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Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Josh Kennedy
 

Linux is horrible as far as it's audio drivers and accessibility. Not to mention that wine is almost completely in accessible. So Microsoft would have a lot of work to do in order to make it just as accessible as windows is. Not to mention every piece of window software would have to be rewritten from the ground up. No I don't think this is going to happen. Not anytime soon. Maybe in 20 or 30 years, but not anytime soon.


Re: Envision AI

Bharat
 

Request you to login with your Google account please?

On 12/23/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass
the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.






Envision AI

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Has anyone tried Envision AI app? I have downloaded it and can't get pass the login screen. Doesn't accept any of the login options.


Re: Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Hmmm, if Microsoft were to do this, it would fly in the face of everything that Linux and Linuxers stand for. Open Source licensing would be abregated because Microsoft would still charge for its software. I don't think this would happen, but then, I didn't think we'd have the president we have and I didn't think we'd have a pandemic.

Ann P.


Original message:

Hi Everyone,
I just happen to come across this. and thought I would share, as some people might be interested.
Janet
?
by Jack Wallen in Software on October 9, 2020, 8:16 AM PST
Microsoft Linux is the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system, argues Jack Wallen. He explains why this would be a win-win for Microsoft, IT pros, users, and the Linux community.
My esteemed colleague Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols penned an outstanding piece on sister site ZDNet titled Linux-based Windows makes perfect sense in which he discussed Eric S. Raymond's point of view that we are nearing the last phase of the desktop wars. Vaughan-Nichols posits that the next logical step would be the Windows interface running on top of the Linux kernel.
It makes sense, especially given how hard Microsoft is working on Windows Subsystem for Linux. However, from everything I've witnessed over the last few years, I think there's a conclusion to be drawn that makes even more sense for Microsoft.
Microsoft Linux: Why it's the best solution
At one point, the big cash cow for Microsoft was software--Windows and Microsoft Office to be exact. But, as with everything in the tech industry, evolution happens. Tech companies that refuse to evolve fail.
Microsoft gets that, and it has evolved. Case in point: Microsoft Azure. Microsoft's cloud computing service, as well as AWS and Google Cloud, have been massive driving forces in an ever-changing industry. Azure has become Microsoft's new world cash cow--so much so the company that has enjoyed a stranglehold on the desktop market has begun to realize there might be better ways to leverage the desktop.
That leverage could easily come by way of Linux, but not the Linux you're probably thinking of. The Linux that Vaughan-Nichols suggests could be a good stepping stone for Microsoft, but I believe the company needs to make a much bigger leap. I'm talking moon landing-sized leap--one that will make life a lot easier for all involved.
I'm talking about diving deep into the Linux waters. Forget about a version of the desktop with a Windows 10 interface running on the Linux kernel and finally admit that Microsoft Linux might be the best solution for today's world.
A full-on Linux distribution released by Microsoft would mean less frustration for all involved. Microsoft could shift its development efforts on the Windows 10 desktop to a desktop that would be more stable, dependable, flexible, and proven. Microsoft could select from any number of desktops for its official flavor: GNOME, KDE, Pantheon, Xfce, Mint, Cinnamon... the list goes on and on. Microsoft could use that desktop as is or contribute to it and create something that's more in-line with what its users are accustomed to.
Development: Microsoft isn't off the hook
This doesn't mean Microsoft would be off the hook in terms of development. Microsoft would also want to make major contributions to Wine in order to ensure all of its products work smoothly with the compatibility layer and are rolled into the operating system by default so the end user doesn't have to do anything extra in order to install Windows applications.
Windows users need Defender
The Microsoft dev teams would also want to port Windows Defender to this new distribution. Wait. What? Am I seriously suggesting that MS Linux would need Windows Defender? Yes, I am. Why?
End users still need protection from phishing scams, malicious URLs, and other types of attacks. The average Windows user might not realize that the combination of Linux and safe usage practices is far more secure than Windows 10 and Windows Defender. So, yeah, porting Windows Defender to Microsoft Linux would be a good step into keeping the user base comfortable.
Those users would very quickly learn what it's like to work on a desktop computer and not have to deal with the daily frustrations that come with the Windows operating system. Updates are smoother and more trustworthy, it's secure, and the desktop just makes more sense.
Win-win for Microsoft, users, and IT pros
Microsoft has been doing everything in its power to migrate users from the standard client-based software to cloud and other hosted solutions, and its software cash cow has become web-centric and subscription-based. All of those Linux users could still work with Microsoft 365 and any other Software as a Service (SaaS) solution it has to offer--all from the comfort and security of the Linux operating system.
That's a win-win for Microsoft and consumers because Windows isn't as much of a headache to deal with (by way of bug hunting and security patching its proprietary solutions), and consumers get a more reliable solution without missing out on anything. If Microsoft plays its cards right, the company could re-theme KDE or just about any Linux desktop in such a way that it's not all that different from the Windows 10 interface.
Lay this out right, and consumers might not even know the difference--a "Windows 11" would simply be the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system.
Speaking of winning, IT pros would spend less time dealing with viruses, malware, and operating system issues and more time on keeping the network (and the servers powering that network) running and secure.
What about the big box stores?
This is where the rubber meets the road. In order to make this really work, Microsoft would have to completely drop Windows for its flavor of Linux. In that same vein, Microsoft would need to ensure that big box stores stocked PCs complete with Microsoft Linux. There would be no room for half measures--Microsoft would have to go all in to ensure this transition was a success.
Once the big box stores started selling PCs and laptops with Microsoft Linux installed, I predict this initiative would be a huge success for all involved. Microsoft would be seen as finally shipping an operating system worthy of the consumer; the consumer would have a desktop operating system that didn't deliver as many headaches as it did moments of actual productivity and joy; and the Linux community would finally dominate the desktop.
Microsoft Linux: The time is now
You might think this idea is crazy, but if you really think about it, the evolution of Microsoft Windows is pointing in this direction. Why not bypass the halfway portion of this timeline and jump directly to an end game that spells success for all involved? The time for Microsoft Linux is now!




