I would think that, but the only other account is the Gmail, whose intrusion is responsible for the problem in the first place.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:39 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.
Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.
I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following: /copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account. If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely discuss how to get around them. Gene On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do. If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them. I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox. To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem. Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed. Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it. Gene GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote: It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in. All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes. I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox. If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can. Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command. Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter. Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful. Gene On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote: I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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There are problems. I am not using Gmail; yet it is imposing on Windstream.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:35 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following: /copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do. If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them. I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox. To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem. Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed. Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it. Gene GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote: It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in. All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes. I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox. If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can. Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command. Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter. Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful. Gene On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote: I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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Well Mack, I did the rename as you suggested and it still happens. Howard
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I’m guessing by the subject line he is looking for a tutorial for the windows 10 mail app. I Know David More did one a number of years ago but I don’t have it now.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: June 21, 2022 7:52 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 Mail Tutorial What is the tutorial about? I haven't seen any response to your question in perhaps seven hours. Doing various google searches brought up no useful information about anything done by Dave Flushing.
Do you remember the name of the tutorial and have you done a Windows search for the file on your machine or just manually looked through certain folders?
Gene On 6/21/2022 9:45 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list Jim Flush wrote an excellent tutorial which I saved on my pc but now I can not find it. Can someone Please email it to me? Regards Fanus Sent from Mail for Windows
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Re: Mail App Tutorial by David Moore
There is no meaningful difference between the two. The main
advantage to Thunderbird portable is that you can put it on any
machine you want and have a backup. In other words, suppose you set
up an account and have an address book. When the program is
working and set up as you wish, you would make a backup, just copy
the folder containing the program somewhere else. then, if the copy
of the program you are using becomes corrupted, you wouldn't have to
troubleshoot in any way. You could just delete the folder and copy
the folder from the backup location to where you usually keep the
program.
As I understand it, you can copy all the information such as account
information and the address book from one installed Thunderbird to
another on another machine and I would think you could back up the
information and use it in an installed copy on any machine. I don't
think it is difficult, I think you just copy a folder in the
program. That's fine if people want to do that. I just want to
copy the folder containing the entire program from wherever it is to
wherever I want it, and to just delete a corrupt copy and place a
copy a good copy in that location if a copy I am using becomes
corrupted.
I'm sure there are tutorials about Thunderbird. I'll let others
discuss that.
Gene
On 6/22/2022 7:50 AM, Fanus wrote:
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Hello Gene
Thanks for your comments. What is the
difference between thunderbird portable and thunderbird. I
installed thunderbird but I do not quite understand how it
works, so is there a tutorial?
Regards
Fanus
Sent from Mail for Windows
If the Windows 10 Mail app meets your needs
and you want to use it, that's fine. But keep in mind that it
displays messages with the most recent at the top of the list
and the oldest at the bottom. To read messages in logical
order, you will have to start at the bottom of the list and
move up the list. I haven't seen any way to change the
order.
also, in the people app, I see no way to export contacts using
a comma separated values format nor do I see a way to import
an existing list of contacts using such a format. Without
this ability, if you have contacts in a different program that
you want to import, I wouldn't use the program.
I think Thunderbird Portable is a much better choice. You can
have the list of messages displayed in the order you want and
you can import address bookss. If I'm wrong and you can
import address books and export them, and others explain it,
that's fine. But it looks to me as though you are limited to
importing and exporting addresses from online accounts such as
if you use GMail in the web interface and you keep your
address book in the online GMail web interface account. If
so, this is a serious limitation and it should be discussed.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 8:57 PM, - wrote:
Here is the start of the tutorial.
Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.
By
David Moore
All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and
Calendar, are at the
end of this tutorial.
Intruduction:
I will Let you know this first. When
you import your email accounts into
the win10 Mail app,
your contacts are automatically imported into the People
app. All calendar
information, is imported into the Calendar app.
So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do
so in the people
app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three
apps work together to
give you that MS outlook client experience.
The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is
where you work with
and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of
your appointments
and much more.
Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch
to the Calendar app
or the People app.
Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.
Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email
services. You can add any
of these Microsoft accounts:
Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and
MSN.com. You can
also add any of these accounts:
Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or
IMAP server.
Section One
Launching the Windows 10 Mail App
So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for
the first time. The
way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape
and type mail. I
heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.
Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you
go, you have
launched the mail app for the first time. The first time
you open Mail,
you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get
Started. Now, you are
ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a
Microsoft Account,
your MS email account should already be imported into the
mail app.
Section Two:
Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your
Desktop, or pinning them
to your taskbar:
Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three
apps.
You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and
People, to your
taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.
To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows
key+R to open the
run dialog.
just type:
shell:appsfolder
In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just
press the first letter
of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.
Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.
Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:
Create short cut.
Enter on that, and you will hear:
Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on
the desktop
instead?
Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your
Desktop.
To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or
CTRL+Escape and type
Mail, for example.
When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or
Shift+F10 and arrow
down to:
Pin to taskbar and press enter.
The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.
You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.
Section Three
A Few Key Commands to get started:
Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The
tab key will get
you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will
take you to
different sections of the app. These three apps, mail,
people, and calendar
apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC
cursor with JAWS.
Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three
apps with NVDA.
Narrator works great as well.
When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to
be activated by
pressing:
Caps Lock+Spacebar.
That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with
Narrator.
You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.
You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a
message, Scan
Mode needs to be turnned off.
Scan Mode is just for reading.
When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a
virtual viewer so you
can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.
Now, to work with messages:
to send your message, press
alt+S.
To reply to a message:
press ctrl+R.
to forward a message:
press CTRL+F.
to create a new message:
press CTRL+N.
As you type the email address, choices will populate to
choose from.
To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.
You can then brows for the file you want to attach.
All other key commands for all three of these apps, will
be put at the end
of this tutorial.
Section Four:
Importing your first account into the Mail App
Now, let us add our first account.
From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to
manage accounts and
press enter.
If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the
Mail app, just Tab
to Manage Accounts and press enter.
Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.
You will be in a list of account types you can add. In
the Choose an
account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the
list of account
types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so
on). When you hear the name of your account type, press
Enter. For example,
if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google.
Next, Enter the
email address for the account that you want to add. Now,
tab to the password
box, and enter your password.
Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press
enter.
Now, press enter again on the:
done button.
Your email account should import into the Mail app in
seconds, and your
emails will be in your in box from the last three months.
Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing
Google, for
example, any account will import into this choice:
Go to the account choice:
other account, IMAP or POP.
Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice,
even a Google
account.
Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by
hand with all of
the settings.
For most accounts, your email and password will be enough
to import the
account.
The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on
this last choice
if you need to enter in all of your account settings by
hand.
The only reason why you need the advanced account choice
is to import a few
older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.
To import all of your accounts:
Just follow the same instructions written above.
You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter
on Add account,
for each account you import.
It is important that you know that your contacts for your
accounts, are
imported into the People app.
You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.
Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is
imported into the
Calendar App.
This is how all three apps work together to give you the
entire Email Client
experience.
After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts
menu, you will
see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could
have all messages
from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not
do this. Each
account should have its own inbox.
Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you
just added and see
what happens.
