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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Gene
You are making unsupported assumptions. You
are assuming the screen-reader is the issue. it may only be a minor one
and even if JAWS were being used, the person might have almost as much
trouble. The main problems the person is having may be such things as
knowing how to find and open programs in Windows 10. She may be having
problems understanding the start menu and perhaps she is having problems working
with the desktop. We would need more information about the problems the
person is having but assuming the screen-reader is the main problem is
unsupported without more information.
I don't use Windows 10 and I can't help with such
tasks. But I've used many versions of Windows and many different
screen-readers and if you know how to work with your version of Windows and with
the programs you use, you can do a lot without much knowledge of the
screen-reader in a lot of cases.
Gene
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Yes but she cannot use anything because she cannot figure out how to use the screen reader and W10 then you use and so what works till you can do better. Something is better than nothing! It sounds like she has nothing at this point. So I would use what I was use to and could use till I could do better.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
It doesn't make sense to continue to use JAWS unless she is willing to pay for a JAWS upgrade if she qualifies. Either Window-eyes or NVDA make more sense to use if the person doesn't want to spend the money. Window-eyes is free if she has a recent version of Microsoft office or perhaps just Microsoft Word, I don't recall the details. NVDA is free under all conditions.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Ok, I would be willing to help if
she would download Jaws Demo and I could tendon her! She would have to give me a
call or drop me an email to start the conversation. I could help with doing a
jaws tendon. Or anyone else could as well. Also if she has JFW there is
training in all kind of format on the jaws site. So if she could go back to jaws
even if it meant the demo. Since she started with Jaws I would stay with it as
she knows it.
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Matt
Well, don't think so but never know. The thing about it if it don't work they will lose their customer base! I more as now more worry about price and customer service and support more than anything else.
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From: Victor [mailto:victorelawrence@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 6:31 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Freedom Scientific is being bought out. I get Freedom Scientific's newsletters and I read about this yesterday. I hope this doesn't mean bad news for accessibility. VictorOn 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote: Well, they call it a merge but it is really being sold and bought out!
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Matt
Not if it is not working for her and she cannot find help! What good is a screen reader and computer if you cannot use it. You mind as well have a brick setting in front of you. Use what works till you can do better! You all wouldn’t be seeing Dollars in your eyes would you? Smile!
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 6:30 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
Hello, Agree with Gene. Rebooting after 40 minutes, just for the sake of it, is not practicle. Besides, she might as well get used to what she has, but is not a demo, rather than a demo jaws.
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Re: Muffled Jaws
Matt
Try the demo of Jaws 17 and see what happens! Also see if it happens with other screen readers like NVDA or WE. It could be your version of Jaws. If it comes to that then try a repair or un install of jaws and re install of jaws. If then this don’t work then it is an issue with that jaws and something on the computer. Has this just started or has it been an ongoing thing?
From: Marsha via Groups.io [mailto:marcatony@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:13 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Muffled Jaws
Hi I hope someone can help me with this problem. Sometimes, without warning, Jaws will either completely stop talking or become so muffled I can no longer understand. It also returns with out warning. I have tried this with both versions of Jaws on the computer. I am using Windows 7 64 with either Jaws 14 or 15. Does anyone have any clues as to why this is happening? If I am using Winamp to read a book, there doesn’t seem to be a problem. Thanks for any help.
Marsha
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Re: Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Victor
I get Freedom Scientific's newsletters and I read about this
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yesterday. I hope this doesn't mean bad news for accessibility. VictorOn 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote:
Well, they call it a merge but it is really being sold and bought out! You
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello, Agree with Gene. Rebooting after 40 minutes, just for the sake of it, is not practicle. Besides, she might as well get used to what she has, but is not a demo, rather than a demo jaws. Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.
On 18 Nov 2015, at 11:26 p.m., Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote:
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Matt
Yes but she cannot use anything because she cannot figure out how to use the screen reader and W10 then you use and so what works till you can do better. Something is better than nothing! It sounds like she has nothing at this point. So I would use what I was use to and could use till I could do better.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:34 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
It doesn't make sense to continue to use JAWS unless she is willing to pay for a JAWS upgrade if she qualifies. Either Window-eyes or NVDA make more sense to use if the person doesn't want to spend the money. Window-eyes is free if she has a recent version of Microsoft office or perhaps just Microsoft Word, I don't recall the details. NVDA is free under all conditions.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Ok, I would be willing to help if she would download Jaws Demo and I could tendon her! She would have to give me a call or drop me an email to start the conversation. I could help with doing a jaws tendon. Or anyone else could as well. Also if she has JFW there is training in all kind of format on the jaws site. So if she could go back to jaws even if it meant the demo. Since she started with Jaws I would stay with it as she knows it.
