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Re: Program Manager In Windows 7

Michael Mote
 

Mike, this used to come up on my computer all the time.  In my case, the program manager window was coming up because Windows was freezing up on me.  I determined that it was a memory issue, and that I didn’t have enough in my system to run all of the processes that I wanted to run.  You may want to consider stopping some of the processes, and the applications that start when the computer boots up.  Go into the Msconfig area, and look at what is starting up.  If you can disable some of these programs, it may help in performance.  Generally, I disable anything that says Manager or helper next to it.  You would be surprised as to how many things start up that are not necessary.  Also, you may consider stopping Windows from Indexing files.  This happens in the background, and makes it easier to search for things like messages in your email. 

Hope this helps!

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Program Manager In Windows 7

 

Hi All,

 

I was helping someone via Tandem earlier today, & it seemed like everytime you went somewhere on her computer the damn Program Manager window would get in the way.  She told me that most of the time when this window pops up that she can't get away / out of it, & has to reboot her computer.  Is there a setting in msconfig, Administrative Tools / Services, or anywhere else that can be changed to get rid of this pain in the ass window?  She's running Windows 7 & Jaws 16 / 17.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Carlos

Naima Leigh
 

Have you heard or ever used “SongR”

 

If yes, please send me a safe download link. Can it be used with windows 7? Is it accessible with JAWS?

 

Thanks

 

Naima

 
Re: making winamp the default player for all music

Troy Burnham
 

Thanks Carlos.  It's been so long since I had to do that I had forgot about the ctrl-p to get into preferences.
 
Troy
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] making winamp the default player for all music

1. While Winamp is running, press Control+P to open the preferences.
2. Press the letter F until you hear
"File Types"
3. Tab to the list of associated file types.
4. Navigate through the list using the arrow keys and check the file extensions you want to be opened with Winamp using the Spacebar.  Alternatively, you can tab to the
"All"
button and select it.  This will associate all of the file extensions in the list with Winamp.  You might also want to enable the
"Restore file associations on Winamp start"
checkbox.
5. Tab to the
"Close"
button and select it to save the changes and exit the preferences dialog.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] making winamp the default player for all music

Hi All,
 
Earlier today I clicked on an audio file that opened windows media player to play, sorry I didn't notice the extension of the file but I had to do some setting up of windows media before the file would play.  I just tried to play an mp3 file and it also played in windows media, so how do I make winamp my default player for all audio files again?  Btw this is windows 7.
 
Thanks.
 
Troy
 
 
Program Manager In Windows 7

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi All,
 
I was helping someone via Tandem earlier today, & it seemed like everytime you went somewhere on her computer the damn Program Manager window would get in the way.  She told me that most of the time when this window pops up that she can't get away / out of it, & has to reboot her computer.  Is there a setting in msconfig, Administrative Tools / Services, or anywhere else that can be changed to get rid of this pain in the ass window?  She's running Windows 7 & Jaws 16 / 17.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: making winamp the default player for all music

Carlos
 

1. While Winamp is running, press Control+P to open the preferences.
2. Press the letter F until you hear
"File Types"
3. Tab to the list of associated file types.
4. Navigate through the list using the arrow keys and check the file extensions you want to be opened with Winamp using the Spacebar.  Alternatively, you can tab to the
"All"
button and select it.  This will associate all of the file extensions in the list with Winamp.  You might also want to enable the
"Restore file associations on Winamp start"
checkbox.
5. Tab to the
"Close"
button and select it to save the changes and exit the preferences dialog.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] making winamp the default player for all music

Hi All,
 
Earlier today I clicked on an audio file that opened windows media player to play, sorry I didn't notice the extension of the file but I had to do some setting up of windows media before the file would play.  I just tried to play an mp3 file and it also played in windows media, so how do I make winamp my default player for all audio files again?  Btw this is windows 7.
 
Thanks.
 