If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a
choice to delete the
account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app
anymore.
Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will
see that your emails
from three months ago will import. You can change this if
you want.
Also, You can change some settings about how the emails
are synced in the
mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.
Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be
back in your list
of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts
pane.
We are all done with the Manage accounts option.
Section Five:
Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key
Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail
App.
Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for
one of your
accounts.
A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will
begin to tab.
Now I will Tab.
I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.
Tabbing:
I hear Navigation button collapsed.
You want to press enter to hear:
Navigation button expanded.
If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the
Mail app.
Tab again, and you hear:
New Mail Button.
This is what you activate by pressing the key command:
CTRL+N
You do not need this button.
Tab: and you hear:
Manage accounts.
That is where we just were when you imported and
customized all of your
email accounts.
Tab:
You will see a list of all of your accounts once you
import them into the
Mail app.
If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages
for that account
will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.
Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.
You have Folders Button.
Sub Section:
Folders Button.
When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you
can do in here.
In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do
after you press enter
on Folders Button.
Press enter on Folders Button:
The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all
of your folders
for that email account.
You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and
press enter.
You are then put right in the list of messages for that
folder.
Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once,
you can press enter
on:
Create New Folder
As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name
of the new folder.
This will create a new folder for that account.
This is all in the Folders Button.
Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still
in that pane.
On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and
press:
Applications Key or Shift+F10.
You can now down arrow through the following choices:
Add to Favorites Button
Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list
of folders, so
you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to
find a folder.
Next choice when pressing applications Key:
, Create new subfolder Button
Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a
sub folder under
that main folder you arrowed to.
As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name
of the sub folder,
and press enter.
The third choice:
Rename Button
The fourth choice:
Delete Button
Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.
Fifth Choice:
Move Button
Sixth Choice:
Empty folder Button
Seventh and last Choice:
Pin to Start Button
To review:
When you arrow to a folder, you can press:
Applications Key or Shift+F10,
and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.
You can press enter on any of those choices to do the
action that it says.
We are all done with the Folders Button.
Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we
will start tabbing
again.
If you tab from the Folders Button,
You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.
You can just arrow down through this list of folders that
you chose to be
your favorite folders.
You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to
these.
They are right here in a list.
I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a
Saved folder that
I created, in my Favorites list.
I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do
not have to keep
pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those
Folders.
I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I
use the most.
Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me
right in the list of
messages for that folder.
You always get put right on the list of messages when you
enter on any
folder.
Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:
Moore Button.
This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!
Forget the More Button LOL!
Tab again:
Switch to Calendar Button:
Tab:
Switch to People Button:
Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of
those apps.
You can have all three opened at the same time.
Tab:
Settings Button:
Sub Section:
We have important stuff here, if we press enter on
Settings Button, so this
will be another sub section, like Folders Button.
Settings Button
Press Enter on Settings Button.
Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There
are some settings
that you might want to change or work with in these groups
of settings . The
two groups of settings you should open are the reading and
signature
settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.
Reading Settings
There are two choices you might want to change in this
settings group.
You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.
I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading
settings group.
Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that
turns on and off
conversation view.
You definitely want this button checked, because your
messages will be
grouped into their respective threads.
You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in
conversation view.
Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.
Each group of Settings has a back button you can press
enter on to get out
of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of
settings.
Signature Settings Group:
This is the only other group of settings where you need to
do anything.
Press Enter on Signature Settings.
In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to
have the same
signature
If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is
a signature that
is there by default.
It says:
sent from mail for windows 10.
If you want to create your own signature, check the
signature, and over
right that default signature to add your own signature you
want to appear
after every message that you send.
You can have different signatures for each account, or
have the same
signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.
If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to
uncheck the
signature toggle.
Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature
Settings Group.
If you press:
Escape
You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing
across the Mail
App.
That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.
There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the
list of messages.
Tab from Settings Button:
There is a search edit box.
If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search
box,
it will narrow down the list of email messages that have
that Name or phrase
in them.
This is a great way to find a particular message very
quickly.
I use this a lot.
You can get right to that search box,
by pressing:
CTRL+E
You do not have to tab to that LOL!
Tab, and you have:
Sync this View Button.
If you press that, your messages will load more quickly,
but they load
quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on
that:
sync this View button.
Tab again, and you have:
Enter Selection Mode Button.
This is important.
When you press enter on that button, you are on your list
of messages in
that folder, but now, there is a difference.
There is now a check box before each message that you can
press spacebar on
to check that message. You can check as many messages as
you want.
Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:
Enter sellection Mode Button was.
Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all,
check box not
checked.
you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You
have to tab twice
to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all
checked.
After you check messages, you can press the:
applications Key or Shift+F10
and you will have the following choices:
Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in
that context
menu.
If you press enter on delete, all messages that are
selected will be
deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all
folders come up, and
you can move your selected messages to another folder.
Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages
are moved to that
folder.
Section Six:
Working with your messages:
Now, we can start working with with our email messages for
what ever account
you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will
be in a virticle
list, and you just press enter on what ever account you
want to work with,
and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will
load.
Here we go LOL!
Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read
some of our
messages.
Just enter on the message you want to open. To read
messages with NVDA, you
must be in brows mode.
When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.
The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the
messages. To
attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be
in Focus mode with
NVDA.
With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read
messages.
To do everything else, even type a message, you need to
turn off scan mode.
Narrator works very well with the mail app.
Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just
like on the
Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select
and copy
information that is right in the message.
when you are done reading that message, just press escape
to get out of the
message and back to the list of messages
You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that
you want to do in
the mail app, even type a message.
Now, let me give you some important key commands right
here.
tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be.
Tabbing will get you
to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that
you enter on to
get a full list of folders for that account. When you are
on the list of
folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more
with your
folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder
for a particular
folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down
arrow to creat a
sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create
the sub folder for
and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type
the name of the sub
folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a
sub folder of a
folder that is already there. When you are on a message in
the list, you can
press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of
what you can do
with that message. One of these choices is move. If you
enter on move, you
will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I
created a folder
called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I
just move the
message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete,
the message goes
in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You
are put in the to:
edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab
to write your
message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back
on the list of
messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read
it, you can reply
to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and
press alt+S to send
your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just
press the delete
key to delete that message. To forward a message, just
press ctrl+F. To
spell check your message before sending, just press F7.
Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:
Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message,
three tabs show up on
the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon.
The first tab you
will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert
tab, and right arrow
again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if
you press alt a
second time while you are still in the mail app, you will
be on the tab that
you were last working with. If you were working with the
options tab lastly,
the options tab will show up, and you will have to left
arrow to get back to
insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a
couple of other
choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just
press the down
arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then,
press tab to tab
through all of the choices. For example, to insert an
attachment into an
email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab.
Then, press the down
arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not
say attach, this
is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab,
allows you to
insert different things into your email. Remember, you can
just press:
Alt+I to attach a file.
To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on
the ribbon. The
ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert
different things into the
email, or if you want to format the email.
Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These
are different
things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on
files, and you can
brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach,
and press enter on
the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you
are composing. If
you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file
that you attached to
your email. That is how people will find your attachments.
They will just
shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or
attached to your email.
Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject
line, and press
Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words,
when you are in a
message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information
like the subject,
the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not
key commands to read
this information to you like in other clients. When you
finish reading the
message, press the Escape key to return to the message
list. That is the
key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of
messages. If you
press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the
trash folder right
away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just
press alt, and arrow
to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format
choices if you want to
format your email. just tab through the choices. There are
many, you can do
about anything here to format your email text. For
example, if you down
arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold,
underline, and to do
other things to the text that you select in your email
that you are
composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last
tab, you will not
need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The
option for Spell
Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now,
here is the thing
about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the
win10 settings app,
by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your
spelling as you
type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app
qualifies for
that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and
press enter. Then, go
to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes.
The first says
something like correct spelling, and the second one says
something like high
light words that are misspelled. Check those two check
boxes and press
enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the
words will be
automatically corrected as you type them. However, this
feature will not
correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7
to do a total spell
check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app
spell check every
message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You
definitely have to
spell check every message that you compose before you send
it just like with
each document in Word.
Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.
Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and
calendar app, and
then you can use all three apps together as one email
client.
People app:
Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab
by a new button,
where you can manually enter the information for a new
contact. If you tab
passed the new button, you will come to a list of
contacts. You cannot use
first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but
here is what you
can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of
letters of the
alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation,
like you can now
use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you
want, and shift+tab
back to the list of contact starting with that letter.
Find the name you
want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit
where you can edit the
contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come
to profile. Tab
one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy
that email, you have
to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press
enter on copy. You
will then have that person's email copied to the clip
board. You can go to
the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send
them an email.
That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts
are imported into
the people app. As you type an email into the mail app,
the populated
choices come from the people app.
Calendar app:
Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into
month view. You
are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to
day. It will say
the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday,
October 28. You also
hear how many events are linked with that day, like
birthday's of your
contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on
the event to get
the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go
back to the day of
those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will
go forward a day
or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that
day, and downarrow
takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to
schedule an event for a
certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog
will come up for you
to enter all of the information for the appointment or
event, and there is
an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read
days, the events
for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day.
That is about it
for the calendar app.
Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use
all three apps:
Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)
CTRL+M
Or
F9
Mark as read
CTRL+Q
Mark as unread
CTRL+U
Toggle the important property on a conversation
CTRL+SHIFT+G
Delete a conversation
CTRL+D
Or
DEL
Archive a conversation
BACKSPACE
Reply to current mail
CTRL+R
Reply all
CTRL+SHIFT+R
Forward current mail
CTRL+F
Search
CTRL+E
Or
F3
Create a new mail
CTRL+N
Or
CTRL+SHIFT+M
Add Attachment
ALT+I
Send mail
ALT+S
Or
Ctrl + Enter
Switch to Inbox
CTRL+SHIFT+I
Switch to Outbox
CTRL+SHIFT+O
Zoom in
CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)
Zoom out
CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)
Move between regions
F6
Toggle Caret Browsing
F7
Key commands for the Calendar app:
Accept Meeting Invitation
Alt+C
Decline Meeting Invitation
Alt+D
Tentative Meeting Invitation
Alt+N
Move to View
CTRL+SHIFT+V
Switch to the calendar in the mail app
CTRL+2
Well, I hope you get so much good out
of this tutorial , and you can get a
lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps.
You can do a lot
with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the
taskbar, and have them
all opened at the same time
Take care,
David Moore
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Re: Mail App Tutorial by David Moore
Hello Gene Thanks for your comments. What is the difference between thunderbird portable and thunderbird. I installed thunderbird but I do not quite understand how it works, so is there a tutorial? Regards Fanus Sent from Mail for Windows
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From: GeneSent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:08 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.ioSubject: Re: [TechTalk] Mail App Tutorial by David Moore If the Windows 10 Mail app meets your needs and you want to use it, that's fine. But keep in mind that it displays messages with the most recent at the top of the list and the oldest at the bottom. To read messages in logical order, you will have to start at the bottom of the list and move up the list. I haven't seen any way to change the order.
also, in the people app, I see no way to export contacts using a comma separated values format nor do I see a way to import an existing list of contacts using such a format. Without this ability, if you have contacts in a different program that you want to import, I wouldn't use the program.
I think Thunderbird Portable is a much better choice. You can have the list of messages displayed in the order you want and you can import address bookss. If I'm wrong and you can import address books and export them, and others explain it, that's fine. But it looks to me as though you are limited to importing and exporting addresses from online accounts such as if you use GMail in the web interface and you keep your address book in the online GMail web interface account. If so, this is a serious limitation and it should be discussed.
Gene On 6/21/2022 8:57 PM, - wrote: Here is the start of the tutorial. Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps. By David Moore All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial. Intruduction: I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app, your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app. So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience. The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more. Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app. Many of the commands are the same as in WLM. Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services. You can add any of these Microsoft accounts: Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com. You can also add any of these accounts: Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server. Section One Launching the Windows 10 Mail App So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app. Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app. Section Two: Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar: Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps. You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts. To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog. just type: shell:appsfolder In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example. Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10. Now, press the up arrow key once to hear: Create short cut. Enter on that, and you will hear: Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead? Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop. To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example. When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to: Pin to taskbar and press enter. The Mail app will be on your Taskbar. You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps. Section Three A Few Key Commands to get started: Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well. When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing: Caps Lock+Spacebar. That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator. You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages. You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off. Scan Mode is just for reading. When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page. Now, to work with messages: to send your message, press alt+S. To reply to a message: press ctrl+R. to forward a message: press CTRL+F. to create a new message: press CTRL+N. As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from. To insert an attachment, press Alt+I. You can then brows for the file you want to attach. All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial. Section Four: Importing your first account into the Mail App Now, let us add our first account. From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter. If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter. Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter. You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password. Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter. Now, press enter again on the: done button. Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months. Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice: Go to the account choice: other account, IMAP or POP. Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account. Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings. For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account. The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand. The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand. To import all of your accounts: Just follow the same instructions written above. You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import. It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app. You can get to the People App right from the Mail app. Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App. This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience. After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox. Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens. If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore. Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want. Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all. Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane. We are all done with the Manage accounts option. Section Five: Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App. Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts. A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab. Now I will Tab. I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account. Tabbing: I hear Navigation button collapsed. You want to press enter to hear: Navigation button expanded. If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app. Tab again, and you hear: New Mail Button. This is what you activate by pressing the key command: CTRL+N You do not need this button. Tab: and you hear: Manage accounts. That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts. Tab: You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app. If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages. Now, we will tab from your list of accounts. You have Folders Button. Sub Section: Folders Button. When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here. In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button: The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account. You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter. You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder. Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on: Create New Folder As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder. This will create a new folder for that account. This is all in the Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane. On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press: Applications Key or Shift+F10. You can now down arrow through the following choices: Add to Favorites Button Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder. Next choice when pressing applications Key: , Create new subfolder Button Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to. As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter. The third choice: Rename Button The fourth choice: Delete Button Pressing enter there wil delete the folder. Fifth Choice: Move Button Sixth Choice: Empty folder Button Seventh and last Choice: Pin to Start Button To review: When you arrow to a folder, you can press: Applications Key or Shift+F10, and you get a menu of seven choices listed above. You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says. We are all done with the Folders Button. Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again. If you tab from the Folders Button, You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned. You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders. You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these. They are right here in a list. I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list. I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders. I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most. Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder. You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder. Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get: Moore Button. This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL! Forget the More Button LOL! Tab again: Switch to Calendar Button: Tab: Switch to People Button: Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps. You can have all three opened at the same time. Tab: Settings Button: Sub Section: We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button. Settings Button Press Enter on Settings Button. Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings. Reading Settings There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group. You can check or uncheck carrot browsing. I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group. Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view. You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads. You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view. Press enter on the back button to close the reading group. Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings. Signature Settings Group: This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything. Press Enter on Signature Settings. In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default. It says: sent from mail for windows 10. If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send. You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts. If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle. Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group. If you press: Escape You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App. That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings. There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages. Tab from Settings Button: There is a search edit box. If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box, it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them. This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly. I use this a lot. You can get right to that search box, by pressing: CTRL+E You do not have to tab to that LOL! Tab, and you have: Sync this View Button. If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that: sync this View button. Tab again, and you have: Enter Selection Mode Button. This is important. When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference. There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want. Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the: Enter sellection Mode Button was. Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked. you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked. After you check messages, you can press the: applications Key or Shift+F10 and you will have the following choices: Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu. If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder. Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder. Section Six: Working with your messages: Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load. Here we go LOL! Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages. Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode. When you type a message, you must be in focus mode. The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA. With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages. To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app. Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message. when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message. Now, let me give you some important key commands right here. tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7. Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app: Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press: Alt+I to attach a file. To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email. Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word. Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself. Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client. People app: Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app. Calendar app: Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app. Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps: Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail) CTRL+M Or F9 Mark as read CTRL+Q Mark as unread CTRL+U Toggle the important property on a conversation CTRL+SHIFT+G Delete a conversation CTRL+D Or DEL Archive a conversation BACKSPACE Reply to current mail CTRL+R Reply all CTRL+SHIFT+R Forward current mail CTRL+F Search CTRL+E Or F3 Create a new mail CTRL+N Or CTRL+SHIFT+M Add Attachment ALT+I Send mail ALT+S Or Ctrl + Enter Switch to Inbox CTRL+SHIFT+I Switch to Outbox CTRL+SHIFT+O Zoom in CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad) Zoom out CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad) Move between regions F6 Toggle Caret Browsing F7 Key commands for the Calendar app: Accept Meeting Invitation Alt+C Decline Meeting Invitation Alt+D Tentative Meeting Invitation Alt+N Move to View CTRL+SHIFT+V Switch to the calendar in the mail app CTRL+2 Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time Take care, David Moore
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Thank you Mack. I tried your rename folder solution. I imagine I'll have to restart Windows for it to work. We'll see.
Howard
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Re: Mail App Tutorial by David Moore
If the Windows 10 Mail app meets your needs and you want to use it,
that's fine. But keep in mind that it displays messages with the
most recent at the top of the list and the oldest at the bottom. To
read messages in logical order, you will have to start at the bottom
of the list and move up the list. I haven't seen any way to change
the order.
also, in the people app, I see no way to export contacts using a
comma separated values format nor do I see a way to import an
existing list of contacts using such a format. Without this
ability, if you have contacts in a different program that you want
to import, I wouldn't use the program.
I think Thunderbird Portable is a much better choice. You can have
the list of messages displayed in the order you want and you can
import address bookss. If I'm wrong and you can import address
books and export them, and others explain it, that's fine. But it
looks to me as though you are limited to importing and exporting
addresses from online accounts such as if you use GMail in the web
interface and you keep your address book in the online GMail web
interface account. If so, this is a serious limitation and it
should be discussed.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 8:57 PM, - wrote:
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Here you go:
Here is the start of the tutorial.
Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.
By
David Moore
All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar,
are at the
end of this tutorial.
Intruduction:
I will Let you know this first. When you import your email
accounts into
the win10 Mail app,
your contacts are automatically imported into the People app.
All calendar
information, is imported into the Calendar app.
So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in
the people
app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work
together to
give you that MS outlook client experience.
The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where
you work with
and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your
appointments
and much more.
Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the
Calendar app
or the People app.
Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.
Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services. You
can add any
of these Microsoft accounts:
Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and
MSN.com. You can
also add any of these accounts:
Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP
server.
Section One
Launching the Windows 10 Mail App
So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the
first time. The
way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and
type mail. I
heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.
Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you
have
launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you
open Mail,
you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started.
Now, you are
ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft
Account,
your MS email account should already be imported into the mail
app.
Section Two:
Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or
pinning them
to your taskbar:
Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.
You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People,
to your
taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.
To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R
to open the
run dialog.
just type:
shell:appsfolder
In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the
first letter
of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.
Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.
Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:
Create short cut.
Enter on that, and you will hear:
Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the
desktop
instead?
Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.
To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or
CTRL+Escape and type
Mail, for example.
When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or
Shift+F10 and arrow
down to:
Pin to taskbar and press enter.
The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.
You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.
Section Three
A Few Key Commands to get started:
Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab
key will get
you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take
you to
different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people,
and calendar
apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC
cursor with JAWS.
Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps
with NVDA.
Narrator works great as well.
When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be
activated by
pressing:
Caps Lock+Spacebar.
That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.
You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.
You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a
message, Scan
Mode needs to be turnned off.
Scan Mode is just for reading.
When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual
viewer so you
can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.
Now, to work with messages:
to send your message, press
alt+S.
To reply to a message:
press ctrl+R.
to forward a message:
press CTRL+F.
to create a new message:
press CTRL+N.
As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose
from.
To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.
You can then brows for the file you want to attach.
All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put
at the end
of this tutorial.
Section Four:
Importing your first account into the Mail App
Now, let us add our first account.
From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage
accounts and
press enter.
If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail
app, just Tab
to Manage Accounts and press enter.
Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.
You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the
Choose an
account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of
account
types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so
on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter.
For example,
if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next,
Enter the
email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to
the password
box, and enter your password.
Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.
Now, press enter again on the:
done button.
Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds,
and your
emails will be in your in box from the last three months.
Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing
Google, for
example, any account will import into this choice:
Go to the account choice:
other account, IMAP or POP.
Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a
Google
account.
Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand
with all of
the settings.
For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to
import the
account.
The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this
last choice
if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.
The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to
import a few
older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.
To import all of your accounts:
Just follow the same instructions written above.
You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on
Add account,
for each account you import.
It is important that you know that your contacts for your
accounts, are
imported into the People app.
You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.
Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported
into the
Calendar App.
This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire
Email Client
experience.
After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu,
you will
see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have
all messages
from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do
this. Each
account should have its own inbox.
Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just
added and see
what happens.
If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to
delete the
account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app
anymore.
Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that
your emails
from three months ago will import. You can change this if you
want.
Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are
synced in the
mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.
Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back
in your list
of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.
We are all done with the Manage accounts option.
Section Five:
Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key
Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.
Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of
your
accounts.
A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin
to tab.
Now I will Tab.
I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.
Tabbing:
I hear Navigation button collapsed.
You want to press enter to hear:
Navigation button expanded.