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Re: Repeated prompting for Apple account password on iPhone SE 2020

Vicki W
 

I kept getting this until I did the update and then I had to do it for the ITunes store in order to update my apps. I just got another sign in prompt last night. I'm getting them on both my older SE and my older mini IPAD.
 
Vicki
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repeated prompting for Apple account password on iPhone SE 2020

Anyone else having a situation where your phone keeps asking for your Apple password?  Last evening, my phone prompted me to re-enter my password.  I did, and then got a notification that my Apple account was locked.  I followed the instructions and unlocked it, but I continue to be prompted to enter my password.  I wonder if I have been hacked.  I know that there is a storm of foreign hacking going on.  Thanks in advance for your input.


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Thomas N. Chan
 

Depends, some of them comes with one year of office365.
Most of it, they are just luring you to get their subscription.
Because if you stop paying, you can't really edit your documents or spreadsheet anymore etc.



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regards
Thomas N. Chan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, 22 December 2020 9:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Often Microsoft office will come installed on new computers, but it's usually a 30 day trial. I have not heard of office coming free other than the trial version.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 22, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I wonder what free means. It could be a demo that will time out or it could be something bundled with the computer but if it is a free bundle, it may well increase the cost of the computer. I haven't seen anything on how much, but I'd be suspicious that you are paying something.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today. However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me, but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Gene
 

JARTE can read current Word formats. If you try to read one, a dialog opens telling you you need the Microsoft compatibility pack which you install and JARTE can then read the files. As I recall, a link is provided in the dialog where you download the pack.

In addition, Wordpad can read such files. We don't know how you want to use a word processor but HJ pad offers a spelll checker and workss with older formats, I don't think the compatibility pack will allow it to read docx files, but you can try. You may not need anything but Wordpad and HJ Pad.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hello Jan,


Yes, if someone sent you a file from 2019 MS Word, jarte would not read
the file.


Now if you save a file from jarte, MS Word 2019 could probably read it
as it has the ability to read files formatted in earlier file formats.


I still have MS Word, because last year, I was sending out Resumes' and
I needed to send it in a form easily read by HR people.


Before I owned MS Word, I would send my Resume' in the RTF format, and I
never had anyone complain about it, as it is easily read by MS Word as
well.


But, when looking for work, you can never tell what small little thing
will bug some HR person enough they Round File your application.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:
Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave


































This week on eyes On Success: From the Other Side

blueskies11
 

This week, as Eyes On Success completes its tenth year of airing weekly episode, hear a bit about how the show came to be and its history:

2052 From the Other Side (Dec. 23, 2020)
Show Notes
Usually it is hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey who are asking the questions of people they interview. Now the tables have been turned. This week we have excerpts from an episode of Tek Talk in which Larry Gassman interviewed Nancy and Peter about Eyes On Success. Hear how the show got started, how it is put together, some highlights, and much more.