Troy
 
 
Re: New Yahoo Account

Carlos
 

Hi Mike,
It's been quite some time since I've logged in to the Yahoo page.  I don't believe I even have a Yahoo account anymore, but I'll see if I can take a look some time within the next day or two.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,
 
Before I can get to Settings / Accounts I have to click on,Link,
Add Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more
 
Then I can navigate to Settings & Accounts, / my email, but I don't get an option for POP3 here,
"Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
 
If I left mouse click this line my wife tells me that the line turns colors, but doesn't show anything regarding POP3.  I assumed that it turning colors might mean that it selected it so, I saved it, but still get the dialogue box to enter my password when I open that identity in OE.  Any suggestions?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That might be a different setting from the one that enables POP access.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox for ages!
> It
> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish, but at
> your
> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of doing it!
> This
> is in your Account Security link.
>
> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>
> John.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi John,
>
> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow
> my
> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?
>
> John.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi John,
>
> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express
> using
> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>
> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
> list of 5 items
> In
> Yahoo Mail,
> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
> Click Accounts.
> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
> Select POP.
> Click Save.
>
> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
> accounts....,
> but when I get here,
> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
> Select POP.
>
> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
> may help with your query.
>
> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured
> views,
> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access
> the
> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>
> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're
> displayed
> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>
> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to
> access
> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>
> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:
>
> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>
> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>
> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>
> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;
>
> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
> Quick Nav off;
>
> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>
> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
> button;
>
> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
> the Enter key.
>
> HTH
>
> John.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of getting to
> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo
> Mail?
> Thanks much.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



making winamp the default player for all music

Troy Burnham
 

Hi All,
 
Earlier today I clicked on an audio file that opened windows media player to play, sorry I didn't notice the extension of the file but I had to do some setting up of windows media before the file would play.  I just tried to play an mp3 file and it also played in windows media, so how do I make winamp my default player for all audio files again?  Btw this is windows 7.
 
Thanks.
 
Troy
 
 
Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi Carlos,
 
Before I can get to Settings / Accounts I have to click on,Link,
Add Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more
 
Then I can navigate to Settings & Accounts, / my email, but I don't get an option for POP3 here,
"Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
 
If I left mouse click this line my wife tells me that the line turns colors, but doesn't show anything regarding POP3.  I assumed that it turning colors might mean that it selected it so, I saved it, but still get the dialogue box to enter my password when I open that identity in OE.  Any suggestions?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That might be a different setting from the one that enables POP access.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox for ages!
> It
> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish, but at
> your
> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of doing it!
> This
> is in your Account Security link.
>
> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>
> John.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi John,
>
> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow
> my
> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?
>
> John.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi John,
>
> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express
> using
> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>
> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
> list of 5 items
> In
> Yahoo Mail,
> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
> Click Accounts.
> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
> Select POP.
> Click Save.
>
> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
> accounts....,
> but when I get here,
> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
> Select POP.
>
> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
> may help with your query.
>
> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured
> views,
> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access
> the
> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>
> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're
> displayed
> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>
> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to
> access
> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>
> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:
>
> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>
> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>
> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>
> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;
>
> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
> Quick Nav off;
>
> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>
> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
> button;
>
> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
> the Enter key.
>
> HTH
>
> John.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of getting to
> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo
> Mail?
> Thanks much.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



A Warning To All iPhone Users #article

Armando <armando.l.vias@...>
 

I recently came across this article. The link is below.
Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi John,
 
If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need to run Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife & told me that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend had surgery yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to get any more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have any success beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox for ages! It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish, but at your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of doing it! This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,
 
I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...> 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,
 
Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
 
Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.
 
Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
 
I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...> 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,
 
I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: Spoof email messages and eloquence

Gene
 

But you didn't explain why you did this.  You just said people can do it.  Many people, like me, don't care whether someone is trying to crash the synthesizer.  We just don't want to be bothered with it one way or another.  If you are going to recommend an action and you know of an alternative such as the one I gave, it is misleading to cause people to believe that spoken text must be present in the pronounced as field by omission. 
 
