows 10 pro, under $150", and see how many results you get, most of which have dozens of four and five star reviews from satisfied customers.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 9/18/2019 1:20 PM, Gene wrote:
You are advising someone to, by analogy, buy a race car for stop and go city driving.  It's a real waste of money to buy something that is more powerful than you need.  A little more is one thing, a gaming caliber machine is something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question
 
Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh>  As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to
whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be
more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower
than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using
what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system
later down the road.    As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support
is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it
doesn't.  How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure.  I would
guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away,
but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it
will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing
to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for
myself, but for my job as well.  And you can get a very good and
reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost.   And
it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me  and so my
suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know
would do the job, any job I threw at it.  Some here are going to tell
you that you could get by with a lot less.  You could, but I strongly
suggest to resist getting less power.  If you can afford it, get more
power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System.  If you prefer a Lap Top, then
those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used
Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at
least 3.0 GHZ.  Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the
Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is
needed.   I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you
can always get something even faster if you can afford it.  This is a
minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work
very well for you.  There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory,
more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives.  Those all will cost more, and
for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have
the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower
and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I
suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay.  Don't know if you have
ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky.
You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there.     I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top.    Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions.  From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more.  Win 7 will be like Win XP.  And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone.  It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do.   So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System.  You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower.  These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports.   as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often.  I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5.  Same goes for a Mouse.  I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one.  Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10.  This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10.  I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size.  A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition.  I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top.    But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them.  Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave






Re: Hackers, On Line Pirates an other Jerks

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

I've certainly used Shields up before. Sure it can happen by port scanning as well.


Re: Windows Ten Question

Gerald Levy
 


What do you mean by a waste of money?  The refurbished desktop Dave is suggesting costs about $160 on EBay, and about the same on Amazon, which would be a preferable source for my money because their customer service is better and you can add a three year protection plan for about $20, which would be well worth the marginal additional cost.  If you can buy an I5 desktop with 8 gb of RAM, 500 gb hard drive and Windows 10 Pro for under $200, what's wrong with that, even if it has more computing power  than you are likely to need?  This is a fabulous value.  Thirty years ago, you couldn't even buy a Commodore 64 for that price.  Dave's advice is very reasonable.  And before you make generalizations about buying a Windows 10 computer, you might want to upgrade from Windows 7 yourself. Indeed, go to Amazon, and do a search for something like, "renewed desktop, I5, 8 gb RAM, 500 gb hard drive, Windows 10 pro, under $150", and see how many results you get, most of which have dozens of four and five star reviews from satisfied customers.  


Gerald



On 9/18/2019 1:20 PM, Gene wrote:
You are advising someone to, by analogy, buy a race car for stop and go city driving.  It's a real waste of money to buy something that is more powerful than you need.  A little more is one thing, a gaming caliber machine is something else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh>  As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to
whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be
more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower
than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using
what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system
later down the road.    As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support
is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it
doesn't.  How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure.  I would
guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away,
but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it
will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing
to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for
myself, but for my job as well.  And you can get a very good and
reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost.   And
it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me  and so my
suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know
would do the job, any job I threw at it.  Some here are going to tell
you that you could get by with a lot less.  You could, but I strongly
suggest to resist getting less power.  If you can afford it, get more
power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System.  If you prefer a Lap Top, then
those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used
Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at
least 3.0 GHZ.  Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the
Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is
needed.   I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you
can always get something even faster if you can afford it.  This is a
minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work
very well for you.  There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory,
more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives.  Those all will cost more, and
for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have
the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower
and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I
suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay.  Don't know if you have
ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky. 
You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there.     I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top.    Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions.  From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more.  Win 7 will be like Win XP.  And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone.  It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do.   So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System.  You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower.  These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports.   as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often.  I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5.  Same goes for a Mouse.  I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one.  Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10.  This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10.  I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size.  A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition.  I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top.    But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them.  Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave






Re: Windows Ten Question

Norma A. Boge
 

Check out Computers for the Blind as a source for rebuilt PCs, they are a non-profit:
https://www.computersfortheblind.org/

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh> As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system later down the road. As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it doesn't. How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure. I would guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away, but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for myself, but for my job as well. And you can get a very good and reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost. And it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me and so my suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know would do the job, any job I threw at it. Some here are going to tell you that you could get by with a lot less. You could, but I strongly suggest to resist getting less power. If you can afford it, get more power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System. If you prefer a Lap Top, then those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at least 3.0 GHZ. Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is needed. I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you can always get something even faster if you can afford it. This is a minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work very well for you. There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory, more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives. Those all will cost more, and for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay. Don't know if you have ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky. You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there. I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top. Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions. From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more. Win 7 will be like Win XP. And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone. It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do. So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System. You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower. These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports. as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often. I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5. Same goes for a Mouse. I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one. Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10. This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10. I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size. A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition. I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top. But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them. Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave


Re: Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Peter,
 
Below is the iTunes latest download link and as for Avast, the last time I tried to use their removal tool I needed sighted asisstance.
 