 

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Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Janet
 

Marie,
Wow, I didn't even know they had Lenovo Desktops. There were a few sighted people who I talked to, and they say they just love their Lenovo Laptops. So I thought I would give Lenovo a chance, and I'm beginning to think This is going to work out for me much more than I even thought.
Thank you thank you!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

I have both a Lenovo laptop and a Lenovo desktop and they are great
machines. They were formerly the IBM Think Pad and Lenovo purchased the
company.
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:40 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Everyone,
I just want to thank those who said they have a Lenovo, as I never heard of
them. So, by the few people who did let me know their experience with
Lenovo, makes me feel more comfortable, as this is the first time I even
heard of Lenovo Laptops. This also gives me more confidence.
Thank you again.

Janet

Peace Be With You.


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

And MS word can open the rtf file created with HJPad.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave






















Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

I have both a Lenovo laptop and a Lenovo desktop and they are great machines. They were formerly the IBM Think Pad and Lenovo purchased the company.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:40 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Everyone,
I just want to thank those who said they have a Lenovo, as I never heard of them. So, by the few people who did let me know their experience with Lenovo, makes me feel more comfortable, as this is the first time I even heard of Lenovo Laptops. This also gives me more confidence.
Thank you again.

Janet

Peace Be With You.


Could Microsoft be On route to dumping Windows in favor of Linux!

Janet
 

Hi Everyone,
I just happen to come across this. and thought I would share, as some people might be interested.

Janet

?
by Jack Wallen in Software on October 9, 2020, 8:16 AM PST
Microsoft Linux is the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system, argues Jack Wallen. He explains why this would be a win-win for Microsoft, IT pros, users, and the Linux community.
My esteemed colleague Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols penned an outstanding piece on sister site ZDNet titled Linux-based Windows makes perfect sense in which he discussed Eric S. Raymond's point of view that we are nearing the last phase of the desktop wars. Vaughan-Nichols posits that the next logical step would be the Windows interface running on top of the Linux kernel.
It makes sense, especially given how hard Microsoft is working on Windows Subsystem for Linux. However, from everything I've witnessed over the last few years, I think there's a conclusion to be drawn that makes even more sense for Microsoft.
Microsoft Linux: Why it's the best solution
At one point, the big cash cow for Microsoft was software--Windows and Microsoft Office to be exact. But, as with everything in the tech industry, evolution happens. Tech companies that refuse to evolve fail.
Microsoft gets that, and it has evolved. Case in point: Microsoft Azure. Microsoft's cloud computing service, as well as AWS and Google Cloud, have been massive driving forces in an ever-changing industry. Azure has become Microsoft's new world cash cow--so much so the company that has enjoyed a stranglehold on the desktop market has begun to realize there might be better ways to leverage the desktop.
That leverage could easily come by way of Linux, but not the Linux you're probably thinking of. The Linux that Vaughan-Nichols suggests could be a good stepping stone for Microsoft, but I believe the company needs to make a much bigger leap. I'm talking moon landing-sized leap--one that will make life a lot easier for all involved.
I'm talking about diving deep into the Linux waters. Forget about a version of the desktop with a Windows 10 interface running on the Linux kernel and finally admit that Microsoft Linux might be the best solution for today's world.
A full-on Linux distribution released by Microsoft would mean less frustration for all involved. Microsoft could shift its development efforts on the Windows 10 desktop to a desktop that would be more stable, dependable, flexible, and proven. Microsoft could select from any number of desktops for its official flavor: GNOME, KDE, Pantheon, Xfce, Mint, Cinnamon... the list goes on and on. Microsoft could use that desktop as is or contribute to it and create something that's more in-line with what its users are accustomed to.
Development: Microsoft isn't off the hook
This doesn't mean Microsoft would be off the hook in terms of development. Microsoft would also want to make major contributions to Wine in order to ensure all of its products work smoothly with the compatibility layer and are rolled into the operating system by default so the end user doesn't have to do anything extra in order to install Windows applications.
Windows users need Defender
The Microsoft dev teams would also want to port Windows Defender to this new distribution. Wait. What? Am I seriously suggesting that MS Linux would need Windows Defender? Yes, I am. Why?
End users still need protection from phishing scams, malicious URLs, and other types of attacks. The average Windows user might not realize that the combination of Linux and safe usage practices is far more secure than Windows 10 and Windows Defender. So, yeah, porting Windows Defender to Microsoft Linux would be a good step into keeping the user base comfortable.
Those users would very quickly learn what it's like to work on a desktop computer and not have to deal with the daily frustrations that come with the Windows operating system. Updates are smoother and more trustworthy, it's secure, and the desktop just makes more sense.
Win-win for Microsoft, users, and IT pros
Microsoft has been doing everything in its power to migrate users from the standard client-based software to cloud and other hosted solutions, and its software cash cow has become web-centric and subscription-based. All of those Linux users could still work with Microsoft 365 and any other Software as a Service (SaaS) solution it has to offer--all from the comfort and security of the Linux operating system.
That's a win-win for Microsoft and consumers because Windows isn't as much of a headache to deal with (by way of bug hunting and security patching its proprietary solutions), and consumers get a more reliable solution without missing out on anything. If Microsoft plays its cards right, the company could re-theme KDE or just about any Linux desktop in such a way that it's not all that different from the Windows 10 interface.
Lay this out right, and consumers might not even know the difference--a "Windows 11" would simply be the next evolution of the Microsoft desktop operating system.
Speaking of winning, IT pros would spend less time dealing with viruses, malware, and operating system issues and more time on keeping the network (and the servers powering that network) running and secure.
What about the big box stores?
This is where the rubber meets the road. In order to make this really work, Microsoft would have to completely drop Windows for its flavor of Linux. In that same vein, Microsoft would need to ensure that big box stores stocked PCs complete with Microsoft Linux. There would be no room for half measures--Microsoft would have to go all in to ensure this transition was a success.
Once the big box stores started selling PCs and laptops with Microsoft Linux installed, I predict this initiative would be a huge success for all involved. Microsoft would be seen as finally shipping an operating system worthy of the consumer; the consumer would have a desktop operating system that didn't deliver as many headaches as it did moments of actual productivity and joy; and the Linux community would finally dominate the desktop.
Microsoft Linux: The time is now
You might think this idea is crazy, but if you really think about it, the evolution of Microsoft Windows is pointing in this direction. Why not bypass the halfway portion of this timeline and jump directly to an end game that spells success for all involved? The time for Microsoft Linux is now!