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Matt
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From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:46 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
I realize it and I also realize the amount of work that goes into producing such material. In my case, in the various presentations and the one tutorial I've done, I tend to spend something like an hour or two of work to get half an hour's material in its final form. And if producing such material is the person's main source of income, the person has the right to a reasonable return. I'm not saying other good material does not exist. But this is very good teaching material and people should know what is available so they can make a choice.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hmm, my blind Services here in Florida was just great! They even hire and mostly hire Blind people to teach. But yes nothing wrong with paying something reasonable but you have to realize most don’t have a job and the only income is something like SSI that is usually way below 1000 bucks a month to live on! So paying too much is not an option ! the first thing that comes is household things like : rent, or house payment, then lights and water and electricity and then trash and then some kind of phone and then your healthcare and food and so on . then things like internet service and so on . So there is not a lot you can do with usually way less than 1000 bucks unless you are staying with a parent that is footing the bill.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
My impression is that training quality varies widely from state to state and from agency to agency. High quality material, prepared well and distributed by a small business is worth the price. People may not be able to afford or they may not want to pay it. But it is a resource worth knowing about.
I have no objection to free resources but I wouldn't assume that state agencies will provide the quality of training you can get from Access Technology Institute. I expect that Hadley has good material as well and it's free. If it were me and I wanted free material, Hadley would be one of the first places I would investigate. If the person already knows Windows and knows something about Window-eyes, then podcasts done by blind people demonstrating Windows 10 may be all or mostly all that is needed. I'll leave it to others to discuss such podcasts and where they can be found.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
70 or 80 bucks for a book! To learn a screen reader and a OS! When there is lots of free help from list and all kind of resources. This is the kind of thing the Blind services does. Here in Florida they the blind services has a branch that is part of them that does nothing but train people on computers and devices and brail and so on. You don’t have to have a job! Or even be looking for one! The service is free. They also buy equipment for you if you are going to school or in a job and need help with it. I sure there is other people on this list that would be willing to help for free! At least the basic stuff. How far away are you from her? Are you near enough to go over and help her out? I would really check out the blind services in her state! That is if she lives in the USA? I don’t use windows eyes as my main screen reader. But use it enough to get around. Just started using W10 myself. It is a little bit of a learning curve. How old of a person is this? How long has she been blind? Has she thought about using the Demo of jaws? Or even buying the trial version which is a complete full version and you buy it for say something like three months or month. If she likes it they have a payment plan now FS does for you to get it. She might also like NVDA better than WE has she tried it out?
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
If your friend is a member of Bookshare.org, then there are books that can probably help them there. It was a good resource for me when I was first learning iOS and Windows 7. I’ll most likely grab a book or two for whenever I have the need to use a Win 10 machine.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Does your friend want only free material or is she interested in paying? Good material can be found at the Access Technology Institute site It's somewhat expensive, however. I think the book on Windows 10 and Window-eyes is about seventy or eighty U.S. dollars.
One place to look for free material is the Hadley School. I don't know specifically what they have but it's a good place to check.
Gene From: Amy Gordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
I have a friend who boughy a desktop computer with windows 10 and she
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Matt
She can run the demo of Jaws I know it is not the best solution but it might be better than what she has till she can do better!
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Matt.from.florida@...
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From: Amy Gordon [mailto:asg1241@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:12 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion She has the free window eyes with microsoft offfice and I doubt she will pay for jaws and she has tried nvda before and didn't like it. On 11/18/15, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: I realize it and I also realize the amount of work that goes into
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Matt
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From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:geodom@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 6:10 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
Well, good for you in Florida. In New York, which is where I am, we’re not necessarily so lucky. Pam.
70 or 80 bucks for a book! To learn a screen reader and a OS! When there is lots of free help from list and all kind of resources. This is the kind of thing the Blind services does. Here in Florida they the blind services has a branch that is part of them that does nothing but train people on computers and devices and brail and so on. You don’t have to have a job! Or even be looking for one! The service is free. They also buy equipment for you if you are going to school or in a job and need help with it. I sure there is other people on this list that would be willing to help for free! At least the basic stuff. How far away are you from her? Are you near enough to go over and help her out? I would really check out the blind services in her state! That is if she lives in the USA? I don’t use windows eyes as my main screen reader. But use it enough to get around. Just started using W10 myself. It is a little bit of a learning curve. How old of a person is this? How long has she been blind? Has she thought about using the Demo of jaws? Or even buying the trial version which is a complete full version and you buy it for say something like three months or month. If she likes it they have a payment plan now FS does for you to get it. She might also like NVDA better than WE has she tried it out?