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

Chris:

This is for my work computer and my boss would not want me spending
time on the phone wit Microsoft for something not work related so I
would really appreciate if you would upload the latest version for me
to download!

Thanks,

Peter

On 9/18/19, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@...> wrote:
> Hi Peter. Avast is difficult to remove. I believe there is an avast removal
> tool that can help, but why not just call the Microsoft disability support
> folks and get them to help you remove it. Having said that, If you still
> haven't gotten the latest version of Itunes I can dig it up when I get a
> chance and send you a drop box link to download it. It might be tomorrow as
> I have a function this evening and won't be home until late.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter
> Spitz
> Sent: September 18, 2019 12:30 PM
> To: main <main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes
> for Windows please
>
> Let me explain why.  I accidentally installed AVAST onto my laptop and
> cannot figure out how to remove it.  When I go to the link from the Apple
> website to download iTunes from the Microsoft website, the site is blocked
> by Avast for reasons I cannot explain.
>
> Therefore, I am asking for someone to post a direct link or even better, a
> Sendspace link for the latest iTunes for Windows.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows Ten Question

Steve Matzura
 

I disagree with not upgrading because the machine is too old. Windows 10 has been optimized  for all sorts of older hardware. What one should do is go to microsoft.com and run their tool that examines the system to determine if it is Windows 10 ready. If it is, then make an image backup of the system which can be done with Windows' own backup utility, retain all software registration keys which can be gotten by using KeyFinder, the Magical Jellybean tool, copy everything--documents, software configurations, etc.--anything that's needed on a new system that came from the old one, make a Windows recovery disk which will be needed if things need to be put back if Windows 10 doesn't work out, get the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool, create the Windows 10 installation media (DVD Or USB), run the GatherOSState program from that media and retain the file it creates so Windows 7 can be upgraded to Windows 10 at no cost--yes, that program still works, boot the media, install Windows 10, and try it. If the results aren't to one's liking, the image backup made above can be used to restore the old system. Oh yes, this can all be done 100% accessibly. The whole process shouldn't take more than a morning or afternoon, excluding the time taken to make the backup, which can vary based on how much is on the boot drive, and how fast the interface is to the backup medium.


While this all sounds like more than a mouthful, none of it is hard; it just requires a few minutes' careful thought about what you need to take with you from the old system to the new one. Programs will all need to be re-installed, but personal files--Web bookmarks, documents, media files, software configuration files, emails, anything you created yourself that you absolutely positively cannot do without, should all be copied to a separate location--to a DVD, to another disk on your system, saved to Dropbox, etc., for put-back on the new system after you get Windows and your screenreader of choice up and running. In two-and-a-half years, I've done or helped others through this process probably a dozen times. With proper preparation, your probability of success will be one hundred percent.

On 9/18/2019 12:26 PM, Dave wrote:
Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh>  As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to
whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be
more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower
than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using
what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system
later down the road.    As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support
is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it
doesn't.  How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure.  I would
guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away,
but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it
will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing
to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for
myself, but for my job as well.  And you can get a very good and
reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost. And
it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me  and so my
suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know
would do the job, any job I threw at it.  Some here are going to tell
you that you could get by with a lot less.  You could, but I strongly
suggest to resist getting less power.  If you can afford it, get more
power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System.  If you prefer a Lap Top, then
those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used
Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at
least 3.0 GHZ.  Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the
Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is
needed.   I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you
can always get something even faster if you can afford it.  This is a
minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work
very well for you.  There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory,
more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives.  Those all will cost more, and
for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have
the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower
and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I
suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay.  Don't know if you have
ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky.
You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there.     I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top.    Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions.  From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more.  Win 7 will be like Win XP.  And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone.  It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do.   So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System.  You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower. These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports.   as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often.  I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5.  Same goes for a Mouse.  I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one.  Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10.  This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10.  I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size.  A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition.  I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top.    But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them.  Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave


Re: Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

Peter Spitz
 

Chris:

This is for my work computer and my boss would not want me spending
time on the phone wit Microsoft for something not work related so I
would really appreciate if you would upload the latest version for me
to download!

Thanks,

Peter

On 9/18/19, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Peter. Avast is difficult to remove. I believe there is an avast removal
tool that can help, but why not just call the Microsoft disability support
folks and get them to help you remove it. Having said that, If you still
haven't gotten the latest version of Itunes I can dig it up when I get a
chance and send you a drop box link to download it. It might be tomorrow as
I have a function this evening and won't be home until late.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter
Spitz
Sent: September 18, 2019 12:30 PM
To: main <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes
for Windows please

Let me explain why. I accidentally installed AVAST onto my laptop and
cannot figure out how to remove it. When I go to the link from the Apple
website to download iTunes from the Microsoft website, the site is blocked
by Avast for reasons I cannot explain.

