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Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Gerald Levy
 


Gene, because you, by your own admission, do not use Google Chrome, your analysis is not accurate.  Using Chrome, whenever I have encountered an "I am not a robot" check box and checked it, I have always been able to bypass visual captchas and audio challenges.  But the same may not be true of other Chromium based browsers like Brave and Edge, because they are rivals to Chrome and so have not received authorization from Google to bypass captchas with its proprietary recaptcha system. I suspect that Chrome, unlike other browsers, may recognize that the user is using a screen reader and so bypasses the captcha step to make the process accessible to the blind and hearing impaired.   


Gerald



On 3/6/2021 7:35 PM, Gene wrote:
The check box is intended to show the captcha that the person using it isn't a robot.  the captcha analyzes the way the mouse moves on the page and infers whether the person is a human.  If that inference indicates the user isn't a human, or may not be, a visual captcha is presented to the sighted user and a blind user can get an audio captcha.

At times those working from the keyboard are approved without a captcha.  At times they aren't.  I don't know if I believe the captcha can tell to an extent if someone is using a keyboard and infer whether the user is a human but it isn't nearly as accurate.

If only a checkbox were used without the analysis I described, then a machine would be able to check the checkbox and the captcha would be worthless.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

But the checkbox verifies that he's not a robot. In  other words solves the
capcha.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

You don't bypass the captcha. You may be approved or you may have to solve
an audio captcha.  Either may happen after you check the check box.  You
should be able to use the check box with other browsers as well.  I don't
think it works with Internet Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com



Or a Chromium based browser (such as Microsoft Edge.)







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com







If memory serves, the Next Door site has one of those "I am not a robot"
check boxes.  If you use Google Chrome, you can check this box to bypass the

captcha.



Gerald







On 3/6/2021 2:42 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



Hi all, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. I am trying to join
nexgtdoor.com and it has a captcha thing. How do I get past that? Jim























Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


I found that with next door, it was very difficult for me using the app.  I get a daily digest on the computer that comes in my email and I can enter on the link and hit H for heading and then I can read what's there.  I find the computer is easier to comment on things.  When I was using the app, whenever I clicked on my notifications, I had trouble reading and responding to stuff on there.  If you know of an easier way to use this app, please let me know.

Shelly

On 3/6/2021 8:05 PM, Andy wrote:
Actually Nextdoor was a big help to me last spring when i couldn't locate face masks.  it seemed like every place was sold out,a nd it would take two months to get them from Amazon.  I put out an inquiry on nextdoor, and got several responses from folks in my neighborhood who were making masks at home.  Some folks charged a little, but many were giving them out for free.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com


Jim is an Androidean!  We run into each other regularly in our Androidville
Village Square.  Yes, NextDoor is also an Android app and signing up with it
is so much easier than trying to do it on a computer.

Personally, I find the app really, really boring!  Virtually everyone on
there in my neighbourhood are always LOSING THEIR DOGS AND CATS!  I do
wonder why they bother to have pets of any kind when they're not
particularly ready and available to care for and protect their pets.  I
don't have a pet for two reasons:  First, I am allergic to fur and constant
shedding may send me gate crashing seven feet below this ground; second, I'm
NOT AVAILABLE to care for a pet and it will be a sin to neglect it assuming
I find one that won't shed hair at all.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado









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Re: TNeed Tablet recommendation

Michael Amaro
 

with voice assistant.  Or windows 10

Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] TNeed Tablet recommendation

Hello Michael,
Were you looking for a tablet with are you voice assistant or just a general android tablet? Feel free to email me off list to discuss this further.

Ashley

On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Michael Amaro <mikeameli@...> wrote:


Hello Listers,
 
I am  looking in to purchasing a tablet.  I want to be able to use zoom browse the net email listen to music.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Michael
 
Email:
 
 
JFK"What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."


Re: Acrobat Reader DC

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

While it is all well and good that you can change the default open file for any and all documents, I personally prefer the Microsoft Edge browser to open PDF documents. time and time again, I have found that it renders PDF content in a more accurate and orderly form than does Acrobat Reader.  This of course, if while using a screen reader and the virtual buffer that is a part of all major screen readers now of days.  I have no idea if this is true for sighted usage.