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
If your friend is a member of Bookshare.org, then there are books that can probably help them there. It was a good resource for me when I was first learning iOS and Windows 7. I’ll most likely grab a book or two for whenever I have the need to use a Win 10 machine.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Does your friend want only free material or is she interested in paying? Good material can be found at the Access Technology Institute site It's somewhat expensive, however. I think the book on Windows 10 and Window-eyes is about seventy or eighty U.S. dollars.
One place to look for free material is the Hadley School. I don't know specifically what they have but it's a good place to check.
Gene From: Amy Gordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
I have a friend who boughy a desktop computer with windows 10 and she
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Re: More W10 questions
Matt
Ok, will check that out .
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From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 3:53 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions You could also try my package for enabling Windows Mail. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrisyydcwqedpbw/Windows%20Mail.zip?dl=1 It works in Windows 10 and Windows Mail is basically just a newer version of Outlook Express. If you decide to try it, just select the batch script for Windows 10, press the Applications key, and choose "Run as administrator" from the context menu. Make sure to run the script as administrator or it won't work. According to at least one other user, they had to copy the folder to the desktop before the "Run as administrator" option would appear on the context menu. Although I don't recall experiencing this problem myself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@...> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] More W10 questions Hmm, so he don't have no authorization from MS to take their stuff andso long. So any one know if there is any way to use outlook Express on W10?
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Pamela Dominguez
Well, good for you in Florida. In New York, which is where I am,
we’re not necessarily so lucky. Pam.
70 or 80 bucks for a book! To learn a screen reader and a OS! When there is lots of free help from list and all kind of resources. This is the kind of thing the Blind services does. Here in Florida they the blind services has a branch that is part of them that does nothing but train people on computers and devices and brail and so on. You don’t have to have a job! Or even be looking for one! The service is free. They also buy equipment for you if you are going to school or in a job and need help with it. I sure there is other people on this list that would be willing to help for free! At least the basic stuff. How far away are you from her? Are you near enough to go over and help her out? I would really check out the blind services in her state! That is if she lives in the USA? I don’t use windows eyes as my main screen reader. But use it enough to get around. Just started using W10 myself. It is a little bit of a learning curve. How old of a person is this? How long has she been blind? Has she thought about using the Demo of jaws? Or even buying the trial version which is a complete full version and you buy it for say something like three months or month. If she likes it they have a payment plan now FS does for you to get it. She might also like NVDA better than WE has she tried it out?
From: Cristóbal
[mailto:crismunoz54@...]
If your friend is a member of Bookshare.org, then there are books that can probably help them there. It was a good resource for me when I was first learning iOS and Windows 7. I’ll most likely grab a book or two for whenever I have the need to use a Win 10 machine.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Does your friend want only free material or is she interested in paying? Good material can be found at the Access Technology Institute site It's somewhat expensive, however. I think the book on Windows 10 and Window-eyes is about seventy or eighty U.S. dollars.
One place to look for free material is the Hadley School. I don't know specifically what they have but it's a good place to check.
Gene From: Amy Gordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
I have a friend who boughy a
desktop computer with windows 10 and she
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Freedom Scientific is being bought out.
Matt
Well, they call it a merge but it is really being sold and bought out! You can say what you want or call it what you want but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it must be a duck! They are indeed being bought out! See link to podcast below.
http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast117-Freedom_Scientific_Optelec_Merger.mp3
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Amy Gordon
She has the free window eyes with microsoft offfice and I doubt she
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will pay for jaws and she has tried nvda before and didn't like it.
On 11/18/15, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I realize it and I also realize the amount of work that goes into producing
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Re: Muffled Jaws
Carlos
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This could be caused by enabled audio
enhancements on the sound card. It might also be a driver issue. You
can look around through the playback device properties to see if you can find a
checkbox to disable audio enhancements. I can only give you approximate
instructions since the location of this checkbox can vary depending on the sound
card.
1. Open the
"Run"
dialog by pressing Windows key R.
2. Type
mmsys.cpl
and press Enter.
3. When the
"Sound"
dialog opens, focus will be in the list of playback
devices. Select the
"Speakers"
device from the list.