Therefore, I am asking for someone to post a direct link or even better, a
Sendspace link for the latest iTunes for Windows.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Peter








Re: Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

chris judge
 

Hi Peter. Avast is difficult to remove. I believe there is an avast removal tool that can help, but why not just call the Microsoft disability support folks and get them to help you remove it. Having said that, If you still haven't gotten the latest version of Itunes I can dig it up when I get a chance and send you a drop box link to download it. It might be tomorrow as I have a function this evening and won't be home until late.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: September 18, 2019 12:30 PM
To: main <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

Let me explain why. I accidentally installed AVAST onto my laptop and cannot figure out how to remove it. When I go to the link from the Apple website to download iTunes from the Microsoft website, the site is blocked by Avast for reasons I cannot explain.

Therefore, I am asking for someone to post a direct link or even better, a Sendspace link for the latest iTunes for Windows.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Peter


Re: Windows Ten Question

Gene
 

You are advising someone to, by analogy, buy a race car for stop and go city driving.  It's a real waste of money to buy something that is more powerful than you need.  A little more is one thing, a gaming caliber machine is something else.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh>  As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to
whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be
more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower
than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using
what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system
later down the road.    As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support
is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it
doesn't.  How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure.  I would
guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away,
but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it
will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing
to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for
myself, but for my job as well.  And you can get a very good and
reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost.   And
it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me  and so my
suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know
would do the job, any job I threw at it.  Some here are going to tell
you that you could get by with a lot less.  You could, but I strongly
suggest to resist getting less power.  If you can afford it, get more
power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System.  If you prefer a Lap Top, then
those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used
Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at
least 3.0 GHZ.  Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the
Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is
needed.   I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you
can always get something even faster if you can afford it.  This is a
minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work
very well for you.  There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory,
more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives.  Those all will cost more, and
for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have
the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower
and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I
suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay.  Don't know if you have
ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky. 
You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there.     I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top.    Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions.  From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more.  Win 7 will be like Win XP.  And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone.  It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do.   So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System.  You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower.  These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports.   as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often.  I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5.  Same goes for a Mouse.  I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one.  Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10.  This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10.  I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size.  A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition.  I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top.    But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them.  Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave






Re: Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. I take it you are using the desktop application?

All you need do is launch the desktop aplication and your folders will show and you just copy and paste to and from it as you would when using any folder or external drive. I just ignore the update notification when it appears and update when I'm in the mood. However when you do update it shouldn't affect your settings.

I do like the principle of Open Drive but the only gripe I have with them is the very slow uploads and downloads. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 18 September 2019 17:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Thank you, thank you, Walter! I don't know how long I looked for a
phone number. I had looked at support and didn't find anything, looked
all over for contact us and only found a link under support to fill out
a form. The captcha (sp.) comes up after the submit button.

The tech support person seemed to know that visually impaired computer
users have trouble with those things and I asked him if they could do
something like I am not a robot. He said one can e-mail

support@opendrive.com

which is perfectly doable.

I signed up with OpenDrive in July and wasn't feeling good then and it's
not a great time to try to learn something new now, but I want to try.

One of my problems was that I got a message when I logged in that a new
update was available. The Setup Wizard wanted me to agree with the
license agreement, tell it where I wanted program files, etc. just like
I did during the original setup and I was afraid continuing would mess
up my setup. The tech support person asked for a screen shot, which I
don't know how to do and just thanked him for giving me the support
address. I decided to let the update finish and my test backups seem
intact.

Today's project should be to make sure I can get something back to the
computer if I accidentally lose it somehow.

Margaret

On 9/18/2019 10:14 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. There is a 24 hour help line but where on the site it is I can't remember. If you click on Support you might find it but when contacting support via email I've never encounterred a capcha. I've not been following this thread from it's beginning so what issue do you have with Open Drive?

I've just checked, here's the number they give, hope it helps. Walter.

Phone number.
(888) 418-1108

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 18 September 2019 14:40
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Walter and All:

I spent more time with OpenDrive overnight and made some progress and
hope to work on it again today.

Do you know if they have telephone support? I filled out a support form
only to run into a captcha (sp.). There was something billed as an
audio variant, where one could supposedly type the words heard, but they
were spoken at a thousand words per minute and I had to give up.

Any hints or suggestions for working with the service would be greatly
appreciated.

Margaret


On 9/17/2019 6:45 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Thanks, Walter.

I don't have any files I want to share and have save password and auto
log-in unchecked. The way things have been going, I'll lose the
password for secure.


Margaret

On 9/16/2019 2:28 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
block quote
Hi. When using the Secure folder for the first time you are asked to
create a password. This is a password different to your log in password
and has
no connection. It is very important you remember this password or keep
a copy somewhere because not even Open Drive can get access to the
secure folder.
If you lose or forget your password for the secure folder then you can
ask Open Drive to reset the folder but in doing so, you will lose all
the content
of that folder. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 16 September 2019 01:35
To:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Good Evening:

I apologize if my previous attempt at sending this did make it to the
list. It landed in my in-box and not in the folder where it should have
gone.

I got a licensed copy of OpenDrive to back up documents and files on my
Windows 7 machine a couple months ago. It was not a good time to try to
learn

something new then and, although now isn't much better, I want to try
again and hope some kind person who uses the service can help me get
started.

I downloaded and installed the app back then and created a test folder
in Documents and uploaded a couple test documents and put them in the
test folder.

