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Re: more on my dell laptop PC

Gene
 

Anyone can have an opinion about anything.  I can be the judge of anything I wish.  Others may agree or disagree.  But life is one judgment after another. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

but if they have the money to spend, it's their business. You cannot be the judge of this. Also, I am confident in my computer knowledge to know what I need and want.


On 12/26/2016 6:54 AM, Gene wrote:
But the buyer can't judge unless he/she knows enough to make a judgment.  Given how little people know about computers, I suspect many people spend more than they need, sometimes quite a bit more.  And I suspect salespeople sometimes or perhaps rather often contribute to them doing so. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

however, you cannot be a judge of this. The buyer is the ultimate judge in this. Also, it stands that having more power than you need is better than having less than you need and having your pc become unusable from processor load when performing tasks.


On 12/25/2016 9:36 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't say that everyone should get cheap machines.  I don't follow various kinds and models of chips so I can't respond to your specific chip descriptions.  I'm saying that many people probably spend more than they need to, at times quite a bit more.  I'm not advocating that everyone do anything.  I'm saying that the majority of users don't need machines in the eight, nine hundred or higher price range to meet their needs.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

of course this is your opinion. I personally, would never buy an underpowered, slow, inadequate, anemic, and cheap I3 processor of any type if I could scrape up enough money to get at least an i5. There are some specs I just do not go under.  Advocating that everyone get a cheap system is wrong in my opinion.


On 12/25/2016 7:13 PM, Gene wrote:
Perhaps.  Saying deceived assumes intent.  We don't know what was said by either party in explanation or answer.  My question is how much more money was spent and if the standard processor was gotten instead at a lower price, would it make any difference in performance as the computer will be used?  My guess is that it will make no difference or no noticeable difference.  This computer is probably so much overkill for how it will be used that you could probably have spend hundreds less dollars and had little or no noticeable difference in performance. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

They certainly deceived him. They should not have said quad core. When
they say quad core, they always mean 4 physical cores.


On 12/25/2016 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> Matt, in the morning, it might be a good idea to call Dell
> Customer Services and see if they can help you clarify what
> you are uncertain about.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
>
> Well got my laptop today and been working o it.
>
> Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has
> 4 processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or
> I don't know where to look at.
>
> So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two
> USB ports. One on each side.   Here is what it is saying: 2
> USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
> 1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
> 1 Headset jack
> 1 Noble lock slot
> 1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
> Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2
> (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter
>
>  
>
> So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or
> atleast feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use
> this like a USB port?
>
> Also what is : 1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and
> feel like maybe?
>
> What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?
>
> There is also on the left side feels like a button and
> pushes in like one but don't seem to popop out like a SD
> card reader  it only seems to push in and seems to do
> nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole maybe for speakers
> or mic  or line in maybe. So maybe this button changes
> between them depending on what you got plut in to them?
>
> Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop
> display? I can go into device manager and disable it but
> don't know what would happen. Do they make a third party say
> screen curtain that would just black out the display? Like
> on your iPhone or mac if you had one?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.from.florida@...
> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: keyboard with no applications key

Gene
 

Try using the simulated mouse commands I gave. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Lenron
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key

I hate the keyboard I use now because it doesn't have an applications
key. using shift f10 in sendspace doesn't work the way it should so I
end up having to use the applications key on my laptop. To get it to
do what I want.

On 12/26/16, Rob <captinlogic@...> wrote:
> Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrrote:
>> I  think the actual reason has more to do with economizing space since
>> most
>> wireless keyboards tend to be smaller.
>
>
> I think it's both.
> If you talk to the average computer user, they have no idea about keyboard
> shortcuts. At all. They don't even know what alt f4 does.
> Maybe your experience is different, but that's mine.
>
>
>
>


--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



Re: jaws and abby fine reader

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
300DPI is adequate for most print and it is used as the default by Openbook, Curzweil, and probably Fine Reader as well. It takes longer to scan at 600DPI and will add nothing to accuracy.
Indeed, scanning text at higher resolutions often decreases accuracy. If there are artifacts on the pages, for example, the hhigher resolution will pick those up, and your OCR will be hindered by them. I recommend scanning at 3 or 400 DPI; only photos and such need DPI above that.
Do not attempt to read text within finereader itself. The window is not a standard control. Instead, if you're only scanning a single document page, use the
"Scan && read"
option.
Then, once scanning and reading has finished, hit control A to select all, open a document in your favorite word processor and paste with control V. You can then edit as necessary.
if scanning a large document such as a book, hit control K within Finereader. This is the hotkey for image scanning only. You can then scan multiple images, one after another. Once that has finished, you can control shift tab back to the list of pages and read them all. Then you can export the document into rtf, doc or whatever, and then edit in word or your favorite word processor.
You can of course have the images recognized as you scan them, but I personally like to scan all the images and then read all at once after you're done. It's a choice; do whatever feels best for you.