If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail
app.
Tab again, and you hear:
New Mail Button.
This is what you activate by pressing the key command:
CTRL+N
You do not need this button.
Tab: and you hear:
Manage accounts.
That is where we just were when you imported and customized all
of your
email accounts.
Tab:
You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them
into the
Mail app.
If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for
that account
will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.
Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.
You have Folders Button.
Sub Section:
Folders Button.
When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can
do in here.
In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you
press enter
on Folders Button.
Press enter on Folders Button:
The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of
your folders
for that email account.
You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press
enter.
You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.
Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can
press enter
on:
Create New Folder
As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the
new folder.
This will create a new folder for that account.
This is all in the Folders Button.
Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in
that pane.
On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:
Applications Key or Shift+F10.
You can now down arrow through the following choices:
Add to Favorites Button
Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of
folders, so
you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a
folder.
Next choice when pressing applications Key:
, Create new subfolder Button
Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub
folder under
that main folder you arrowed to.
As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the
sub folder,
and press enter.
The third choice:
Rename Button
The fourth choice:
Delete Button
Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.
Fifth Choice:
Move Button
Sixth Choice:
Empty folder Button
Seventh and last Choice:
Pin to Start Button
To review:
When you arrow to a folder, you can press:
Applications Key or Shift+F10,
and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.
You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action
that it says.
We are all done with the Folders Button.
Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will
start tabbing
again.
If you tab from the Folders Button,
You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.
You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you
chose to be
your favorite folders.
You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.
They are right here in a list.
I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved
folder that
I created, in my Favorites list.
I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not
have to keep
pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.
I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the
most.
Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in
the list of
messages for that folder.
You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter
on any
folder.
Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:
Moore Button.
This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!
Forget the More Button LOL!
Tab again:
Switch to Calendar Button:
Tab:
Switch to People Button:
Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those
apps.
You can have all three opened at the same time.
Tab:
Settings Button:
Sub Section:
We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings
Button, so this
will be another sub section, like Folders Button.
Settings Button
Press Enter on Settings Button.
Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some
settings
that you might want to change or work with in these groups of
settings . The
two groups of settings you should open are the reading and
signature
settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.
Reading Settings
There are two choices you might want to change in this settings
group.
You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.
I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings
group.
Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on
and off
conversation view.
You definitely want this button checked, because your messages
will be
grouped into their respective threads.
You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in
conversation view.
Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.
Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on
to get out
of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.
Signature Settings Group:
This is the only other group of settings where you need to do
anything.
Press Enter on Signature Settings.
In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have
the same
signature
If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a
signature that
is there by default.
It says:
sent from mail for windows 10.
If you want to create your own signature, check the signature,
and over
right that default signature to add your own signature you want
to appear
after every message that you send.
You can have different signatures for each account, or have the
same
signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.
If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck
the
signature toggle.
Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings
Group.
If you press:
Escape
You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing
across the Mail
App.
That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.
There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list
of messages.
Tab from Settings Button:
There is a search edit box.
If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,
it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that
Name or phrase
in them.
This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.
I use this a lot.
You can get right to that search box,
by pressing:
CTRL+E
You do not have to tab to that LOL!
Tab, and you have:
Sync this View Button.
If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but
they load
quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:
sync this View button.
Tab again, and you have:
Enter Selection Mode Button.
This is important.
When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of
messages in
that folder, but now, there is a difference.
There is now a check box before each message that you can press
spacebar on
to check that message. You can check as many messages as you
want.
Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:
Enter sellection Mode Button was.
Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box
not
checked.
you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have
to tab twice
to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all
checked.
After you check messages, you can press the:
applications Key or Shift+F10
and you will have the following choices:
Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that
context
menu.
If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected
will be
deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders
come up, and
you can move your selected messages to another folder.
Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are
moved to that
folder.
Section Six:
Working with your messages:
Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what
ever account
you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in
a virticle
list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to
work with,
and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.
Here we go LOL!
Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of
our
messages.
Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages
with NVDA, you
must be in brows mode.
When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.
The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the
messages. To
attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in
Focus mode with
NVDA.
With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.
To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off
scan mode.
Narrator works very well with the mail app.
Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like
on the
Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and
copy
information that is right in the message.
when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get
out of the
message and back to the list of messages
You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want
to do in
the mail app, even type a message.
Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.
tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing
will get you
to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you
enter on to
get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the
list of
folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with
your
folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a
particular
folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow
to creat a
sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub
folder for
and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name
of the sub
folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub
folder of a
folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the
list, you can
press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what
you can do
with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on
move, you
will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I
created a folder
called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just
move the
message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the
message goes
in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are
put in the to:
edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to
write your
message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the
list of
messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it,
you can reply
to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press
alt+S to send
your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press
the delete
key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press
ctrl+F. To
spell check your message before sending, just press F7.
Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:
Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three
tabs show up on
the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The
first tab you
will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and
right arrow
again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you
press alt a
second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on
the tab that
you were last working with. If you were working with the options
tab lastly,
the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to
get back to
insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple
of other
choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press
the down
arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab
to tab
through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment
into an
email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then,
press the down
arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say
attach, this
is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows
you to
insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just
press:
Alt+I to attach a file.
To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the
ribbon. The
ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different
things into the
email, or if you want to format the email.
Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are
different
things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files,
and you can
brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and
press enter on
the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are
composing. If
you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you
attached to
your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They
will just
shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to
your email.
Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and
press
Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when
you are in a
message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the
subject,
the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key
commands to read
this information to you like in other clients. When you finish
reading the
message, press the Escape key to return to the message list.
That is the
key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of
messages. If you
press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash
folder right
away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press
alt, and arrow
to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if
you want to
format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many,
you can do
about anything here to format your email text. For example, if
you down
arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold,
underline, and to do
other things to the text that you select in your email that you
are
composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you
will not
need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option
for Spell
Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here
is the thing
about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10
settings app,
by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your
spelling as you
type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app
qualifies for
that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press
enter. Then, go
to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The
first says
something like correct spelling, and the second one says
something like high
light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and
press
enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will
be
automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature
will not
correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a
total spell
check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell
check every
message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You
definitely have to
spell check every message that you compose before you send it
just like with
each document in Word.
Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.
Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and
calendar app, and
then you can use all three apps together as one email client.
People app:
Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a
new button,
where you can manually enter the information for a new contact.
If you tab
passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You
cannot use
first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here
is what you
can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters
of the
alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like
you can now
use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and
shift+tab
back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the
name you
want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you
can edit the
contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to
profile. Tab
one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that
email, you have
to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on
copy. You
will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You
can go to
the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them
an email.
That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are
imported into
the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the
populated
choices come from the people app.
Calendar app:
Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month
view. You
are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day.
It will say
the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28.
You also
hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's
of your
contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the
event to get
the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to
the day of
those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go
forward a day
or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day,
and downarrow
takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an
event for a
certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will
come up for you
to enter all of the information for the appointment or event,
and there is
an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days,
the events
for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That
is about it
for the calendar app.
Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:
Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)
CTRL+M
Or
F9
Mark as read
CTRL+Q
Mark as unread
CTRL+U
Toggle the important property on a conversation
CTRL+SHIFT+G
Delete a conversation
CTRL+D
Or
DEL
Archive a conversation
BACKSPACE
Reply to current mail
CTRL+R
Reply all
CTRL+SHIFT+R
Forward current mail
CTRL+F
Search
CTRL+E
Or
F3
Create a new mail
CTRL+N
Or
CTRL+SHIFT+M
Add Attachment
ALT+I
Send mail
ALT+S
Or
Ctrl + Enter
Switch to Inbox
CTRL+SHIFT+I
Switch to Outbox
CTRL+SHIFT+O
Zoom in
CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)
Zoom out
CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)
Move between regions
F6
Toggle Caret Browsing
F7
Key commands for the Calendar app:
Accept Meeting Invitation
Alt+C
Decline Meeting Invitation
Alt+D
Tentative Meeting Invitation
Alt+N
Move to View
CTRL+SHIFT+V
Switch to the calendar in the mail app
CTRL+2
Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and
you can get a
lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You
can do a lot
with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar,
and have them
all opened at the same time
Take care,
David Moore
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Re: Mail App Tutorial by David Moore
Thank you verry, very much. This is very helpful. Regards Fanus
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On 6/22/22, - <mwb5781@...> wrote: Here you go:
Here is the start of the tutorial. Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps. By David Moore All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial. Intruduction:
I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app, your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app. So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience. The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more. Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app. Many of the commands are the same as in WLM. Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services. You can add any of these Microsoft accounts: Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com. You can also add any of these accounts: Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.
Section One Launching the Windows 10 Mail App So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app. Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.
Section Two: Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar: Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps. You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts. To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog. just type: shell:appsfolder In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example. Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10. Now, press the up arrow key once to hear: Create short cut. Enter on that, and you will hear: Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead? Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop. To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example. When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to: Pin to taskbar and press enter. The Mail app will be on your Taskbar. You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.
Section Three A Few Key Commands to get started: Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well. When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing: Caps Lock+Spacebar. That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator. You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages. You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off. Scan Mode is just for reading. When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page. Now, to work with messages: to send your message, press alt+S. To reply to a message: press ctrl+R. to forward a message: press CTRL+F. to create a new message: press CTRL+N. As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from. To insert an attachment, press Alt+I. You can then brows for the file you want to attach. All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.
Section Four: Importing your first account into the Mail App Now, let us add our first account. From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter. If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter. Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter. You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password. Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter. Now, press enter again on the: done button. Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months. Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice: Go to the account choice: other account, IMAP or POP. Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account. Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings. For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account. The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand. The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand. To import all of your accounts: Just follow the same instructions written above. You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import. It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app. You can get to the People App right from the Mail app. Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App. This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience. After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox. Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens. If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore. Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want. Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all. Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane. We are all done with the Manage accounts option.
Section Five: Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App. Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts. A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab. Now I will Tab. I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account. Tabbing: I hear Navigation button collapsed. You want to press enter to hear: Navigation button expanded. If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app. Tab again, and you hear: New Mail Button. This is what you activate by pressing the key command: CTRL+N You do not need this button. Tab: and you hear: Manage accounts. That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts. Tab: You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app. If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages. Now, we will tab from your list of accounts. You have Folders Button. Sub Section: Folders Button. When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here. In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button: The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account. You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter. You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder. Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on: Create New Folder As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder. This will create a new folder for that account. This is all in the Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane. On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press: Applications Key or Shift+F10. You can now down arrow through the following choices: Add to Favorites Button Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder. Next choice when pressing applications Key: , Create new subfolder Button Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to. As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter. The third choice: Rename Button The fourth choice: Delete Button Pressing enter there wil delete the folder. Fifth Choice: Move Button Sixth Choice: Empty folder Button Seventh and last Choice: Pin to Start Button To review: When you arrow to a folder, you can press: Applications Key or Shift+F10, and you get a menu of seven choices listed above. You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says. We are all done with the Folders Button. Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again. If you tab from the Folders Button, You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned. You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders. You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these. They are right here in a list. I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list. I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders. I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most. Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder. You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder. Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get: Moore Button. This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL! Forget the More Button LOL! Tab again: Switch to Calendar Button: Tab: Switch to People Button: Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps. You can have all three opened at the same time. Tab: Settings Button:
Sub Section: We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button. Settings Button Press Enter on Settings Button. Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings. Reading Settings There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group. You can check or uncheck carrot browsing. I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group. Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view. You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads. You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view. Press enter on the back button to close the reading group. Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings. Signature Settings Group: This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything. Press Enter on Signature Settings. In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default. It says: sent from mail for windows 10. If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send. You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts. If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle. Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group. If you press: Escape You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App. That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings. There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages. Tab from Settings Button: There is a search edit box. If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box, it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them. This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly. I use this a lot. You can get right to that search box, by pressing: CTRL+E You do not have to tab to that LOL! Tab, and you have: Sync this View Button. If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that: sync this View button. Tab again, and you have: Enter Selection Mode Button. This is important. When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference. There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want. Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the: Enter sellection Mode Button was. Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked. you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked. After you check messages, you can press the: applications Key or Shift+F10 and you will have the following choices: Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu. If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder. Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.
Section Six: Working with your messages: Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load. Here we go LOL! Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages. Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode. When you type a message, you must be in focus mode. The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA. With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages. To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app. Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message. when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message. Now, let me give you some important key commands right here. tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7. Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app: Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press: Alt+I to attach a file. To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email. Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word. Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself. Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client. People app: Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app. Calendar app: Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.
Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps: Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail) CTRL+M Or F9 Mark as read CTRL+Q Mark as unread CTRL+U Toggle the important property on a conversation CTRL+SHIFT+G Delete a conversation CTRL+D Or DEL Archive a conversation BACKSPACE Reply to current mail CTRL+R Reply all CTRL+SHIFT+R Forward current mail CTRL+F Search CTRL+E Or F3 Create a new mail CTRL+N Or CTRL+SHIFT+M Add Attachment ALT+I Send mail ALT+S Or Ctrl + Enter Switch to Inbox CTRL+SHIFT+I Switch to Outbox CTRL+SHIFT+O Zoom in CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad) Zoom out CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad) Move between regions F6 Toggle Caret Browsing F7 Key commands for the Calendar app: Accept Meeting Invitation Alt+C Decline Meeting Invitation Alt+D Tentative Meeting Invitation Alt+N Move to View CTRL+SHIFT+V Switch to the calendar in the mail app CTRL+2
Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time Take care, David Moore
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This week on Eyes On Success: The Candy In My Pocket
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Mail App Tutorial by David Moore
Here you go:
Here is the start of the tutorial. Tutorial on
Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps. By David Moore All key
commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of
this tutorial. Intruduction:
I will Let you know this first. When you
import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app, your contacts are
automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is
imported into the Calendar app. So, if you want to work with your contacts,
you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like
this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client
experience. The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where
you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your
appointments and much more. Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you
can switch to the Calendar app or the People app. Many of the
commands are the same as in WLM. Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of
email services. You can add any of these Microsoft
accounts: Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and
MSN.com. You can also add any of these accounts: Gmail, Yahoo Mail,
iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.