When I logged in yesterday, I got a message saying that a new version
was available and asking if I wanted to update. I didn't click on yes.
Somewhere
it
seems to say that

version 1.7.4.15 is the most recent. Other than Programs and Features,
which says 1.7.4.9, how can I find out what version I have? Help in the
menu Is

about help for Windows and not OpenDrive. Is the new one accessible
with JAWS 2018, 2019 and NVDA 2019.1.1? Windows 10 is in the near future.

I was able to find the User Guide for the app on my previous attempt at
learning OpenDrive a couple months ago and, after some fumbling around
yesterday,
found
the darn thing. Am I missing something or is it not available on the
app or only on the page for

www.opendrive.com

I also have a question about uploading documents to the secure folder.
I think I read something during my previous learning attempt about a
second password

being necessary to complete it. Does this replace the password one
signs in with or are there two passwords needed to do different things.

I do not have experience with DropBox etc. and heartily disliked
OpenDrive on my earlier effort with the thing and, today, don't like it
any better.
Does anyone have any hints or suggestions for configuring the app so it
works better with JAWS and/or NVDA? I'm running Google Chrome and Firefox.

Any help getting my money's worth out of OpenDrive and feeling
comfortable with it would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret











Re: Windows Ten Question

Gerald Levy
 


But for less than $150, you can buy an Amazon renewed Dell or HP desktop that comes with an I5 3.2 GHz quad core processor,8 gb of RAM and a 250 gb or higher hard drive with Windows 10 Pro installed that should be plenty sufficient for most home users and be able to handle current and future Windows 10 feature releases.  If you prefer a brand new desktop, Amazon has a wide selection of models for under $600.


Gerald



On 9/18/2019 10:38 AM, chris judge wrote:

Especially when you have to factor in such things as screen readers and such.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 18, 2019 11:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

The minimum requirements for any version of Windows are the minimum under which it will run but it’s a bad idea to use the minum requirements.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:54 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

Here is the minimum requirement to run Windows 10 according to Microsoft But I think they are too minimum. I have a laptop with 1.7 GH and 3 GB RAM and windows 10 runs extremely slow in comparison to my Desktop with 3.2 GH and 8 GB RAM..

----- Original Message -----



 

1.       

Jun 19, 2019 - Windows 10 system requirements. Latest OS: Make sure you're running the latest version—either Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update. Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC. RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit. Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS or 20 GB for 64-bit OS. Graphics card: ...

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

I don't know if a nine-year-old computer has whatever is needed to run Windows 7 or to run it well in terms of what is actually in the computer.  For example, it doesn't use the newer BIOS system and I don't know if or how that might matter.  I hope others discuss this.  Computers that can do what you want to do aren't expensive these days and it might well either be necessary or make more sense just to get a new one with Windows 10 on it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shelly Kane

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:43 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

Thank you Ron!  I greatly appreciate you answering my question. My
computer will be nine years old in February but I really don't do much
with it.  Will Thunderbird work the same?  Occasionally, I will hit
control escape to bring up the start menu and get it that way but for
the most part, I use alt control T.  I also have shortcut keys for
Firefox and Chrome.  I really don't want to learn all about it basically
just the things I do.

Shelly

On 9/17/2019 10:09 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hello:
>
> In answer to your questions: You shouldn't have major difficulty using
> Windows 10.  I was reticent to install it for a few years, but when I
> did install it, It wasn't very difficult to use.  Your browsers:
> Firefox, and Chrome should work just about the same as with Windows
> 7.  Thunderbird also works without issues.
> The only major difference that I can see for normal operation is the
> Windows Explorer/My Computer now in Windows 10 known as This PC
> interface. It uses the ribbons.  However, you can easily achieve most
> operations such as creating a new folder and sorting and listing items
> via hotkeys and the context menu.  There is also a hack to restore
> This PC to the normal menu driven system of Windows 7 and earlier.
>
> For the installation, you might call the Microsoft phone for
> disability and ask them to install it remotely.  Lacking that, you can
> buy a new computer and it will come installed.
>
> Here is the phone number:
> Microsoft Disability Assistance Phone Number
> 1-800-936-5900
>
>
>
> On 9/17/2019 2:00 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
>>         HI Group:
>>
>>
>> Just recently, I received a notification on my computer telling me
>> that as of January that Windows Seven won't be supported anymore. My
>> question is what is the easiest way for me to obtain Windows Ten? 
>> When I get it, how would I set it up on my computer so I will be able
>> to navigate around?  I know nothing about this operating system.  Any
>> help would be greatly appreciated.  Will my programs read the same
>> way as they are now?
>>
>> Shelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Margaret Thomas
 

Thank you, thank you, Walter! I don't know how long I looked for a phone number. I had looked at support and didn't find anything, looked all over for contact us and only found a link under support to fill out a form. The captcha (sp.) comes up after the submit button.

The tech support person seemed to know that visually impaired computer users have trouble with those things and I asked him if they could do something like I am not a robot. He said one can e-mail

support@opendrive.com

which is perfectly doable.

I signed up with OpenDrive in July and wasn't feeling good then and it's not a great time to try to learn something new now, but I want to try.