Re: jaws and abby fine reader

Gene
 

300DPI is adequate for most print and it is used as the default by Openbook, Curzweil, and probably Fine Reader as well.  It takes longer to scan at 600DPI and will add nothing to accuracy. 
 
In cases where very small print is used, 400DPI may increase accuracy but 600 should never be beneficial.  I would also suspect that this increases conversion time because there would be a larger image with more useless information.  That isn't to say that, given whatever problem you had, that switching to 600
DPI in your case didn't help.  But using the correct settings, this shouldn't be beneficial. 
 
I would suggest consulting the manual if you want to find out how to set such settings as the kind of scan parameters used.  In my old version, considerably older than yours, once yu initiate a scan, at least under some conditions, you can tab around a dialog and see various settings.  However, my version is so old that this may not apply in newer versions.  Also, these settings are not available in the menus. 
 
Also, I don't know what contrast settings are being used.  I'm not expert enough in the names of various settings to tell you just what they might be called.  But it isn't a good idea to use a contrast setting that uses one number, such as 50, as the contrast for all scans.  Nor is it a good idea to use a setting that does a sample scan every time and then attempts to determine the best scanning settings for every scan.  But again, I don't know enough about the proper names to tell you the best scan settings.  One list where you might get information is the book share list. A resource where people with a lot of experience in scanning such as that list would be a place to ask where you might get results for your brand of OCR program. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws and abby fine reader

Hello:

I just thought I would chime in here with an update to the abby fine reader thread, as it did not generate much interest.

I went into the options and checked a couple of different options and I’m not saying it made the difference but since I didn’t receive many suggestions, what the heck so I did it anyways.

Off hand, since this was a while ago, I don’t remember all I changed. I just remember edges, headers and footers, water marks, I unchecked, wait, the detect edges I checked. Again, I’m not sure if any of this made a difference, but scanning plain text, the resolution at 600 *(before I had and was using 300) and I think that was it as it relates to all I did.

 

I rescanned a document from Friday when I tried it, and this time it came out excelent.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws and abby fine reader

 

I have a very old version of Fine reader.  My settings options may not apply to yours.  You need to adjust the scanning settings.  What choices to you have such as auto, professional, etc? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 4:39 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] jaws and abby fine reader

 

Hi,

 

I’m using latest jaws 17 on a windows 10 pro and abby fine reader version 12.

I’ve never been able to scan and read documents. I need help.

I’ve put the paper in the scanner, clicked scan to word, selected plain text, I think it’s called dtI? I chose 300, scanned it and I just get jibrish. I mean, it’ll read text here and there but I find myself needing to decipher what has been scanned.

How can I get a crisp and clear document to read?

Thanks.

 

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: keyboard with no applications key

Gene
 

The right click key, both in NVDA and JAWS is the times key on the numpad.  It's the third key on the top row moving right.  First is numlock, next is divide, left click, next is times, right click.
 
When using NVVDA, route the virtual mouse to where you are first with numpad insert numpad left click.  Then issue the right click command.  But I see no increase in convenience between that and the shift f10 command.  I see little in terms of difference in convenience between the usual context menu key and shift f10.  But shyift f10 doesn't work in all cases, as OI recall.  I'm not sure if it always brings up exactly the same menu either.  It is rare that either of these things might happen, as I recall, but you may find some instance where that is the case.  Using the virtual mouse right click command, I believe, solves the problem.  
 
However, I am not convinced that shift ten is meaningfully less convenient than the context menu key or the virtual mouse click.  I think it's mostly a question of getting used to it.  After all, the announce time command is similar in JAWS and NVDA, numpad or insert numpad f12, and I don't recall seeing any complaints about the command.  You might want to try shift f10 for a time and see if you mind the command when you get used to it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key

Thanks, but that does not work using NVDA. I'll remember that if I use Jaws again.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key

Or using the jaws nun pad and use the key that is aright click .  I think it is the dash key on the nun pad. It does work very well.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key

 

Short of remapping some infrequently used key to the Applications key, not really.  The Fn key itself is hard coded.  It does not send a scan code to the operating system like other keys so it cannot be easily remapped.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:11 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key

 

I just received a new wireless keyboard, the Logitech k360. It has no applications key. Instead, it's an fn key. Is there anything I can do besides the more cumbersome use of the shift+f10 key to access the context menus? None of the available fn key functions allow for that natively. Thanks.