Re: Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Janet
 

Hi BZ,
Ok thank you for this as I didn't know that, as I never even looked in to Windows 10 until now. This is great to hear. One less thing I have to download! LOL!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio feel free to call me BZ,
grin! You've got the most accessible security built right into windows ten
with windows defender. Don't bother with micro security. That's just my
$0.02 worth, grin! BZ1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:36 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Best Buy is now sending me an offer of Micro Internet Security free for 6
months to download. My question is how accessible is Micro Internet
Security. I will be using Windows 10, JAWS 2021.

I appreciate any advice.


Janet
Peace Be With You.









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Re: is there a downside to using open drive?

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

I have used iCloud, Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, Open Drive, Send space and probably one or two I haven’t remembered. And I like Open Drive the best so far. It is fast, easy to use, easy to maintain as far as file structure, and price competitive. The only downside I have really found is in user stats. I haven’t found a way to track what I upload and download like I did with Send space. But I didn’t with most of the other cloud services either.

Merv

 

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:58 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] is there a downside to using open drive?

 

I know that there is a cost for it, but what mean, is, does it really well? And is there another program that works just as well? Jims


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Janet
 

Hi Dave,
Ok you are certainly giving me something to think about regarding MS. Maybe I might need it in the future, as I didn't really give that much thought until now. LOL. Oh sure I know all too well about the HR people! Smile! They can be pretty picky!
Thank you for this.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hello Jan,


Yes, if someone sent you a file from 2019 MS Word, jarte would not read
the file.


Now if you save a file from jarte, MS Word 2019 could probably read it
as it has the ability to read files formatted in earlier file formats.


I still have MS Word, because last year, I was sending out Resumes' and
I needed to send it in a form easily read by HR people.


Before I owned MS Word, I would send my Resume' in the RTF format, and I
never had anyone complain about it, as it is easily read by MS Word as
well.