If you want to have something spoken, that's your choice.  But when advising people, it should not be described as though it were, by implication, necessary.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

Whether there is or is not a need to have replacement text in the pronounced as field is a subjective opinion. I choose to be aware if possible when someone is  trying to monkey around with my screen reader to at least exclude any other possible reason for my losing speech. The replacement text allows me this feedback.

Switching  synthesizers does work. This is what  I explained in my earlier post.

In an  ideal world, FS would  have already addressed these anomalies, but  in the meantime, this can be a quick fix.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

If you want something not to be spoken, just place one space in the pronounced as field.  There is no need to have a text string such as you describe in the pronounced as field.

 

However, if you do add the problem strings to the dictionary, when moving up and down in the list of words in the dictionary list, the string will attempt to be spoken.  Therefore, avoid moving to those words unless you switch synthesizers first.  I don't recall if I ever tried this, but switching synthesizers should allow you to move to one of these character strings without problems.  I haven't played around enough to know if moving very quickly will work.  You could move from the end of the list up or move from the top of the list down and stop before you get to the character string.  or you could switch synthesizers before working in the word list.  Then, when you have found the word you want to edit, as long as it isn't one of the crash strings, switch back to Eloquence so you can edit it or remove it or whatever.  If you edit it, you will then know how Eloquence will pronounce the replacement string.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

A work-around I’ve used is to  add the offending  string of  text to the Jawws dictionary  manager and  replace  it with something like Jaws crash  word or  something along  those lines. I select eloquence as the pronunciation synth and that takes care of it  for the  future. This I do  using an alternative synth. Vocalizer  expressive for example.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

there is a regular expression built in to the code of the Eloquence driver for NVDA that specifically keeps those codes from getting to Eloquence itself.

 

On 11/17/2016 9:37 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

So why don't I have the issues with
Eloquence and NVDA if it is not specific to JAWS?

 

 

On 11/17/2016 6:32 AM, Carlos wrote:

Yep, old bugs in the Eloquence synthesizer which itself hasn't been updated in many years.  And Freedom Scientific should already be aware of them.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mohamed

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:28 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

No, it is actually not from NVDA or JAWS. It is, in fact, from Eloquence itself, and in the drivers for NVDA, there are regular expressions that block the strings from going through. Simply looking for strings isn't enough to block these crash codes. There are actually patterns to them, that need to be coded in through a regular expression.

 

On 11/16/2016 11:50 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

 

I really hope Freedom Scientific comes up with a permanent solution.  I am using Eloquence with NVDA and the same strings that are crashing JAWS are not crashing NVDA with Eloquence.  This makes me believe that the crashes are caused by some kind of interface between JAWS and Eloquence--not Eloquence itself.

 

 

On 11/16/2016 8:36 PM, Brian Zolo wrote:

Good evening, listers.  Has anyone ben able to get the exact charater string that is crashing eloquence with jaws?  I’ve been advised by the fols at Freedom Scienttific that if we can send them the offending character string that they will take a look at it and work on fixing it.  I’m a firm believer in being part of the solution and not part of the problem so am willing to send in the character string that is causing the crash.  They (freedom scientific have fixed previous character strings that caused previous crashes of eloquence and was talking with bryan Carver director of technical support concerning a problem that I’ve been having at work as we transition to windows ten from windows 7 and mentioned to him that eloquence is being effected by new character strings and he then mentioned that if someone could send him the current character string causing the problem that they would take a look at it and develop a fix.  I believe that Bryan’s email address is bryanc@... but I will verify that and let the list know.  This is an opportunity to defeat this craziness so I’m willing to assist in this endeavor.  My eloquence has been crashed by this new string as well.  Thanks so much, have a great day!  BZ!         