Travis


Re: keyboard with no applications key

 

I used smart key to remap scroll lock to application function. In 22 years I've never hit it on purpose. I also remapped capslock to shift so no more oopies there, lol

Melissa
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2016, at 4:42 AM, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:

I hate the keyboard I use now because it doesn't have an applications
key. using shift f10 in sendspace doesn't work the way it should so I
end up having to use the applications key on my laptop. To get it to
do what I want.

On 12/26/16, Rob <captinlogic@...> wrote:
Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrrote:
I think the actual reason has more to do with economizing space since
most
wireless keyboards tend to be smaller.

I think it's both.
If you talk to the average computer user, they have no idea about keyboard
shortcuts. At all. They don't even know what alt f4 does.
Maybe your experience is different, but that's mine.

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762



Re: keyboard with no applications key

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

enes saribas <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
the blind?
We don't count, everybody knows that.


Re: keyboard with no applications key

enes sarıbaş
 

the blind?

On 12/26/2016 12:23 PM, Rob wrote:
Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I personally find it obnoxious that some of these newer wireless keyboards are starting not to include an Applications key. I wonder who's brilliant idea that was?
Nobody uses it. Who needs an applications key when you have a mouse?


Re: more on my dell laptop PC

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

but if they have the money to spend, it's their business. You cannot be the judge of this. Also, I am confident in my computer knowledge to know what I need and want.


On 12/26/2016 6:54 AM, Gene wrote:
But the buyer can't judge unless he/she knows enough to make a judgment.  Given how little people know about computers, I suspect many people spend more than they need, sometimes quite a bit more.  And I suspect salespeople sometimes or perhaps rather often contribute to them doing so. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

however, you cannot be a judge of this. The buyer is the ultimate judge in this. Also, it stands that having more power than you need is better than having less than you need and having your pc become unusable from processor load when performing tasks.


On 12/25/2016 9:36 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't say that everyone should get cheap machines.  I don't follow various kinds and models of chips so I can't respond to your specific chip descriptions.  I'm saying that many people probably spend more than they need to, at times quite a bit more.  I'm not advocating that everyone do anything.  I'm saying that the majority of users don't need machines in the eight, nine hundred or higher price range to meet their needs.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

of course this is your opinion. I personally, would never buy an underpowered, slow, inadequate, anemic, and cheap I3 processor of any type if I could scrape up enough money to get at least an i5. There are some specs I just do not go under.  Advocating that everyone get a cheap system is wrong in my opinion.


On 12/25/2016 7:13 PM, Gene wrote:
Perhaps.  Saying deceived assumes intent.  We don't know what was said by either party in explanation or answer.  My question is how much more money was spent and if the standard processor was gotten instead at a lower price, would it make any difference in performance as the computer will be used?  My guess is that it will make no difference or no noticeable difference.  This computer is probably so much overkill for how it will be used that you could probably have spend hundreds less dollars and had little or no noticeable difference in performance. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

They certainly deceived him. They should not have said quad core. When
they say quad core, they always mean 4 physical cores.


On 12/25/2016 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> Matt, in the morning, it might be a good idea to call Dell
> Customer Services and see if they can help you clarify what
> you are uncertain about.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
>
> Well got my laptop today and been working o it.
>
> Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has
> 4 processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or
> I don't know where to look at.
>
> So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two
> USB ports. One on each side.   Here is what it is saying: 2
> USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
> 1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
> 1 Headset jack
> 1 Noble lock slot
> 1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
> Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2
> (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter
>
>  
>
> So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or
> atleast feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use
> this like a USB port?
>
> Also what is : 1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and
> feel like maybe?
>
> What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?
>
> There is also on the left side feels like a button and
> pushes in like one but don't seem to popop out like a SD
> card reader  it only seems to push in and seems to do
> nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole maybe for speakers
> or mic  or line in maybe. So maybe this button changes
> between them depending on what you got plut in to them?
>
> Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop
> display? I can go into device manager and disable it but
> don't know what would happen. Do they make a third party say
> screen curtain that would just black out the display? Like
> on your iPhone or mac if you had one?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.from.florida@...
> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: keyboard with no applications key

Lenron
 

I hate the keyboard I use now because it doesn't have an applications
key. using shift f10 in sendspace doesn't work the way it should so I
end up having to use the applications key on my laptop. To get it to
do what I want.

On 12/26/16, Rob <captinlogic@...> wrote:
Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrrote:
I think the actual reason has more to do with economizing space since
most
wireless keyboards tend to be smaller.