One of my problems was that I got a message when I logged in that a new update was available. The Setup Wizard wanted me to agree with the license agreement, tell it where I wanted program files, etc. just like I did during the original setup and I was afraid continuing would mess up my setup. The tech support person asked for a screen shot, which I don't know how to do and just thanked him for giving me the support address. I decided to let the update finish and my test backups seem intact.

Today's project should be to make sure I can get something back to the computer if I accidentally lose it somehow.

Margaret

On 9/18/2019 10:14 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. There is a 24 hour help line but where on the site it is I can't remember. If you click on Support you might find it but when contacting support via email I've never encounterred a capcha. I've not been following this thread from it's beginning so what issue do you have with Open Drive?
I've just checked, here's the number they give, hope it helps. Walter.
Phone number.
(888) 418-1108
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 18 September 2019 14:40
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive
Walter and All:
I spent more time with OpenDrive overnight and made some progress and
hope to work on it again today.
Do you know if they have telephone support? I filled out a support form
only to run into a captcha (sp.). There was something billed as an
audio variant, where one could supposedly type the words heard, but they
were spoken at a thousand words per minute and I had to give up.
Any hints or suggestions for working with the service would be greatly
appreciated.
Margaret
On 9/17/2019 6:45 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Thanks, Walter.

I don't have any files I want to share and have save password and auto
log-in unchecked. The way things have been going, I'll lose the
password for secure.


Margaret

On 9/16/2019 2:28 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
block quote
Hi. When using the Secure folder for the first time you are asked to
create a password. This is a password different to your log in password
and has
no connection. It is very important you remember this password or keep
a copy somewhere because not even Open Drive can get access to the
secure folder.
If you lose or forget your password for the secure folder then you can
ask Open Drive to reset the folder but in doing so, you will lose all
the content
of that folder. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 16 September 2019 01:35
To:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Good Evening:

I apologize if my previous attempt at sending this did make it to the
list. It landed in my in-box and not in the folder where it should have
gone.

I got a licensed copy of OpenDrive to back up documents and files on my
Windows 7 machine a couple months ago. It was not a good time to try to
learn

something new then and, although now isn't much better, I want to try
again and hope some kind person who uses the service can help me get
started.

I downloaded and installed the app back then and created a test folder
in Documents and uploaded a couple test documents and put them in the
test folder.

When I logged in yesterday, I got a message saying that a new version
was available and asking if I wanted to update. I didn't click on yes.
Somewhere
it
seems to say that

version 1.7.4.15 is the most recent. Other than Programs and Features,
which says 1.7.4.9, how can I find out what version I have? Help in the
menu Is

about help for Windows and not OpenDrive. Is the new one accessible
with JAWS 2018, 2019 and NVDA 2019.1.1? Windows 10 is in the near future.

I was able to find the User Guide for the app on my previous attempt at
learning OpenDrive a couple months ago and, after some fumbling around
yesterday,
found
the darn thing. Am I missing something or is it not available on the
app or only on the page for

www.opendrive.com

I also have a question about uploading documents to the secure folder.
I think I read something during my previous learning attempt about a
second password

being necessary to complete it. Does this replace the password one
signs in with or are there two passwords needed to do different things.

I do not have experience with DropBox etc. and heartily disliked
OpenDrive on my earlier effort with the thing and, today, don't like it
any better.
Does anyone have any hints or suggestions for configuring the app so it
works better with JAWS and/or NVDA? I'm running Google Chrome and Firefox.

Any help getting my money's worth out of OpenDrive and feeling
comfortable with it would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret





Re: Windows Ten Question

Dave
 

Hello Shelly,


<Slight laugh>  As you can tell, opinions are all across the board as to
whether or not Win 10 would be a beneficial switch, or one that would be
more Headache than not.


If your System is 9 years old, it probably is going to run Win 10 slower
than it now runs Win 7.


Speaking for myself, if I were in your Shoes, I would just keep using
what you have, and start making plans to obtain another newer system
later down the road.    As mentioned before, even though Win 7 Support
is going away in a few months, Win 7 will continue to work until it
doesn't.  How long this might be, no one can tell you for sure.  I would
guess Win 7 would work for another two years after Support goes away,
but this is just a guess.


As for how to replace that computer with a Newer one, well, of course it
will require you to spend some money, and money for some is a hard thing
to come by.


I have purchased a number of Used Systems over the years, not only for
myself, but for my job as well.  And you can get a very good and
reliable System for a fraction of what something New would cost.   And
it would have Win 10 already installed.


Again, this is what I would be looking for if it were me  and so my
suggestion is a System I would be comfortable with, and that I know
would do the job, any job I threw at it.  Some here are going to tell
you that you could get by with a lot less.  You could, but I strongly
suggest to resist getting less power.  If you can afford it, get more
power, but not less!


Here are my suggested Minimums for a replacement System running Win 10.


I chose to go with a Desk top System.  If you prefer a Lap Top, then
those usually cost more, so figure to almost double the price for a Used
Lap Top.