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 
Re: Spoof email messages and eloquence

Brian Zolo <bzolo@...>
 

Good evening, listers, Brian Zolo here, Bryan Carter’s correct address is BCarver@....  The b and the c are both upper case.  If anyone can send the exact character string that is crashing eloquence it would really help.  Right now I’m using Vocalizer Tom and once I upgrade to windows ten and jaws 18 I will go with the new vocalizer voices.  The new generation of Vocalizer voices sounds quite natural but speech is very subjective.  I have some hearing loss and in that sense Eloquence is still the most hearable for me especially as I like to have my speech at high speed.  I apologize for the incorrect email address I provided last evening.  Have a great day and a great weekend1  bZ1    

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

Hi Group,

 

I really hope Freedom Scientific comes up with a permanent solution.  I am using Eloquence with NVDA and the same strings that are crashing JAWS are not crashing NVDA with Eloquence.  This makes me believe that the crashes are caused by some kind of interface between JAWS and Eloquence--not Eloquence itself.

 

 

On 11/16/2016 8:36 PM, Brian Zolo wrote:

Good evening, listers.  Has anyone ben able to get the exact charater string that is crashing eloquence with jaws?  I’ve been advised by the fols at Freedom Scienttific that if we can send them the offending character string that they will take a look at it and work on fixing it.  I’m a firm believer in being part of the solution and not part of the problem so am willing to send in the character string that is causing the crash.  They (freedom scientific have fixed previous character strings that caused previous crashes of eloquence and was talking with bryan Carver director of technical support concerning a problem that I’ve been having at work as we transition to windows ten from windows 7 and mentioned to him that eloquence is being effected by new character strings and he then mentioned that if someone could send him the current character string causing the problem that they would take a look at it and develop a fix.  I believe that Bryan’s email address is bryanc@... but I will verify that and let the list know.  This is an opportunity to defeat this craziness so I’m willing to assist in this endeavor.  My eloquence has been crashed by this new string as well.  Thanks so much, have a great day!  BZ!         



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: Spoof email messages and eloquence

Cristóbal
 

Whether there is or is not a need to have replacement text in the pronounced as field is a subjective opinion. I choose to be aware if possible when someone is  trying to monkey around with my screen reader to at least exclude any other possible reason for my losing speech. The replacement text allows me this feedback.

Switching  synthesizers does work. This is what  I explained in my earlier post.

In an  ideal world, FS would  have already addressed these anomalies, but  in the meantime, this can be a quick fix.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

If you want something not to be spoken, just place one space in the pronounced as field.  There is no need to have a text string such as you describe in the pronounced as field.

 

However, if you do add the problem strings to the dictionary, when moving up and down in the list of words in the dictionary list, the string will attempt to be spoken.  Therefore, avoid moving to those words unless you switch synthesizers first.  I don't recall if I ever tried this, but switching synthesizers should allow you to move to one of these character strings without problems.  I haven't played around enough to know if moving very quickly will work.  You could move from the end of the list up or move from the top of the list down and stop before you get to the character string.  or you could switch synthesizers before working in the word list.  Then, when you have found the word you want to edit, as long as it isn't one of the crash strings, switch back to Eloquence so you can edit it or remove it or whatever.  If you edit it, you will then know how Eloquence will pronounce the replacement string.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

A work-around I’ve used is to  add the offending  string of  text to the Jawws dictionary  manager and  replace  it with something like Jaws crash  word or  something along  those lines. I select eloquence as the pronunciation synth and that takes care of it  for the  future. This I do  using an alternative synth. Vocalizer  expressive for example.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

there is a regular expression built in to the code of the Eloquence driver for NVDA that specifically keeps those codes from getting to Eloquence itself.

 

On 11/17/2016 9:37 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

So why don't I have the issues with
Eloquence and NVDA if it is not specific to JAWS?

 

 

On 11/17/2016 6:32 AM, Carlos wrote:

Yep, old bugs in the Eloquence synthesizer which itself hasn't been updated in many years.  And Freedom Scientific should already be aware of them.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mohamed

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:28 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Spoof email messages and eloquence

 

No, it is actually not from NVDA or JAWS. It is, in fact, from Eloquence itself, and in the drivers for NVDA, there are regular expressions that block the strings from going through. Simply looking for strings isn't enough to block these crash codes. There are actually patterns to them, that need to be coded in through a regular expression.