I think it's both.
If you talk to the average computer user, they have no idea about keyboard
shortcuts. At all. They don't even know what alt f4 does.
Maybe your experience is different, but that's mine.



--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Daisy book

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I haven't done this in ages, but look at these two sites.
http://www.daisy.org/forums/19350 and
http://www.daisy.org/daisypedia/daisy-digital-talking-book.
For the latter, pay attention to what it talks about after the production
heading.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ding Teck Song
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 2:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Daisy book

Dear all,
Hi. How I can make my own daisy book in windows 10?
Thanks. Have a nice day.

Regards,
Ding Teck Song


Daisy book

Ding Teck Song <tecksong98@...>
 

Dear all,
Hi. How I can make my own daisy book in windows 10?
Thanks. Have a nice day.

Regards,
Ding Teck Song


Re: keyboard with no applications key

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrrote:
I think the actual reason has more to do with economizing space since most
wireless keyboards tend to be smaller.

I think it's both.
If you talk to the average computer user, they have no idea about keyboard shortcuts. At all. They don't even know what alt f4 does.
Maybe your experience is different, but that's mine.


Re: keyboard with no applications key

Carlos
 

I don't buy the sighted argument. The Applications key was not originally added specifically for the blind and I have seen quite a few sighted users complaining about this point as well in reviews of wireless keyboards. I think the actual reason has more to do with economizing space since most wireless keyboards tend to be smaller.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] keyboard with no applications key


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I personally find it obnoxious that some of these newer wireless keyboards are starting not to include an Applications key. I wonder who's brilliant idea that was?

Nobody uses it. Who needs an applications key when you have a mouse?


Re: keyboard with no applications key

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I personally find it obnoxious that some of these newer wireless keyboards are starting not to include an Applications key. I wonder who's brilliant idea that was?

Nobody uses it. Who needs an applications key when you have a mouse?


Re: jaws and abby fine reader

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hello:

I just thought I would chime in here with an update to the abby fine reader thread, as it did not generate much interest.

I went into the options and checked a couple of different options and I’m not saying it made the difference but since I didn’t receive many suggestions, what the heck so I did it anyways.

Off hand, since this was a while ago, I don’t remember all I changed. I just remember edges, headers and footers, water marks, I unchecked, wait, the detect edges I checked. Again, I’m not sure if any of this made a difference, but scanning plain text, the resolution at 600 *(before I had and was using 300) and I think that was it as it relates to all I did.

 

I rescanned a document from Friday when I tried it, and this time it came out excelent.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws and abby fine reader

 

I have a very old version of Fine reader.  My settings options may not apply to yours.  You need to adjust the scanning settings.  What choices to you have such as auto, professional, etc? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 4:39 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] jaws and abby fine reader

 

Hi,

 

I’m using latest jaws 17 on a windows 10 pro and abby fine reader version 12.

I’ve never been able to scan and read documents. I need help.

I’ve put the paper in the scanner, clicked scan to word, selected plain text, I think it’s called dtI? I chose 300, scanned it and I just get jibrish. I mean, it’ll read text here and there but I find myself needing to decipher what has been scanned.

How can I get a crisp and clear document to read?

Thanks.

 

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: more on my dell laptop PC

Carlos
 

Yes. I'm not thrilled about this trend of making anything non-upgradable.
Of course, this is one of my problems with Apple since they are one of the
biggest culprits and have been doing it for some time now. And while it
won't directly affect my own work, I still disagree with the practice in
principle.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


Well well me personally I want a nice jobs so I can buy all those
things I want or need. I love nice things so at times when I buy I
might go a little over board. A computer is best when you have more
than enough to work with. I hate the fact that all these companies are
screwing people over by making it so you can't upgrade the laptop.
This makes it so that you might as well speck it out because if you
don't your stuck. I don't like the idea of on board ram. If you need
to swop something you should be able to with out any trouble. Hmm a
race car if I could buy one I know I would. I love fast cars just like
I love fast computers! lol

On 12/26/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
They get credit cards, and max them out. All those places that offer you
credit cards so they can watch you get stupid and buy everything and go
into
debt. Pam.

From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


Some blind folks have a distorted sense of priorities. They’ll rush out
and
buy the latest IPhone or VR Stream but whine and complain that they can’t
afford to put food on the table or pay the rent. If the unemployment rate
among the blind is allegedly 70%, then where do all those non-working
blind
folks find money to buy all those expensive high-tech gadgets?