On 3/6/2021 10:53 PM, Allen West wrote:
Thanks for this. It should have that easy. I had to go into the
Control Panel on both computers and Enter on the Default Apps link and
Enter on Change Account Types, select Adobe Acrobat and Shift F10 on
it. Then I had to select Change and run a repair. After that, I was
able to perform the steps you posted.

Allen

On 3/5/21, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Windows updates tend to change things. To change it back, do the following:


1. Find a PDF with File Explorer.

2. Open the Properties sheet for the PDF you found by pressing ALT+ENTER.

3. Tab to the "Change" button, or press its shortcut, ALT+C.

4. Use the Up and Down Arrow keys to find Adobe Acrobat Reader DC in the
list of applications for opening Portable Document Format files.

5. Tab to and activate the OK button.

6. Tab to and activate the Apply button, or press its shortcut key,
ALT+A. NOTE: If no change was made in Step 4, the Apply button will
either be grayed, dimmed, or just plain not on the screen. Don't worry
if you can't find it, and if you press ALT+A and it isn't there, nothing
will happen.

7. Press ENTER to close the Properties sheet dialog.


All done.


On 3/5/2021 9:18 AM, Allen West wrote:
Hi,

I have always been able to make Acrobat Reader DC the default for
opening PDF's. In the past week, I have tried to make this change on
two computers. The default is MS Edge. Has something changed?
I'm trying to help two friends. If you know, please let me know.

Thanks

Alllen








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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: TNeed Tablet recommendation

 

Hello Michael,
Were you looking for a tablet with are you voice assistant or just a general android tablet? Feel free to email me off list to discuss this further.

Ashley

On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Michael Amaro <mikeameli@...> wrote:


Hello Listers,
 
I am  looking in to purchasing a tablet.  I want to be able to use zoom browse the net email listen to music.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Michael
 
Email:
 
 
JFK"What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Victor
 

Indirectly, next-door was a big help to me last summer after my apartment was burglarized. The burglar left my wallet and scattered its contents along a nearby neighborhood and people through the next-door application helped me retrieve those items. They found them and they let me know that they found them through the app and I was able to retrieve those items from those individuals. I can see how the app could be helpful to people and I am keeping it on my phone in case I ever need it again or in case I can offer assistance to someone.

I agree with you about pets. I don’t think most people have any business owning pets because they can’t take care of them.

Blessings,

Victor

On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Andy <wq6r@socal.rr.com> wrote:

Actually Nextdoor was a big help to me last spring when i couldn't locate face masks. it seemed like every place was sold out,a nd it would take two months to get them from Amazon. I put out an inquiry on nextdoor, and got several responses from folks in my neighborhood who were making masks at home. Some folks charged a little, but many were giving them out for free.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com


Jim is an Androidean! We run into each other regularly in our Androidville
Village Square. Yes, NextDoor is also an Android app and signing up with it
is so much easier than trying to do it on a computer.

Personally, I find the app really, really boring! Virtually everyone on
there in my neighbourhood are always LOSING THEIR DOGS AND CATS! I do
wonder why they bother to have pets of any kind when they're not
particularly ready and available to care for and protect their pets. I
don't have a pet for two reasons: First, I am allergic to fur and constant
shedding may send me gate crashing seven feet below this ground; second, I'm
NOT AVAILABLE to care for a pet and it will be a sin to neglect it assuming
I find one that won't shed hair at all.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado








Re: Microsoft Word

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Well, Colonel Monte, yours Unfaithfully is still running Office Ultimate
2007! Micro$ tells me it has expired, but it still GETS THE JOB DONE RIGHT
for me; the best and greatest, in my experience, does have a habit of
breaking what used to work.

Right now, for Samsung toy devotees, ever since the toys got Android11
update, the screen reader bundled with the update has screwed up
interactions with icons on an otherwise good toy. The fiasco is on to have
Samsung rewrite the wrong, but is the conglomerate listening? We'll see
with a March Security Update.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Microsoft Word

Monte Single
 

Hi Olusegun,

I can appreciate someone phing a hundred bucks for ms office when it
comes with a 5 person licence, butt when it is for a single user, it's
just a waste of money.
Of course, there are people who have money to waste, that's good.
...and then there are those who really don't have the money to waste but
think they need to spend a couple hundred when they can really get what
they need for 20 or 30 bucks.
I am using Office 2016my google assistant just told me that micro soft will
provide security updates for it till October of2025.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: March 6, 2021 8:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Microsoft Word

Colonel Monte wrote in part:

"I purchased the full micro soft office suite from amazon for about 30
bucks."