 

On 11/16/2016 11:50 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

 

I really hope Freedom Scientific comes up with a permanent solution.  I am using Eloquence with NVDA and the same strings that are crashing JAWS are not crashing NVDA with Eloquence.  This makes me believe that the crashes are caused by some kind of interface between JAWS and Eloquence--not Eloquence itself.

 

 

On 11/16/2016 8:36 PM, Brian Zolo wrote:

Good evening, listers.  Has anyone ben able to get the exact charater string that is crashing eloquence with jaws?  I’ve been advised by the fols at Freedom Scienttific that if we can send them the offending character string that they will take a look at it and work on fixing it.  I’m a firm believer in being part of the solution and not part of the problem so am willing to send in the character string that is causing the crash.  They (freedom scientific have fixed previous character strings that caused previous crashes of eloquence and was talking with bryan Carver director of technical support concerning a problem that I’ve been having at work as we transition to windows ten from windows 7 and mentioned to him that eloquence is being effected by new character strings and he then mentioned that if someone could send him the current character string causing the problem that they would take a look at it and develop a fix.  I believe that Bryan’s email address is bryanc@... but I will verify that and let the list know.  This is an opportunity to defeat this craziness so I’m willing to assist in this endeavor.  My eloquence has been crashed by this new string as well.  Thanks so much, have a great day!  BZ!         

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 
Re: New Yahoo Account

Carlos
 

That might be a different setting from the one that enables POP access.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox for ages! It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish, but at your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of doing it! This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: New Yahoo Account

John Gregory <john.gm.gregory@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox for ages! It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish, but at your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of doing it! This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi John,
 
I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that will allow my Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,
 
Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
 
Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.
 
Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
 
I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...> 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,
 
I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: New Yahoo Account

John Gregory <john.gm.gregory@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in Outlook?

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <mwb5781@...>
 

Hi John,
 
Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook Express using POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
 
Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under “Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere” | Select POP.
Click Save.
 
Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings / accounts...., but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under “Access your Yahoo Mail elsewhere” | Select POP.
 
I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,
 
I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: New Yahoo Account

John Gregory <john.gm.gregory@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full featured views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to access the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access Yahoo Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way they're displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon key to access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either "Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows simultaneously to turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button and press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile Yahoo Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Re: Change to the Tech Talk chat list

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi Pam, no I just listened to it before I sent it.
Joseph Hudson 
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On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:

This seems like a pretty good message.  I guess you checked it before you sent it.  Pam.
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Change to the Tech Talk chat list
 
Hey, no problem. I will continue to look in my inbox. I haven't been around my computer for very much in the last couple of days, but I am working on on catching up on mail now. So I should see it soon.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...
 
On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
Hi Joseph,
All existing members should have received an invitation.  If you did not receive one, it may have been diverted into your spam folder.  In either case, you can subscribe using the following address.
And the posting address is 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Change to the Tech Talk chat list
 
So Carlos, did existing members to to get an invite to this new group?
Joseph Hudson 
 
On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
Hello everyone,
 
Based on feedback from current members, the Tech Talk chat list has been converted from a subgroup to a primary/parent group.  What this change basically means is that anyone will now be able to subscribe to the chat group without the need to also subscribe to the main Tech Talk group.  The difference being that subgroups only allow members of the parent group to subscribe.  Hopefully this will mean additional members who can help liven up the chat list a bit so feel free to spread the word.  The main page for the new list is here.
https://groups.io/g/TechTalkChat/
You can subscribe to the list using the following address:
TechTalkChat+subscribe@groups.io
And to post to the list, send messages to:
TechTalkChat@groups.io
These addresses will also be displayed in the message footers for reference as usual.  The old subgroup has been effectively closed.
 
Thanks and regards,
Carlos


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