Gerald




From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

Or heck, sometimes even when they realistically can't afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

In some cases yes, but in as many cases wanting and what you can afford
are just as much of a factor. I have seen quite a few people buy more car
than they need, more house than they need, more computer than they need,
just because they want and can afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

I think a lot of people have no idea what they need and buy more
because
they don't know.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

While I agree that in theory saving money by not purchasing more
computer than you need may be a reasonable standpoint, in practice I'm not
sure that arguing for it will really make much of a difference. In my
experience, I have noticed that users tend to purchase what ever they can
afford. If you can't afford or spare the money for a $2000 machine, then
you most likely won't be buying one. If you can spare $2000 to buy a new
computer, then the chances are that spending it at least won't leave you
destitute and you can probably afford to lose the money. At that point,
it
becomes more a matter of wanting, and no amount of arguing will probably
convince you otherwise. It may not be logical, but wanting is very rarely
logical and does fortunately or unfortunately come into play when making
this kind of decision. Or to simplify the argument, I believe the basic
thought process of the average buyer is usually, do I really need this
over
powered $2000 machine? No, but if I can afford it, then I still want it
anyway. Again it may not be logical, but human nature can be quite
illogical sometimes when it comes to making such choices. Speaking from
personal experience, I often buy things that I strictly don't need, just
because I want them.
----- Original Message -----
From: enes sarıbaş
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

True, however, if this individual wants to do more resource
intensive
tasks such as mass file conversion, or compression then he will need a
brand
new pc. This pc, do to it's slow processor might not perform up-to-par on
some of these tasks, but it will certainly do better than the lower priced
i5.




On 12/25/2016 8:01 PM, Gene wrote:

I doubt anything I say will cause you to reconsider why and what
you
purchase. But my comments may stir other comments and be of use to those
trying to decide what to purchase. Of course, they should consider other
opinions. So I'm not writing mainly to try to persuade you, but rather to
address the question in general.

I wouldn't spend any significant amount of money updating an old
computer. I would spend little or nothing on any computer that was more
than about five years old. they might last a good deal longer or
components
might start to fail.
There is no point getting a gaming machine for typical tasks. If
you wanted a light machine for travel, I don't know how much the cheapest
light machine costs. But hardware abilities are so far ahead of user
needs
in more expensive machines that it makes no sense to buy a gaming quality
machine. Unless someone's uses change dramatically, the reasonably
powered
machine bought today will likely still meet the person's needs seven or
more
years from now, if the machine even lasts that long. Five years is
considered the time after which computers, computers in general, become
potentially unreliable. They may last years longer or they may not.

Gene

From: Matt
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

Yes there is o doubt it is an over kill for most of the stuff I am
doing but I would rather have over kill then a under kill. That is just my
thought on it. It is also not like I buy laptops all the time. The last
one
I bought was around 8 or 10 years ago and it still works just is running
XP
and it is a big heavy dell latitude 15 inch . It was time to replace it as
I
did not want to put the money in this big old heavy thing to bring it up
to
date. I am going to give it to the blind services or computers for the
blind
or good will. Let them fix it up for someone. It will need W10 on it and
the
ram will needed to be upgraded to 4 GB as this is all it will take as it
is
a 32 bit system and don’t know about the batteries as they are user
changeable and don’t know if they are good or not. If not they have to be
replace to make it portable. So going to give it to some organization to
deal with.

I don’t expect to have to get another laptop for 8 to 10 years.



Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


I should say little or no difference in performance as the
majority
of users use computers. This sounds to me like a gaming or intensive use
computer such as for visual editing and running demanding data base
programs
and other such uses.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:13 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


Perhaps. Saying deceived assumes intent. We don't know what was
said by either party in explanation or answer. My question is how much
more
money was spent and if the standard processor was gotten instead at a
lower
price, would it make any difference in performance as the computer will be
used? My guess is that it will make no difference or no noticeable
difference. This computer is probably so much overkill for how it will be
used that you could probably have spend hundreds less dollars and had
little
or no noticeable difference in performance.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:21 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


hi,

They certainly deceived him. They should not have said quad core.
When
they say quad core, they always mean 4 physical cores.


On 12/25/2016 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> Matt, in the morning, it might be a good idea to call Dell
> Customer Services and see if they can help you clarify what
> you are uncertain about.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
>
> Well got my laptop today and been working o it.
>
> Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has
> 4 processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or
> I don't know where to look at.
>
> So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two
> USB ports. One on each side. Here is what it is saying: 2
> USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
> 1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
> 1 Headset jack
> 1 Noble lock slot
> 1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
> Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2
> (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter
>
>
>
> So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or
> atleast feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use
> this like a USB port?
>
> Also what is : 1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and
> feel like maybe?
>
> What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?
>
> There is also on the left side feels like a button and
> pushes in like one but don't seem to popop out like a SD
> card reader it only seems to push in and seems to do
> nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole maybe for speakers
> or mic or line in maybe. So maybe this button changes
> between them depending on what you got plut in to them?
>
> Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop
> display? I can go into device manager and disable it but
> don't know what would happen. Do they make a third party say
> screen curtain that would just black out the display? Like
> on your iPhone or mac if you had one?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.from.florida@...
> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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Re: more on my dell laptop PC