But, when looking for work, you can never tell what small little thing
will bug some HR person enough they Round File your application.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:
Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave


































Re: Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio feel free to call me BZ,
grin! You've got the most accessible security built right into windows ten
with windows defender. Don't bother with micro security. That's just my
$0.02 worth, grin! BZ1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:36 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Micro Internet Security Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Best Buy is now sending me an offer of Micro Internet Security free for 6
months to download. My question is how accessible is Micro Internet
Security. I will be using Windows 10, JAWS 2021.

I appreciate any advice.


Janet
Peace Be With You.









--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Dave
 

Hello Jan,


Yes, if someone sent you a file from 2019 MS Word, jarte would not read the file.


Now if you save a file from jarte, MS Word 2019 could probably read it as it has the ability to read files formatted in earlier file formats.


I still have MS Word, because last year, I was sending out Resumes' and I needed to send it in a form easily read by HR people.


Before I owned MS Word, I would send my Resume' in the RTF format, and I never had anyone complain about it, as it is easily read by MS Word as well.


But, when looking for work, you can never tell what small little thing will bug some HR person enough they Round File your application.


Grumpy Dave

On 12/22/2020 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:
Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave

































is there a downside to using open drive?

Jim Rawls
 

I know that there is a cost for it, but what mean, is, does it really well? And is there another program that works just as well? Jims


Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Janet
 

Marie,
Wow, I haven't even thought of HJ Pad in many years. You just gave me a thought. Dave, are you saying if someone sends me a MS word file, I wouldn't be able to read it or save it, if I don't have word installed on my Laptop?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

thanks for the info. I often use HJ Pad which is also very easy to use but
no password protection there either.
I keep a journal which is private and I am the only one with the password.
LOL!
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

The Spell Checker is very easy to use. As for your question about
Passwords, I do not have an answer for that as I never use protected
files. Perhaps someone else can answer that question.


The lay out of Jarte is like the old pull down menus from the Office
2003 and before. Very simple to use.


the only thing I don't care for is its inability to save in a modern
file format such as Word 2019, 2016, 2013 etc.


I think it will let you save in 2007 format, but I might be wrong. I
always save in an RTF format, which works for what I do, but it may not
work if you are trading files with co-workers using a new edition of MS
Word.


Grumpy Dave



On 12/22/2020 8:45 AM, Marie wrote:
Does Jart allow you to assign a password to a document and how well
does the spell checker work? These are two features I use constantly.
Thanks, Marie


-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Is it a free install of word that comes with youlaptop or a trial
version that expires in 30 days?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS
either, although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but
I'm hopeing I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today.
However, I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and
works well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does
not Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me,
but it might to you.


Grumpy Dave






















Re: Word Processor Suggestions

Janet
 

Hi Marie,
This is great to know that I don't have to use MS when I get my Windows Laptop, but I guess if I do come across some reason that I have to use it, I will have it on the Laptop. I'm not for sure what version MS will be though. Although, I can certainly understand your point considering what you use it for.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Although MS Word has lots of extras, you are not forced to use any of them.
I use Word every day just as a casual word processor. The plus is being able
to send the file and have it opened by other MS Word users without any
difficulty. And there are features I enjoy, such as password protecting a
private document, and hot keys to quickly accomplish many frequent tasks.
JMO
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

HI Gene,
I really don't care if MS is free or just a demo, I can't stand that MS at
all. I don't have any intentions of even using it because of all those
whistles- bells! I had to use MS for many many years when I was working,
but now, I just don't need Ms, and I'm hopeing I will never have to use it
again! Although, because I still can't get Thunderbird set up on my Windows
7, maybe I can set up Thunderbird on the Windows 10, just a thought.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I wonder what free means. It could be a demo that will time out or it could
be something bundled with the computer but if it is a free bundle, it may
well increase the cost of the computer. I haven't seen anything on how
much, but I'd be suspicious that you are paying something.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

Hi Dave,
I can't stand all those Bells and Whistles that usually come with MS either,
although, free MS does come with the Laptop I just bought, but I'm hopeing
I don't have to use that!

Thank you so much.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Word Processor Suggestions

I have MS Word 2019, or what ever the latest version is today. However,
I hate using it.


I just don't need all those Bells and Whistles that has bloated up MS
Word over the years.


I use a small Word Processor called Jarte. It is very simple and works
well with my Screen Readers.


If you are interested, you can find it at www.jarte.com


It is Free unless you wanted a slightly more feature filled version
which will cost you $29.

The only thing I see as a negitive is that this Word Processor does not
Save files in MS Words newest format. Which doesn't matter to me, but
it might to you.


Grumpy Dave

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