That's why I love hanging out with you at the garrison; why do I need a
monthly or an annual subscription when I can grab the software and install
it on my toy? I have the silly suite running on My Shiny Android toys for
zero pennies. Of course, I'm willing to pay to purchase a copy for my
computer toys whilst I still have them, but I DO NOT wish to pay $100
especially since I'd only wind up using one or two programs contained in the
suite.

Anyhow, I'm a crazy, nonconformist child and my rules should only apply to
me and my two left legs!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Microsoft Word

Monte Single
 

Note, read the description before you purchase m s office on line or at a
store.
Some versions come on a cd/dvd while others are just the key code for
the product.
The one that comes on a cd/dvd is always more expensive than the one where
you just purchase the key code, and then download the actual software from
the micro soft store.

If you want to get m s outlook when you purchase a copy of ms office, make
sure you get the one that includes outlook, I think the student edition
does not include outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: March 6, 2021 9:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Microsoft Word

Troy, I'm sure if you type Microsoft Word into a search engine, it will push
to you more sites than you can shake a stick at where you can grab a copy of
this and that. For a start, amazon.com is your friend; newegg.com will be
glad you came home to shop as well.

If push comes to shove, how about a trip to either Bestbuy or Microcenter?
I'm sure they'll be glad to hook you up. Oh, don't forget TigerDirect.com,
I think they're still alive!

Alternately, have a college student help you grab a copy from their school's
bookstore. They can get it dirt cheap too!

I believe you can buy just Word by itself; however, what happens down the
line if you need Outlook for E-mail and such? Then you'll go grab Outlook?
Hmm, I'd strongly suggest you buy the suite that includes Outlook and
PowerPoint, and just play ball with whichever one you love to use on a
regular basis.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Acrobat Reader DC

Allen West
 

Thanks for this. It should have that easy. I had to go into the
Control Panel on both computers and Enter on the Default Apps link and
Enter on Change Account Types, select Adobe Acrobat and Shift F10 on
it. Then I had to select Change and run a repair. After that, I was
able to perform the steps you posted.

Allen

On 3/5/21, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Windows updates tend to change things. To change it back, do the following:


1. Find a PDF with File Explorer.

2. Open the Properties sheet for the PDF you found by pressing ALT+ENTER.

3. Tab to the "Change" button, or press its shortcut, ALT+C.

4. Use the Up and Down Arrow keys to find Adobe Acrobat Reader DC in the
list of applications for opening Portable Document Format files.

5. Tab to and activate the OK button.

6. Tab to and activate the Apply button, or press its shortcut key,
ALT+A. NOTE: If no change was made in Step 4, the Apply button will
either be grayed, dimmed, or just plain not on the screen. Don't worry
if you can't find it, and if you press ALT+A and it isn't there, nothing
will happen.

7. Press ENTER to close the Properties sheet dialog.


All done.


On 3/5/2021 9:18 AM, Allen West wrote:
Hi,

I have always been able to make Acrobat Reader DC the default for
opening PDF's. In the past week, I have tried to make this change on
two computers. The default is MS Edge. Has something changed?
I'm trying to help two friends. If you know, please let me know.

Thanks

Alllen









Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Andy
 

Actually Nextdoor was a big help to me last spring when i couldn't locate face masks. it seemed like every place was sold out,a nd it would take two months to get them from Amazon. I put out an inquiry on nextdoor, and got several responses from folks in my neighborhood who were making masks at home. Some folks charged a little, but many were giving them out for free.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com


Jim is an Androidean! We run into each other regularly in our Androidville
Village Square. Yes, NextDoor is also an Android app and signing up with it
is so much easier than trying to do it on a computer.

Personally, I find the app really, really boring! Virtually everyone on
there in my neighbourhood are always LOSING THEIR DOGS AND CATS! I do
wonder why they bother to have pets of any kind when they're not
particularly ready and available to care for and protect their pets. I
don't have a pet for two reasons: First, I am allergic to fur and constant
shedding may send me gate crashing seven feet below this ground; second, I'm
NOT AVAILABLE to care for a pet and it will be a sin to neglect it assuming
I find one that won't shed hair at all.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado





Re: Microsoft Word

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Troy, I'm sure if you type Microsoft Word into a search engine, it will push
to you more sites than you can shake a stick at where you can grab a copy of
this and that. For a start, amazon.com is your friend; newegg.com will be
glad you came home to shop as well.