Lenron
 

Well well me personally I want a nice jobs so I can buy all those
things I want or need. I love nice things so at times when I buy I
might go a little over board. A computer is best when you have more
than enough to work with. I hate the fact that all these companies are
screwing people over by making it so you can't upgrade the laptop.
This makes it so that you might as well speck it out because if you
don't your stuck. I don't like the idea of on board ram. If you need
to swop something you should be able to with out any trouble. Hmm a
race car if I could buy one I know I would. I love fast cars just like
I love fast computers! lol

On 12/26/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
They get credit cards, and max them out. All those places that offer you
credit cards so they can watch you get stupid and buy everything and go into
debt. Pam.

From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


Some blind folks have a distorted sense of priorities. They’ll rush out and
buy the latest IPhone or VR Stream but whine and complain that they can’t
afford to put food on the table or pay the rent. If the unemployment rate
among the blind is allegedly 70%, then where do all those non-working blind
folks find money to buy all those expensive high-tech gadgets?

Gerald




From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

Or heck, sometimes even when they realistically can't afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

In some cases yes, but in as many cases wanting and what you can afford
are just as much of a factor. I have seen quite a few people buy more car
than they need, more house than they need, more computer than they need,
just because they want and can afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

I think a lot of people have no idea what they need and buy more because
they don't know.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

While I agree that in theory saving money by not purchasing more
computer than you need may be a reasonable standpoint, in practice I'm not
sure that arguing for it will really make much of a difference. In my
experience, I have noticed that users tend to purchase what ever they can
afford. If you can't afford or spare the money for a $2000 machine, then
you most likely won't be buying one. If you can spare $2000 to buy a new
computer, then the chances are that spending it at least won't leave you
destitute and you can probably afford to lose the money. At that point, it
becomes more a matter of wanting, and no amount of arguing will probably
convince you otherwise. It may not be logical, but wanting is very rarely
logical and does fortunately or unfortunately come into play when making
this kind of decision. Or to simplify the argument, I believe the basic
thought process of the average buyer is usually, do I really need this over
powered $2000 machine? No, but if I can afford it, then I still want it
anyway. Again it may not be logical, but human nature can be quite
illogical sometimes when it comes to making such choices. Speaking from
personal experience, I often buy things that I strictly don't need, just
because I want them.
----- Original Message -----
From: enes sarıbaş
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

True, however, if this individual wants to do more resource intensive
tasks such as mass file conversion, or compression then he will need a brand
new pc. This pc, do to it's slow processor might not perform up-to-par on
some of these tasks, but it will certainly do better than the lower priced
i5.




On 12/25/2016 8:01 PM, Gene wrote:

I doubt anything I say will cause you to reconsider why and what you
purchase. But my comments may stir other comments and be of use to those
trying to decide what to purchase. Of course, they should consider other
opinions. So I'm not writing mainly to try to persuade you, but rather to
address the question in general.

I wouldn't spend any significant amount of money updating an old
computer. I would spend little or nothing on any computer that was more
than about five years old. they might last a good deal longer or components
might start to fail.
There is no point getting a gaming machine for typical tasks. If
you wanted a light machine for travel, I don't know how much the cheapest
light machine costs. But hardware abilities are so far ahead of user needs
in more expensive machines that it makes no sense to buy a gaming quality
machine. Unless someone's uses change dramatically, the reasonably powered
machine bought today will likely still meet the person's needs seven or more
years from now, if the machine even lasts that long. Five years is
considered the time after which computers, computers in general, become
potentially unreliable. They may last years longer or they may not.

Gene

From: Matt
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

Yes there is o doubt it is an over kill for most of the stuff I am
doing but I would rather have over kill then a under kill. That is just my
thought on it. It is also not like I buy laptops all the time. The last one
I bought was around 8 or 10 years ago and it still works just is running XP
and it is a big heavy dell latitude 15 inch . It was time to replace it as I
did not want to put the money in this big old heavy thing to bring it up to
date. I am going to give it to the blind services or computers for the blind
or good will. Let them fix it up for someone. It will need W10 on it and the
ram will needed to be upgraded to 4 GB as this is all it will take as it is
a 32 bit system and don’t know about the batteries as they are user
changeable and don’t know if they are good or not. If not they have to be
replace to make it portable. So going to give it to some organization to
deal with.