If I were buying a System for you, it would have an I5 Quad Chip with at
least 3.0 GHZ.  Think of this Chip as the motor in a Car. The larger the
Motor, the more Power or Speed that Car has the ability to perform is
needed.   I would not get anything less than 3.0 ghz, and of course you
can always get something even faster if you can afford it.  This is a
minimum.


I would have 8 GB of Memory and at least 500 GB of Hard Drive Space.


For the tasks you use a computer to accomplish, this system would work
very well for you.  There are lots of Computers with a lot more Memory,
more Speed, and really Giant hard Drives.  Those all will cost more, and
for what you need, my suggestion is more than capable, but if you have
the extra money to spend, then Bigger and Faster is better than slower
and smaller. But I don't thik you would find fault with the System I
suggest for your needs.


OK what is something like this going to cost?


I just made an early morning visit over to Ebay.  Don't know if you have
ever gone to that web site, but it is the Giant Yard Sale in the Sky. 
You can buy just about anything over there.


So ran a search for desk top systems that had an I5 Quad Chip, 500 GB of
HD space, and 8 GB of memory.

The lowest price I saw was $120 and the price went up from there.     I
would think of spending $160 to $325 for a good quality replacement Desk
Top.    Some systems had Free Shipping, or others had shipping charges
added.


And when it comes to Use Gear, it comes in all conditions.  From looking
as if someone dropped it off the top floor of a 10 Story Building to
something that looks untouched by man's hands.


So figure to spend $160 to $325 for a replacement system, that will do
everything you need it to do and more, plus it will have Win 10 installed.


Now for the Fine Print Section of this long winded post-


Shelly, your current system should last you at least another year or
two, and perhaps more.  Win 7 will be like Win XP.  And some have ran
Win XP for several years after support was gone.  It really depends upon
what you need the computer to do.   So for the time being, you shouldn't
feel pressure to quickly buy another System.  You have some time.


Since I chose to look for Desk Tops instead of Lap Tops, I was assuming
you were using a Desk Top and so already had a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
and Speakers.


If your current System is 9 years old, you will need to purchase another
Keyboard and Mouse, since the ones you have today probably have the
older Round Connector that plugs into the back of the Tower.  These
Round Plugs and Sockets have been replaced on newer systems with extra
USB Ports.   as all new Keyboards and some Mice are now using a USB
connection.


I am always looking for the Perfect Keyboard, and so change mine out
fairly often.  I never buy a New one, but I do make a trip to my local
Thrift Store, and I have bought several Keyboards there, and they range
in price from $2 to maybe $5.  Same goes for a Mouse.  I rarely use one,
but the System likes to have one connected, plus Sighted friends need
one.  Mice too can be found at the local Thrift store for about $5.


Your current Monitor should work fine, as it is probably a VGA Monitor,
and since these used systems are also 3 or 4 years old, they would have
a BGA outlet on the back.


The one thing you may need to replace is your Printer, as there may not
be any Driver for your Printer Model for Win 10.  This isn't always a
Deal Buster, as sometimes you can get the Driver for Win 7 or 8 and
install it in Win 10.  I did this recently for my old Printer, and it
works fine.


Now if you have a Lap Top and wish to get another Lap Top, I would still
look for the same Chip, and memory and HD Size.  A Lap Top will cost you
more, and Lap Tops can be Abused and Well Used, but some can be found
that are still in Good Condition.  I would be a lot more careful when
purchasing a Used Lap Top.    But, for a Lap Top you might be paying an
extra $150 to$400 for a System.


If you, or anyone else have any questions, this List is the place to ask
them.  Ask away.


Hope this helps more than it Confuses,


Grumpy Dave


Major problems with Outlook 365

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2019 with outlook 365 on my Windows 10 PC. I’m using CathyAnne’s textbook to help me learn 365 but I’m running into major problems. This post is a little long but I appreciate your indulgence.

I had been using 365 for about a month when I felt comfortable enough to uninstall my Office 2010. After the uninstall, I discovered that the in box for my primary email account in 365 was empty. I called Microsoft, as I had a couple other 365 problems to discuss with them. The tech support person resolved one of the problems I had with 365 but caused other problems, as now my contacts are gone and most of my calendar items. I imported 2 .pst files created during the tech support session but my data is still missing. And I have a feeling I am not receiving all my mail with 365.

There are Jaws-specific problems which I have written to FS about but haven’t yet heard back. These issues include Jaws not consistently reporting message status; Crashes, hanging and slow performance and not seeing messages when I know they exist.

Troubleshooting this is difficult for me, as I believe part of the problem is 365, part is Jaws and part might be my PC.

In closing, let me be frank. Please don’t recommend Thunderbird. If TB was what I needed, I’d be using it. Those

using outlook 365 with Jaws or have relevant suggestions are strongly encouraged to reply.

 

Thanks much,

Norma

 


Re: How does this ssd connect

Steve Matzura
 

I would warn you away from the WD Blue line. Their ratings aren't very good. Try a Samsung or Crucial SSD instead.


But to answer your question properly about connecting the drive, yes, it's a sandard SATA series 3 connection, and yes, you can get a drive caddy or cage and put the drive inside, then connect it to any computer via USB, preferably USB 3.0.