4. Tab to the
"Properties"
button and select it.
5. When the
"Speakers Properties"
dialog opens, the
"General"
tab will be selected. At this point you
should look around through the various tabs and see if you can find a checkbox
which is labeled something like
"Enable Audio Enhancements"
or
"Disable Audio Enhancements"
Most often if this checkbox exists, it is found
either under a tab labeled
"Enhancements"
or on the
"Advanced"
tab. If you cannot find such a checkbox, then
it may simply not exist. Not all sound cards support audio
enhancements. Unfortunately, some sound cards also have these settings in
a custom Control Panel applet which may or may not be accessible.
The other possibility as I mentioned could be buggy
audio drivers. If all else fails, you should try to find more recent
drivers for your sound card on the manufacturer's website.
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Gene
I realize it and I also realize the amount of work
that goes into producing such material. In my case, in the various
presentations and the one tutorial I've done, I tend to spend something like an
hour or two of work to get half an hour's material in its final form. And
if producing such material is the person's main source of income, the person has
the right to a reasonable return. I'm not saying other good material does
not exist. But this is very good teaching material and people should know
what is available so they can make a choice.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hmm, my blind Services here in Florida was just great! They even hire and mostly hire Blind people to teach. But yes nothing wrong with paying something reasonable but you have to realize most don’t have a job and the only income is something like SSI that is usually way below 1000 bucks a month to live on! So paying too much is not an option ! the first thing that comes is household things like : rent, or house payment, then lights and water and electricity and then trash and then some kind of phone and then your healthcare and food and so on . then things like internet service and so on . So there is not a lot you can do with usually way less than 1000 bucks unless you are staying with a parent that is footing the bill.
From: Gene
[mailto:gsasner@...]
My impression is that training quality varies widely from state to state and from agency to agency. High quality material, prepared well and distributed by a small business is worth the price. People may not be able to afford or they may not want to pay it. But it is a resource worth knowing about.
I have no objection to free resources but I wouldn't assume that state agencies will provide the quality of training you can get from Access Technology Institute. I expect that Hadley has good material as well and it's free. If it were me and I wanted free material, Hadley would be one of the first places I would investigate. If the person already knows Windows and knows something about Window-eyes, then podcasts done by blind people demonstrating Windows 10 may be all or mostly all that is needed. I'll leave it to others to discuss such podcasts and where they can be found.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
70 or 80 bucks for a book! To learn a screen reader and a OS! When there is lots of free help from list and all kind of resources. This is the kind of thing the Blind services does. Here in Florida they the blind services has a branch that is part of them that does nothing but train people on computers and devices and brail and so on. You don’t have to have a job! Or even be looking for one! The service is free. They also buy equipment for you if you are going to school or in a job and need help with it. I sure there is other people on this list that would be willing to help for free! At least the basic stuff. How far away are you from her? Are you near enough to go over and help her out? I would really check out the blind services in her state! That is if she lives in the USA? I don’t use windows eyes as my main screen reader. But use it enough to get around. Just started using W10 myself. It is a little bit of a learning curve. How old of a person is this? How long has she been blind? Has she thought about using the Demo of jaws? Or even buying the trial version which is a complete full version and you buy it for say something like three months or month. If she likes it they have a payment plan now FS does for you to get it. She might also like NVDA better than WE has she tried it out?
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
If your friend is a member of Bookshare.org, then there are books that can probably help them there. It was a good resource for me when I was first learning iOS and Windows 7. I’ll most likely grab a book or two for whenever I have the need to use a Win 10 machine.
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Does your friend want only free material or is she interested in paying? Good material can be found at the Access Technology Institute site It's somewhat expensive, however. I think the book on Windows 10 and Window-eyes is about seventy or eighty U.S. dollars.
One place to look for free material is the Hadley School. I don't know specifically what they have but it's a good place to check.
Gene From: Amy Gordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion
I have a friend who boughy a
desktop computer with windows 10 and she
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Carlos
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I agree. And having to reboot every 40
minutes is not only inconvenient, but it might also discourage someone who is
just beginning to learn how to use a new version of Windows.
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Carlos
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It is also now possible to offer remote assistance
with NVDA as well for free.
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Gene
It isn't reinventing the wheel. You have to
learn something about the new screen-reader but, until you get to advanced
computer work, much of what you need to learn is Windows. You need to
learn something about the screen-reader but if you know Windows, you can do a
lot without knowing a lot about whatever screen-reader you use. Using a
demo just to avoid learning something about a different screen-reader makes no
sense. Paying hundreds of dollars to upgrade JAWS just to avoid learning
something about a new screen-reader makes no sense.