I don’t expect to have to get another laptop for 8 to 10 years.



Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


I should say little or no difference in performance as the majority
of users use computers. This sounds to me like a gaming or intensive use
computer such as for visual editing and running demanding data base programs
and other such uses.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:13 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


Perhaps. Saying deceived assumes intent. We don't know what was
said by either party in explanation or answer. My question is how much more
money was spent and if the standard processor was gotten instead at a lower
price, would it make any difference in performance as the computer will be
used? My guess is that it will make no difference or no noticeable
difference. This computer is probably so much overkill for how it will be
used that you could probably have spend hundreds less dollars and had little
or no noticeable difference in performance.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:21 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC


hi,

They certainly deceived him. They should not have said quad core.
When
they say quad core, they always mean 4 physical cores.


On 12/25/2016 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> Matt, in the morning, it might be a good idea to call Dell
> Customer Services and see if they can help you clarify what
> you are uncertain about.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
>
> Well got my laptop today and been working o it.
>
> Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has
> 4 processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or
> I don't know where to look at.
>
> So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two
> USB ports. One on each side. Here is what it is saying: 2
> USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
> 1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
> 1 Headset jack
> 1 Noble lock slot
> 1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
> Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2
> (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter
>
>
>
> So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or
> atleast feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use
> this like a USB port?
>
> Also what is : 1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and
> feel like maybe?
>
> What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?
>
> There is also on the left side feels like a button and
> pushes in like one but don't seem to popop out like a SD
> card reader it only seems to push in and seems to do
> nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole maybe for speakers
> or mic or line in maybe. So maybe this button changes
> between them depending on what you got plut in to them?
>
> Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop
> display? I can go into device manager and disable it but
> don't know what would happen. Do they make a third party say
> screen curtain that would just black out the display? Like
> on your iPhone or mac if you had one?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.from.florida@...
> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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Re: more on my dell laptop PC

Pamela Dominguez
 

They get credit cards, and max them out.  All those places that offer you credit cards so they can watch you get stupid and buy everything and go into debt.  Pam.
 

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 
 
Some blind folks have a distorted sense of priorities.  They’ll rush out and buy the latest IPhone or VR Stream but whine and complain that they can’t afford to put food on the table or pay the rent. If the unemployment rate among the blind is allegedly 70%, then where do all those non-working blind folks find money to buy all those expensive high-tech gadgets?
 
Gerald
 
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 
Or heck, sometimes even when they realistically can't afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 
In some cases yes, but in as many cases wanting and what you can afford are just as much of a factor.  I have seen quite a few people buy more car than they need, more house than they need, more computer than they need, just because they want and can afford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 
I think a lot of people have no idea what they need and buy more because they don't know. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 
While I agree that in theory saving money by not purchasing more computer than you need may be a reasonable standpoint, in practice I'm not sure that arguing for it will really make much of a difference.  In my experience, I have noticed that users tend to purchase what ever they can afford.  If you can't afford or spare the money for a $2000 machine, then you most likely won't be buying one.  If you can spare $2000 to buy a new computer, then the chances are that spending it at least won't leave you destitute and you can probably afford to lose the money.  At that point, it becomes more a matter of wanting, and no amount of arguing will probably convince you otherwise.  It may not be logical, but wanting is very rarely logical and does fortunately or unfortunately come into play when making this kind of decision.  Or to simplify the argument, I believe the basic thought process of the average buyer is usually, do I really need this over powered $2000 machine?  No, but if I can afford it, then I still want it anyway.  Again it may not be logical, but human nature can be quite illogical sometimes when it comes to making such choices.  Speaking from personal experience, I often buy things that I strictly don't need, just because I want them.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 

hi,

True, however, if this individual wants to do more resource intensive tasks such as mass file conversion, or compression then he will need a brand new pc.  This pc, do to it's slow processor might not perform up-to-par on some of these tasks, but it will certainly do better than the lower priced i5.


On 12/25/2016 8:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I doubt anything I say will cause you to reconsider why and what you purchase.  But my comments may stir other comments and be of use to those trying to decide what to purchase.  Of course, they should consider other opinions.  So I'm not writing mainly to try to persuade you, but rather to address the question in general.
 
I wouldn't spend any significant amount of money updating an old computer.  I would spend little or nothing on any computer that was more than about five years old.  they might last a good deal longer or components might start to fail. 
There is no point getting a gaming machine for typical tasks.  If you wanted a light machine for travel, I don't know how much the cheapest light machine costs.  But hardware abilities are so far ahead of user needs in more expensive machines that it makes no sense to buy a gaming quality machine.  Unless someone's uses change dramatically, the reasonably powered machine bought today will likely still meet the person's needs seven or more years from now, if the machine even lasts that long.  Five years is considered the time after which computers, computers in general, become potentially unreliable.  They may last years longer or they may not. 
 