If push comes to shove, how about a trip to either Bestbuy or Microcenter?
I'm sure they'll be glad to hook you up. Oh, don't forget TigerDirect.com,
I think they're still alive!

Alternately, have a college student help you grab a copy from their school's
bookstore. They can get it dirt cheap too!

I believe you can buy just Word by itself; however, what happens down the
line if you need Outlook for E-mail and such? Then you'll go grab Outlook?
Hmm, I'd strongly suggest you buy the suite that includes Outlook and
PowerPoint, and just play ball with whichever one you love to use on a
regular basis.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Microsoft Word

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Colonel Monte wrote in part:

"I purchased the full micro soft office suite from amazon for about 30
bucks."

That's why I love hanging out with you at the garrison; why do I need a
monthly or an annual subscription when I can grab the software and install
it on my toy? I have the silly suite running on My Shiny Android toys for
zero pennies. Of course, I'm willing to pay to purchase a copy for my
computer toys whilst I still have them, but I DO NOT wish to pay $100
especially since I'd only wind up using one or two programs contained in the
suite.

Anyhow, I'm a crazy, nonconformist child and my rules should only apply to
me and my two left legs!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Jim is an Androidean! We run into each other regularly in our Androidville
Village Square. Yes, NextDoor is also an Android app and signing up with it
is so much easier than trying to do it on a computer.

Personally, I find the app really, really boring! Virtually everyone on
there in my neighbourhood are always LOSING THEIR DOGS AND CATS! I do
wonder why they bother to have pets of any kind when they're not
particularly ready and available to care for and protect their pets. I
don't have a pet for two reasons: First, I am allergic to fur and constant
shedding may send me gate crashing seven feet below this ground; second, I'm
NOT AVAILABLE to care for a pet and it will be a sin to neglect it assuming
I find one that won't shed hair at all.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Jim, sometimes, the "I'M NOT A ROBOT" CAPTCHA checkbox DOES NOT change state
using a screen reader. In other words, you press <enter> on it and it says
"checkbox, unchecked."

When this happens, I simply tab around until I find GET AN AUDIO CHALLENGE
and that typically takes care of things for me. Sometimes, I have to GET
MORE THAN ONE AUDIO CHALLENGE in order to make sense of the words or
incomplete sentences I am being asked to type in the edit box. The
background audio noise isn't helpful either and I wonder why having such
noise is necessary. But, which rules DID I MAKE?

I hope the info shared herein is a tad helpful; I have ONLY SHARED that
which I have experienced. Now, I'm going back to being a robot as that's my
regular scheduled program!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


TNeed Tablet recommendation

Michael Amaro
 

Hello Listers,
 
I am  looking in to purchasing a tablet.  I want to be able to use zoom browse the net email listen to music.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Michael
 
Email:
 
 
JFK"What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Gene
 

The robot would have to fill out a captcha so it would be no better off than with a captcha without the check box. I don't know what the algorithm might look for to try to determine if a human pressed the space bar. perhaps it’s the amount of time between coming to the page and pressing it. I don't know if it can take other things into account or what they might be. With a mouse, its very different. It can tell how the mouse is being moved.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

How does checking a box I mean can it tell a keyboard press is checking a
box?
Could a non human do this?
I'm guessing not...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

The check box is intended to show the captcha that the person using it isn't
a robot. the captcha analyzes the way the mouse moves on the page and
infers whether the person is a human. If that inference indicates the user
isn't a human, or may not be, a visual captcha is presented to the sighted
user and a blind user can get an audio captcha.

At times those working from the keyboard are approved without a captcha. At
times they aren't. I don't know if I believe the captcha can tell to an
extent if someone is using a keyboard and infer whether the user is a human
but it isn't nearly as accurate.

If only a checkbox were used without the analysis I described, then a
machine would be able to check the checkbox and the captcha would be
worthless.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

But the checkbox verifies that he's not a robot. In other words solves the
capcha.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

You don't bypass the captcha. You may be approved or you may have to solve
an audio captcha. Either may happen after you check the check box. You
should be able to use the check box with other browsers as well. I don't
think it works with Internet Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com



Or a Chromium based browser (such as Microsoft Edge.)