On 9/17/2019 7:53 AM, Fanus wrote:
Hello list
I can get this ssd at a very good price. The description is: WD Blue 500GB
2.5" Sata3 3D NAND SSD
My question is how would this drive connect to a laptop? What does sata3
mean? Would it mean the usual sata connections like in a pc for connecting a
hard drive or is this a newer type for which one would need a special
connector? Would I be able to connect it as an external usb drive to my pc
or laptop?
Regards
Fanus


Re: Hackers, On Line Pirates an other Jerks

Steve Matzura
 

The checking is quick--a scan of your computer's open ports is accomplished in a second or two. You can go to http://www.grc.com and have your system scanned by one of the leaders in the anti-badware field, Gibson Research Corporation. If the report tells you that you have exposed ports, do whatever you have to do to mitigate those exposures. That can mean anything from  being more mindful of where you're going online, to stopping using a particular program with known exploits, to bolstering your firewall with some better access or denial rules.


Need direct download or Sendspace link for latest iTunes for Windows please

Peter Spitz
 

Let me explain why. I accidentally installed AVAST onto my laptop and
cannot figure out how to remove it. When I go to the link from the
Apple website to download iTunes from the Microsoft website, the site
is blocked by Avast for reasons I cannot explain.

Therefore, I am asking for someone to post a direct link or even
better, a Sendspace link for the latest iTunes for Windows.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Peter


Re: Windows Ten Question

chris judge
 

Especially when you have to factor in such things as screen readers and such.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 18, 2019 11:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

The minimum requirements for any version of Windows are the minimum under which it will run but it’s a bad idea to use the minum requirements.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:54 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

Here is the minimum requirement to run Windows 10 according to Microsoft But I think they are too minimum. I have a laptop with 1.7 GH and 3 GB RAM and windows 10 runs extremely slow in comparison to my Desktop with 3.2 GH and 8 GB RAM..

----- Original Message -----



 

1.       

Jun 19, 2019 - Windows 10 system requirements. Latest OS: Make sure you're running the latest version—either Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update. Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC. RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit. Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS or 20 GB for 64-bit OS. Graphics card: ...

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

I don't know if a nine-year-old computer has whatever is needed to run Windows 7 or to run it well in terms of what is actually in the computer.  For example, it doesn't use the newer BIOS system and I don't know if or how that might matter.  I hope others discuss this.  Computers that can do what you want to do aren't expensive these days and it might well either be necessary or make more sense just to get a new one with Windows 10 on it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:43 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

 

Thank you Ron!  I greatly appreciate you answering my question. My
computer will be nine years old in February but I really don't do much
with it.  Will Thunderbird work the same?  Occasionally, I will hit
control escape to bring up the start menu and get it that way but for
the most part, I use alt control T.  I also have shortcut keys for
Firefox and Chrome.  I really don't want to learn all about it basically
just the things I do.

Shelly

On 9/17/2019 10:09 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hello:
>
> In answer to your questions: You shouldn't have major difficulty using
> Windows 10.  I was reticent to install it for a few years, but when I
> did install it, It wasn't very difficult to use.  Your browsers:
> Firefox, and Chrome should work just about the same as with Windows
> 7.  Thunderbird also works without issues.
> The only major difference that I can see for normal operation is the
> Windows Explorer/My Computer now in Windows 10 known as This PC
> interface. It uses the ribbons.  However, you can easily achieve most
> operations such as creating a new folder and sorting and listing items
> via hotkeys and the context menu.  There is also a hack to restore
> This PC to the normal menu driven system of Windows 7 and earlier.
>
> For the installation, you might call the Microsoft phone for
> disability and ask them to install it remotely.  Lacking that, you can
> buy a new computer and it will come installed.
>
> Here is the phone number:
> Microsoft Disability Assistance Phone Number
> 1-800-936-5900
>
>
>
> On 9/17/2019 2:00 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
>>         HI Group:
>>
>>
>> Just recently, I received a notification on my computer telling me
>> that as of January that Windows Seven won't be supported anymore. My
>> question is what is the easiest way for me to obtain Windows Ten? 
>> When I get it, how would I set it up on my computer so I will be able
>> to navigate around?  I know nothing about this operating system.  Any
>> help would be greatly appreciated.  Will my programs read the same
>> way as they are now?
>>
>> Shelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. There is a 24 hour help line but where on the site it is I can't remember. If you click on Support you might find it but when contacting support via email I've never encounterred a capcha. I've not been following this thread from it's beginning so what issue do you have with Open Drive?

I've just checked, here's the number they give, hope it helps. Walter.

Phone number.
(888) 418-1108

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 18 September 2019 14:40
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Walter and All:

I spent more time with OpenDrive overnight and made some progress and
hope to work on it again today.

Do you know if they have telephone support? I filled out a support form
only to run into a captcha (sp.). There was something billed as an
audio variant, where one could supposedly type the words heard, but they
were spoken at a thousand words per minute and I had to give up.

Any hints or suggestions for working with the service would be greatly
appreciated.

Margaret


On 9/17/2019 6:45 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Thanks, Walter.