Gene
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Matt.from.florida@... -----Original Message----- From: Quentin Christensen [mailto:quentin.christensen@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:46 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion My book works with Window Eyes. It includes the Windows keystrokes for everything it covers. It doesn't include Window Eyes specific instruction so would work best if she is a little familiar with Window eyes previously but it would certainly help and is only $20 AUD (which works out to about $14 US I think currently). http://www.22point.com.au/publications.html Kind regards Quentin. -- 22 Point Web: http://www.22point.com.au Check out our "Making Windows 10 Easy" eBooks and award winning app, RapiTap! On 18/11/2015 10:50 PM, Amy Gordon wrote: > I have a friend who boughy a desktop computer with windows 10 and she > uses window eyes the free version with outlook express but she knows > nothing about windows 10 and hasn't ever used window eyes. Is there > any books on recording or someone that could help her learn this? > Thanks > > On 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote: >> You can do this if you are not doing a dual boot but if doing dual >> boot you will need sited help. You can use Carlos talking OS >> installer but just in case there you might still want to have sited help just in case. >> >> >> >> >> >> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...> Matt.from.florida@... >> >> >> >> From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@...] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:40 PM >> To: TechTalk@groups.io >> Subject: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion >> >> >> >> Since everyone seems to be upgrading to Windows Ten without sighted >> assistance, I thought I might bite the bullet and try it too. I see >> an option in my sys tray that says upgrade, but I’ve had some say to >> get some kind of tool from Microsoft in order to do it. Thanks for >> advice and/or instructions. >> >> Monni, the coffee gal >> Twitter, @Monni52 >> >> Facebook, Monica Rose Jones >> >> >> >> > > > . >
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Re: Windows Ten Confusion
Gene
It doesn't make sense to continue to use JAWS
unless she is willing to pay for a JAWS upgrade if she qualifies. Either
Window-eyes or NVDA make more sense to use if the person doesn't want to spend
the money. Window-eyes is free if she has a recent version of Microsoft
office or perhaps just Microsoft Word, I don't recall the details. NVDA is
free under all conditions.
Gene
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Matt.from.florida@... -----Original Message----- From: Amy Gordon [mailto:asg1241@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 3:27 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion She had windows xp and used jaws before. On 11/18/15, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > What has the person done before? Has she used an earlier version of > Windows or more than one version? What screen-reader has she used, if > any. If you can provide some information of this sort, it might help > the list tailor its advice. > > Gene > > > From: Amy Gordon > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:54 PM > To: TechTalk@groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion > > > She hasn't joined any lists because she hasn't been able to use her email. > > On 11/18/15, Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@...> wrote: >> My book works with Window Eyes. It includes the Windows keystrokes >> for everything it covers. It doesn't include Window Eyes specific >> instruction so would work best if she is a little familiar with >> Window eyes previously but it would certainly help and is only $20 >> AUD (which works out to about $14 US I think currently). >> >> http://www.22point.com.au/publications.html >> >> Kind regards >> >> Quentin. >> >> -- >> 22 Point >> >> Web: http://www.22point.com.au >> Check out our "Making Windows 10 Easy" eBooks and award winning app, >> RapiTap! >> >> On 18/11/2015 10:50 PM, Amy Gordon wrote: >>> I have a friend who boughy a desktop computer with windows 10 and >>> she uses window eyes the free version with outlook express but she >>> knows nothing about windows 10 and hasn't ever used window eyes. Is >>> there any books on recording or someone that could help her learn this? >>> Thanks >>> >>> On 11/18/15, Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote: >>>> You can do this if you are not doing a dual boot but if doing dual >>>> boot you will need sited help. You can use Carlos talking OS >>>> installer but just in case there you might still want to have sited >>>> help just in case. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...> Matt.from.florida@... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Monica Jones [mailto:coffeegal57@...] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:40 PM >>>> To: TechTalk@groups.io >>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Windows Ten Confusion >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since everyone seems to be upgrading to Windows Ten without sighted >>>> assistance, I thought I might bite the bullet and try it too. I see >>>> an option in my sys tray that says upgrade, but I’ve had some say >>>> to get some kind of tool from Microsoft in order to do it. Thanks >>>> for advice and/or instructions. >>>> >>>> Monni, the coffee gal >>>> Twitter, @Monni52 >>>> >>>> Facebook, Monica Rose Jones >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> . >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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