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com







If memory serves, the Next Door site has one of those "I am not a robot"
check boxes. If you use Google Chrome, you can check this box to bypass the

captcha.



Gerald







On 3/6/2021 2:42 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



Hi all, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. I am trying to join
nexgtdoor.com and it has a captcha thing. How do I get past that? Jim


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

John Holcomb II
 

How does checking a box I mean can it tell a keyboard press is checking a
box?
Could a non human do this?
I'm guessing not...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

The check box is intended to show the captcha that the person using it isn't
a robot. the captcha analyzes the way the mouse moves on the page and
infers whether the person is a human. If that inference indicates the user
isn't a human, or may not be, a visual captcha is presented to the sighted
user and a blind user can get an audio captcha.

At times those working from the keyboard are approved without a captcha. At
times they aren't. I don't know if I believe the captcha can tell to an
extent if someone is using a keyboard and infer whether the user is a human
but it isn't nearly as accurate.

If only a checkbox were used without the analysis I described, then a
machine would be able to check the checkbox and the captcha would be
worthless.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

But the checkbox verifies that he's not a robot. In other words solves the
capcha.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

You don't bypass the captcha. You may be approved or you may have to solve
an audio captcha. Either may happen after you check the check box. You
should be able to use the check box with other browsers as well. I don't
think it works with Internet Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com



Or a Chromium based browser (such as Microsoft Edge.)







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com







If memory serves, the Next Door site has one of those "I am not a robot"
check boxes. If you use Google Chrome, you can check this box to bypass the

captcha.



Gerald







On 3/6/2021 2:42 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



Hi all, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. I am trying to join
nexgtdoor.com and it has a captcha thing. How do I get past that? Jim


Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Andy
 

If you have an iPhone you might want to consider using the app. It is a lot easier to sign up using the iPhone app.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com


The check box is intended to show the captcha that the person using it isn't a robot. the captcha analyzes the way the mouse moves on the page and infers whether the person is a human. If that inference indicates the user isn't a human, or may not be, a visual captcha is presented to the sighted user and a blind user can get an audio captcha.

At times those working from the keyboard are approved without a captcha. At times they aren't. I don't know if I believe the captcha can tell to an extent if someone is using a keyboard and infer whether the user is a human but it isn't nearly as accurate.

If only a checkbox were used without the analysis I described, then a machine would be able to check the checkbox and the captcha would be worthless.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

But the checkbox verifies that he's not a robot. In other words solves the
capcha.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

You don't bypass the captcha. You may be approved or you may have to solve
an audio captcha. Either may happen after you check the check box. You
should be able to use the check box with other browsers as well. I don't
think it works with Internet Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com



Or a Chromium based browser (such as Microsoft Edge.)







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com







If memory serves, the Next Door site has one of those "I am not a robot"
check boxes. If you use Google Chrome, you can check this box to bypass the

captcha.



Gerald







On 3/6/2021 2:42 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



Hi all, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. I am trying to join
nexgtdoor.com and it has a captcha thing. How do I get past that? Jim





















Re: having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

Gene
 

The check box is intended to show the captcha that the person using it isn't a robot. the captcha analyzes the way the mouse moves on the page and infers whether the person is a human. If that inference indicates the user isn't a human, or may not be, a visual captcha is presented to the sighted user and a blind user can get an audio captcha.

At times those working from the keyboard are approved without a captcha. At times they aren't. I don't know if I believe the captcha can tell to an extent if someone is using a keyboard and infer whether the user is a human but it isn't nearly as accurate.

If only a checkbox were used without the analysis I described, then a machine would be able to check the checkbox and the captcha would be worthless.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 6:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

But the checkbox verifies that he's not a robot. In other words solves the
capcha.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com

You don't bypass the captcha. You may be approved or you may have to solve
an audio captcha. Either may happen after you check the check box. You
should be able to use the check box with other browsers as well. I don't
think it works with Internet Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com



Or a Chromium based browser (such as Microsoft Edge.)







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having trouble joining nexrtdoor.com







If memory serves, the Next Door site has one of those "I am not a robot"
check boxes. If you use Google Chrome, you can check this box to bypass the

captcha.



Gerald







On 3/6/2021 2:42 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



Hi all, I am running jaws 18 and windows ten. I am trying to join
nexgtdoor.com and it has a captcha thing. How do I get past that? Jim

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