I don't have any files I want to share and have save password and auto
log-in unchecked. The way things have been going, I'll lose the
password for secure.


Margaret

On 9/16/2019 2:28 AM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:
block quote
Hi. When using the Secure folder for the first time you are asked to
create a password. This is a password different to your log in password
and has
no connection. It is very important you remember this password or keep
a copy somewhere because not even Open Drive can get access to the
secure folder.
If you lose or forget your password for the secure folder then you can
ask Open Drive to reset the folder but in doing so, you will lose all
the content
of that folder. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: 16 September 2019 01:35
To:
main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Help Getting Started With OpenDrive

Good Evening:

I apologize if my previous attempt at sending this did make it to the
list. It landed in my in-box and not in the folder where it should have
gone.

I got a licensed copy of OpenDrive to back up documents and files on my
Windows 7 machine a couple months ago. It was not a good time to try to
learn

something new then and, although now isn't much better, I want to try
again and hope some kind person who uses the service can help me get
started.

I downloaded and installed the app back then and created a test folder
in Documents and uploaded a couple test documents and put them in the
test folder.

When I logged in yesterday, I got a message saying that a new version
was available and asking if I wanted to update. I didn't click on yes.
Somewhere
it
seems to say that

version 1.7.4.15 is the most recent. Other than Programs and Features,
which says 1.7.4.9, how can I find out what version I have? Help in the
menu Is

about help for Windows and not OpenDrive. Is the new one accessible
with JAWS 2018, 2019 and NVDA 2019.1.1? Windows 10 is in the near future.

I was able to find the User Guide for the app on my previous attempt at
learning OpenDrive a couple months ago and, after some fumbling around
yesterday,
found
the darn thing. Am I missing something or is it not available on the
app or only on the page for

www.opendrive.com

I also have a question about uploading documents to the secure folder.
I think I read something during my previous learning attempt about a
second password

being necessary to complete it. Does this replace the password one
signs in with or are there two passwords needed to do different things.

I do not have experience with DropBox etc. and heartily disliked
OpenDrive on my earlier effort with the thing and, today, don't like it
any better.
Does anyone have any hints or suggestions for configuring the app so it
works better with JAWS and/or NVDA? I'm running Google Chrome and Firefox.

Any help getting my money's worth out of OpenDrive and feeling
comfortable with it would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret





Re: Windows Ten Question

Gene
 

The minimum requirements for any version of Windows are the minimum under which it will run but it’s a bad idea to use the minum requirements.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

Here is the minimum requirement to run Windows 10 according to Microsoft But I think they are too minimum. I have a laptop with 1.7 GH and 3 GB RAM and windows 10 runs extremely slow in comparison to my Desktop with 3.2 GH and 8 GB RAM..
----- Original Message -----
Jun 19, 2019 - Windows 10 system requirements. Latest OS: Make sure you're running the latest version—either Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update. Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC. RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit. Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS or 20 GB for 64-bit OS. Graphics card: ...
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

I don't know if a nine-year-old computer has whatever is needed to run Windows 7 or to run it well in terms of what is actually in the computer.  For example, it doesn't use the newer BIOS system and I don't know if or how that might matter.  I hope others discuss this.  Computers that can do what you want to do aren't expensive these days and it might well either be necessary or make more sense just to get a new one with Windows 10 on it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Question

Thank you Ron!  I greatly appreciate you answering my question. My
computer will be nine years old in February but I really don't do much
with it.  Will Thunderbird work the same?  Occasionally, I will hit
control escape to bring up the start menu and get it that way but for
the most part, I use alt control T.  I also have shortcut keys for
Firefox and Chrome.  I really don't want to learn all about it basically
just the things I do.

Shelly

On 9/17/2019 10:09 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hello:
>
> In answer to your questions: You shouldn't have major difficulty using
> Windows 10.  I was reticent to install it for a few years, but when I
> did install it, It wasn't very difficult to use.  Your browsers:
> Firefox, and Chrome should work just about the same as with Windows
> 7.  Thunderbird also works without issues.
> The only major difference that I can see for normal operation is the
> Windows Explorer/My Computer now in Windows 10 known as This PC
> interface. It uses the ribbons.  However, you can easily achieve most
> operations such as creating a new folder and sorting and listing items
> via hotkeys and the context menu.  There is also a hack to restore
> This PC to the normal menu driven system of Windows 7 and earlier.
>
> For the installation, you might call the Microsoft phone for
> disability and ask them to install it remotely.  Lacking that, you can
> buy a new computer and it will come installed.
>
> Here is the phone number:
> Microsoft Disability Assistance Phone Number
> 1-800-936-5900
>
>
>
> On 9/17/2019 2:00 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
>>         HI Group:
>>
>>
>> Just recently, I received a notification on my computer telling me
>> that as of January that Windows Seven won't be supported anymore. My
>> question is what is the easiest way for me to obtain Windows Ten? 
>> When I get it, how would I set it up on my computer so I will be able
>> to navigate around?  I know nothing about this operating system.  Any
>> help would be greatly appreciated.  Will my programs read the same
>> way as they are now?
>>
>> Shelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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