Gene
From: Matt
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
 

Yes there is o doubt it is an over kill for most of the stuff I am doing but I would rather have over kill then a under kill. That is just my thought on it. It is also not like I buy laptops all the time. The last one I bought was around 8 or 10 years ago and it still works just is running XP and it is a big heavy dell latitude 15 inch . It was time to replace it as I did not want to put the money in this big old heavy thing to bring it up to date. I am going to give it to the blind services or computers for the blind or good will. Let them fix it up for someone. It will need W10 on it and the ram will needed to be upgraded to 4 GB as this is all it will take as it is a 32 bit system and don’t know about the batteries as they are user changeable and don’t know if they are good or not.  If not they have to be replace to make it portable.  So going to give it to some organization to deal with.

I don’t expect to have to get another laptop for 8 to 10 years.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

I should say little or no difference in performance as the majority of users use computers.  This sounds to me like a gaming or intensive use computer such as for visual editing and running demanding data base programs and other such uses. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

Perhaps.  Saying deceived assumes intent.  We don't know what was said by either party in explanation or answer.  My question is how much more money was spent and if the standard processor was gotten instead at a lower price, would it make any difference in performance as the computer will be used?  My guess is that it will make no difference or no noticeable difference.  This computer is probably so much overkill for how it will be used that you could probably have spend hundreds less dollars and had little or no noticeable difference in performance. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:21 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,

They certainly deceived him. They should not have said quad core. When
they say quad core, they always mean 4 physical cores.


On 12/25/2016 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> Matt, in the morning, it might be a good idea to call Dell
> Customer Services and see if they can help you clarify what
> you are uncertain about.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC
>
> Well got my laptop today and been working o it.
>
> Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has
> 4 processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or
> I don't know where to look at.
>
> So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two
> USB ports. One on each side.   Here is what it is saying: 2
> USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
> 1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
> 1 Headset jack
> 1 Noble lock slot
> 1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
> Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2
> (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter
>
>  
>
> So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or
> atleast feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use
> this like a USB port?
>
> Also what is : 1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and
> feel like maybe?
>
> What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?
>
> There is also on the left side feels like a button and
> pushes in like one but don't seem to popop out like a SD
> card reader  it only seems to push in and seems to do
> nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole maybe for speakers
> or mic  or line in maybe. So maybe this button changes
> between them depending on what you got plut in to them?
>
> Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop
> display? I can go into device manager and disable it but
> don't know what would happen. Do they make a third party say
> screen curtain that would just black out the display? Like
> on your iPhone or mac if you had one?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.from.florida@...
> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: more on my dell laptop PC

Matt
 

Hi, did this and choose 2nd display only and this did not seem to work I
think you might have t have at least a cable hooked to it the laptop to fool
it into thinking it is hooked to another display . but when I choose this I
also did not see a ok or save button either . this making me think for sure
it needs a cable hook to it to fool it. It does give an option to hook
wireless to a display but I don't have one of them either.


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 7:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] more on my dell laptop PC

hi,
display, try windows-p.

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On 25/12/2016 3:54 AM, Matt wrote:
Well got my laptop today and been working on it.

Now it say it in the device manager under processers it has 4
processers all at 2.7 GHZ . It say nothing about cores. Or I don't
know where to look at.

So now some questions: (1) this thing seems to have only two USB ports.
One on each side. Here is what it is saying:2 USB 3.0 - 1 w/PowerShare
1 SD card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
1 Headset jack
1 Noble lock slot
1 ThunderboltT 3 supports: Power in / charging, PowerShare,
Thunderbolt
3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet
and USB-A via Dell Adapter



So what is this ThunderboltT and what does it look like or atleast
feel like? I assume you have to have adapter to use this like a USB port?

Also what is :1 w/PowerShare and what does it look like and feel like
maybe?

What in the heck is a Noble lock slot?

There is also on the left side feels like a button and pushes in like
one but don't seem to popop out like a SD card reader it only seems
to push in and seems to do nothing. But I think there is a tiny hole
maybe for speakers or mic or line in maybe. So maybe this button
changes between them depending on what you got plut in to them?

Another question is there any way to turn off the laptop display? I
can go into device manager and disable it but don't know what would
happen.
Do they make a third party say screen curtain that would just black
out the display? Like on your iPhone or mac if you had one?

Thanks for any input!









Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@... <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>



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