Section One Launching the Windows 10 Mail
App So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time.
The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail.
I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app. Now, press enter, and
the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the
first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen.
Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail
App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already
be imported into the mail app.
Section Two: Putting the Mail, Calendar, and
People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar: Finally,
let us begin to learn how to use these three apps. You may want to pin all
three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your
desktop as short cuts. To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press
Windows key+R to open the run dialog. just
type: shell:appsfolder In a second, all of your apps will be in a list.
Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for
example. Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10. Now, press the up
arrow key once to hear: Create short cut. Enter on that, and you will
hear: Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop
instead? Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your
Desktop. To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape
and type Mail, for example. When you hear Mail, just press the
appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to: Pin to taskbar and
press enter. The Mail app will be on your Taskbar. You can do the same for
the Calendar and People apps.
Section Three A Few Key Commands to get
started: Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab
key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take
you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and
calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor
with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps
with NVDA. Narrator works great as well. When you read messages with
Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing: Caps
Lock+Spacebar. That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with
Narrator. You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages. You want it
off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to
be turnned off. Scan Mode is just for reading. When a message is opened
with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual
cursor, just like in a web page. Now, to work with messages: to send
your message, press alt+S. To reply to a message: press ctrl+R. to
forward a message: press CTRL+F. to create a new message: press
CTRL+N. As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose
from. To insert an attachment, press Alt+I. You can then brows for the
file you want to attach. All other key commands for all three of these apps,
will be put at the end of this tutorial.
Section Four: Importing your first account into
the Mail App Now, let us add our first account. From the list of messages
for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter. If you do
not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage
Accounts and press enter. Next, tab to the Add account button and press
enter. You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the
Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of
account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so on).
When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if
you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the
email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password
box, and enter your password. Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in
button and press enter. Now, press enter again on the: done
button. Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and
your emails will be in your in box from the last three months. Now,
if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example,
any account will import into this choice: Go to the account choice: other
account, IMAP or POP. Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this
choice, even a Google account. Only a few POP email Accounts will have to
be imported by hand with all of the settings. For most accounts, your
email and password will be enough to import the account. The last account
choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to
enter in all of your account settings by hand. The only reason why you need
the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set
them up by hand. To import all of your accounts: Just follow the same
instructions written above. You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts,
and enter on Add account, for each account you import. It is important
that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the
People app. You can get to the People App right from the Mail app. Also,
all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar
App. This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email
Client experience. After you add your accounts, notice in the manage
accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you
could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would
not do this. Each account should have its own inbox. Now, let us press
enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens. If
you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the
account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore. Also,
if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from
three months ago will import. You can change this if you want. Also, You can
change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I
would not mess with that at all. Now, just press escape to get out of that,
and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the
manage accounts pane. We are all done with the Manage accounts
option.
Section Five: Navigating the Maiol App with the
Tab Key Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App. Make
sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your
accounts. A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will
begin to tab. Now I will Tab. I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook
account. Tabbing: I hear Navigation button collapsed. You want to press
enter to hear: Navigation button expanded. If you do not do this, you will
not see everything in the Mail app. Tab again, and you hear: New Mail
Button. This is what you activate by pressing the key
command: CTRL+N You do not need this button. Tab: and you
hear: Manage accounts. That is where we just were when you imported and
customized all of your email accounts. Tab: You will see a list of all
of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app. If you press
enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and
you are put in the inbox of messages. Now, we will tab from your list
of accounts. You have Folders Button. Sub Section: Folders
Button. When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in
here. In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press
enter on Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button: The first
thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that
email account. You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and
press enter. You are then put right in the list of messages for that
folder. Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press
enter on: Create New Folder As soon as you press enter, you have to
type in the name of the new folder. This will create a new folder for that
account. This is all in the Folders Button. Press enter on Folders Button,
again, if you are not still in that pane. On your list of folders, you can
arrow to a folder, and press: Applications Key or Shift+F10. You can now
down arrow through the following choices: Add to Favorites Button Pressing
Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not
have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder. Next choice
when pressing applications Key: , Create new subfolder Button Pressing
enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main
folder you arrowed to. As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the
name of the sub folder, and press enter. The third
choice: Rename Button The fourth choice: Delete
Button Pressing enter there wil delete the folder. Fifth Choice: Move
Button Sixth Choice: Empty folder Button Seventh and last
Choice: Pin to Start Button To review: When you arrow to a folder, you
can press: Applications Key or Shift+F10, and you get a menu of seven
choices listed above. You can press enter on any of those choices to do the
action that it says. We are all done with the Folders Button. Now, make
sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing
again. If you tab from the Folders Button, You are on your list of
Favorite Folders I mentioned. You can just arrow down through this list of
folders that you chose to be your favorite folders. You do not have to
enter on the Folders Button to get to these. They are right here in a
list. I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder
that I created, in my Favorites list. I keep those four folders in that
favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders
Button to get to those Folders. I can just tab over to this list of four
folders that I use the most. Pressing enter on one of those four folders will
put me right in the list of messages for that folder. You always get put
right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder. Now, we will
tab from this favorites list, and we get: Moore Button. This is the exact
copy of the Folders Button LOL! Forget the More Button LOL! Tab
again: Switch to Calendar Button: Tab: Switch to People
Button: Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those
apps. You can have all three opened at the same time. Tab: Settings
Button:
Sub Section: We have important stuff here, if
we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like
Folders Button. Settings Button Press Enter on Settings Button. Now,
let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that
you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two
groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings.
Do not mess with the other groups of settings. Reading Settings There are
two choices you might want to change in this settings group. You can check or
uncheck carrot browsing. I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the
reading settings group. Now, in this reading group, there is also a button
that turns on and off conversation view. You definitely want this button
checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective
threads. You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in
conversation view. Press enter on the back button to close the reading
group. Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get
out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of
settings. Signature Settings Group: This is the only other group of
settings where you need to do anything. Press Enter on Signature
Settings. In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the
same signature If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is
a signature that is there by default. It says: sent from mail
for windows 10. If you want to create your own signature, check the
signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature
you want to appear after every message that you send. You can have
different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all
accounts by checking all accounts. If you want no signature, you can just
press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle. Press the Back Button, to
get out of the Signature Settings Group. If you press: Escape You are
back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail
App. That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings. There
are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages. Tab
from Settings Button: There is a search edit box. If you type any name, or
phrase, and so on in that search box, it will narrow down the list of email
messages that have that Name or phrase in them. This is a great way to
find a particular message very quickly. I use this a lot. You can get
right to that search box, by pressing: CTRL+E You do not have to tab to
that LOL! Tab, and you have: Sync this View Button. If you press that,
your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me,
and I do not have to press enter on that: sync this View button. Tab
again, and you have: Enter Selection Mode Button. This is
important. When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of
messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference. There is now a
check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that
message. You can check as many messages as you want. Now, if you shift tab
twice, you are back to where the: Enter sellection Mode Button was. Now,
there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not
checked. you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have
to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all
checked. After you check messages, you can press the: applications Key or
Shift+F10 and you will have the following choices: Archive, Delete, Move,
and a few less important choices in that context menu. If you press enter
on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press
enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your
selected messages to another folder. Just press enter on the folder, and the
selected messages are moved to that folder.
Section Six: Working with your
messages: Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what
ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in
a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to
work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will
load. Here we go LOL! Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and
read some of our messages. Just enter on the message you want to open. To
read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode. When you type a
message, you must be in focus mode. The only time you want to be in Brows
Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example,
you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA. With Narrator, you want to be in
scan mode to read messages. To do everything else, even type a message, you
need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail
app. Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on
the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy
information that is right in the message. when you are done reading that
message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of
messages You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to
do in the mail app, even type a message. Now, let me give you some
important key commands right here. tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you
want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the
folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that
account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and
press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To
create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again,
and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder
you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. .
Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That
is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you
are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or
shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these
choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you
can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when
I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages
folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a
message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the
email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message,
press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After
you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just
type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the
list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To
forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before
sending, just press F7. Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app: Here we go
with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the
ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will
hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again
to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second
time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you
were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the
options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to
insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other
choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down
arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab
through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an
email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down
arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this
is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to
insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just
press: Alt+I to attach a file. To attach anything else, you must go
to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you
want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the
email. Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are
different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files,
and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and
press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you
are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file
that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your
attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted
or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the
subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other
words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the
information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on.
There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other
clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return
to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back
to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it
goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your
email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to
the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the
choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email
text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be
choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you
select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the
third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the
options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your
message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You
can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10
correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a
win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the
devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter.
Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and
the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled.
Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail
app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them.
However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where
you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to
have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it
like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you
compose before you send it just like with each document in Word. Well, we
have covered everything with the mail app itself. Now, I will show you
quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all
three apps together as one email client. People app: Launch the People
app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can
manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new
button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter
navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab
one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again,
you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all
apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list
of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few
more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's
information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more
time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press
the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then
have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail
app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it
with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people
app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from
the people app. Calendar app: Launch the calendar app, and press
alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the
week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example,
you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked
with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each
event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you
shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right
and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you
a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that
day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on
that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information
for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you
go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to
schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar
app.
Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three
apps: Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new
mail) CTRL+M Or F9 Mark as read CTRL+Q Mark as
unread CTRL+U Toggle the important property on a
conversation CTRL+SHIFT+G Delete a
conversation CTRL+D Or DEL Archive a
conversation BACKSPACE Reply to current mail CTRL+R Reply
all CTRL+SHIFT+R Forward current
mail CTRL+F Search CTRL+E Or F3 Create a new
mail CTRL+N Or CTRL+SHIFT+M Add Attachment ALT+I Send
mail ALT+S Or Ctrl + Enter Switch to Inbox CTRL+SHIFT+I Switch
to Outbox CTRL+SHIFT+O Zoom in CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad) Zoom
out CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad) Move between regions F6 Toggle
Caret Browsing F7 Key commands for the Calendar app: Accept Meeting
Invitation Alt+C Decline Meeting Invitation Alt+D Tentative Meeting
Invitation Alt+N Move to View CTRL+SHIFT+V Switch to the calendar in
the mail app CTRL+2
Well, I hope you get so much good out of this
tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and
calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of
them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time Take
care, David Moore
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On the message itself, for you to change the account you are sending from, hit alt - m. that will trigger the from button on the message pane. your window must be maximized or a certain size to see that from button.
when you are done with the message, hit alt - s, that will trigger the send action. n that button as what i mentioned earlier
to trigger the send action or you have multiple unsend messages in your outbox, in the main outlook window, hit the follow key. alt - j a
to trigger send and receive in outlook, both send and receive action, do hit ctrl - m
to see the send and receive progress, hit alt - j p
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 05:39, Gene < gsasner@...> wrote:
there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how
you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.
Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In
e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you
get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever
works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.
I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and
worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things
in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened
message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
You
can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the
clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to
whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it
from the other account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will
likely discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold
wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.
If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.
I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.
Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.
Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.
All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.
I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.
Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.
Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
Gene
On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:
I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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Re: Windows 10 Mail Tutorial
I meant Jim Flush.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 5:51 PM, Gene via
groups.io wrote:
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What is the tutorial about? I haven't seen any response to your
question in perhaps seven hours. Doing various google searches
brought up no useful information about anything done by Dave
Flushing.
Do you remember the name of the tutorial and have you done a
Windows search for the file on your machine or just manually
looked through certain folders?
Gene
On 6/21/2022 9:45 AM, Fanus wrote:
Hello list
Jim Flush wrote an excellent tutorial
which I saved on my pc but now I can not find it. Can
someone Please email it to me?
Regards
Fanus
Sent from Mail for Windows
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Re: Windows 10 Mail Tutorial
What is the tutorial about? I haven't seen any response to your
question in perhaps seven hours. Doing various google searches
brought up no useful information about anything done by Dave
Flushing.
Do you remember the name of the tutorial and have you done a Windows
search for the file on your machine or just manually looked through
certain folders?
Gene
On 6/21/2022 9:45 AM, Fanus wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hello list
Jim Flush wrote an excellent tutorial which
I saved on my pc but now I can not find it. Can someone Please
email it to me?
Regards
Fanus
Sent from Mail for Windows
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You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the
outbox, shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to
see if you can change the account it is sent from. While this
doesn't work in Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just
checked.
Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird
isn't, this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in
Thunderbird.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:
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I just
tried this in Thunderbird. My second solution, the one I discuss
in the below quoted message, may not work. When a message is in
the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further. I can
open it and read it but I can't make any changes.
However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier
than the copy and paste solution. In Thunderbird, I can forward
messages that are in the outbox. You can try that.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via
groups.io wrote:
there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure
how you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.
Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from.
In e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing
until you get to the from line. From there, you up or down
arrow, whichever works, to change the account the message is to
be sent from.
I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and
worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change
things in messages are the same as though you were working with
an opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
You
can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the
clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message
to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and
send it from the other account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will
likely discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn
Arnold wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.
If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.
I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.
Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.
Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.
All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.
I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.
Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.
Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
Gene
On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:
I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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I just tried this in Thunderbird. My second solution, the one I
discuss in the below quoted message, may not work. When a message
is in the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further. I
can open it and read it but I can't make any changes.
However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier
than the copy and paste solution. In Thunderbird, I can forward
messages that are in the outbox. You can try that.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via
groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure
how you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.
Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In
e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you
get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever
works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.
I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and
worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change
things in messages are the same as though you were working with an
opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
You
can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the
clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to
whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it
from the other account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will
likely discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn
Arnold wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.
If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.
I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.
Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.
Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.
All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.
I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.
Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.
Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
Gene
On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:
I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how
you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.
Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In
e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you
get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever
works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.
I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and
worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things
in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened
message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
You
can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the
clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to
whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it
from the other account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will
likely discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold
wrote:
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.
If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.
I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.
Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.
Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.
All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.
I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.
Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.
Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
Gene
On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:
I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard.
Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is
intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other
account.
If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely
discuss how to get around them.
Gene
On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold
wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.
If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.
I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.
Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.
Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.
All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.
I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.
Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.
Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
Gene
On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:
I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.
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